I can't believe there's nothing about Marshall's bets in this video -- from Game Night episode in season 1 we know that Marshall always wins in everything. Then in the episode where we find out about Marshall and Lily's long-term bets Marshall ends up winning all the bets that are shown: Robin never returns the hairdryer, Barney never watches their home video, Ted doesn't break a leg. So Marshall betting on Ted and Robin ending up together is a huge foreshadowing of the ending.
Wow. That is a brilliant observation. I just finished binge watching HIMYM, and started over. Just today I rewatched Game Night. I'd like to pretend I picked up on that, but alas I did not.
The song that plays when they show Tracy walking up the stairs with the umbrella and ted reading the book - before she’s revealed - is called “The Funeral” so much foreshadowing
I noticed that Ted having difficulty moving on, after Tracy's death mirrored Tracy having the same problem moving on from the death of her boyfriend, years earlier.
I actually found the twist before the ending, i just finished the show for the first time a few weeks and you miss the biggest teasing to the mothers fate, when lily and marshall do that quizz to see who would take care of their children in case they die, ted said that he would use a crocodile pupet to tell the kid that he lost his parents, out of no where the camera changes to his future kids with him showing them that pupet and asking if they remember it.... the toy that he would use to inform lily and marshall kids of their demise... i had to pause the episode because i was in shock!
wait, what? What is it?... No wait, don't tell me. I'm rewatching the series and had just seen that scene with Tracy the Stripper. And I wondered if anyone else did a video about it on youtube. But first i had to make sure the mom's name was indeed Tracy, because it had been a long time since i last watched the series.
Which is part of what makes the idea that she was basically just a stand-in for Robin so awful. It's clear how much Ted loved The Mother all throughout the series, yet he apparently was still in love with Robin the entire time? I hate that so much. There's so much that's wrong with it. Tracy dying I can understand. It's the rest that's awful to me.
@@RaynmanPlays I agree completely, I felt like it basically made The Mother a baby making machine so he could have his two kids and then go back to Robin. Also, is rude to Robin who can't have/didn't want kids that the two guys that loved her couldn't stay with her because they had to go procreate.
People still nagging about the ending of the show? People die at a young age all the time. One show actually had the guts to put together a story featuring that particular challenge for a middle age father.
I missed it for obvious reason. Got too emotional in that episode that it took so long for Ted to find the right one. Mothers fate never really crossed my mind since the episode was designed to make us invested in his sad present rather than what’s in Ted and Tracy’s future. Those who figured out were geniuses
The "Countdown" episode is absolutely legendary, albeit in a bittersweet way. They cleverly hide numbers in the background of every scene, from 50 to 1, up until Lily gets out of the cab to deliver the crushing news to Marshall. 😭💔
The ending of this show would’ve been better received if the writers didn’t make us fall in love with Barney & Robin as a couple. Also, they should’ve always left a little room for Ted and Robin to work like they did in Friends for Ross and Rachel. The writers made it so clear that Robin wasn’t the mother that they didn’t write any loophole for her and Ted to be together. Also, also, spending an entire season on a wedding that ends in divorce was not it. Half the season should’ve been the wedding and the other half future forwards to see how their marriage dissolved, Ted with his wife and kids, and more scenes of the gang hanging with the mother., etc.
Yanno, looking back on the ending as my current self, I think the whole thing with Ted and Robin finding their way back to each other was fine. He makes a point to show that Robin is still very much in their lives, and they always had chemistry. The big issue was Robin was not ready to settle down at that point. Even with Barney, the main issue was NOT him (I always loved him and Nora more and thought Nora was the right person for him to marry in the wedding foreshadowing), it was her main focus on her career. He was travelling with her for all of her World Wide News reporting, but he was not happy with the way their lives were all about her and her career and how he was drifting away from his best friends. Robin wasn't ready to get married, and watching Tracy and Ted was too hard for her because once she was ready to be married, they were happily together, even if they didn't get married until 4 years before Tracy passed. And then for those 6 years she was probably ready to settle down with Ted (having taken the anchor job for WWN and not travelling anywhere near as much as before), but he was not over Tracy; Tracy was the mother of his children and very much the love of his life. When he tells his kids the whole story of his time with Robin, it's because he's finally seeing her the same way again and has realized she does too; the chemistry was always there, it was finally the right time for both of them.
@@ryanedwards7487 exactly!! One of the reasons why I liked the ending was that even though this is the love story between Ted and Robin, tracy was still the one. I would like to believe Ted will never love Robin like how he did tracy. But the story was so focused on Robin cuz it is being told 6 years after the love of his life died and after the entire miserable moments he's finally over her AFTER SIX YEARS! And he's been seeing Robin for the past few months and luckily (though it still makes me sad) she's been the one he's thinking about
Yeah I agree - my main problem with all of it was that it was almost too rushed at the end. If we had more time of Ted without Tracy before he goes to Robin then I think it would have been received better. I know there was probably years (its been a bit since I’ve watched) between Tracy’s death and Ted going after Robin but we see it within a span of like 5 minutes which is what didn’t sit well with me. I know that Tracy was probably the absolute love of Ted’s life but them showing him running to Robin right after the story finishes kind of undercuts that love a bit.
There is one that people always forget... In an episode where Ted from the future says that Robin was never alone and talks about how they (his children) were always with her, they show the drawings that they made as kids, and in all of them they are only Ted, Robin and the two of them, no drawing it's theirs and Tracy, inferring that by that time Robin is with them all the time, the mother has already died.
penny (ted's daughter) states mother has been dead for 6 years in their timeline, meaning the kids were 8-11 yrs old something, and i don't think this age group makes those childish drawings...but the theory here is still great
@@pratitithakur174 - Yeah fair point. Pretty sure many of the pictures were just the kids with Aunt Robin, without Ted, so quite often she would take them out for the day and hang out, giving Ted and Tracy time for themselves time to time.
You guys totally missed out the one where Ted and Tracy were telling each other stories like "an old married couple" where Ted mentioned that Robin's mother almost wouldn't have come to her wedding, to which Tracy replies "Come on, what mother wouldn't come to her daughter's wedding" upon hearing which Ted starts to cry.
As with the time travelling episode, that's not really a foreshadow. That's the writers screaming in our faces that the mother has been dead the entire time. Seriously, how could anyone be surprised by the end of the show that the mother is no longer around?
@@Seelof well, when I first saw it, I thought that there will be another flash-forward to Ted and Tracy's wedding, and HER mom wouldn't come for some reason. How naive I was...
@@ЖаннаКалишевич This was exactly how I interpreted it. And then I thought, why would Ted be the one crying about that? What a bleeding heart. And then I didnt give it another thought. 😂
Any comparison with Friends falls apart when you see how unflinchingly HIMYM looks at LOSS and examines heartbreak. So many times, we see Ted grappling with the sense of loneliness and futility. We see Marshall and Lily face the real milestones of a life together.
Marshall and Lily counterpart of Friends is Monica and Chandler which is alright, they also have real problems such as Chandler changing jobs, long distance (remember shark porn?) and fertility. However there is no Ted counterpart in Friends. Ted might be annoying at times but he grows and his characther evolves while Ross only gets more annoying by time. Robin and Barney also had huge characther developments while Joey regressed a lot. Rachel seems like she had some but she still falls flat as I think her success in not earned in the show. She got most of her jobs by the help of a man like Marc earlier and then Ross bribing her boss at the end instead of her own merits. Pheobe also never actually change, started and finished as the quirky one. If you look at first and last seasons of the show, Chandler is the only one to actually show some growth. Find peace with his parents, found his true calling, actually worked for it and made a career change, somewhat realistically, in late 30s, overcame commitment issues. But you can see the changes and development in all 5 of the main cast in Himym. Friends is a sitcom, Himym is a comedy show with real stories
@@okanidug6035 I don’t think your comparison is exactly fair. Yes, HIMYM is much more complex, but there definitely is more character development in Friends, than you claim
@@okanidug6035 well, like I said, HIMYM is much more complex, but there is still a lot of character development, such as Rachel (from a spoiled brat, who lived off of her dad, to a successful woman and a mother), and even Joey did have some success at acting and no longer needed Chandler to pay the rent and food…
I figured it out during the Stella arc. There is a scene where Stella and Ted's hypothetical children are shown parodying the actual children and Stella is shown with them and it occured to me as never even see or hear from the mother in the story telling scenes because she's passed on. They could have had her speak with a different actress like how we are to believe Bob Saget somehow sounds like Ted.
