I'm happy that so many people are becoming Christian! Welcome to Christianity! ✝❤ I'm Anglican and glad that our wonderful church is still growing! Young Anglican is spot on, I'm glad he is now one of us!
Fellow Anglican here. I also think the big tent approach of Anglicanism is the best. We are unified on the essentials, however allow room for disagreement on secondary issues. I find this approach is the best way towards real unity and mere catholicity.
Using sola scriptura how could you identify primary and secondary issues? Given the Bible makes no distinction between these supposed primary and secondary issues, it seems to be a tradition of man to add these distinctions.
@@Justin-yn5pyWe’re not 100% sola scriptura on the Methodist side but I think Jesus has a lot to say when discussing with the disciples and Pharisees about what’s key and what’s not. That’s just off the top of my head.
I'm an Anglican, I agree! :D For me at least, the only branch of Anglican that I don't agree with is the Episcopalians with their gay marriage that they for some reason allow, but yeah other than that I agree! I mean, I get the logic but Corinthians is kinda thing, y'know.
@@charless7653 In my church, girls can be priests. I think the definition of priest and pastor was changed or at least an equivalent was made. Officially they all are rectors here, but we call them priests because force of habit. Lol
It was actually Young Anglican who convinced me to become an Anglican myself. I wanted a denomination that combined the Traditionalism of Catholicism with the Biblical Sola Scriptura of Protestantism while leaving the Communion table open to all believers of any denomination. Anglicanism fit that description and the ACNA keeps the conservative beliefs as opposed to the liberal Episcopalians.
Sola Scriptura is not scripture, it is opinion. That is why there is no actual reality of scripture being the final authority, and zero ability to determine or create a denomination truly biblical. They are a pastor opinion Church
@@therighteousgoat5165 sounds like a man designed religion you seek. well it was created just to satisfy a man's desire to remarry ,then butcher his desire. Sounds like a horrible reason to change
Hahaha you’re not wrong. I like how you call them “crypto baptists”, basically the same idea behind most doctrine except baptism. In the PCA they would be paedobaptists and that would be to represent the new sign of the covenant for children of believing parents and I would now fall into the category of credobaptist. Other than that, we agree on just about everything else!
PCA is Paedobaptist, but doesn't have a fully Presbyterian view of baptism a lot of the time, because they often say baptism is just a sign that doesn't save
Hello redeemed i just want to say thank you for making videos. Even though I feel like Christ has called me to be Catholic I truly appreciate your videos and dedication to Christ. May God bless you. Deus Vult!
I was originally Anglican, became sort of Athiest out of ignorance and secular propaganda, and now have decided to become a Roman Catholic... Praise Jesus
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
@@a2zz-gk197not really I'm Pentecostal I go to a Catholic school nobody hates each other no one in my church hates Catholic or Orthodox I don't know where you are but in my church which I think is Pentecostal we believe everyone is still a Christian no matter the denomination
@@a2zz-gk197 also is the h word heresy cause from my personal beliefs I thought why do Catholics say hail Mary I thought it was kind of weird but I see it's less of worshiping and treating her as god and more like saying she I holy and should be respected
As a millennial, I find you guys amazing. You’re very smart and help me with my faith. Zoomer what books do you recommend to understand reformed theology?
@@Interns-Eternal-EmpireI think every Orthodox patriarch is independent from each other. The Coptic Pope is just the patriarch of the Egyptian church, he is not the boss of other patriarchs like the Pope in Rome pretends to be.
Its refreshing to see young people smarter than me, im 28 and here is proof of hope for the generations after mine im also a huge fan of a debater named saanvi you all give hope to the future of mankind. Also an uforunate fact of following christ is we get labeled as all kinds of different phobias. Which is fine labeling an opponent rather than a good faith debate is common in todays kind of politics and debate.
I think all the nonsense they teach in school, and the wickedness of modern teachers are turning kids (particularly boys) more conservative. We're already starting to see the tides turn.
