My favorite thing about the MiG-21 is how if you turn hard while going very fast, you keeping going in the same direction, instead of actually turning, so you can be flying in one direction while pointing in another for a little while.
Did some reading of an interview with a former 4477 TES pilot. He said they used to use that to their advantage against students, and that the 21 was considered a joy to fly even though they had no idea what most of the systems in it did. I've certainly had a great time with it so far in DCS!
5 Years Later: I am in the market for my first DCS MiG. Glad I came across this old video. In comparison to the DCS MiG-15 and MiG-19, the MiG-21 is pulling ahead. Thanks to the Free For all event at Eagle Dynamics this month, I can try before I Fly. I hope you get a chance to try some new modules and post some updates if you find the time. Cheers
@StanCanCount YT I did get both the MiG-19 and MiG-21. Ironically today I just installed the MiG-21 Cockpit mod pack - Green/Gray/Black both in English & Russian, just to freshen things up a bit. Mod is in DCS User Download files from HAWKCZ6 .
This video made me subscribe. This is just the way a review should be like. Thoughtful coverage of the objective features of the dlc, some bloopers, attention to detail and then some emotion (flying, plus music)... Would enjoy more DCS with commentary.
So Jive's an airliner pilot? Well, I guess that explains a lot! Would be awesome to be sitting in a plane and have his voice come on the PA. And by "awesome" I mean "terrifying". Grab the sick bag and get ready for a wild ride.
I agree with your opinion about this module. I find it demanding to fly, but very rewarding once you get used to it.. Despite being a "simple" aircraft, it has a lot of systems to master. It is very very far from today's "glass cockpits". Huge workload, non existant ergonomics, but ... hell, I fell in love with it the minute I started running the checkists to start her up. Lately I've found that I enjoy more flying vintage aircrafts than the new ones (not only in DCS).
I didn't like the lancer at first, but as I developed as a DCS simmer the challenge of flying an outdated aircraft became more appealing. It's a very raw experience, really feels like flying compared to more modern FBW aircraft. However, it is less capable, if you're new and just want to hit your target, it probably isn't for you. It's really more for someone who wants to really test themselves in the sim, and it will do that really well, with the appropriate reward.
Watching this video over and again all the time.... Please consider making more overviews such as this one. Music was superbly chosen, nice voice and the underlying humor is just fine! Do it! Pleeeease. ...
Fun fact: The radar is cooled by what is essentially vodka, which is why it only works for 25 minutes. After it runs out of vodka coolant the radar overheats until it fails.
Kudos to Leatherneck, they really, really, smashed it out of the park with this one, I really love flying this beast, haven't been able to land with all wheels thus far, but getting there. By the way, awesome to see a real pilot trying something completely different than his 'office'! Take care, stay safe and have fun flying!
+ReddyDutch Make sure you are carrying enough power until mains touch the ground. There's a marker in the throttle (SPS in english "CNC" in russia) that is the minimum power for Boundary Layer Control to work. The plane drops very violently at flare without BLC unless you come in _fast_. Make sure both N1 and N2 needles are minimum of 70% until ~touchdown.
The beginning of this video (hearing your input on virtual flying, from a pilots perspective) is really interesting to me. for me, flying in real life didn't live up to the joy that i got from games like DCS. I flew float planes for about a year until i finally came to the conclusion that i enjoyed flight more as a virtual hobby than a real life hobby or career choice. Weird how things work.
This video is all kinds of awesome. You have a natural sense of editing awesomeness. Great style sense for the music among other things. You have a great talking voice, and the fact that you speak with authority (being a pilot) is a great plus.
+Sagramorbald I got to admit that I'm sometimes pretty happy to just jump into Flaming Cliffs 3 stuff for some more simple fun. Each have their merits imo
+Tentacles I enjoyed studying Black Shark manual. Same thing with mi-21. The sim got even more enjoyable when I finally jumped into the cockpit with all the knowledge I've gained. IMHO learning the aircraft is the most fun part of the sim. Learning is not fun when you have expectations. Stop thinking about the result and time required to get there and enjoy the moment. This principle actually applies to every sphere of our life. When people get older they fall out of reality by constantly thinking about the future or past. "Children have neither a past nor a future. Thus they enjoy the present, which very few of us do." -Jean de la Bruyere “True happiness is... to enjoy the present, without anxious dependence upon the future.” ―Lucius Annaeus Seneca
The MiG-21 and the Huey are by far my favorite DCS modules. The clickable cockpits are fantastic in VR and both have a long learning curve that feels fantastic to get proficient with. Subjected countless virtual pilots to nasty nasty fates on both aircrafts.
The MiG 21 is my favorite aircraft.One reason is because it is challenging and hard to maintain,another reason is the amount of switches and detail in it which makes it more challenges for me.The blue color of the cockpit makes it look very nice and soothing.
Great video. Your alternative method for dealing with the Mig Stalling is a method I use often. In fact I would go so far as to say I have become somewhat of an expert in that particular method of stall recovery.