That's what people don't get about the death. If she wasn't "killed off" (to put it in the overly dramatic terms people use), then where was she the ENTIRE time the stories were being told, if they still lived happily in that same house together? Lol.
@@dparag14outside the mother, Victoria was my favorite love interest. Apparently she was supposed to be the mother if the show had needed after season 2. She would have still died and Ted would have ended with Robin.
In Season 4 Episode 10 - The Fight, it foreshadowed Marshall’s dad being dead. In the light saber scene at the end they were at the Eriksen house and his Dad wasn’t sitting at the head of the table.
I think my biggest issue with the ending was that it felt like in order to make Robin and Ted end up together they had to destroy years of character development and progress that they all made. It wasn’t about the mother dying necessarily or even Barney and Robin getting divorced (even tho I adored them together), it was the fact that it had been hammered home season after season after season that Ted and Robin just weren’t right for each other. The thing is, the creators anticipated the show ending much sooner. If it had, it would have made sense for Ted and Robin to end up together. But it went on so long, and they built the relationship between Robin and Barney so well, and they made so much sense together, and they built up the mom and we got to see how lovely she and Ted were together that the whole thing ended up feeling like a betrayal. And it also turned the mother into a plot device and essentially a uterus to give Ted children that Robin didn’t have to raise since she never wanted kids. By the time she and Ted end up together, the kids are like 15-16 years old. It just ended up feeling cheap and forced. I loved a LOT of things about Ted and Robin. I genuinely did. They always had a special relationship and friendship and I just always adored their bond no matter if they were friends or romantic. I just feel like they should have done more to leave that door open if they were going to end up that way. If they had, it wouldn’t have felt so forced. I’m just glad that everyone ended up happy, but I will admit the ending made me so furious when it aired and I still have some bitterness over it.
There wasn't progress. Robin became shrill, yelling at Patrice and even saying at the Barney proposal that it was a manipulative play. Ted and Robin never stop having some feelings for each other.
Quite the opposite, actually. One of the themes the show hammered home right from the beginning is that people never really change all that much over time. Whenever there’s a job change, a breakup, or other life event, the characters always return to their previous status quo. They even did an entire episode spelling out the concept in the classic Revertigo episode. Also, Ted and Robin is NOT a happily-ever-after ending. It’s a here-we-go-again ending. The two know they aren’t perfect for each other, yet never stopped caring for each other as more than friends even when they weren’t a couple. Odds are good that their relationship will fail again, but they want to give it yet another try.
You should see the deleted scene from the last episode, wheb Robin basically confesses all of her feelings for him and he shuts her down because he's in love with his wife. Even with the ending we got, that scene would have made it sooooo much better.
The song that is played when we first see the mother is called "the funeral" - that is also a good hint. And also in season 9 when Ted tells Tracy the story of how the lap breaks and that Robins mother showed up, Tracy says: "What mother isn't going to be at her daughters wedding?" and Ted cries. To me it was always clear that the mother is not alive, since there were so many hints.
The mother was also depicted as being good to the heart, she gave everyone good advice and was nearly described as angelic, frail, tender and an almost too perfect human being, I think this gave subconcious vibes that she had deceased.
In the episode when we see the mother's life before she met Ted, her boyfriend dies and she says something to the effect of: everyone gets one love of their life and I had mine already. So, in a way, Ted and Tracy were perfect for each other during the time they had together but they were never each other's 'main love interests'. Ted's was always Robin and Tracy's was always her first boyfriend. And in a way, even though she died tragically young, maybe it was supposed to mean she got to reunite with her 'one' again and that gave Ted the time to do the same thing.
Except that’s not what Ted says. He always said that she was the one that changed the while concept of love for him, that reset everything. Tracy was 21 when her boyfriend died, so yeah, she was very young. But also, she never allowed herself to really fall in love again, until she met Ted. As you can see by the way she reacted when proposed with her bf and with Ted. The way they did everything with Robin disgusts me, because not only Robin clearly didn’t love Ted anymore (probably not ever since season 4) and he wasn’t the love of her life, as he never wanted her to be herself. But also, it made it seem like he only got with Tracy because Robin couldn’t have/didn’t want kids.
The only dumb thing about this is robin says I think in season 8 or something to ted clearly I don't love you, it's time to move on so after teasing the perfect wedding to barney why in the world would she finally do a 180, it is dumb sorry
I thought the same thing. Leaving it where ted gets his kids and Robin ends up with him after getting to achieve her dreams which was why they were held back in the first place and Traci gets to "be" with Max. Crazy but still great.
I just thought that he wanted to have met her sooner and for their love to last longer. I feel bad that Ted was searching for his soulmate for such a long time and that he had lost her. He and Tracy are a perfect couple, just like Marshall and Lily, and he and Robin are "ok".
That "Love in the time of cholera" book detail is so smart. Never knew nor picked it up. The ending was literally right there. I guess some fans are just way smarter than others to look deep into this and discover it
I actually loved the ending. Maybe bcoz when I watched it for the 1st time I just binged it within a month or two. It made sense that Ted and Robbin would end up together. But if we are to span the series out through 9 years it might seem otherwise.
“What mother wouldn’t come to her daughter’s wedding?”-Tracy. Upon saying that Ted chokes up and Tracy tries to comfort him. Foreshadowing that they both knew she wouldn’t live long enough to see Penny’s wedding.
While they dropped plenty of hints about Ted and Robin ending up together, the problem is they stuck to that original conceit despite the characters growing and evolving beyond their original design.
Yep. And they also made Tracy so wonderful--and wonderful for Ted--that even though we saw her death coming a mile off we didn't have enough time to process it and decide to be happy that Ted had finally decided to get on with life after six years as a widower and single dad. They created a wonderful series and came frustratingly close to sticking the landing, but missed in the end.
a) I've got #5 right at time when I saw the episode; b) When you see #1, you understand that Ted loves the Mother more than Robin. Robin is his bainarlagen.... . And in that episode when Klaus explain lebenslager.... he says "If you have to think about, you never felt It". So he Just felt that with the Mother.
The song playing, as Klaus is explaining lebenslager to Ted, before the flash forward to Tracy's arrival on the platform, one year later, is called The Funeral, which is another foreshadowing of Tracy's untimely death.
What about when Ted runs out of stories to tell Tracy? I feel like at that point she already died and Ted was imagining having that conversation with her as a way to cope with his grieving. Also, when she said what mother wouldn’t be at their child’s wedding? And he starts to get emotional. I think it’s because she already passed away.
Well they did also know she was terminally sick for some time before she did pass; I haven't watched the series in a while but it could have been a conversation they had after they had kids and after they knew she would at least most likely pass, but before she actually did
wow this theory actually shocked me for a second. It would've been a new low in the show if that was true, but i realised that Curtis (Farhampton Inn manager) acknowledges Tracy's presence multiple times and even makes a crass joke about it, so Tracy was definitely not a figment of Ted's imagination at that point
I love the part where ted says the first time the mother heard the shelfish joke she laughed then in how your mother met me she laughs in his econ 305 class. i know its not foreshadowing per say but still a cute call back
We should've known Tracy was dead. When Ted talks about his happily ever after with Stella, she came in and interrupted the story, asking if he wasn't done yet whereas in reality, his story goes on without incident
I did pick up on many of the clues since the whole framework of the story parallels my father's talk with me a month after my mother died. The similarities and the numerous stark differences make this series one of the most profound shows I've ever viewed from beginning to end.
