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  • Ma Long can't read spin on the serve | Illegal serve
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 57

  • @turbozed
    @turbozed 7 місяців тому +24

    Some of those looked illegal, but still not as illegal as Wang Chuqin's serves 😅

    • @oranggendeng1
      @oranggendeng1 7 місяців тому +3

      I agree with u, I find WCQ use
      This serve and get advantage from this. But he only use this serve only in match point or game point

  • @askingwhyisfree7436
    @askingwhyisfree7436 7 місяців тому +7

    Table tennis needs more service rules. It's one of the most disappointing parts of table tennis...

  • @scottbaker-ScottyB
    @scottbaker-ScottyB 7 місяців тому +18

    Hiding the ball Mr. Lin on your serve you must quit Table Tennis and start Badminton sport as your career.

    • @samburrows7277
      @samburrows7277 7 місяців тому +2

      I'm not an expert... But I don't believe you can hide the shuttle on service in badminton either 🤣

    • @botao4456
      @botao4456 7 місяців тому

      Idiot

  • @kevinphoa5482
    @kevinphoa5482 7 місяців тому +4

    There should be a rule where if a player makes an illegal serve a 3rd time in a set, the player loses the set. And if a player makes an illegal serve a 5th time in a match, they lose the match. Let’s see if these sort of players stop hiding their serves deliberately.

  • @dwhan6009
    @dwhan6009 7 місяців тому +10

    저런 선수는 영원히 퇴출시켜야 할듯. 서비스 규정은 ''애매하게 넣어도 된다''라는게 아니고, ''명확하게 리시버한테 보여야 한다''입니다. 선수로써 애매하게 넣는다는것 자체가 fault입니다.

  • @johnbullard5973
    @johnbullard5973 7 місяців тому +6

    He throws the ball up near the centre line, but by the time he has made contact with ball , it is on the edge of the table. Obviously ball not thrown vertically, and he’s turning his body to hide impact point.

    • @gragbogdan5084
      @gragbogdan5084 7 місяців тому +1

      Точно, он в открытую нарушает правило 2.6.2. Подающий должен подбросить мяч почти вертикально вверх, не придавая ему вращения, так, - а судьи умышленно не видят, хотят слить Ма Лонга, как в боксе.

  • @oranggendeng1
    @oranggendeng1 7 місяців тому +5

    I don't understand why u blame this player serve? Why u don't blame Wang Chu Qin?? His serve almost identical like this player. WCQ only use this serve when game point or match point

  • @lltan3138
    @lltan3138 7 місяців тому +11

    This is rampant across all tournaments, ittf should do something soon to stop this.

    • @MiracoMango
      @MiracoMango 7 місяців тому

      There have been some power struggles between personnel of the ITTF and WTT. Currently, most international events are organized by WTT, and ITTF is effectively being marginalized

  • @Reviewsandstuff-op2gd
    @Reviewsandstuff-op2gd 7 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of Par Gerell...Another great server....

  • @TENISDEMESAOFICIAL
    @TENISDEMESAOFICIAL 7 місяців тому +1

    this video no have subtitles!

  • @jayanthrs8811
    @jayanthrs8811 7 місяців тому +2

    Hmm..
    This will be interesting

  • @vblueice
    @vblueice 7 місяців тому +16

    Hiding the serve and not even throwing the ball straight up. its has a whole ass parabola trajectory

    • @cxxxrbon
      @cxxxrbon 7 місяців тому +4

      The ball doesn't have to go straight up, but it should be obvious that the ball is going up more than to the side, therefore his toss is fine. The only problem is the hiding.

  • @acesmith8623
    @acesmith8623 7 місяців тому +1

    Using the body to hide the service is illegal.

  • @namiman8158
    @namiman8158 7 місяців тому +2

    Helloo

  • @user-zs2oj3gw9e
    @user-zs2oj3gw9e 7 місяців тому +2

    Serve가 다 반칙서브네! 몸으로 다 가리고 보이지도 않네요!

  • @oswiecimleaven
    @oswiecimleaven 7 місяців тому +2

    wwww wang chuqin king of Illegal serve

  • @JointyTv
    @JointyTv 7 місяців тому

    If you look closly the ball is allways visible. At the serve at 4.50

    • @gragbogdan5084
      @gragbogdan5084 7 місяців тому

      2.6.2. Подающий должен подбросить мяч почти вертикально вверх, не придавая ему вращения, так, . Мяч набрасывает на себя, есть короткое скрытие мяча. Он нарушает правила.

    • @Junewc1
      @Junewc1 6 місяців тому

      no, it's really not lol, 1:22

  • @orionbelt1663
    @orionbelt1663 7 місяців тому

    Left hand serve...it confius ma long...full hand grip serve so hard you read amount the spin..sometimes it no spin .sometimes very heavy..