Got this craft, two days in got my first PvE kill against a bomber with an IR rocket. I am learning the wrong way, but that for me makes it a lot more fun :D less reading more trial and error.
Really enjoyed this video, JiveDilettante; thoughtful use of clips that supported your narration, concise but encompasses the overall experience of the Mig, good production overall. Keep up the good work, in the edit suite, and the cockpit !
DCS Mig-21 is finally a jet fighter that thrills you!. take offs and especially landings are not too easy, but very manageable, you really see how your skills get better all the time. I don't find it too fun for a pure serious dogfighting machine, too much to control imo for my stick and keyboard. I have FC3 F15 for that.
God bless interceptors. the speed machines that make aerial combat count i'm waiting for a full release of Mig-31 or even Mig-25 foxbat. its like a mig-21 but imagine it nearly twice as fast with improved radar capabilities on the 25 and extremely good modern radar abilities on the 31 plus multicrews as its a two seater!
Thanks man. Unfortunately the main tip is to work towards saving an arseload of money. Integrated or even modular courses at flying schools aren't cheap :(
JiveDilettante yeah i know deep down there is alot of cost involved. Pity there isnt a pilot apprenticeship. Thanks again and i look forward to more of your videos.
Personal Pilots license I think takes about 30 - 40 hours instructed flight experience. A little hobby airport near me charges about £200-250 per hour depending on the plane you choose. It's expensive, but not just a rich man's thing. Flying lessons are really fun, and so even if you never get a pilot's license, you can still fly quite a few times in your life without making yourself poor. I'm certainly gonna do it.
It's great to see the weight of ordinance taken into account. Over Lybia in 2011 the French Mirages we worked alongside could only drop on two targets at a time because their ordinance was wing mounted and caused too much of a roll to be able to land on the trap on the CDG Carrier. p.s. I can't place your accent.
Wow, absolutely fascinating. Your career brings a credibility to your words. Would love to see your knowledge (and humour, the perfect landing bit was great) paired with ralfidude's dramatic flair. Followed and I'll be sure to spruik you to others!
Wow, you did this quite a while ago. Late to the party as usual I guess. Anyhow, great vid. Loved the landing part! Now that it’s almost 2019, ED is making it hard to keep up. After the F5, F15, P51, and F18, I bought the A10C. That’s where the learning STOPPED (my god, I can’t even start it). I’ve wanted to try the helos and and the MiG 21 looks like great; but with the release of the Tomcat THEN the F16 after THAT, I feel like there’s just not enough time on earth to learn them all. But a man can try! Thanks.
Thank you for choosing dcs we will be arriving soon and on behalf of flight crew I would like to thank you for flying dcs. Mate you have your pilot voice down pat I love it oh and yes I have the Mig 21 and are enjoying it greatly aaaaa wonderful beast
Hey Jive I am torn between getting the MiG-21bis and the FC3 for the SU-27/33s. Which one would be worth it to purchase? Personally I like how the MiG-21bis has a large assortment of A2G weapons while maintaining the A2A capabilities, but I am a bit torn as the A2A is supposedly sub-par. With the SU-27 series I am torn with that as I love the look of the cockpit and I think trying a new non-american system would be fun, of course I could do that with the MiG-21bis. What tears me though is that it is not a full simulation like the MiG-21bis. I aspire to be a pilot when I am out of schooling so of course I want to choose a good module aside from the three I already have (A-10C, UH-1H, and F-15C). Any feedback is appreciated, thanks!
If you're into it for the air to air then I would say FC3. Even without being full fidelity it's still a lot of fun. If you enjoy the F-15 more than than the A-10 then you'll probably like the the Su-27 more than the MiG-21. Personally I prefer the MiG-21 product because it's multi-role and lends itself well to co-op but it's not universally better than the other modules.
Thanks, I decided on the MiG after taking with some buddies, the A2G should be gun and when shooting down enemy A2G aircraft that will be great too, thanks!
How did you become a commercial pilot; through RAF (since you're from UK) or have you gone straight into commercial through private funding of courses and such?