Another part of the number one is when Ted is talking to Tracy about Robin's wedding and Tracy says what kind of mother would not show up to her daughter's wedding and Ted gives her a very sad look
If they would have just made the last season's 10 episodes about Barney and Robin's wedding, and then focusing the latter episodes on Ted and Tracy and then then building up the spark between Ted and Robin, then we wouldn't have hated the series finale. They just focused the whole season around their wedding, only for them to break up in 15 mins, have Barney revert back to his womanizing days, undoing his character development until he had the baby. They made Robin, a strong independent character jealous of Ted and Tracy and have her leave the group, not because she loved Ted, but because she was jealous seeing how she could have had what Tracy has. And then use the mother's death as a plot device at the last moment to have Ted and Robin back together.
This whole "undoing his character development" is BS. Being like that has always been a coping mechanism for him, for his abandonment and insecurity, despite coming across as confident. Going through a divorce, feeling alone, a bit hurt, confused, lost... No wonder he reverted back to that for a little while! It's not uncommon at all. All he needed was to navigate those rough seas, and refind some purpose in life, which eventually came along for him.
At the end of the 10th episode of the 4th season, Marshall is seen at a thanksgiving 5 years in the future, in this episode his father is no longer seen in the scene, predicting his death in the 6th season.
Let’s all be honest, Ted and Robin broke up again after a few months. The whole thing was clearly just like the lobster situation, where Robin couldn’t have Ted, so she wanted him again. In my mind, they broke up again and Ted went to find someone compatible to him.
Idts. by the end they both are by definition the most compatible by definition. They can just be in love without having all those expectations they had in the past. Because they already had everything they had ever wanted
@@nupurlanjekar2676 - And by that time they would both be probably in their early 50's, which is definitely the stage of life where companionship, care and trust are way more important than things like romance.
S. 6 Ep 1 hinting there will be a own season for the wedding: Opening scene is Ted sitting on a bench at Robin an Barneys wedding picking on the label of his beer bottle. The camera is making a swing by the church on to Ted on the bench. During this camera swing can be seen shortly a sign stating "There is a season for everything"
There were hints that she might be dead but the time traveler episode is what gave it away for me personally. I still hated that ended because they made Robin the worst fit for ted after 9 seasons and Tracy was perfect. Which is the reason for the backlash and why they felt the need to make an alternate ending the true ending.
My foreshadowing was made clear when Marshall had a hard time fantasizing about other women. So he had to “kill off” the love of his life. Before he can get down and dirty. And wait an appropriate amount of years before moving on.
Re-watching the scene where Ted races to her apartment to say he wants those extra 45 days after knowing the fate of the mother really hits differently than watching it the first time.😭
himym ended so long ago. it was a sitcom in which i really connected with the characters and im still pissed 8 years later abt tracy's fate. the two times it was forshadowed in farhampton when theyre old and the 45 days speech i was shook like that cant be it i will never get over it
At james’s wedding the episode also talks about single stamina and couples coma and when marshall and lilly leave the wedding ted and robin say “im not tired at all”
in the theory about how old robin and ted are when they get together, I'm surprised you didn't' acknowledge the pack they make about being together at 40 if they're both single.
They would have been early 50's at that point. At that age, relationships become most based around companionship, rather than romance and stuff like that.
if this helps any ted-tracy shippers (like me), the original deleted scene after the last scene in the finale shows robin and ted meeting at a cafe or smn where they clear up a lot of stuff, ted says he has learnt to be happy and they both move on, meaning they DONT end up together. deleting that scene just ended up creating a crappy scenario where ted was in love with robin all along and simply settled for tracy, and that it was robin who was "the one" all along.
Thanks for doing this. I'm an older guy who never watched this series until recently when I binge-watched it. You've cleared a few things up. Now that I've finished, I wish I had paced myself.
I feel like tho if they just have the mother show up while teds telling the story it takes away from her character I’d argue that’s a creative decision rather than a foreshadow
And wouldn´t Tracey also sit there next to Ted, and telling with him the entire story ? I mean, i think a Father would tell the story if the Mother is already dead.
It was quite obvious the mother was dead simply bc the kids sat around for what would have been an 9 hour long story from their father as teenagers willingly.
The #1 is where I figured it out, and when ever I have a discussion about this I always bring it up. Cuz folks obviously weren't paying attention if they were shocked that the mother died. Where the show left a bad taste for me was Barney becoming a father.
He literally slept with hundreds of women, and had many scares. He had also been a baby person already (interacts fine with his brother's and other peoples kids). Not surprised this came along. Also that he was clearly older, more financially stable, and better set up to take care of the kid most likely, compared to whoever the young lass was he hooked up with.
HIMYM was a well-thought-out tv series Not like some other series that goes along as the series goes on I've watched some series with lazy-writings Some plots and settings only exist for an episode or a season, then they completely forget about it later One of the most ridiculous I've seen is from Modern Family where Joe had a crush on Claire It's just downright creepy that Joe had romantic feelings for his older half-sister And not until the final season, they rarely address Claire and Mitchell to be Joe's brother and sister
There is a big one in season one foreshadowing that Robin is the one. In the Halloween episode, Ted waits for a girl dressed in a pumpkin costume, and she never shows up. However, at the end of the night Robin shows up covered by a blanket the color of a pumpkin, and stays with Ted in the rooftop.
I think the most obvious one is that basically from day one they told you the show wasn’t about meeting the mother. Ted was always trying to plan his life and things always played out differently. Lily said flat out, “you don’t get to design your life”. So if you went into the show expecting that to be what the story was, well, Lily told you it wasn’t. The story you played out in your head was the story about the mother and how her and Ted would fall in love and live happily ever after. You were designing the show, as it were.
I Love rewatching this show and honestly the most recent time when the stripper said her name was Tracy and Ted goes "that's how I met your mother" I SCREAMED how I fully missed that
There’s no way you could’ve missed that foreshadowing. They’re literally counting down the whole episode. This video is more about subtle clues that viewers may have missed.
In Season 4 Episode 10 - The Fight, it foreshadowed Marshall’s dad being dead. In the light saber scene at the end they were at the Eriksen house and his Dad wasn’t sitting at the head of the table.
The 45 days broke me when i saw it for second time, when i knew.... still makes me cry. Tracy was perfect. They should have been the old couple on porch playing brige with Lilly and Marshal :(
Fun fact:Shakiras best song "hay amores" is a song of the moivie love in the time of cholera which talks exacrly about what happened to tracy and ted reminiscing about it in a long story to not let go her memorie
every creator wants to be christopher nolan.and they forget that sometimes keeping it simple is the best thing to do.Simple things writers missed are: 1. Tracy and ted go on couple of dates, fall in love, have fights, stick together, get married , have kids, 2. Barney and Robin's marriage was great fir couple of years then then started to fall apart. They file divorce. Then realised they still in love and get back together. P.S. Yellow umbrella is more romantic than blue horn.
In the episode where marshal reveals that in order for him to fantasize about other women he first has to kill Lily in the fantasy He further adds how Lily dies of a disease that can’t be cured,after they had spent some good time This is what exactly happens in ted’s story
It wasn't that the Idea for the ending was bad ironically on paper it's a great ending specially with all the hints we were provided and since it was concrete ending from the start But it was actually the time given to each concept of the ending was mismanaged which led to misconceptions for casual viewers, the chemistry between Barney and Robbin their character growth and the portrayal of the character of mother and the fact how well written it was considering all the hype build up to it is what made people hate the ending
Everyone fan of the show know the problem between Robbin and ted wasn't love but what they wanted from life but at the end of the show that problem was resolved individually ted got what he wanted from his life and so did Robbin so now they can live together sa there is no difference in their thinking but since these concepts weren't given enough time and some imp scenes like the one in the coffee shop where ted and Robin meet after so many years
I feel like people hated the ending because they are superficial and despite all of HIMYM being so great because it dealt with the hard, confusing and complicated aspects of life (good and bad, love and loss), they expected some kind of lame fairytale ending. Those who have lived the complexities of life (such as myself) loved and understood the ending.