Agreed! Redeemed Zoomer and Young Anglican are a beacon of hope! They are proof that Christianity will stay alive and strong! Not many Gen Zers are Christian, I wish more Gen Zers were Christian.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
Great conversation guys. It was helpful in understanding the Anglican position. As a Reformed (Classical) Arminian I sympathize with both parties. We are from the Reformed Tradition in that we hold the 5 Solas and the Reformed view of the Fall of Adam, Original Sin, and Total Depravity, Monergism, and are close on Perseverance of the Saints. But we differ from Calvinists in our view on the Scope of the Atonement, Election, and the nature and scope of Grace. We believe that Christ died for all, that God's grace draws all men to himself and that grace is resistible. By Grace, thru faith, in Christ alone. All glory to God. Love and Prayers from your friendly neighborhood Reformed Arminian brother 😎
Interesting discussion on the Lord's Supper/Eucharist. As someone who was in the Anglican (CofE) church for over a decade, I have seen various attitudes to the bread and wine, from a high view which includes veneration of the Sacrament, to sliced bread torn in bits before the service and the leftovers thrown out. The conservative churches which stand firm on biblical truths (complementarian, biblical marriage etc) were the most likely to have the low view of the Lord's Supper. Many C of E churches don't have weekly communion, or certainly not as part of the Sunday service. But that, frankly, is the least of the C of E's problems.
Its not every day you see someone who converted *to* Anglicanism. Most go from Anglican to Atheist and then to a more charismatic version of Christianity. I'm so thankful to God for giving the Via Media a voice that can reach to his generation!
@@redeemedzoomer6053My husband and I are unbelievably psyched. You and Trent are our favorite UA-camrs. We’re Catholic, but we love your content style. You’ve taught us a lot about the Bible and mere Christianity. I pray for you most days. I think you’re super smart and thoughtful, and, semi-selfishly, I’d love to have you in my denomination lol.
I’n watching this interview now 5-10- 24…I appreciate that like me as a former Jehovah Witness cult member, I am now a “redeemed Boomer” lay Calvinist ! In terms of credentials you two are more theologically astute than most evangelical lay church goers from historical to contemporary times ! I think we are like those in Berea: Acts 17:11 (ESV) [11] Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. I am presently worshiping (as a nonmember) at a local Lutheran LCMS church in S. California with a 4th gen Lutheran as the Pastor, who allows our soteriology deferences but allows me to partake in communion because he thinks we are saved by grace as the fundamental born again doctrine…although he believes you can possibly loose your salvation- which I don’t as Jesus said in John’s gospel… John 6:37-39 (ESV) [37] All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. [38] For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. [39] And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19
@@brittoncain5090 Unless this _isn't_ about Mary, mother of God, it is extremely heretical. The first part is passable, but the second part is sheer madness. "In my hands I place my eternal salvation" UM... WHAT? If Mary was alive as you were saying such things, she would rebuke you on the spot. No person has the ability to grant eternal salvation, only Christ does that; nobody else can stand before the Father and say that your sins do not count against you but Christ. "Because thou art more powerful than all hell together" no human is more powerful than hell, only God is. Mary was a human, born of sin like the rest of us, but it was through her obedient faith that she birthed Christ, and she was saved by Grace through Faith in Christ like the rest of us. She is exemplary for the same reason the Apostles and Saints are exemplary, she dedicated her life to Christ, and never relented her faith, bore the pain and sorrow of watching Him die on the Cross, and stayed true to God's plan for her life.
just got to the young angie's comment about "allegedly Christians" and I gotta say, after watching a dozen or so zoomer vids and now seeing the young angie say that, there doesn't seem to be a lot of self-awareness between the two of them. very glad to see an interest in the things of God among the youth nonetheless, Lord willing it will continue with these.
Regarding the different explanations for Purgatory, the councils and catechism only define that you must believe that there is a purification for some of people who died in a state of grace, and that these people benefit from the prayers of the church. However, the traditional view of the latin chur h was to treat Purgatory as a place with real and material fire, wheter a different abode of Hades like Hell, Bksom of Abraham and Limbo of Infants (St. Thomas Aquinas and Roman Catechism), or as a third place, which would be more in line with Divine Comedy and the view that stuck in the people's mind, which he might have encountered some traditional catholics who were strict on holding this view. It was definedin this way because there were disputes regarding this doctrine, so it was needed to establish and clarify the church position, but they didn' not exclude those who held a different view on the doctrine, but still affirmed the basic points of it. It is somewhat similar with predestination, where tou have different schools with different views like Thomism, Molinism and Congruism, but there are certain points that every school have to affirm in order to not fall into heresy.