Nice vid, and DCS is a great sim platform. To be honest, though, no-one would take the Mig-21 down low and into a curve battle like you did in your video. Mig-21 is built for speed and manouvres very well at high airspeeds and high altitudes. But I think that you probably already knew that. :)
I did, but thanks for mentioning it case I didn't. It's fun to drop into valleys like that, that's the main reason I had that section. I'm very much in favour of fun over realism
The Mig21bis is exceptionally good at low speed high angle of attack flying in DCS just as the USAF testing of MIg21 shows in real world. "maneuvering capabilities and behavior/handling at low speeds described as "class above competition"" "Maneuverability of modern fighter is measured by how slow it can fly and how high angle of attack it can sustain and still turn. During some war situations, US evaluation and Aggressor use, MiG-21 has shown it can keep pace with modern planes...During MiG testing, it was clear that U.S. pilots have not relied on Soviet pilot's manuals or they did not have one at the beginning. That is why the aircraft ability was fully exploited... The report of a MiG-21F shows nothing particularly unusual, except for maneuvering capabilities and behavior/handling at low speeds described as "class above competition".Besides that, if competitors tried to follow MiG-21F at high alpha, their engine experienced shutdown or compressor stall. MiG could perform "hammerhead" turn (wingover/stall turn/renversement) at 100 knots (knot = 1.852 km/h), figure where at the end ofthe vertical climb pilot add rudder (with the opposite aileron and forward stick) to push the plane in the dive. Rudder is effective from 30 knots. With the stick fully backward,the plane flies at 210 km/h, the rolling oscillations are present, but there is no lift breakdown or the tendency towards spin." www.slideshare.net/mishanbgd/mi-g-21-and-fighter-maneuverability-in-todays-terms
According to "Red Eagles", you are right:) The only plane who could dance behind an MiG-21 parked on its tail with the flaps down and on AB was the F/A-18, and that only if the pilot knew how to do it. All other planes could not maintain the attitude at that low speed and had to break away so the MiG-21 waxed their fannies as they were trying to leave. Also, the plane was VERY small and hard to see. Interesting also how the MiG-23 behaved.
Yes I really, really want a DCS Mig23! More than any other plane. They say it was actually very challenging to fly. It couldn't turn, even with wings forward, but the acceleration and climb was spectacular... FLYING THE MIG 23 - by Dave Canavo www.warbirdsofdelaware.com/Airplanes/MiG23/MiG23PilotReport/tabid/87/Default.aspx
Wait so if you're an airline pilot, was that you eating a slice of cake in your "Alternative" Flying Techniques video? One of the pioneering military jets, I struggle to think what systems the designers had to create to deal with such a beast.
So I'm not sure about commercial pilots, but for combat pilots they train specifically to use the rudder as roll control at low speeds as very low speed manoeuvring is a common part of dogfighting. Of course A all modern aircraft take care of this with the flight computer anyway so its not particularly needed, but back in the Mig-21 it seems essential to learn. But seriously, why would an EF2000 or F-16 pilot need to learn about how to fly without a flight computer when they are taught to eject if all 4 of the redundant flight systems are down. Anyway it is what it is.
So, per your suggestion, I picked up the Huey. Thanks man, I love it! The campaign however...blows! I don’t know who comes up with this stuff but it’s not fun.
Very nice video, interesting and informative. I'd like your opinion of the SU-27 vs the MiG-21, if you have had experience with both. I had an early hardcore SU-27 sim back in the late 80s or early 90s and liked it for the realistic flight model, instrumentation and controls. Do you think that the DCS SU-27 is as accurate and realistic as the MiG-21 or the MiG-15? What I'm interested in is the opposite of an arcade game type sim, as I'm willing to put in the time and effort necessary to learn the systems and controls. I have flown the original Falcon 4.0 and like the design philosophy of the F-16 but in flying the F-16 I felt that the computer was the real pilot and I was just a passenger flipping the right sequence of switches. I have also flown X-plane and like the realism and accuracy but the civilian aircraft get boring after awhile. Thanks again for your efforts.
Hi Jim. Although you can buy it on it's own the Su-27 is part of the Flaming Cliffs 3 package. Whilst the flight model is decent it doesn't have a full clickable cockpit like the more complete individual modules. I really enjoy the Su-27 and I wouldn't call it arcadey but it's much more 'pick up and play' than a fuller module like the MiG-21. If you're interested in something more analogue than the F-16 I'd suggest the DCS Viggen module (I have a video on that too). Let me know what you decide on!
I have some questions about your career choice. I do have a passion of aviation. I've had so ever since i was little, and had kind of a bad experience with my ears during a trip to Mallorca. Since then I've gained a sort of fear-respect for planes (ærefrygt in Danish, don't know if there is an English translation), that lead to the developing of my passion and I'm often flying in FSX. I'm now considering to become a pilot, probably cargo or something along those lines. I am now curious to know the biggest drawbacks, and the good things about being a pilot. Cheers from Denmark :)
I have an awesome name Your question really deserves a more comprehensive answer than I can give in a UA-cam comment but in a nutshell the drawbacks are early starts and the good things are that it's such a complex and diverse role. Before I was flying for an airline I always assumed that being a pilot meant that you turn up and fly a plane, that was it. In reality it boils down to being the sole responsible party so you often find yourself getting involved with every aspect of the operation eg. identifying and correcting mistakes with loading instructions, fuelling errors, passenger issues etc. The job, especially as a skipper, becomes less about 'flying' and much more about managing a task (the flight) and all of it's many variables whilst operating between the lines of company procedures, regulations and legal obligations. There are good days and bad days of course, both have their own unique rewards and challenges. If you feel passionate about aviation then go for it, the industry is expanding again, it's an enjoyable way to earn a living that you can only properly appreciate first hand.
Thank you for the answer! I have yet to decide if I'm willing to sacrifice holidays and such and push my circadian rhythm. That said i think that the rewards of the job equalize with the drawbacks. Again, thanks a lot for the answer!