@@debuthunter5389no it’s not that, the main problem with the finale is that it was rushed. The entire 9 season focuses waaaaay too long on the wedding just to have the ending (and divorce) go down very quickly in the last 2 episodes. Had they taken their time with it, it wouldn’t have been as bad.
@@milenamazzeo9191 - I agree with the bad pacing. The last ep could be longer to replace the fillers like Marshall rhyming on the bus and whether blauman should be at the wedding or not..m
Tbh the mother's death - and only that - would have been a good conclusion, if only that would have made Ted evolve as a character, the way ALL OF THEM did. If that tragic death had made him change and we'd have seen it, like for instance - a good change - he'd stop being so picky for women, or so insisting on the whole soulmate thing, or creepy, or even maybe something like living alone for awhile AND being at peace with it. Even a bad change would have been good, like maybe Ted meets someone, she meets NONE of his criteria, and he still marries her, because what he actually most wants after such a terrible loss is not to be alone - and this, kids, is how I met your step mother... But no, Ted doesn't change at all, and his crappy attitude during the entire series gets rewarded - at the end, he gets the girl he'd wanted since the beginning, who is shown as lonely and miserable with her dogs, exactly the way she'd be in Ted's mind as a single woman in her 40s, and Tracy is only a stepping stone towards Robin and Ted being - urgh - endgame.
The biggest foreshadow of this show was that Barney always and ALWAYS liked/loved Robin. In season1 they hung out together and later on Barney wanted to play "Battleship". In season 2 when Ted ans Robin were together, Barney would still flirt a lil bit. And Barney being eager to know about their relationship status during Marshall and Lily's wedding(tell people what). And he's finally happy when he learns they are not together anymore.
There's also that one episode where Marshall says he can only picture him self being with another woman by imagining Lily suffering a long serious illness and dies first. So maybe the whole series is in Ted's head and the mother is still alive.
That 45 days scene was when it clicked for me. I had that "OH MY GOD" moment of realization, but kept quiet because my wife didn't catch on, like she said here, "Ted's just a hopeless romantic." During the finale when we find out her fate confirmed, I explained it to her and she went back and re-watched it, thinking "Holy crap how did I miss that?!?"
Another bit of foreshadowing is at the beginning when Ted is getting ready to tell them the story Luke asks if they are being punished and Penny asks if it’s going to take long possibly foreshadowing Ted has a habit of telling long stories and their reluctance to hearing the story could be foreshadowing Tracy’s fate because they probably don’t want their dad get upset over losing her.
The scene where tracey's shoes walk into frame. The scene with "The when of it is still a little while down the road, however the where of it" The song that plays is called: "The funeral" which adds a whole different demention to the scene
Another thing that may have been foreshadowing the mother's fate was when he imagined if the woman who left him at the alter hadn't, in that imagine spot with the blonde kids she shows up to give her two-cents on the story. Dude spent like nine years telling this story to his kids, a story that's purportedly about how he met their mother, if she were still around in their lives I guarantee she'd have shown up at some point in the process to comment on SOMETHING.
One of the last season 9 episodes gives an obscure clue that nearly everyone misses - Ted Mosby is based in part on the life of Teddy Roosevelt. He even says "My name is Ted!" to Blauman in their telepathic discussion about who is more like TR and therefore should get the girl they both seem to be chatting up. Teddy Roosevelt met the love of his life Alice in college. He was head-over-heels in love with her, but she died shortly after giving birth to their first child. He was devasted and moved out West to become a rancher to throw himself into physical work to block out his emotional pain. After a year or so he went back to NYC and there ran into his old childhood friend, and likely first love/crush, Edith. They married and the rest is history.
Oh theres one i noticed in season 1. When Victoria leaves for Germany, she says if we are single in the future lets give it another try, to which ted jokingly replies "even if we arent" foreshadowing how he ends up trying to get back with her while shes engaged to Klaus and she leaves Klaus for him.
I'm still surprised about the people that missed all of these! it was obvious. the people who didn't like the finale didn't understand the show... ps: :the only one I missed was the tombstone ^^
I love so much of this show but will never accept that ending, it was like they created this amazing story with beautiful character development and then just said "hey let's undo EVERYTHING" and I will always think that Barney and Robin belong together and that Ted and Robin don't. However, I do still love the show and this video was really well done 🙂.
I think they panicked when the kids came back for season 2, went, "whelp, they've grown! And they're gonna keep growing! We'd better do the ending right now before they grow anymore". So they didn't have all of the character development done yet. And then when they got to the end it didn't really fit but they didn't have any other choice. Which is why I think tv writers should have the whole show plotted out from start to finish before they start filming it or even pitching it. But they never do.
I can't believe there's nothing about Marshall's bets in this video -- from Game Night episode in season 1 we know that Marshall always wins in everything. Then in the episode where we find out about Marshall and Lily's long-term bets Marshall ends up winning all the bets that are shown: Robin never returns the hairdryer, Barney never watches their home video, Ted doesn't break a leg. So Marshall betting on Ted and Robin ending up together is a huge foreshadowing of the ending.
They actually made an unofficial clip when lily is paying marshall when they are old after finding out they got back together.
@@HIM3153 which is actually inaccurate because Marshall pays lily when Ted marries the mother, so lily should pay him 10 dollars then, not 5
@@annakornilova297 actually in that clip she does pay him 10 dollars
Marshall actually lost the super bowl bet. The bet that gets Barney addicted to gambling.
Wow. That is a brilliant observation.
I just finished binge watching HIMYM, and started over. Just today I rewatched Game Night. I'd like to pretend I picked up on that, but alas I did not.
The song that plays when they show Tracy walking up the stairs with the umbrella and ted reading the book - before she’s revealed - is called “The Funeral” so much foreshadowing
omg yes
Omg I just got the chills….that’s so true!!
Top 10 *Times You Missed* Foreshadowing Details on HIMYM
That just made me irrationally sad
I noticed that Ted having difficulty moving on, after Tracy's death mirrored Tracy having the same problem moving on from the death of her boyfriend, years earlier.
I actually found the twist before the ending, i just finished the show for the first time a few weeks and you miss the biggest teasing to the mothers fate, when lily and marshall do that quizz to see who would take care of their children in case they die, ted said that he would use a crocodile pupet to tell the kid that he lost his parents, out of no where the camera changes to his future kids with him showing them that pupet and asking if they remember it.... the toy that he would use to inform lily and marshall kids of their demise... i had to pause the episode because i was in shock!
OMG you're right!
Mind blownn
OMG WHAAAT
I figured out every little hint of the mothers demise except for that one detective Mosby and Tracy would be proud lol
wait, what? What is it?... No wait, don't tell me. I'm rewatching the series and had just seen that scene with Tracy the Stripper. And I wondered if anyone else did a video about it on youtube. But first i had to make sure the mom's name was indeed Tracy, because it had been a long time since i last watched the series.
Seeing Ted's face when he is saying he wants those extra 45 days.. So romantic, it brings me to tears every time I see it! What a great actor.
Which is part of what makes the idea that she was basically just a stand-in for Robin so awful. It's clear how much Ted loved The Mother all throughout the series, yet he apparently was still in love with Robin the entire time? I hate that so much. There's so much that's wrong with it. Tracy dying I can understand. It's the rest that's awful to me.
@@RaynmanPlays I agree completely, I felt like it basically made The Mother a baby making machine so he could have his two kids and then go back to Robin. Also, is rude to Robin who can't have/didn't want kids that the two guys that loved her couldn't stay with her because they had to go procreate.
This is when I knew something was odd with how it eventually ended!
People still nagging about the ending of the show? People die at a young age all the time. One show actually had the guts to put together a story featuring that particular challenge for a middle age father.
Ted asking for those extra 45 days was a dead giveaway about the fate of the mother. I can't believe so many people(me included) actually missed it!
I actually found it when I first watched it! I was so confused for way too long-
YESSS I KNEW IT THE SECOND HE SAID THAT!
So many clues. In the first episode he calls Robin the love of his life.
I didn't. Told my friend that must be the reason and he said how stupid what that be, haha.