In my opinion the United States is a secular Christian nation with freedom of religion the 1st President and father of our country George Washington was a Anglican/Episcopalian
Not all of these people who claim they’re Christian or who are Conservatives in the Political Sense are actually Evangelical Christian or even Christian in general, a good chunk of these people only say they’re Christian because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and ancestors were Christian. There are many people who are only Culturally Christian, Nominally Christian, or Diest who claim to be Christin for social or cultural reasons but in actuality are Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Unitarian Universalist, Theologically Liberal (Liberal Christianity) and New Age Mystics, etc. Also, remember that the United States was NOT founded as a Christian nation, a good chunk of the Founding Fathers were Culturally Christian, Deist, theologically liberal, or sacrilegious heretics that syncretized Western Classical thought, American exceptionalism, extremist forms of nationalism and even in some cases White supremacy with Christianity creating a false religion called “American Civil Religion” by sociologists that on the surface looks like Christianity but in reality is very shallow and just co-opts Judaeo-Christian (Christian and Jewish) terminology for state propaganda. Most of these people described have turned America or their respective countries into a deity instead of focusing on Jesus, some people are turning America and Patriotism into an idol syncretizing it with Christianity. The evils and idolatry of American Civil Religion and Western Classics Civil Religion is seeping into many vocal American churches, this ideology needs to be cast out and rebuked. - Well a certain faction of Americans who call themselves Christian or even Evangelical Christian believe in heresy. Plus when they surveyed a certain bunch of Political Conservative so-called “Evangelicals”, a majority of them knew next to nothing about the faith they claim to believe in, but actually are either atheists or theologically liberal Mainline Protestants LARPing as Evangelicals or theological conservative Mainline Protestants because the Republican Party told them they’re Evangelical or Christian in general because they hold mostly Politically Conservative (even specifically social conservative) views while in reality their Theology is mostly Liberal (unorthodox and heretical) / theologically liberal. Most of them usually just check the “Evangelical” and “Christian” boxes or call themselves that only for cultural reason, because their great-grandparents/several family members were Evangelical Christians or Christian in general at some point, or they’re practitioners of Civil Religion (Western Classics Civil Religion/American Civil Religion) who are co-opting Christianity, Evangelical Christianity at that, to push a political agenda or social movement (especially among Political Conservatives).
Yes! George Washington was Anglican! I must say though, as an Anglican, I don't think Anglican and Episcopalian should be grouped together anymore. Episcopalian used to be great but when it allowed gay marriage and denied Corinthians a lot of people left it. So many people from US history are Anglican yes, we are an underrated denomination even if we're split in two. :/
@@ihiohoh2708 no, we were founded as a nation that is predominantly christian. Madison wrote extensively on how important freedom of religion was and that making a Religion of State was the way of destruction
23:47 okay as someone who is Free Methodist (although tbh zoomer i do agree with a lot of what u teach just not free will/predestination) aka Wesleyan (the free Methodist/Methodist tradition comes out of Wesleyan) i do believe in Santification. We as Christians should work to become more and more like Christ. Now in the view I was raised in that doesn't mean that we carry no sin into heaven as we believe that when we die and go to Heaven we are jusged immediately and what gets us into Heaven is whether or not we accepted Christ for our sins. IE a man/woman can accept Free Methodist salvation if u will on his deathbed and still be saved without having done santification. Santificatuon is for us to become more like Christ but it in itself doesn't save us as we believe in salvation by faith alone which i would argue is the biblical argument
Are further religious reformations possible for Abrahamic faiths or are they going to continue fracturing and specializing to niches of disagreement forever? Without a massive global crisis of faith, I doubt there'll ever be anything even remotely close to the old Councils, let alone any hope of reunification outside geopolitical gains. I don't even have a horse in this race. I'm just unsure how faiths are going to persist in spite of constant splintering.
How do you guys move past early Christian (1st- 4th century)being the same as catholic theology. Reading the apostolic fathers clearly illustrates transubstantiation being what was taught and also subservience to Rome
Also the Church fathers taught real presence, not necessarily transubstantiation. There is a crucial difference. The Church fathers did not explain exactly how Christ was present in the Sacrament. Transubstantiation was developed later.
Funny he states the "anglican stepping stone" I was non-dom, then did 6 months as a catechuman in the Eastern Orthodox Church, step stoned from that TO Anglicanism.
I hope your interest results in you taking the plunge! ☺️ It’s okay to try living like a Christian and see how it changes your life, even if you aren’t initially sure whether you believe.
@@andreassvensson895 I'm not really sure what in particular makes it interesting to me, it just is 😅 And for your second question, a lot of the things in the Bible and in Christianity don't really make sense to me.
@@willwoodfan Please do share! Im honestly do not want to be pushy but I resently came to faith and so im intrested in learning what makes people fall away?