+JiveDilettante Thanks, was wondering what you used for rudder. I am still in the darkages with my CH combatstick using the keyboard for rudder. Makes playing BOS terrifying, and it one of the reasons I have not gotten the -21bis for DCS.
Hi Jive i recently graduated high school and my ambition has always been to be in control of one of mans greatest achievements (commercial aircraft) if you have the time could you give me some pointers on how I could get into the industry? Thanks
Hi Robert, someone asked the same in a different video and I've agreed to try and cover it in an upcoming Q&A vid which I'll try to get to soon. Hope that'll help
Emancipator - First Snow (Ooah Remix) Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Antennas to Heaven Roots Manuva - Witness (1 Hope) Instrumental Jel - Know you Don't In order of use. Copied from the vids credits for your convenience ;)
Such an awesome aircraft, too bad I have to wait a couple of weeks for the steam release. I would buy it from ED but their DRM system doesn't like the steam version and I don't want to risk it. Another case of DRMs hurting the customer instead of the pirate.
Thanks! I didn't think there was anything to say about the nukes that hasn't already been said so I left that one out. I do like the big yellow bomb flipswitch though!
My favorite thing about the MiG-21 is how if you turn hard while going very fast, you keeping going in the same direction, instead of actually turning, so you can be flying in one direction while pointing in another for a little while.
yeah haha like in ralfi's video where he does a 90d upward while still flying straight
Did some reading of an interview with a former 4477 TES pilot. He said they used to use that to their advantage against students, and that the 21 was considered a joy to fly even though they had no idea what most of the systems in it did. I've certainly had a great time with it so far in DCS!
That's a really cool fact
The cobra manoeuvre is a classic one in Russian airshows.
@@Fuzz82 but why mig21 cant do cobra manoeuvre?
5 Years Later: I am in the market for my first DCS MiG. Glad I came across this old video.
In comparison to the DCS MiG-15 and MiG-19, the MiG-21 is pulling ahead. Thanks to the Free For all event at Eagle Dynamics this month, I can try before I Fly.
I hope you get a chance to try some new modules and post some updates if you find the time.
Cheers
@StanCanCount YT I did get both the MiG-19 and MiG-21. Ironically today I just installed the MiG-21 Cockpit mod pack - Green/Gray/Black both in English & Russian, just to freshen things up a bit. Mod is in DCS User Download files from HAWKCZ6 .
The FSX cut was great.
This video made me subscribe.
This is just the way a review should be like. Thoughtful coverage of the objective features of the dlc, some bloopers, attention to detail and then some emotion (flying, plus music)...
Would enjoy more DCS with commentary.
Thanks man, I might do something similar in the future but only if it's a module that interests me enough
This video made me sub to
JiveDilettante me too! really great vid!
+HorstEwald me too!
same!
So Jive's an airliner pilot? Well, I guess that explains a lot!
Would be awesome to be sitting in a plane and have his voice come on the PA. And by "awesome" I mean "terrifying". Grab the sick bag and get ready for a wild ride.
Headrock The video he showed was a 737 and he was the Captain
5Hessens
I haven't seen it...
I agree with your opinion about this module. I find it demanding to fly, but very rewarding once you get used to it.. Despite being a "simple" aircraft, it has a lot of systems to master. It is very very far from today's "glass cockpits". Huge workload, non existant ergonomics, but ... hell, I fell in love with it the minute I started running the checkists to start her up.
Lately I've found that I enjoy more flying vintage aircrafts than the new ones (not only in DCS).
Piloting, video editing, and music taste are absolutely on point here. Keep up the great work. Hope to see you on a DCS server soon.
I didn't like the lancer at first, but as I developed as a DCS simmer the challenge of flying an outdated aircraft became more appealing. It's a very raw experience, really feels like flying compared to more modern FBW aircraft. However, it is less capable, if you're new and just want to hit your target, it probably isn't for you. It's really more for someone who wants to really test themselves in the sim, and it will do that really well, with the appropriate reward.
Watching this video over and again all the time....
Please consider making more overviews such as this one. Music was superbly chosen, nice voice and the underlying humor is just fine!
Do it! Pleeeease. ...
You'll like what's processing right now then :)
Just bought it, these landing clips are too real....oh the pain. but that feeling when you do land with the gear intact, is just awesome.
Fun fact: The radar is cooled by what is essentially vodka, which is why it only works for 25 minutes. After it runs out of vodka coolant the radar overheats until it fails.
Kudos to Leatherneck, they really, really, smashed it out of the park with this one, I really love flying this beast, haven't been able to land with all wheels thus far, but getting there.
By the way, awesome to see a real pilot trying something completely different than his 'office'!
Take care, stay safe and have fun flying!
+ReddyDutch Make sure you are carrying enough power until mains touch the ground. There's a marker in the throttle (SPS in english "CNC" in russia) that is the minimum power for Boundary Layer Control to work. The plane drops very violently at flare without BLC unless you come in _fast_. Make sure both N1 and N2 needles are minimum of 70% until ~touchdown.