I missed it for obvious reason. Got too emotional in that episode that it took so long for Ted to find the right one. Mothers fate never really crossed my mind since the episode was designed to make us invested in his sad present rather than what’s in Ted and Tracy’s future. Those who figured out were geniuses
The "Countdown" episode is absolutely legendary, albeit in a bittersweet way. They cleverly hide numbers in the background of every scene, from 50 to 1, up until Lily gets out of the cab to deliver the crushing news to Marshall. 😭💔
Why did Marshall choose to move away from his home town, which he claims is paradise?
@@davidz2562 I'm guessing a good New York law college was his plan in the long run.
@@JoeZanDeathKiller He tells Lily he wants them to move to St Cloud to raise their kids there.
Fun fact : Jason Siegel didn’t know what Lily was going to say when she got out of the cab- his reaction is genuine. Makes it all the more sad.
I agree. I remember excitedly noticing the numbers and counting down with my mom before getting to that final 💔
The ending of this show would’ve been better received if the writers didn’t make us fall in love with Barney & Robin as a couple. Also, they should’ve always left a little room for Ted and Robin to work like they did in Friends for Ross and Rachel. The writers made it so clear that Robin wasn’t the mother that they didn’t write any loophole for her and Ted to be together. Also, also, spending an entire season on a wedding that ends in divorce was not it. Half the season should’ve been the wedding and the other half future forwards to see how their marriage dissolved, Ted with his wife and kids, and more scenes of the gang hanging with the mother., etc.
True
Yanno, looking back on the ending as my current self, I think the whole thing with Ted and Robin finding their way back to each other was fine. He makes a point to show that Robin is still very much in their lives, and they always had chemistry. The big issue was Robin was not ready to settle down at that point. Even with Barney, the main issue was NOT him (I always loved him and Nora more and thought Nora was the right person for him to marry in the wedding foreshadowing), it was her main focus on her career. He was travelling with her for all of her World Wide News reporting, but he was not happy with the way their lives were all about her and her career and how he was drifting away from his best friends. Robin wasn't ready to get married, and watching Tracy and Ted was too hard for her because once she was ready to be married, they were happily together, even if they didn't get married until 4 years before Tracy passed. And then for those 6 years she was probably ready to settle down with Ted (having taken the anchor job for WWN and not travelling anywhere near as much as before), but he was not over Tracy; Tracy was the mother of his children and very much the love of his life. When he tells his kids the whole story of his time with Robin, it's because he's finally seeing her the same way again and has realized she does too; the chemistry was always there, it was finally the right time for both of them.
If you see the Ted and Robin lunch scene that was cutted on the finale, you'll receive the ending in a better way.
@@ryanedwards7487 exactly!! One of the reasons why I liked the ending was that even though this is the love story between Ted and Robin, tracy was still the one. I would like to believe Ted will never love Robin like how he did tracy. But the story was so focused on Robin cuz it is being told 6 years after the love of his life died and after the entire miserable moments he's finally over her AFTER SIX YEARS! And he's been seeing Robin for the past few months and luckily (though it still makes me sad) she's been the one he's thinking about
Yeah I agree - my main problem with all of it was that it was almost too rushed at the end. If we had more time of Ted without Tracy before he goes to Robin then I think it would have been received better. I know there was probably years (its been a bit since I’ve watched) between Tracy’s death and Ted going after Robin but we see it within a span of like 5 minutes which is what didn’t sit well with me. I know that Tracy was probably the absolute love of Ted’s life but them showing him running to Robin right after the story finishes kind of undercuts that love a bit.
These are the moments that makes it more than just a sitcom.
There is one that people always forget...
In an episode where Ted from the future says that Robin was never alone and talks about how they (his children) were always with her, they show the drawings that they made as kids, and in all of them they are only Ted, Robin and the two of them, no drawing it's theirs and Tracy, inferring that by that time Robin is with them all the time, the mother has already died.
omg ur right
penny (ted's daughter) states mother has been dead for 6 years in their timeline, meaning the kids were 8-11 yrs old something, and i don't think this age group makes those childish drawings...but the theory here is still great
@@pratitithakur174 - Yeah fair point. Pretty sure many of the pictures were just the kids with Aunt Robin, without Ted, so quite often she would take them out for the day and hang out, giving Ted and Tracy time for themselves time to time.
@@debuthunter5389 yeah that also makes sense
I have watched this show start to finish many times and actually missed seeing the picture Now I have to go back and watch it again !
You guys totally missed out the one where Ted and Tracy were telling each other stories like "an old married couple" where Ted mentioned that Robin's mother almost wouldn't have come to her wedding, to which Tracy replies "Come on, what mother wouldn't come to her daughter's wedding" upon hearing which Ted starts to cry.
As with the time travelling episode, that's not really a foreshadow. That's the writers screaming in our faces that the mother has been dead the entire time. Seriously, how could anyone be surprised by the end of the show that the mother is no longer around?
@@Seelof well, when I first saw it, I thought that there will be another flash-forward to Ted and Tracy's wedding, and HER mom wouldn't come for some reason. How naive I was...
@@ЖаннаКалишевич This was exactly how I interpreted it. And then I thought, why would Ted be the one crying about that? What a bleeding heart. And then I didnt give it another thought. 😂
wasn't really that much of a foreshadow. at that point her fate was pretty obvious
I was still surprised.
Any comparison with Friends falls apart when you see how unflinchingly HIMYM looks at LOSS and examines heartbreak. So many times, we see Ted grappling with the sense of loneliness and futility. We see Marshall and Lily face the real milestones of a life together.
Marshall and Lily counterpart of Friends is Monica and Chandler which is alright, they also have real problems such as Chandler changing jobs, long distance (remember shark porn?) and fertility.
However there is no Ted counterpart in Friends. Ted might be annoying at times but he grows and his characther evolves while Ross only gets more annoying by time.
Robin and Barney also had huge characther developments while Joey regressed a lot. Rachel seems like she had some but she still falls flat as I think her success in not earned in the show. She got most of her jobs by the help of a man like Marc earlier and then Ross bribing her boss at the end instead of her own merits. Pheobe also never actually change, started and finished as the quirky one.
If you look at first and last seasons of the show, Chandler is the only one to actually show some growth. Find peace with his parents, found his true calling, actually worked for it and made a career change, somewhat realistically, in late 30s, overcame commitment issues. But you can see the changes and development in all 5 of the main cast in Himym.
Friends is a sitcom, Himym is a comedy show with real stories
@@okanidug6035 I don’t think your comparison is exactly fair. Yes, HIMYM is much more complex, but there definitely is more character development in Friends, than you claim
@@tomaspelc1486 Can you give me some examples? I like Friends but I stand by what I said
@@okanidug6035 well, like I said, HIMYM is much more complex, but there is still a lot of character development, such as Rachel (from a spoiled brat, who lived off of her dad, to a successful woman and a mother), and even Joey did have some success at acting and no longer needed Chandler to pay the rent and food…
Exactly! Friends has nothing on yhis.
I figured it out during the Stella arc. There is a scene where Stella and Ted's hypothetical children are shown parodying the actual children and Stella is shown with them and it occured to me as never even see or hear from the mother in the story telling scenes because she's passed on. They could have had her speak with a different actress like how we are to believe Bob Saget somehow sounds like Ted.
I thought this too when I first saw that scene in that episode
I was still rooting for Victoria all the time. They complete ruined the story.
@@dparag14 then they would have killed of Victoria
That's what people don't get about the death. If she wasn't "killed off" (to put it in the overly dramatic terms people use), then where was she the ENTIRE time the stories were being told, if they still lived happily in that same house together? Lol.
@@dparag14outside the mother, Victoria was my favorite love interest. Apparently she was supposed to be the mother if the show had needed after season 2. She would have still died and Ted would have ended with Robin.
The best foreshadow of the mothers fate is her first appearance. As soon as she steps on screen, Band of Horses’ “the Funeral” plays
In Season 4 Episode 10 - The Fight, it foreshadowed Marshall’s dad being dead. In the light saber scene at the end they were at the Eriksen house and his Dad wasn’t sitting at the head of the table.
