Mosi: the 14-year-old male gorilla, will never become a silverback. | The Lomako’s Group
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- At Gaia Zoo, there are two adult male gorillas who will never have the chance to become silverbacks because they have been neutered.
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Thank you for raising your voice. I have signed the petition. It's very sad to see male adults looking like young females. It is definitely not ethical.
Thank you for raising your voice for these beautiful gorillas. They deserve our respect, not to have any part of them taken away with just one decision🙏.
@@karintogorillas I need to signed that petition to
STOP CASTERATING GORILLAS 🤬
STOP CASTERATING GORILLAS 💪🙏🙏
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Mosi and Loango in this zoo have been castrated 😭😭 🦍
@@sapiophile545i condemn no no no please
I heard about this castration before and learned that one of my babies I follow, Shufai was also castrated, tbh I was speechless, like why?! was there any other solution? Seriously! This make me so sad and mad, angry, upset omg I cant 😭 I'll join/vote whatever it is to stop this cruelty
Thank you Animal Diaries for sharing this important message 💜
Sending thousands of 💜 for Loango and Mosi 🫂
Let’s raise our voice for the rights and dignity of gorillas 🦍, they’re all amazing, Let's take action for these gorgeous fellows🫶❤️🦍.
А где Шуфай. Что с ним. Я ищу его в интернете. Пришлите сайт где наш многострадальный Шуфайка.
You all don’t seem to understand that these gorillas have to be managed in captivity. All these silverbacks who aren’t strong enough to win a fight against another silverback….what are they supposed to do with them? Put them all together and allow them to kill each other. Some get along well. It not all of them. You’re gonna put them in with females and youngsters…..for what?….when there is a bigger and stronger silverback to care for the females and youngsters. What are they supposed to do with all these uncastrated males?…..put them back in the wild …..really?…..they’ll never survive in the wild if they can’t make it in captivity.
Shufai is from Twycross Zoo. He lives with his parents Ozala and Oumbi, Grandma Bidi n Auntie Assante.
Same with Shufai.. it’s unbelievably cruel..
They were deprived of all the strong muscles💪, beautiful silverback🦍, and prominent crown. I feel very sad 😫.
Is Shufai castrated???
@@eagse yes, sadly
@@mariapittman8970 I just read on SV 's YT with that sad and horrible news. So now only Lope can carry Oumbi's line. Matadi's dead. May Ozala's descendants have more n more kids.
Shufai is doing fine.
It’s very disturbing what is going on with these gorillas might as well let them go free take their chances with poachers
Rather than being castrated, it's better to fight against poachers.💪🙏🫶❤️🦍
Thank you for sharing this on your channel. Lets hope that no more animals are subjected to this cruel treatment. ❤️🦍
You are welcome 🤗🫶🫶❤️🦍
Dear Lord, why? Not only do you take away their freedom, you take away their dignity, their right to be as they were created. What gives any of you the right to play God?
If you are doing this barbaric act, what else are you doing that we are not aware of?
You have made me and thousands of other animal lovers angry and sad.
No trust, No hope, No justice
Let’s raise our voice for the rights and dignity of gorillas 🦍 🫶❤️🥰🦍
So true.what else they are doing while they are on those tables.I noticed males having sodomite tendencies also.Im sorry, but a lot of these countries experiment with too many drugs.
@@vickigreen-ui1ts true 🥹
This is so sad. Really had an effect on me seeing them so thin. But it's to do with the lack of testosterone. So sad.
Richard the silverback in Prague zoo has two sons 14 and 13 who have been neutered also.
They need to leave these beautiful creatures alone 😢❤🦍
The first time I saw them, I even doubted Loango's birth date was correct. Despite their large frames, they were so thin and weak. This cruel behavior cannot continue😱. Now it seems that the bachelor troop may be their best option.
@@AllThingsGorilla The silverback will just see them as black backs and no threat at all so I guess they'll be able to stay in family groups ❤🦍
@mmaphilosophy That's why blackbacks can live within their original families without being seen as threats by the silverback. But... I still so sad 😞😭😭🙏🫶❤️🦍
For me, this is really criminal and disgusting! If the zoos don't know what to do with the males, they need to stop breeding gorillas. Even the bachelor groups are not species-appropriate. In the wild, males only live temporarily in a group, not permanently. They are either able to form their own troop or live alone. Thank you for raising this and for linking to the petition!
It makes me angry they do this the same is also true for shufai at twycross and ajabu at praha. They say its because there too many males. Just put them in bachelor groups instead. It is ridiculous.
Пришлите пожалуйста координаты где Шуфай. И как его увидеть.
Tycross zoo. England.@@user-qs5oz9yx3m
Shufai is at Twycross zoo. Slogger Vlogger does videos for them. He is not silverback age yet. After seeing these sweet boys, it angers me to think he will look like that too. I feel it is taking there dignity.