The beginning of this video (hearing your input on virtual flying, from a pilots perspective) is really interesting to me. for me, flying in real life didn't live up to the joy that i got from games like DCS. I flew float planes for about a year until i finally came to the conclusion that i enjoyed flight more as a virtual hobby than a real life hobby or career choice. Weird how things work.
You just showed up in my recommends and this is one of the best review videos of anything I've ever seen. Well done!
+Erik Sullivan High praise, thanks very much
This video is all kinds of awesome. You have a natural sense of editing awesomeness. Great style sense for the music among other things. You have a great talking voice, and the fact that you speak with authority (being a pilot) is a great plus.
Nice review, mate. I pre-ordered the MiG last week and I cannot wait to fly it.
To be totally honest, I lack the patience for that kind of sim.
But it's a pleasure to watch, so beautiful and interesting.
+Sagramorbald I got to admit that I'm sometimes pretty happy to just jump into Flaming Cliffs 3 stuff for some more simple fun. Each have their merits imo
+Tentacles I enjoyed studying Black Shark manual. Same thing with mi-21. The sim got even more enjoyable when I finally jumped into the cockpit with all the knowledge I've gained. IMHO learning the aircraft is the most fun part of the sim. Learning is not fun when you have expectations. Stop thinking about the result and time required to get there and enjoy the moment. This principle actually applies to every sphere of our life. When people get older they fall out of reality by constantly thinking about the future or past.
"Children have neither a past nor a future. Thus they enjoy the present, which very few of us do." -Jean de la Bruyere
“True happiness is... to enjoy the present, without anxious dependence upon the future.”
―Lucius Annaeus Seneca
The MiG-21 and the Huey are by far my favorite DCS modules. The clickable cockpits are fantastic in VR and both have a long learning curve that feels fantastic to get proficient with.
Subjected countless virtual pilots to nasty nasty fates on both aircrafts.
You talk like a pilot : calm rythm and monotonic :)
Your landing clips made my day, and made me feel better about my "perfect" landings. This is the next module on the list for sure...
Ah, a fellow 737 pilot and DCS simmer. Not many of us around and great to come across your channel.
What a beautifully edited and presented video.
Beautiful. Now if they can just make a Phantom II module.
I already have this pre-purchased because reasons. But man those three days I have to wait are just getting longer, thanks for the video =D
Watching this video, the way you put it together reminded me of those WRC event review shows. Great stuff !
The MiG 21 is my favorite aircraft.One reason is because it is challenging and hard to maintain,another reason is the amount of switches and detail in it which makes it more challenges for me.The blue color of the cockpit makes it look very nice and soothing.
I haven't seen many DSC vids, but this is the first with commentary. Good job.
I watched this video years ago and didn't realize how much it impacted my opinion until I resaw it
Thanks for the kind words, pleased to hear it!
Really looking forward to this release. Happy to find your channel.
Great video. Your alternative method for dealing with the Mig Stalling is a method I use often. In fact I would go so far as to say I have become somewhat of an expert in that particular method of stall recovery.
+Antifaith29 I always stall, What is the methode? Specialy when the plane is at 90 degrees angle
Got this craft, two days in got my first PvE kill against a bomber with an IR rocket. I am learning the wrong way, but that for me makes it a lot more fun :D less reading more trial and error.
+xXE4GLEyEXx The man vs Ikea approach, I like it!
+JiveDilettante thats.... thats too accurate of a way to say that.
Jel as background music is an instant winner for me
My guy 🙌
@@JiveDilletante Props to you my man. Greetings from the good music diaspora. 🙏
Nice video. I don't have DCS (yet) but videos like this make it all the more appealing.
Thank you for the upload.
I've been daydreaming about Mig-21's this past week, and drawing them. Then this vid shows up in my subscriptions! :D
Great choice of music as always!
Really enjoyed this video, JiveDilettante; thoughtful use of clips that supported your narration, concise but encompasses the overall experience of the Mig, good production overall. Keep up the good work, in the edit suite, and the cockpit !
+Hugh Langlands-Bell Thanks a lot, much appreciated
That was a very plaesant video and also a great music selection!
I would be happy to see and hear more from you!
DCS Mig-21 is finally a jet fighter that thrills you!. take offs and especially landings are not too easy, but very manageable, you really see how your skills get better all the time. I don't find it too fun for a pure serious dogfighting machine, too much to control imo for my stick and keyboard. I have FC3 F15 for that.
God bless interceptors. the speed machines that make aerial combat count
i'm waiting for a full release of Mig-31 or even Mig-25 foxbat. its like a mig-21 but imagine it nearly twice as fast with improved radar capabilities on the 25 and extremely good modern radar abilities on the 31 plus multicrews as its a two seater!
Best vid i have seen so far covering this module ... subbed !
keep em coming!
Your vids are very meditative
Awesome video mate well presented. I was wondering if you had any tips for someone wanting a career change to a pilot. Where do you start ?
Thanks man. Unfortunately the main tip is to work towards saving an arseload of money. Integrated or even modular courses at flying schools aren't cheap :(
JiveDilettante yeah i know deep down there is alot of cost involved. Pity there isnt a pilot apprenticeship. Thanks again and i look forward to more of your videos.