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I just saw that episode. They are just fighting wildly.....may be their parents are not in home.
I think my biggest issue with the ending was that it felt like in order to make Robin and Ted end up together they had to destroy years of character development and progress that they all made. It wasn’t about the mother dying necessarily or even Barney and Robin getting divorced (even tho I adored them together), it was the fact that it had been hammered home season after season after season that Ted and Robin just weren’t right for each other. The thing is, the creators anticipated the show ending much sooner. If it had, it would have made sense for Ted and Robin to end up together. But it went on so long, and they built the relationship between Robin and Barney so well, and they made so much sense together, and they built up the mom and we got to see how lovely she and Ted were together that the whole thing ended up feeling like a betrayal. And it also turned the mother into a plot device and essentially a uterus to give Ted children that Robin didn’t have to raise since she never wanted kids. By the time she and Ted end up together, the kids are like 15-16 years old. It just ended up feeling cheap and forced. I loved a LOT of things about Ted and Robin. I genuinely did. They always had a special relationship and friendship and I just always adored their bond no matter if they were friends or romantic. I just feel like they should have done more to leave that door open if they were going to end up that way. If they had, it wouldn’t have felt so forced. I’m just glad that everyone ended up happy, but I will admit the ending made me so furious when it aired and I still have some bitterness over it.
couldn’t have said it better
There wasn't progress. Robin became shrill, yelling at Patrice and even saying at the Barney proposal that it was a manipulative play. Ted and Robin never stop having some feelings for each other.
Barney and Robin were terrible together
Quite the opposite, actually.
One of the themes the show hammered home right from the beginning is that people never really change all that much over time. Whenever there’s a job change, a breakup, or other life event, the characters always return to their previous status quo. They even did an entire episode spelling out the concept in the classic Revertigo episode.
Also, Ted and Robin is NOT a happily-ever-after ending. It’s a here-we-go-again ending. The two know they aren’t perfect for each other, yet never stopped caring for each other as more than friends even when they weren’t a couple. Odds are good that their relationship will fail again, but they want to give it yet another try.
You should see the deleted scene from the last episode, wheb Robin basically confesses all of her feelings for him and he shuts her down because he's in love with his wife. Even with the ending we got, that scene would have made it sooooo much better.
The song that is played when we first see the mother is called "the funeral" - that is also a good hint. And also in season 9 when Ted tells Tracy the story of how the lap breaks and that Robins mother showed up, Tracy says: "What mother isn't going to be at her daughters wedding?" and Ted cries. To me it was always clear that the mother is not alive, since there were so many hints.
The mother was also depicted as being good to the heart, she gave everyone good advice and was nearly described as angelic, frail, tender and an almost too perfect human being, I think this gave subconcious vibes that she had deceased.
In the episode when we see the mother's life before she met Ted, her boyfriend dies and she says something to the effect of: everyone gets one love of their life and I had mine already. So, in a way, Ted and Tracy were perfect for each other during the time they had together but they were never each other's 'main love interests'. Ted's was always Robin and Tracy's was always her first boyfriend. And in a way, even though she died tragically young, maybe it was supposed to mean she got to reunite with her 'one' again and that gave Ted the time to do the same thing.
yes!! i thought i was the only one who thought of this!
Wow, this one comment flushes the fan hatred and disappointment towards the show's ending. Thank you.
Except that’s not what Ted says. He always said that she was the one that changed the while concept of love for him, that reset everything. Tracy was 21 when her boyfriend died, so yeah, she was very young. But also, she never allowed herself to really fall in love again, until she met Ted. As you can see by the way she reacted when proposed with her bf and with Ted.
The way they did everything with Robin disgusts me, because not only Robin clearly didn’t love Ted anymore (probably not ever since season 4) and he wasn’t the love of her life, as he never wanted her to be herself. But also, it made it seem like he only got with Tracy because Robin couldn’t have/didn’t want kids.
The only dumb thing about this is robin says I think in season 8 or something to ted clearly I don't love you, it's time to move on so after teasing the perfect wedding to barney why in the world would she finally do a 180, it is dumb sorry
I thought the same thing. Leaving it where ted gets his kids and Robin ends up with him after getting to achieve her dreams which was why they were held back in the first place and Traci gets to "be" with Max. Crazy but still great.
I knew when he raced to the mother before he met her - wanting more time. You only want more time when there is none left.
but i think it could be fit in the better ending
I just thought that he wanted to have met her sooner and for their love to last longer. I feel bad that Ted was searching for his soulmate for such a long time and that he had lost her. He and Tracy are a perfect couple, just like Marshall and Lily, and he and Robin are "ok".
That "Love in the time of cholera" book detail is so smart. Never knew nor picked it up. The ending was literally right there. I guess some fans are just way smarter than others to look deep into this and discover it
"The time travelers" is the most sad episode of the show for me
it gives me a strange feeling when barney breaks down ted is alone at the bar. I only watched it once, I always skip this episode when rewatching 😅
What about the Window or Tailgate?
Also there’s a headstone that says “Marquez”. Gabriel Garcia Marquez wrote “Love in the Time of Cholera”, Ted’s favourite book
I actually loved the ending. Maybe bcoz when I watched it for the 1st time I just binged it within a month or two. It made sense that Ted and Robbin would end up together. But if we are to span the series out through 9 years it might seem otherwise.
Same here
“What mother wouldn’t come to her daughter’s wedding?”-Tracy. Upon saying that Ted chokes up and Tracy tries to comfort him. Foreshadowing that they both knew she wouldn’t live long enough to see Penny’s wedding.
What about Lily sarcastically telling Barney that he's gonna be a great dad in the episode "best prom ever"?
Also Ted and Robin 's pact, and Lily and Marshall's bet :(
While they dropped plenty of hints about Ted and Robin ending up together, the problem is they stuck to that original conceit despite the characters growing and evolving beyond their original design.
Yep.
And they also made Tracy so wonderful--and wonderful for Ted--that even though we saw her death coming a mile off we didn't have enough time to process it and decide to be happy that Ted had finally decided to get on with life after six years as a widower and single dad. They created a wonderful series and came frustratingly close to sticking the landing, but missed in the end.
a) I've got #5 right at time when I saw the episode;
b) When you see #1, you understand that Ted loves the Mother more than Robin. Robin is his bainarlagen.... . And in that episode when Klaus explain lebenslager.... he says "If you have to think about, you never felt It". So he Just felt that with the Mother.
The song playing, as Klaus is explaining lebenslager to Ted, before the flash forward to Tracy's arrival on the platform, one year later, is called The Funeral, which is another foreshadowing of Tracy's untimely death.
Cope, Ted loved Robin more than the mother, he never thought about it.
What about when Ted runs out of stories to tell Tracy? I feel like at that point she already died and Ted was imagining having that conversation with her as a way to cope with his grieving. Also, when she said what mother wouldn’t be at their child’s wedding? And he starts to get emotional. I think it’s because she already passed away.
Well they did also know she was terminally sick for some time before she did pass; I haven't watched the series in a while but it could have been a conversation they had after they had kids and after they knew she would at least most likely pass, but before she actually did
wow this theory actually shocked me for a second. It would've been a new low in the show if that was true, but i realised that Curtis (Farhampton Inn manager) acknowledges Tracy's presence multiple times and even makes a crass joke about it, so Tracy was definitely not a figment of Ted's imagination at that point
I love the part where ted says the first time the mother heard the shelfish joke she laughed then in how your mother met me she laughs in his econ 305 class. i know its not foreshadowing per say but still a cute call back
We should've known Tracy was dead. When Ted talks about his happily ever after with Stella, she came in and interrupted the story, asking if he wasn't done yet whereas in reality, his story goes on without incident
I did pick up on many of the clues since the whole framework of the story parallels my father's talk with me a month after my mother died. The similarities and the numerous stark differences make this series one of the most profound shows I've ever viewed from beginning to end.