36:10 My first reaction to this is that in minecraft this is the wrong thing to do lol I guess I kinda just don't know what conservative Anglicanism is actually like because the only time I visited an Anglican church, the pastor preached something borderline heretical (denying the importance of the physical resurrection). However it was also the first time I took communion with wine instead of grape juice so I did appreciate that.
1.) You are both literally knocking on the Peter’s door - so Holy Spirit, soften these good hearts and touch these beautiful minds - we need men like each of you - more importantly: Christ desires it and commands you to end the tantrum and come home, immediately. 2.) Mr. Anglican - Thank you for showing your sincere study of Catholicism- how rare it is to see a Protestant mention the Dogma of Non-Possibility of Disordered or Excessive Devotion to Saints (kidding - you know fallacies: run them and drop that shtick, obviously.) 3.) Marian Dogmas and pre-dogmatic definition - how and when and why does the Church define things? Does doctrine develop (Marian dogmas are not a development in the classical sense). you would acknowledge that Catholics teach non-Catholics can be saved (by Christ), so presumably you could rephrase the way you disfigure our Lord’s Bride’s infallible teaching regarding his perpetually virgin and sinless assumed Mother? Let’s speak rather of ordinary means of salvation, the relevance of the substance of faith to Christianity (protestants agree it matters too just not about how much or about what said substance is). Be of one Mind - obey the teachings of the Church 4.) Your epistemology exists so you’re not a sola Scriptura guy - don’t use as a crutch that which a fat German heretic mangled into a spear - think critically rather about how good Scripture is and how God decided to give it to the world (you are trapped in blue print thinking). 5.) This goes to you Anglican (when did they come to British Isles?! What matters is their hearts were in right place😐) but to anyone watching this and/or reading my comment - remember this - you are not the Supreme Pontiff, nor a Catholic Bishop (if you are - God bless you Holy Father or your Eminences and Graces - I stand filially before you earnest for correction) - God does not require - nor does He permit - you to decide ANY of the issues in this video for yourself or others. You have the freedom to trust that Christ who is Truth has placed over you and invites you into an Ark free from error until he returns.
Some history George Washington Anglican/Episcopalian John Adams Congregationalist Protestant later Unitarian Christian Elias Boudinot devout Presbyterian Philip Ludwell III Eastern Orthodox and a lot more!
Not all of these people who claim they’re Christian or who are Conservatives in the Political Sense are actually Evangelical Christian or even Christian in general, a good chunk of these people only say they’re Christian because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and ancestors were Christian. There are many people who are only Culturally Christian, Nominally Christian, or Diest who claim to be Christin for social or cultural reasons but in actuality are Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Unitarian Universalist, Theologically Liberal (Liberal Christianity) and New Age Mystics, etc. Also, remember that the United States was NOT founded as a Christian nation, a good chunk of the Founding Fathers were Culturally Christian, Deist, theologically liberal, or sacrilegious heretics that syncretized Western Classical thought, American exceptionalism, extremist forms of nationalism and even in some cases White supremacy with Christianity creating a false religion called “American Civil Religion” by sociologists that on the surface looks like Christianity but in reality is very shallow and just co-opts Judaeo-Christian (Christian and Jewish) terminology for state propaganda. Most of these people described have turned America or their respective countries into a deity instead of focusing on Jesus, some people are turning America and Patriotism into an idol syncretizing it with Christianity. The evils and idolatry of American Civil Religion and Western Classics Civil Religion is seeping into many vocal American churches, this ideology needs to be cast out and rebuked. - Well a certain faction of Americans who call themselves Christian or even Evangelical Christian believe in heresy. Plus when they surveyed a certain bunch of Political Conservative so-called “Evangelicals”, a majority of them knew next to nothing about the faith they claim to believe in, but actually are either atheists or theologically liberal Mainline Protestants LARPing as Evangelicals or theological conservative Mainline Protestants because the Republican Party told them they’re Evangelical or Christian in general because they hold mostly Politically Conservative (even specifically social conservative) views while in reality their Theology is mostly Liberal (unorthodox and heretical) / theologically liberal. Most of them usually just check the “Evangelical” and “Christian” boxes or call themselves that only for cultural reason, because their great-grandparents/several family members were Evangelical Christians or Christian in general at some point, or they’re practitioners of Civil Religion (Western Classics Civil Religion/American Civil Religion) who are co-opting Christianity, Evangelical Christianity at that, to push a political agenda or social movement (especially among Political Conservatives).