Personal Pilots license I think takes about 30 - 40 hours instructed flight experience. A little hobby airport near me charges about £200-250 per hour depending on the plane you choose. It's expensive, but not just a rich man's thing.
Flying lessons are really fun, and so even if you never get a pilot's license, you can still fly quite a few times in your life without making yourself poor. I'm certainly gonna do it.
COOPZIE13 you may be able to get training from your countrys airforce, it might be something to look into if your intrested
Yeah thanks mate i have often thought about it
It's great to see the weight of ordinance taken into account. Over Lybia in 2011 the French Mirages we worked alongside could only drop on two targets at a time because their ordinance was wing mounted and caused too much of a roll to be able to land on the trap on the CDG Carrier.
p.s. I can't place your accent.
That's a cool bit of info, thanks.
(English accent btw)
You greased it, nice work Captain! Good video.
Haha thanks!
i love the Fishbed but the Mirage steal my heart.
Wow, absolutely fascinating. Your career brings a credibility to your words.
Would love to see your knowledge (and humour, the perfect landing bit was great) paired with ralfidude's dramatic flair.
Followed and I'll be sure to spruik you to others!
Grew up watching the MiG-21 bison fly everyday from a nearby airbase in India.
Awesome, must have been a cool sight!
@@JiveDilletante sure was a sight to behold.... IAF grey camouflage MiG-21 tearing through the skies above like an arrow with wings.
Excellent video! Great style and awesome editing! Wish I had a good computer to get this SIM and module.
Wow, you did this quite a while ago. Late to the party as usual I guess. Anyhow, great vid. Loved the landing part! Now that it’s almost 2019, ED is making it hard to keep up. After the F5, F15, P51, and F18, I bought the A10C. That’s where the learning STOPPED (my god, I can’t even start it). I’ve wanted to try the helos and and the MiG 21 looks like great; but with the release of the Tomcat THEN the F16 after THAT, I feel like there’s just not enough time on earth to learn them all. But a man can try! Thanks.
If you haven't already, grab the Huey whilst it's still on offer. You won't regret it.
"Should you buy this?"
I already did! Damn it, I want it to be thursday. :(
Thank you for choosing dcs we will be arriving soon and on behalf of flight crew I would like to thank you for flying dcs. Mate you have your pilot voice down pat I love it oh and yes I have the Mig 21 and are enjoying it greatly aaaaa wonderful beast
GSYBE at 5:50 made my day :)
Dig the GSY!BE, fantastic choice of music.
Yet another good video. Why does the radar only work for 25 minutes?
Beautiful, love this video. What king of staff do you use in DCS? Headtracking, joystick, pedals?
Thanks. For the MiG I've been using a Microsoft Sidewinder FFB2, TrackIR 5 and CH Pro pedals. Awaiting MFG Crosswind shipment :D
I love the music in this video and also the plane is a beautiful lookin bird!
Hey Jive I am torn between getting the MiG-21bis and the FC3 for the SU-27/33s. Which one would be worth it to purchase? Personally I like how the MiG-21bis has a large assortment of A2G weapons while maintaining the A2A capabilities, but I am a bit torn as the A2A is supposedly sub-par. With the SU-27 series I am torn with that as I love the look of the cockpit and I think trying a new non-american system would be fun, of course I could do that with the MiG-21bis. What tears me though is that it is not a full simulation like the MiG-21bis. I aspire to be a pilot when I am out of schooling so of course I want to choose a good module aside from the three I already have (A-10C, UH-1H, and F-15C). Any feedback is appreciated, thanks!
If you're into it for the air to air then I would say FC3. Even without being full fidelity it's still a lot of fun.
If you enjoy the F-15 more than than the A-10 then you'll probably like the the Su-27 more than the MiG-21.
Personally I prefer the MiG-21 product because it's multi-role and lends itself well to co-op but it's not universally better than the other modules.
Thanks, I decided on the MiG after taking with some buddies, the A2G should be gun and when shooting down enemy A2G aircraft that will be great too, thanks!
Fantastic video, mate.
Would you pleae consider making similar ones for the M2000C? That would be awesome!
What does a pilot do in his spare time?
Fly.
Nice video.
Good video. Really enjoyed it.Jokes added a fun touch. The fact that you're pilot in real life made it particularly interesting :)
The Mig-21 can beat an F-15 in a low speed dog fight???!!!! Wow!!! I had no idea
Thanks a ton for this great review!
Very well done!
Excellent review video, Sir.
How did you become a commercial pilot; through RAF (since you're from UK) or have you gone straight into commercial through private funding of courses and such?
I went the commercial route. Got myself in lots of debt and paid for an integrated course. Luckily got into a job reasonably quickly after finishing.