How about...
"Not yet",
"If we're 40 and still single"
"What mother won't come to her daughter's wedding"
Another part of the number one is when Ted is talking to Tracy about Robin's wedding and Tracy says what kind of mother would not show up to her daughter's wedding and Ted gives her a very sad look
I noticed the name Tracy. The kids had actually believed it, so it must have been her name.
If they would have just made the last season's 10 episodes about Barney and Robin's wedding, and then focusing the latter episodes on Ted and Tracy and then then building up the spark between Ted and Robin, then we wouldn't have hated the series finale. They just focused the whole season around their wedding, only for them to break up in 15 mins, have Barney revert back to his womanizing days, undoing his character development until he had the baby. They made Robin, a strong independent character jealous of Ted and Tracy and have her leave the group, not because she loved Ted, but because she was jealous seeing how she could have had what Tracy has. And then use the mother's death as a plot device at the last moment to have Ted and Robin back together.
This whole "undoing his character development" is BS. Being like that has always been a coping mechanism for him, for his abandonment and insecurity, despite coming across as confident. Going through a divorce, feeling alone, a bit hurt, confused, lost... No wonder he reverted back to that for a little while! It's not uncommon at all. All he needed was to navigate those rough seas, and refind some purpose in life, which eventually came along for him.
At the end of the 10th episode of the 4th season, Marshall is seen at a thanksgiving 5 years in the future, in this episode his father is no longer seen in the scene, predicting his death in the 6th season.
Let’s all be honest, Ted and Robin broke up again after a few months. The whole thing was clearly just like the lobster situation, where Robin couldn’t have Ted, so she wanted him again. In my mind, they broke up again and Ted went to find someone compatible to him.
Idts. by the end they both are by definition the most compatible by definition. They can just be in love without having all those expectations they had in the past. Because they already had everything they had ever wanted
@@nupurlanjekar2676 - And by that time they would both be probably in their early 50's, which is definitely the stage of life where companionship, care and trust are way more important than things like romance.
S. 6 Ep 1 hinting there will be a own season for the wedding:
Opening scene is Ted sitting on a bench at Robin an Barneys wedding picking on the label of his beer bottle.
The camera is making a swing by the church on to Ted on the bench.
During this camera swing can be seen shortly a sign stating "There is a season for everything"
I don't think la vie en rose is Ted and Robin's song at all
Right? How dare they
There were hints that she might be dead but the time traveler episode is what gave it away for me personally. I still hated that ended because they made Robin the worst fit for ted after 9 seasons and Tracy was perfect. Which is the reason for the backlash and why they felt the need to make an alternate ending the true ending.
This is the first video I've seen that acknowledges the ending of HIMYM with the novel...outstanding
To be honest the ending suck all of that just to end up with robin
My foreshadowing was made clear when Marshall had a hard time fantasizing about other women. So he had to “kill off” the love of his life. Before he can get down and dirty. And wait an appropriate amount of years before moving on.
Re-watching the scene where Ted races to her apartment to say he wants those extra 45 days after knowing the fate of the mother really hits differently than watching it the first time.😭
himym ended so long ago. it was a sitcom in which i really connected with the characters and im still pissed 8 years later abt tracy's fate.
the two times it was forshadowed in farhampton when theyre old and the 45 days speech i was shook like that cant be it
i will never get over it
At james’s wedding the episode also talks about single stamina and couples coma and when marshall and lilly leave the wedding ted and robin say “im not tired at all”
I think Robin and Ted talking about chemistry and timing shows that they were just not in the right time to be together, and will someday will be.
Such a GOAT show
What about the fact, that we already knew in season 5 (Last Cigarette Ever) Lily and Marshall will have a baby boy first?
Oooh that’s good, that’s true I never stopped to reason on the fact that future Ted says “the day his SON was born”
in the theory about how old robin and ted are when they get together, I'm surprised you didn't' acknowledge the pack they make about being together at 40 if they're both single.
They would have been early 50's at that point. At that age, relationships become most based around companionship, rather than romance and stuff like that.
if this helps any ted-tracy shippers (like me), the original deleted scene after the last scene in the finale shows robin and ted meeting at a cafe or smn where they clear up a lot of stuff, ted says he has learnt to be happy and they both move on, meaning they DONT end up together. deleting that scene just ended up creating a crappy scenario where ted was in love with robin all along and simply settled for tracy, and that it was robin who was "the one" all along.
In the graveyard scene one of them is wearing a yellow hat just like the colour of the umbrella
Thanks for doing this. I'm an older guy who never watched this series until recently when I binge-watched it. You've cleared a few things up. Now that I've finished, I wish I had paced myself.
The fact that we don’t see the mother at home the entire time while he’s telling the story to his kids is also a giveaway.
I feel like tho if they just have the mother show up while teds telling the story it takes away from her character I’d argue that’s a creative decision rather than a foreshadow
@@jinxysaberk - It would just make ZERO sense for her to be absent from the entire length of all the storytelling, when she lives in the same house!
And wouldn´t Tracey also sit there next to Ted, and telling with him the entire story ?
I mean, i think a Father would tell the story if the Mother is already dead.
You guys completely missed Barney foreshadowing a TV show, by getting Ralph Macchio and William Zabka together
The ending for me is perfect, though many wouldn't think so
Because most people are small minded.
It was quite obvious the mother was dead simply bc the kids sat around for what would have been an 9 hour long story from their father as teenagers willingly.
The #1 is where I figured it out, and when ever I have a discussion about this I always bring it up. Cuz folks obviously weren't paying attention if they were shocked that the mother died. Where the show left a bad taste for me was Barney becoming a father.
He literally slept with hundreds of women, and had many scares. He had also been a baby person already (interacts fine with his brother's and other peoples kids). Not surprised this came along. Also that he was clearly older, more financially stable, and better set up to take care of the kid most likely, compared to whoever the young lass was he hooked up with.
Top 10 Plotlines American Dad! Should revisit also loving the TBS run hope it doesn't end
HIMYM was a well-thought-out tv series
Not like some other series that goes along as the series goes on
I've watched some series with lazy-writings
Some plots and settings only exist for an episode or a season, then they completely forget about it later
One of the most ridiculous I've seen is from Modern Family where Joe had a crush on Claire
It's just downright creepy that Joe had romantic feelings for his older half-sister
And not until the final season, they rarely address Claire and Mitchell to be Joe's brother and sister
Johnny Lawrence in the pews looking like he’s still thinking about his rematch with Daniel LaRusso! 😂😂 2:16
There is a big one in season one foreshadowing that Robin is the one.
In the Halloween episode, Ted waits for a girl dressed in a pumpkin costume, and she never shows up. However, at the end of the night Robin shows up covered by a blanket the color of a pumpkin, and stays with Ted in the rooftop.
I think the most obvious one is that basically from day one they told you the show wasn’t about meeting the mother. Ted was always trying to plan his life and things always played out differently. Lily said flat out, “you don’t get to design your life”. So if you went into the show expecting that to be what the story was, well, Lily told you it wasn’t. The story you played out in your head was the story about the mother and how her and Ted would fall in love and live happily ever after. You were designing the show, as it were.
I Love rewatching this show and honestly the most recent time when the stripper said her name was Tracy and Ted goes "that's how I met your mother" I SCREAMED how I fully missed that
This kind of made me want to rewatch the series!
Nothing about Marvin Sr.'s death? They literally counted down to that horrible moment the entire episode!
There’s no way you could’ve missed that foreshadowing. They’re literally counting down the whole episode. This video is more about subtle clues that viewers may have missed.
In Season 4 Episode 10 - The Fight, it foreshadowed Marshall’s dad being dead. In the light saber scene at the end they were at the Eriksen house and his Dad wasn’t sitting at the head of the table.
The 45 days broke me when i saw it for second time, when i knew.... still makes me cry. Tracy was perfect.