As an Anglican American, I can confirm that if George Washington saw the current state of the Episcopal church today than he would be only Anglican! Episcopal used to be great and we both were the same but when Episcopalians allowed gay marriage a lot of people left and now it isn't as good as it used to be!
It's so weird to see an American call themselves Anglican. I mean, they can because it's a set of beliefs, but I was sure it was totally obscure outside of the UK!
I'm American and Anglican! There are many Anglicans here in the United States! :D Go to the mid Atlantic region, you'll find tons of us there! :D There are multiple Anglican groups here. Episcopalian is also a thing here, it's always grouped in with Anglican but in reality it's Anglican if it was 1,000x more liberal.
I'd say Anglicans have specific views within the 39 Articles and Book of Homilies. For instance, the spiritual presence of Christ in Holy Communion is clear.
"The Body of Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after an heavenly and spiritual manner. And the mean whereby the Body of Christ is received and eaten in the Supper, is Faith. The Sacrament of the Lord's Supper was not by Christ's ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped."
@@sameash3153 They are also binding in my diocese in America. The Anglican view is clear, unless we jettison the formularies and open up a theological free for all (which seems to have occurred).
not clear enough to the point where plenty of Anglican divines have found that a more Lutheran view of communion can also fit within the articles, even more so in the liturgy of communion of the BCP which is arguably the more binding formulary. The articles allow for consubstantiation at the highest, and receptionism at the lowest. Memorialist/symbolic view is just unanglican
@@Gwoog55 Is it the Lutheran view that holy communion is "given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after a heavenly and spiritual manner" by faith and that the wicked do not partake of Christ. I'm well aware that there are sophists who can argue anything from the articles (look at John Henry Newman), but the articles are the actual Anglican views, and the BCP conforms to them (they aren't in conflict).
@@SlapShotTakes My pvp is noob-tier, but that's okay because we Catholics have *checks history notes* a 16-year-old peasant girl with angelic visions and a sword
No one at all should be excluded from coming to a church as much as they want. As long as you aren't creating any problems within the church, you are welcome. This is Biblical. Now actually becoming a member of the church is different, and for that you should be held to a higher standard.
@@ihiohoh2708 I feel like, and I'm not at all dogmatic on this and probably could be convinced otherwise, if you confirm the Nicene creed and the fundamentals of the faith, and show fruit in your life, I feel like that's enough to be accepted into any church. For instance, my parents, who hold a Zwinglian view of the sacraments, should be able to join any church. They're good solid christian people, even if misguided on several important issues
My biggest problem with Anglicanism, which isn't addressed in this video, is the simple and undeniable fact of having a secular prince as head of the religion. That's the biggest distinctive, far bigger than any particular doctrine, and I have a real problem with that. The King of England isn't a man of the Church, and there have been times in the CoE's history where the king wasn't even an Anglican. It's too wrapped up in secular politics, far more so than the other reformations (which did mix church and state, albeit in ways I find more palatable). It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And that's not even getting into the frankly embarrassing history of how that began.
Even in England, even at the height of royal power over the church, that wasn't really true. The king declared himself to have full authority as to the secular affairs of the church(property, intersection of canon law and civil law) as well as the appointment of bishops for a while(given their secular power this was seen as under the King's preview). The spiritual authority was Jesus/the bishops, and secular authority has no power outside of England itself
@@evan12697 Methodists come from Anglicans so honestly if I married a Catholic I still think it's possible to have Methodist children but what will probably happen is I would have Anglican children who have Methodist theology but prefer Anglican churches
@@stevn744 I've been to my grandparents' Methodist Church plenty of times and they're wonderful people, obviously the Spirit is strong in their congregation, but I just don't vibe with the low church/evangelical/pass-the-mic/kumbayah stuff they do. Maybe that's them, maybe that's more widespread, I don't know.
@@evan12697 yeah though we aren't that low church is depends on the Methodist Church because there are more high church Methodist the denomination itself is mid church so it has that mixture of low and high church though I'm curious how you grew up if mom was Methodist and Dad was Catholic
@@stevn744 they both started going to an episcopal church in the most literal via media way lol. Mom's side didn't care bc church is church as long as there's no Pope, Dad's side flipped shit and took years to get over it lmao
1Peter 2 teaches that all genuine born again believers are The Royal Priesthood No need of any religious order. Rome takes the head place at the head table! The very opposite to what JESUS taught! Luke 14 v 7
There is no one “correct denomination” in my opinion, orthodox and Catholics always fight over who the true church is but as long as you join a non heretical church it’s okay
@@UninformedThinker Neither the Orthodox or the Catholic church is a denomination. There is only one church one teaching Christ established. The word “Catholic” is meant to be an adjective, not a noun. We are not a denomination which goes by the name “Catholic,” but are members of the Church of Christ who have a mission to bring the “fullness” of God’s plan to “all” people.