  • @jytan740
    @jytan740 7 місяців тому +3

    how was he not faulted when he did the illegal serve

  • @Iman-iman-iman
    @Iman-iman-iman 7 місяців тому +1

    he hide the serve

    • @StevesDataStore
      @StevesDataStore 7 місяців тому +1

      yes, using the body to hide, its very clear.

  • @farzanamini2403
    @farzanamini2403 7 місяців тому

    This serve is illegal

  • @noah7477
    @noah7477 7 місяців тому +6

    Amazing how emratthich can see illegal serves but Ma Long and professional umpires can't

    • @elisanabria2068
      @elisanabria2068 7 місяців тому +15

      Ma Long can see the problem, but the umpire don't.

    • @adrianreysasing2245
      @adrianreysasing2245 7 місяців тому +3

      MaLong actually knows that, he is already dealing with the problems since day one, Chinese tournament level has all sorts of styles including bias services like Wang chuqin does sometime, but for the record he really has problem reading service from left handed players and players with deceptive serves like someone who recently defeated him from the Japanese team using upside down serve.

    • @esmolol4091
      @esmolol4091 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@adrianreysasing2245This is not true. At that level you know ALL serves in your sleep. They don't missread, IF it's not hidden.

  • @nandehutu2194
    @nandehutu2194 7 місяців тому

    I dont think the serve is illegal. See the slow motion please.

  • @danielchao6041
    @danielchao6041 7 місяців тому

    How's that illegal?

    • @whatevereyewant
      @whatevereyewant 7 місяців тому +7

      You are supposed to have your contact point be openly transparent to the receiver. If it is and you can still trick them, great for you. But the ball must be thrown up straight and not into the body where you can hide it with your non paddle arm. I’m not certain when they changed it, but back in Waldner’s day it was very common to see.

    • @freizeitgestaltung
      @freizeitgestaltung 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@whatevereyewant Since August 2002 it's illegal to hide the ball while serving. The decision was made in April 2002. In 2023 the official rule is: "From the start of service until it is struck, the ball [...] shall not be hidden from the receiver by the server or his or her doubles partner or by anything they wear or carry."
      (By the way: Ma Long also tends to hide his serves behind his head.)

  • @ssg1743
    @ssg1743 7 місяців тому

    It’s the camera angle. If Ma Long stands more to his right he could see the ball actually.

    • @carlres8371
      @carlres8371 7 місяців тому +1

      But then you are out of position for next ball

    • @ssg1743
      @ssg1743 5 місяців тому

      @carlres8371 That's his problem. It happens when a right-handed plays wirh a left-handed all the time.

    • @travisbutro6725
      @travisbutro6725 5 місяців тому

      do you read the ITTF service rule 2.6.5 ?
      "2.6.5 As soon as the ball has been projected, the server’s free arm and hand shall
      be removed from the space between the ball and the net.
      The space between the ball and the net is defined by the ball, the net and
      its indefinite upward extension."
      only the server have to serve according to the law.
      It do not mention whether the receiver can see the ball or not...

  • @mudspc
    @mudspc 7 місяців тому

    If Ma Long sees an ilegal serve he will simply go and complain to the umpire, he will do it for sure he doesnt hesitate to complain against his opponents. I think the title should be Ma Long had troubles returning the serve, he has troubles reading Lin Yun-ju' serves too.

    • @fraer111
      @fraer111 7 місяців тому +5

      No he won't. He is interested in overcoming

    • @tabletennistips5232
      @tabletennistips5232 7 місяців тому +2

      @@fraer111 no malong think he can win this match so he think that illegal serve no matter for him

  • @cuongtkong58
    @cuongtkong58 7 місяців тому +1

    Not just spins, I am pretty sure he also CAN'T read English . . . OR my handwritings on the walls of every girl's bathroom in China that well either.

    • @rokometer8
      @rokometer8 7 місяців тому +2

      ?

    • @cuongtkong58
      @cuongtkong58 7 місяців тому

      @@rokometer8 Okay. All better now.

    • @dlxaytra1087
      @dlxaytra1087 7 місяців тому

      What!?

    • @cuongtkong58
      @cuongtkong58 7 місяців тому

      @@dlxaytra1087 Good. If you don't understand, then I don't have to explain.

    • @dlxaytra1087
      @dlxaytra1087 7 місяців тому

      @@cuongtkong58 nahh I understand I'm just shocked at the last part..

  • @user-tx8qg2zi6d
    @user-tx8qg2zi6d 7 місяців тому

    Мяч закрывает все видят...

  • @thebawzrittenhouse1433
    @thebawzrittenhouse1433 7 місяців тому

    Dima