MiG-21 "Balalaika"
Nice vid, and DCS is a great sim platform. To be honest, though, no-one would take the Mig-21 down low and into a curve battle like you did in your video. Mig-21 is built for speed and manouvres very well at high airspeeds and high altitudes. But I think that you probably already knew that. :)
I did, but thanks for mentioning it case I didn't. It's fun to drop into valleys like that, that's the main reason I had that section. I'm very much in favour of fun over realism
The Mig21bis is exceptionally good at low speed high angle of attack flying in DCS just as the USAF testing of MIg21 shows in real world.
"maneuvering capabilities and behavior/handling at low speeds described as "class above competition""
"Maneuverability of modern fighter is measured by how slow it can fly and how high angle of attack it can sustain and still turn. During some war situations, US evaluation and Aggressor use, MiG-21 has shown it can keep pace with modern planes...During MiG testing, it was clear that U.S. pilots have not relied on Soviet pilot's manuals or they did not have one at the beginning. That is why the aircraft ability was fully exploited... The report of a MiG-21F shows nothing particularly unusual, except for maneuvering capabilities and behavior/handling at low speeds described as "class above competition".Besides that, if competitors tried to follow MiG-21F at high alpha, their engine experienced shutdown or compressor stall. MiG could perform "hammerhead" turn (wingover/stall turn/renversement) at 100 knots (knot = 1.852 km/h), figure where at the end ofthe vertical climb pilot add rudder (with the opposite aileron and forward stick) to push the plane in the dive. Rudder is effective from 30 knots. With the stick fully backward,the plane flies at 210 km/h, the rolling oscillations are present, but there is no lift breakdown or the tendency towards spin."
www.slideshare.net/mishanbgd/mi-g-21-and-fighter-maneuverability-in-todays-terms
According to "Red Eagles", you are right:)
The only plane who could dance behind an MiG-21 parked on its tail with the flaps down and on AB was the F/A-18, and that only if the pilot knew how to do it. All other planes could not maintain the attitude at that low speed and had to break away so the MiG-21 waxed their fannies as they were trying to leave.
Also, the plane was VERY small and hard to see.
Interesting also how the MiG-23 behaved.
Yes I really, really want a DCS Mig23!
More than any other plane. They say it was actually very challenging to fly. It couldn't turn, even with wings forward, but the acceleration and climb was spectacular...
FLYING THE MIG 23 - by Dave Canavo
www.warbirdsofdelaware.com/Airplanes/MiG23/MiG23PilotReport/tabid/87/Default.aspx
+rawnukles Nice, thanks for this
Wait so if you're an airline pilot, was that you eating a slice of cake in your "Alternative" Flying Techniques video?
One of the pioneering military jets, I struggle to think what systems the designers had to create to deal with such a beast.
Awesome video, now i want to buy this and start flying!
+kontrolor1981 its free
+McAwesome Gamius where can you find it? on the dcs website?
+Gabriele Ciciriello www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/stable/ here you go
JiveDilettante thank you very much,as soon as i build my new pc i'm gonna play it
So I'm not sure about commercial pilots, but for combat pilots they train specifically to use the rudder as roll control at low speeds as very low speed manoeuvring is a common part of dogfighting. Of course A all modern aircraft take care of this with the flight computer anyway so its not particularly needed, but back in the Mig-21 it seems essential to learn. But seriously, why would an EF2000 or F-16 pilot need to learn about how to fly without a flight computer when they are taught to eject if all 4 of the redundant flight systems are down. Anyway it is what it is.
+JiveDilettante i just stumbled across your channel,do you really pilot aircrafts for a living?
+Gabriele Ciciriello Yep, I'm not grown up enough for a real job
JiveDilettante Hahahahah how old are you?
I've already ordered it !!
"Oder of use" ? Did not know that the order of something had a smell.
You don't have a smellovision monitor? Get next-gen, scrub! :P
(I was hoping no one would notice that)
So, per your suggestion, I picked up the Huey. Thanks man, I love it! The campaign however...blows! I don’t know who comes up with this stuff but it’s not fun.
I never actually tried it but that's a shame 😬 Maybe check out some of the Huey action on the Hoggit Georgia at War server?
This seems really neat to waste a lot of time with. But how demanding is the sim on the hardware?
this makes me really think about buying the mic instead a modern fighter plane
Nice Serbian camouflage paint mig-21 ...
+Ivan Milosevic Yeah it is.
great video! great editing and narration!
This is a fantastic video. Subscribed.
Very nice video, interesting and informative. I'd like your opinion of the SU-27 vs the MiG-21, if you have had experience with both. I had an early hardcore SU-27 sim back in the late 80s or early 90s and liked it for the realistic flight model, instrumentation and controls. Do you think that the DCS SU-27 is as accurate and realistic as the MiG-21 or the MiG-15? What I'm interested in is the opposite of an arcade game type sim, as I'm willing to put in the time and effort necessary to learn the systems and controls. I have flown the original Falcon 4.0 and like the design philosophy of the F-16 but in flying the F-16 I felt that the computer was the real pilot and I was just a passenger flipping the right sequence of switches. I have also flown X-plane and like the realism and accuracy but the civilian aircraft get boring after awhile. Thanks again for your efforts.