We have two Calvinist denominations one which likes having bishops and one doesn't. Which one you wanna convert too is basically based on do you like bishops or not. Also do you like depictions of Jesus or not. If you hate art depicting Jesus and you hate bishops you are a Presbyterian, also known as church of Scotland. If you love bishops and love depicting Jesus you are Episcopalian. Also known as Anglican.
@@dan_m7774 well Jesus was unclear if his apostles held bishopric or Presbyteric structure, Jesus was vague and his apostles were vague on apostolic succession. The Bishop Presbyter was blurred originally. And Jesus said absolutely nothing on stain glass depictions of his face.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". :)
@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool @refrigeratorinthewinter138 matka Boska bo matka Jezusa czyli Boga czyli Maryja I O Pani nasza, orędowniczko nasza, pocieszycielko nasza, pośredniczko nasza, z Synem swoim nas pojednaj, Synowi swojemu nas polecaj, swojemu Synowi nas oddawaj, o panno chwalebna i błogosławiona Nic heretyckiego po czym idziesz odebrać ciało Chrystusa w Eucharystii
@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool czysta prośba o wstawiennictwo Matki Boskiej Gdyż jesteśmy zbyt mali i nieśmiali grzeszni by wprost zwracać sie o to do Jezusa Chrystusa Boga jedynego
I really love Mainline protestants who 1. Don't Fast. 2. Don't using affirmative prayers. 3. Don't believe we are responsible for what we manifest. 4. Wonder why mainline protestants have less and less influence on our nihilistic culture of young people and that our "civic aka: mainline protestant institutions need massive regeneration. Joel Ostend/Norman Vince Peele both are the closest and most accurate preachers of the Gospel.
@@sameash3153 than why the fuck be Anglican this is basically how Anglicanism started is as simply Catholic Calvinist! Anglicanism's existence is literally Catholicism if John Calvin was pope! Westminster confession (partially recognized) the 39 articles! The King Henry VIII literally gave John Calvin's writings the go ahead circulation in England!
Thanks so much for having me on the channel! This was a great discussion
Thanks for coming for a video, It was amazing to watch both of your perspectives!
I enjoyed this video thanks for coming on
Yo, 777 subs, nice.
Thank you Reformed Zoomer for bringing a focus to the Anglican tradition, and for introducing us to another Christian gen z channel.
Thanks! Although why does everything think my name is "Reformed" Zoomer
@@redeemedzoomer6053does everything think?
You're all cringe lords
I'm happy that so many people are becoming Christian! Welcome to Christianity! ✝❤
I'm Anglican and glad that our wonderful church is still growing! Young Anglican is spot on, I'm glad he is now one of us!
Fellow Anglican here. I also think the big tent approach of Anglicanism is the best. We are unified on the essentials, however allow room for disagreement on secondary issues. I find this approach is the best way towards real unity and mere catholicity.
Using sola scriptura how could you identify primary and secondary issues? Given the Bible makes no distinction between these supposed primary and secondary issues, it seems to be a tradition of man to add these distinctions.
@@Justin-yn5pyWe’re not 100% sola scriptura on the Methodist side but I think Jesus has a lot to say when discussing with the disciples and Pharisees about what’s key and what’s not. That’s just off the top of my head.
I would call women's ordination an essential issue. St. Paul is clear that it is not allowed. Could an invalid priest NOT lead one astray?
I'm an Anglican, I agree! :D
For me at least, the only branch of Anglican that I don't agree with is the Episcopalians with their gay marriage that they for some reason allow, but yeah other than that I agree! I mean, I get the logic but Corinthians is kinda thing, y'know.
@@charless7653 In my church, girls can be priests. I think the definition of priest and pastor was changed or at least an equivalent was made. Officially they all are rectors here, but we call them priests because force of habit. Lol
It was actually Young Anglican who convinced me to become an Anglican myself. I wanted a denomination that combined the Traditionalism of Catholicism with the Biblical Sola Scriptura of Protestantism while leaving the Communion table open to all believers of any denomination. Anglicanism fit that description and the ACNA keeps the conservative beliefs as opposed to the liberal Episcopalians.