@@carlanngiles350 Спасибо. Мне тоже жаль эти поступки людей. Но к сожалению программы по спасению и обучению их для того чтоб потом выпустить в дикую природу очень прозрачны и почти не эффективны. Потому как вырастить животное и обучить его и если это социальное животное, то создать группу для проживания в дикой природы в его естественном ареале обитания -это одна часть. И она более эффективна. Но потом идет вторая часть. Это куда выпустить животное.или группу . В подходящее для их дальнейшего проживания. Везде люди заняли естественную среду обитания какого- либо животного. Либо под строительство домов, либо под разделования земли для посадки культур. Вы даже не можете себе представить какая это проблема. Я не защищаю поступки кострации прекрасных самцов, но я уверена что это как говорится-" Из двух зол.- выбирают меньшее.". Может и эти зоопарки выбрали меньшее.
Agreed 🤝 bachelor troop is a good option
Thank YOU for posting this. It needed to be stated. Mosi. Loango. Shufai. Jabari. Zungu (RIP). Kukuma (RIP). All 'maimed' through these procedures.
🤝All gorillas should be respected.🙏🙏🙏🫶❤️🦍
Excuse me, gorillas are respected. That’s why we have breeding programs and troops of gorillas here in the states. In case they go extinct in Africa….at least we have some left here to show are grandkids and future generations. I would think that trying to prevent extinction is respect enough.
And Ajabu too, from Zoo Praha 😢
@@lost_1qaz I’m sorry for Ajabu 😖😫
@@laurenurban3942 Thank you for your comment❤️ . Though we may have differences, our common ground is our love for gorillas🫶❤️🦍, and that’s enough🤝.
How completely sad is this?! What struck me immediately is how thin Mosi appeared to be, lacking muscle. If this is done so they can continue to live with their family in peace, I still disagree. Until this video, I had never heard of this practice, and hope it is a rare reality!!! ❤😢
Before seeing them, I had never heard of this practice. When I first saw them and learned they were male, I was shocked. The male gorillas I've seen at this age never grow up to look like them. I thought they had health problems. Understanding why they are like this makes me very sad💔💔. Every time I see them, I feel heartbroken😖. They look so frail; it breaks my heart💔🙏😖🫶❤️🦍.
I have questions and I've only seen this troop a couple of times. I initially thought the 14yrs old was a female and a sickly one at that but what I want to know is are they treated differently by the other members of the troop? What is their projected lifespan now? Has anyone thought of rehoming unwanted gorillas either back to an African sanctuary or by creating a sanctuary with similar climates to Africa?
Infelizmente eles vão alegar que não tem espaço, essas criaturas que estão castrando não tem empatia, não gostam de gorilas, porque pegaram os gorilas? Porque os gorilas não saíram sozinhos e pegaram um avião, já fazem testes com macacos, agora estão fazendo perversidades com gorilas.
Mosi has a sister, so he often interacts with her. However, from what I've seen, Loango is always by himself and seems very lonely.🙏🙏🙏🫶❤️🦍
This is/was very disturbing😢😢😢How can they do this these two don’t even have the large bump on their head. That is really nothing more than just a muscle to their jawline but still they even took that from these two. These are not like our fur babies. These are majestic should be silverbacks, which now will never happen. This makes me cry and very upset. I am here to join whatever we need to do to stop this cruel punishment. 😢😢😢😢😢
It’s incredible how much hormones play a part in development in the animal kingdom. This should never be done. Those poor creatures.
@ZombieQueen819 The first time I saw them, I cried😭. Before I knew the information, I thought they weren't eating well or had health problems. Through understanding, I learned that they were castrated. They won't mature into the muscular and powerful silverbacks nature intended them to be. This made me even sadder 😭. I don't understand why this method was chosen. Why? Why? Why?😢😢😢
@jujubegold Please 🙏Let’s raise our voice for the rights and dignity of gorillas💪🫶❤️🦍
they move like rickity old men. Likely it impacts their bone growth as well.
Defeats the purpose of preservation. If the establishment cannot handle these gorilla let them go into a refuge.
This made me cry 😢 I'm so sorry this happened to them 💔 break my heart Thay are some beautiful and amazing animals 💓🦍😍🥰💓
The first time I saw them, I really cried😭. They are all amazing , but now they lost the silver that all male gorillas are proud of😭😭😭🦍.
@@erykah835 me too 🥹
It’s so strange to see them so thin. No beautiful thick thighs or big round butt! The missing silver is the saddest!🥹
Because they were castrated, they won’t mature into the muscular and powerful silverbacks Nature intended them to be, is so sad 😭😭
That is horrible. Why would anyone think that was a good idea?!? It saddens me to see this. They deserve to be the silverbacks they were born to be. Where can I find the petition??? This is definitely a cruel and disgusting thing to do to them. I signed the petition
www.change.org/p/eaza-eep-stop-castrating-gorillas
Thank you for your support and encouragement. We all love gorillas 🦍, and seeing such things can be heartbreaking 💔
That's disgusting.