Hi Jim. Although you can buy it on it's own the Su-27 is part of the Flaming Cliffs 3 package. Whilst the flight model is decent it doesn't have a full clickable cockpit like the more complete individual modules. I really enjoy the Su-27 and I wouldn't call it arcadey but it's much more 'pick up and play' than a fuller module like the MiG-21. If you're interested in something more analogue than the F-16 I'd suggest the DCS Viggen module (I have a video on that too). Let me know what you decide on!
how max speed (that module) in forsage please????????
Excellent vid jive, will you be doing more detailed ones in the future? Also your a pilot? cool beans!
I might do an 'Alternative Flying Techniques' video but I don't plan on any serious tutorial vids.
With the second stage afterburner on the MiG-21, who needs those RATO modules? This thing accelerates scary fast that thing on.
I have some questions about your career choice.
I do have a passion of aviation. I've had so ever since i was little, and had kind of a bad experience with my ears during a trip to Mallorca. Since then I've gained a sort of fear-respect for planes (ærefrygt in Danish, don't know if there is an English translation), that lead to the developing of my passion and I'm often flying in FSX.
I'm now considering to become a pilot, probably cargo or something along those lines. I am now curious to know the biggest drawbacks, and the good things about being a pilot.
Cheers from Denmark :)
I have an awesome name Your question really deserves a more comprehensive answer than I can give in a UA-cam comment but in a nutshell the drawbacks are early starts and the good things are that it's such a complex and diverse role. Before I was flying for an airline I always assumed that being a pilot meant that you turn up and fly a plane, that was it. In reality it boils down to being the sole responsible party so you often find yourself getting involved with every aspect of the operation eg. identifying and correcting mistakes with loading instructions, fuelling errors, passenger issues etc. The job, especially as a skipper, becomes less about 'flying' and much more about managing a task (the flight) and all of it's many variables whilst operating between the lines of company procedures, regulations and legal obligations. There are good days and bad days of course, both have their own unique rewards and challenges. If you feel passionate about aviation then go for it, the industry is expanding again, it's an enjoyable way to earn a living that you can only properly appreciate first hand.
Thank you for the answer! I have yet to decide if I'm willing to sacrifice holidays and such and push my circadian rhythm. That said i think that the rewards of the job equalize with the drawbacks. Again, thanks a lot for the answer!
+JiveDilettante Can you post your system specs? I wanted to know what periphs (stick, throttle, rudder) you use.
+dcbadger2 I keep them up to date here ua-cam.com/users/JiveDilletanteabout
+JiveDilettante Thanks, was wondering what you used for rudder. I am still in the darkages with my CH combatstick using the keyboard for rudder. Makes playing BOS terrifying, and it one of the reasons I have not gotten the -21bis for DCS.
+dcbadger2 They're worthwhile imo, especially for the Huey
Hi Jive i recently graduated high school and my ambition has always been to be in control of one of mans greatest achievements (commercial aircraft) if you have the time could you give me some pointers on how I could get into the industry? Thanks
Hi Robert, someone asked the same in a different video and I've agreed to try and cover it in an upcoming Q&A vid which I'll try to get to soon. Hope that'll help
+JiveDilettante Many thanks for the quick reply, I will definitely keep a lookout for that Q/A
Apologies that said video is still not around, I'll get to it when I can (hopefully soon!). Life has been super busy
Hey Jive what is the music used in the video, its awesome
Emancipator - First Snow (Ooah Remix)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Antennas to Heaven
Roots Manuva - Witness (1 Hope) Instrumental
Jel - Know you Don't
In order of use. Copied from the vids credits for your convenience ;)
Someone didn't watch the end of the video :P
Braindead to the rescue!
JiveDilettante Oh god, I fucking love you, thanks to you I discovered Roots Manuva, enjoying the shit outta his music :D
Nice video Jive. Have you tried Black Shark 2? From your comments in this video about what you like it may be right up your alley.
If you don't mind me asking, who do you fly for professionally?
One of the many who have a strict social media policy, it's not going to do me any good to say :(
JiveDilettante Oh thats no problem i can tell him for you.
He flies for Jive International.
"Jive Dilettante" Thats.. the most awesome handle ever. Hey, whats your favorite plane on sale right now between 24-29.99?
Has to be the Viggen!
Great video! Really enjoyed it
I mean if their gonna do the Mig-21 DCS might as well do the F-4 Phantom.
Such an awesome aircraft, too bad I have to wait a couple of weeks for the steam release. I would buy it from ED but their DRM system doesn't like the steam version and I don't want to risk it. Another case of DRMs hurting the customer instead of the pirate.
Very good plane as target practice!
Nice video, and good taste in music. :)
hey jive what a nice vid. i wonder why you didn't showcase the nukes.
Thanks! I didn't think there was anything to say about the nukes that hasn't already been said so I left that one out. I do like the big yellow bomb flipswitch though!
Perfect review. Subscribed.
if you can fly the phantom you should, i would like to know what you think of the American counterpart
Woah you are a pilot in real life? Nice! :D
Which airline do you fly for???
Beutifull video thanks for creating it