Is it okay to be a Baptist?
@@jakedubin8219you're ultimately saved by faith, it doesn't matter whether you think you've been saved or not.
Sola Scriptura is not scripture, it is opinion. That is why there is no actual reality of scripture being the final authority, and zero ability to determine or create a denomination truly biblical. They are a pastor opinion Church
"I wanted a denomination..." ok.
@@therighteousgoat5165 sounds like a man designed religion you seek. well it was created just to satisfy a man's desire to remarry ,then butcher his desire. Sounds like a horrible reason to change
As a former PCA Presbyterian who is now a “reformed” Baptist, I really loved this talk!
PCA Presbyterian is just Reformed Baptist with extra steps, so did you REALLY change?
Hahaha you’re not wrong. I like how you call them “crypto baptists”, basically the same idea behind most doctrine except baptism. In the PCA they would be paedobaptists and that would be to represent the new sign of the covenant for children of believing parents and I would now fall into the category of credobaptist. Other than that, we agree on just about everything else!
@@redeemedzoomer6053 lol good one
PCA is Paedobaptist, but doesn't have a fully Presbyterian view of baptism a lot of the time, because they often say baptism is just a sign that doesn't save
@@redeemedzoomer6053so does faith alone save or does baptism save?
Hello redeemed i just want to say thank you for making videos. Even though I feel like Christ has called me to be Catholic I truly appreciate your videos and dedication to Christ. May God bless you. Deus Vult!
God calls us all to be Catholics ❤️
@@MrMustang13 Christs one Holy and Apostolic Church ✝️ I thank god everyday for calling me home.
Come come!
I so enjoyed this discussion and video RZ. You have such great content to share. God's best to you both!
I was originally Anglican, became sort of Athiest out of ignorance and secular propaganda, and now have decided to become a Roman Catholic... Praise Jesus
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
Wow, literally the reverse of my path. Was born catholic, left church because "if God why hunger in poor places", found the true faith in anglicanism
thank Heavens! Any brand of Christianity is better than being an atheist!
God bless you bro!
GOD BLESS YALL 💕!.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
Good to see you guys putting your Ashkenazi IQs to service for good.
It’s so nice to see civility between denominations.
@@a2zz-gk197not really I'm Pentecostal I go to a Catholic school nobody hates each other no one in my church hates Catholic or Orthodox I don't know where you are but in my church which I think is Pentecostal we believe everyone is still a Christian no matter the denomination
@@a2zz-gk197 also is the h word heresy cause from my personal beliefs I thought why do Catholics say hail Mary I thought it was kind of weird but I see it's less of worshiping and treating her as god and more like saying she I holy and should be respected
I follow both of you on X. Glad to find this channel. I left the UMC last year and became Anglican. I am so comfortable in this denomination.
Yooooo I'm anglican! I'll have to check out his channel. Love your content, RZ!
Same! I don't know how I never heard of Young Anglican until now!
As a millennial, I find you guys amazing. You’re very smart and help me with my faith. Zoomer what books do you recommend to understand reformed theology?
The mystical presence by John Williamson Nevin is the best theology book I’ve read
@@redeemedzoomer6053 plz do a video on the Copts did you know about the fact they have a Pope?
@@Interns-Eternal-EmpireI think every Orthodox patriarch is independent from each other. The Coptic Pope is just the patriarch of the Egyptian church, he is not the boss of other patriarchs like the Pope in Rome pretends to be.
I recently became Anglican. Great video
Its refreshing to see young people smarter than me, im 28 and here is proof of hope for the generations after mine im also a huge fan of a debater named saanvi you all give hope to the future of mankind. Also an uforunate fact of following christ is we get labeled as all kinds of different phobias. Which is fine labeling an opponent rather than a good faith debate is common in todays kind of politics and debate.
I think all the nonsense they teach in school, and the wickedness of modern teachers are turning kids (particularly boys) more conservative. We're already starting to see the tides turn.
Agreed! Redeemed Zoomer and Young Anglican are a beacon of hope! They are proof that Christianity will stay alive and strong! Not many Gen Zers are Christian, I wish more Gen Zers were Christian.
So cool that both of you got saved despite your Jewish backgrounds, which often make it very challenging to become Christian!
“Anglican” the best title I’ve ever seen.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
IK I got the same one then he changed it.