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I love gorillas and this is very sad :(
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signed the petition...I did not know Shufai was also castrated 😥 thank God Lope was sent to France to live in a bachelor pad where he can be the magnificent silverback he was born to be 😌
🤝🤝🤝Thank you for signing the petition as well. Such cruel things should not happen to any gorillas. They are such amazing creatures and a gift from God.♥️🦍👍🙏🙏🙏
Gorilla Shunfai is also castrates. I would like to know why zoos not release the bachelors in the wild
They should be respected.🙏🫶❤️🦍
那個動物園這麼殘忍，如果是人類，要不要也這樣
這種行為讓人無法接受 🫶❤️🦍
Why in the hell did they castrate those 2 gorillas??? This is so wrong and immoral!! Shane on the zoo
This doesn’t happen in North America. The SSP has a well managed gorilla population and creates bachelor groups.
There are bachelor troops in Europe as well. My channel documents two bachelor troops. Before seeing them, I didn't even know 🤷♀️ that such cruel treatment of gorillas existed.🙏🫶❤️🦍
@@AllThingsGorilla the problem is Europe didn’t really put much effort into bachelor groups until about 10 years ago. Another problem with Europe is integrating immature males into a group of females, which has led to unstable group dynamics.
First time i saw a video of him i thought it was a female gorilla that was really sick because of how thin she is. Its so horrible and sad what they have done to him.
The first time I saw them, I was shocked 😱 and felt shame for the people making those decisions. Their actions are barbaric and unethical.
I can hardly believe this is happening today......barbaric....I would imagine it brings other issues i.e bone length with not adequate muscle strength and bulk to support, terrible future implications.....well done for highlighting
@@user-mz1bl9qe4z Let's raise our voice for the rights and dignity of gorillas 🔊🦍♥️🥹🤝🤝
www.change.org/p/eaza-eep-stop-castrating-gorillas
Wow, that is the thinnest gorilla I've ever seen.
There's a reason he's so thin-because he's been neutered😓. Neutering causes a drop in testosterone, leading to loss of fat and muscle🥹🥹🫶🙏♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏.
I think it is more to allow them to stay with their families. Zoos only have limited space. Gorillas raised in Japan are not likely to be sold to zoos in the western countries. All because of their practices and care of these animals. I should say lack of care.
Neutering them is largely done to prevent them from being separated from their families. However, Europe now has many bachelor troops that can accommodate these adult male gorillas. Japan will face the same issue, as Kiyo and Gentaro are already too old to continue living in their family group. Japanese zoos should consider where they should go in the future.🦍♥️🙏🙏🙏🙏
Why must they be castrated in the first place??? What's the reason n whose idea is this????
I don't know who came up with this idea first, but it's definitely the worst idea😖.
@animal_diaries_tube I really hate this. Whoever decided this was so cold. Poor Shufai, he won't know how it's to be a leader and a silver back.
@@eagse 😭😭🙏
DO NOT is what I meant obviously 🙄
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What is the purpose of this? Who is castrating these gorillas and why? Why would anyone want to do this????
I also don't understand the purpose of those who make such decisions😮. Seeing gorillas being castrated, unable to have beautiful silverbacks, is truly cruel😫😭😤.
@@AllThingsGorilla Cruel, sick and sad.
Agreed 🤝🫶🙏🦍
@@glw5166 we need to raise voice for
So sad.
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I see it as sad but where can they house several silverbacks?
Então porque pegaram os gorilas em Países da África se não tiveram planejamento e inteligência para isso, que ódio, pegaram para castrar? O animal racional é um parasitos nessa terra, nenhum animal, vegetal precisam do animal racional, mas o animal racional precisa de tudo dessa terra, só que é ganancioso e capaz das piores atrocidades, eu acho engraçado Países que estudam o peito para falar que são desenvolvidos, mas não vejo isso, continuam com circos com animais selvagens maltratados, e agora estão ajudando a extinguir os gorilas, porque a ideia inicial era procriação em cativeiro para aumentar a população de gorilas, sinceramente, se essas criaturas pudessem castravam várias famílias humanas, a vida para muitos não tem valor, não respeitam a vida de outro humano, acha que vai respeitar a vida dos gorilas? O mundo inteiro tem que saber disso, enquanto homens morrem na África combatendo caçadores, em Países atrasados estao castrando por falta de planejamento, BURRICE, seres abomináveis, não dá para ficar por isso mesmo, isso tem que parar!!!!