They should have been the old couple on porch playing brige with Lilly and Marshal :(
Fun fact:Shakiras best song "hay amores" is a song of the moivie love in the time of cholera which talks exacrly about what happened to tracy and ted reminiscing about it in a long story to not let go her memorie
could it be the yellow umbrella a reference to the yellow butterflies in One Hundred Years of Solitude .... Ted solitude for many years .....
I didn't catch the "45 days" bit the first time I watched the series, but when I rewatched it and Ted gave that line, it was gut wrenching.
every creator wants to be christopher nolan.and they forget that sometimes keeping it simple is the best thing to do.Simple things writers missed are:
1. Tracy and ted go on couple of dates, fall in love, have fights, stick together, get married , have kids,
2. Barney and Robin's marriage was great fir couple of years then then started to fall apart. They file divorce. Then realised they still in love and get back together.
P.S. Yellow umbrella is more romantic than blue horn.
In the episode where marshal reveals that in order for him to fantasize about other women he first has to kill Lily in the fantasy
He further adds how Lily dies of a disease that can’t be cured,after they had spent some good time
This is what exactly happens in ted’s story
i just wish they wouldn’t have made me fall in love w/ robin x barney so hard if they were planning this ending so far ahead of time /:
I hated Robin×Barney
Number 10 is a total stretch
The mother on the grave was definitely a huge Easter egg, shoulda been higher
Agreed number 1.
It wasn't that the Idea for the ending was bad ironically on paper it's a great ending specially with all the hints we were provided and since it was concrete ending from the start
But it was actually the time given to each concept of the ending was mismanaged which led to misconceptions for casual viewers, the chemistry between Barney and Robbin their character growth and the portrayal of the character of mother and the fact how well written it was considering all the hype build up to it is what made people hate the ending
Everyone fan of the show know the problem between Robbin and ted wasn't love but what they wanted from life but at the end of the show that problem was resolved individually ted got what he wanted from his life and so did Robbin so now they can live together sa there is no difference in their thinking but since these concepts weren't given enough time and some imp scenes like the one in the coffee shop where ted and Robin meet after so many years
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The episode before the finale that ends with the mother on the train platform with the yellow umbrella, the song playing is called The Funeral.
This show still hurts me 🥲
Finally! It was always so clear to me that it was supposed to be Robyn. But everyone hated the ending so much, never understood that
If you say that then you missunderstood why people hate the ending
Same
I feel like people hated the ending because they are superficial and despite all of HIMYM being so great because it dealt with the hard, confusing and complicated aspects of life (good and bad, love and loss), they expected some kind of lame fairytale ending. Those who have lived the complexities of life (such as myself) loved and understood the ending.
@@debuthunter5389no it’s not that, the main problem with the finale is that it was rushed. The entire 9 season focuses waaaaay too long on the wedding just to have the ending (and divorce) go down very quickly in the last 2 episodes. Had they taken their time with it, it wouldn’t have been as bad.
@@milenamazzeo9191 - I agree with the bad pacing. The last ep could be longer to replace the fillers like Marshall rhyming on the bus and whether blauman should be at the wedding or not..m
Tbh the mother's death - and only that - would have been a good conclusion, if only that would have made Ted evolve as a character, the way ALL OF THEM did.
If that tragic death had made him change and we'd have seen it, like for instance - a good change - he'd stop being so picky for women, or so insisting on the whole soulmate thing, or creepy, or even maybe something like living alone for awhile AND being at peace with it.
Even a bad change would have been good, like maybe Ted meets someone, she meets NONE of his criteria, and he still marries her, because what he actually most wants after such a terrible loss is not to be alone - and this, kids, is how I met your step mother...
But no, Ted doesn't change at all, and his crappy attitude during the entire series gets rewarded - at the end, he gets the girl he'd wanted since the beginning, who is shown as lonely and miserable with her dogs, exactly the way she'd be in Ted's mind as a single woman in her 40s, and Tracy is only a stepping stone towards Robin and Ted being - urgh - endgame.
The biggest foreshadow of this show was that Barney always and ALWAYS liked/loved Robin. In season1 they hung out together and later on Barney wanted to play "Battleship". In season 2 when Ted ans Robin were together, Barney would still flirt a lil bit. And Barney being eager to know about their relationship status during Marshall and Lily's wedding(tell people what). And he's finally happy when he learns they are not together anymore.
I honestly knew the producers would play a Robin from the very first episode. Meaning, Ted would end up with Robin, just like Roos and Rachel:
There's also that one episode where Marshall says he can only picture him self being with another woman by imagining Lily suffering a long serious illness and dies first. So maybe the whole series is in Ted's head and the mother is still alive.
That 45 days scene was when it clicked for me. I had that "OH MY GOD" moment of realization, but kept quiet because my wife didn't catch on, like she said here, "Ted's just a hopeless romantic." During the finale when we find out her fate confirmed, I explained it to her and she went back and re-watched it, thinking "Holy crap how did I miss that?!?"
Another bit of foreshadowing is at the beginning when Ted is getting ready to tell them the story Luke asks if they are being punished and Penny asks if it’s going to take long possibly foreshadowing Ted has a habit of telling long stories and their reluctance to hearing the story could be foreshadowing Tracy’s fate because they probably don’t want their dad get upset over losing her.
One of the most interesting interpretations of the series that I've seen on youtube.
The scene where tracey's shoes walk into frame. The scene with "The when of it is still a little while down the road, however the where of it" The song that plays is called: "The funeral" which adds a whole different demention to the scene
Another thing that may have been foreshadowing the mother's fate was when he imagined if the woman who left him at the alter hadn't, in that imagine spot with the blonde kids she shows up to give her two-cents on the story. Dude spent like nine years telling this story to his kids, a story that's purportedly about how he met their mother, if she were still around in their lives I guarantee she'd have shown up at some point in the process to comment on SOMETHING.
You forgot about song called "The Funeral" by Band Of Horses when Tracy enter train platform.
One of the last season 9 episodes gives an obscure clue that nearly everyone misses - Ted Mosby is based in part on the life of Teddy Roosevelt. He even says "My name is Ted!" to Blauman in their telepathic discussion about who is more like TR and therefore should get the girl they both seem to be chatting up. Teddy Roosevelt met the love of his life Alice in college. He was head-over-heels in love with her, but she died shortly after giving birth to their first child. He was devasted and moved out West to become a rancher to throw himself into physical work to block out his emotional pain. After a year or so he went back to NYC and there ran into his old childhood friend, and likely first love/crush, Edith. They married and the rest is history.
What about Barnwy's job? Everytime someone asks "What do you do?" Barney says "Please"
Oh theres one i noticed in season 1. When Victoria leaves for Germany, she says if we are single in the future lets give it another try, to which ted jokingly replies "even if we arent" foreshadowing how he ends up trying to get back with her while shes engaged to Klaus and she leaves Klaus for him.
Top 10 running gags from Young & Hungry and top 10 funniest moments from Tyler Perry's House of Panye
Are there 10 running gags in Y&H?
I hated the end of the show but damn they really did foreshadowing well!!
MsMojo’s pronunciation of Edith Piaf’s name at 8:18 was like nails on a chalkboard. Look it up in an encyclopaydia
I saw the entire show a year after it ended, one episode after the other. The ending was perfect. All the time, I wanted them to end up together.
I'm still surprised about the people that missed all of these! it was obvious. the people who didn't like the finale didn't understand the show...
ps: :the only one I missed was the tombstone ^^
What about the fact that the song playing when we learn he meets the mother at the train station is called The Funeral?
I love so much of this show but will never accept that ending, it was like they created this amazing story with beautiful character development and then just said "hey let's undo EVERYTHING" and I will always think that Barney and Robin belong together and that Ted and Robin don't. However, I do still love the show and this video was really well done 🙂.
I think they panicked when the kids came back for season 2, went, "whelp, they've grown! And they're gonna keep growing! We'd better do the ending right now before they grow anymore". So they didn't have all of the character development done yet. And then when they got to the end it didn't really fit but they didn't have any other choice.
Which is why I think tv writers should have the whole show plotted out from start to finish before they start filming it or even pitching it. But they never do.
Barney and Robin do not belong together