All of them should be respected.🤝🫶❤️🦍🙏Whether they are in the wild or in the zoo.🫶❤️🦍
It can be done! Here in the U.S., we have "bachelor" groups. Young males anywhere from ages 5-8, Before they start maturing, are put together. They grow up and mature Into silverbacks. Yes, there can and will be moments of aggression amongst them, but that's entirely natural. Some of them, based on their genetics, will eventually get the call to be a silverback leader of his own female group.
It's the European zoos who practice this barbaric castration. They either don't know how to manage a group of all males, or just don't Want or care to learn. And shame on those who continue this practice. 😠
Shame on them
Annie brother is already looking like this.I hope they haven't gotten to him.Or it would be his frame is just slender like annie.You know these places want MONEY, so if they move Annie the tourist may slow down.They need places for the older animals who don't care to breed anymore or just old.Maybe a place next door so they can see the others but not bothered with hyped up Silverbacks and young adults apes bothering them. You take away the attractions .The money slows down, so we shall see.
Annie’s brother- Kiyomasa, he is already 12 years old, and some silverbacks have offspring by that age.
I'm very worried about Kiyomasa's future situation and hope he won't be the next gorilla to be castrated.
Japan indeed doesn't have a bachelor troop. If they were to integrate into their original families, they would be seen as threats by their fathers. In short, I'm very concerned about Kiyomasa.
@animal_diaries_tube I signed the petition so prayerfully. It brings awareness .
@@delphine88313 😍🫶❤️🦍🙏 Thank you 🤝❤️🫶🦍
@@AllThingsGorilla 😊
@@AllThingsGorilla 😊
Bonjour bonne journée à vous c'est très beau j'aime beaucoup 😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you 🙏🤝🫶❤️🦍
Good morning superbe 👍👍👍👍😍😍🤩
ゴリラも人間と同じです。
愛情を持って動物福祉をお願いします。
🤝🤝🤝 They’re all amazing fellows, they should be respected.❤️🫶🙏🦍🤝
so sad
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It was very traumatic for you to learn about this apparently. The adult response is actually to formulate a solution to the issue that is being currently solved by gorilla castration. And ask yourself why they do not spay the females. Understand, the majority of your audience will balk at any break up of the families. The bulk of your audience will think it perfectly reasonable to keep females alive for 70 years and giving birth into their 50s just because we can. But, grow up and provide an answer. The fundamental problem is that hunting for these animals and breaking up their families to domesticate them was evil. There are likely no good ways to keep them in captivity. But I do agree, castrating the males because you do not want to pay for the habitats and support of the bachelor groups that the market does not want to see is pretty pathetic.
Your words give me a new perspective. I agree with using bachelor troops instead of castration, as I know of two very good bachelor troops. I didn't even know about Loango and Mosi before, or that people would castrate gorillas. I feel sad and ashamed of this behavior. We should find better ways, like adults, instead of sacrificing the rights and dignity of gorillas. This includes female gorillas as well.🫶🫶❤️🦍💪
I also agree with Bachelor groups. I have always said that in a perfect world all the Great Apes would be free and living wild with their families it that’s not possible because of humans. I would prefer them be in Zoos ( good zoos) as opposed to slaughtered or starve etc. There is no good answer but I don’t believe castration is a good solution. I love watching bachelor groups. They have their own charm. I worry about what will happen to Gentaro and Kiyomasa because there are no bachelor groups in Japan maybe they will start one or maybe they will send them abroad. There are a couple in France that are great. But I hope they will stop castrating.
Bachelor groups are quite popular actually'
agreed
@@mariapittman8970 I agree with everything you posted. There are several bachelor troops that are popular with viewers on youtube. I love watching them, they have interesting and sometimes amusing interactions with each other. I am worried about all of the Gorillas in Japan, too many are related. A bachelor troop might work for the boys. I worry they may be too old to adjust to each other. Annie is the only option for breeding with Gentaro and I don't think there is an option for Kiyomasa. The same applies to Momoka, Komomo and Riki. Sumomo at least has the possibility of Ringo or Jabali.
USA ZOO
MOSI (G.G.G)
Sex: M
Birthdate: October 10th 2006 (parent)
Birthplace: The Little Rock Zoological Gardens
Capture date: captive born
Dam / Sire: Sekani / Fossey*
Transfers:
October 10th 2006 / May 22nd 2012: The Little Rock Zoological Gardens
May 22nd 2012 / now: Lincoln Park Zoo
Offspring: none.
These two "Mosi" should not be the same "Mosi."🤝🤝🦍♥️
So sad , why why Mosy soo sorry beautiful one day you going to be free darling 😞🥹
I am also deeply saddened by what happened to Mosi💔, and hope that such cruel things never happen again🦍♥️🙏🙏🙏🙏.
@@AllThingsGorilla 👍🏻