Great conversation guys. It was helpful in understanding the Anglican position. As a Reformed (Classical) Arminian I sympathize with both parties. We are from the Reformed Tradition in that we hold the 5 Solas and the Reformed view of the Fall of Adam, Original Sin, and Total Depravity, Monergism, and are close on Perseverance of the Saints. But we differ from Calvinists in our view on the Scope of the Atonement, Election, and the nature and scope of Grace. We believe that Christ died for all, that God's grace draws all men to himself and that grace is resistible. By Grace, thru faith, in Christ alone. All glory to God. Love and Prayers from your friendly neighborhood Reformed Arminian brother 😎
I would love to see you discuss Molinism more why you disagree with it etc
I’m a Methodist, but watching these guys beef over Theology is the most Reformed thing I’ve ever seen 💀
anglicans are kinda goofy. due to its origins not the people themselves
@@carsonbaird3904High Church Anglicanism or Anglo-Catholicism has the most consistent position out of any reformed denominations out there.
@@a.ihistory5879 some of them pretend to not be Calvinists half the time 😂
Interesting discussion on the Lord's Supper/Eucharist. As someone who was in the Anglican (CofE) church for over a decade, I have seen various attitudes to the bread and wine, from a high view which includes veneration of the Sacrament, to sliced bread torn in bits before the service and the leftovers thrown out. The conservative churches which stand firm on biblical truths (complementarian, biblical marriage etc) were the most likely to have the low view of the Lord's Supper. Many C of E churches don't have weekly communion, or certainly not as part of the Sunday service. But that, frankly, is the least of the C of E's problems.
Its not every day you see someone who converted *to* Anglicanism.
Most go from Anglican to Atheist and then to a more charismatic version of Christianity.
I'm so thankful to God for giving the Via Media a voice that can reach to his generation!
That's not my experience. The vast majority of Anglicans are converts(outside of the UK)
Continually encouraged by Zoomer bringing things together, while precisely maintaining boundaries. It's a glorious time to be a Christian.
Just found Young Anglican, and been enjoying him, Jonah Saller, Sean Luke, Steven Macias, and Other Paul for more Anglican resources on YT
28:00 Cranmer and Elizabeth in modifying the 39 articles as a reconciling effort
34:36 on arguments against monergism
36:26 - on not mixing and separation according to holiness
38:15 sola gratia and sola fidei as potentially compromised by Calvinist soteriology- great convo
When Catholic interview with Trent Horn or Bishop Robert Barron?
Planning to talk with Trent Horn soon
@@redeemedzoomer6053My husband and I are unbelievably psyched. You and Trent are our favorite UA-camrs. We’re Catholic, but we love your content style. You’ve taught us a lot about the Bible and mere Christianity. I pray for you most days. I think you’re super smart and thoughtful, and, semi-selfishly, I’d love to have you in my denomination lol.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 So, when? 😯
Good talk. I like to think of the discussion as in what frame of thought is God the most powerful? And which frame of thought requires Jesus the most?
I love the evangelizing work you're doing for mainline protestants.
I’n watching this interview now 5-10- 24…I appreciate that like me as a former Jehovah Witness cult member, I am now a “redeemed Boomer” lay Calvinist !
In terms of credentials you two are more theologically astute than most evangelical lay church goers from historical to contemporary times !
I think we are like those in Berea:
Acts 17:11 (ESV)
[11] Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
I am presently worshiping (as a nonmember) at a local Lutheran LCMS church in S. California with a 4th gen Lutheran as the Pastor, who allows our soteriology deferences but allows me to partake in communion because he thinks we are saved by grace as the fundamental born again doctrine…although he believes you can possibly loose your salvation- which I don’t as Jesus said in John’s gospel…
John 6:37-39 (ESV)
[37] All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. [38] For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. [39] And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
Repent and trust in Jesus you will be saved I love yall and God bless
I think you should try a talk with a gen z catholic at one point.
He responded to my comment to say that he’s going to be talking to Trent Horn soon 🎉 He’s not Gen-Z, but he’s an incredible Catholic apologist.
Not sure if this is helpful but 'Young Anglican' sounds like a rapper name.
Baptism used to be a more important issue as well because it was how state churches taxed people.
Interesting video for a Calvinist who feels drawn to Anglicanism.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
Can you not post this everywhere?
It's not heretical.
invokation of the saints has been a thing since like the early church lol
@@brittoncain5090 Unless this _isn't_ about Mary, mother of God, it is extremely heretical. The first part is passable, but the second part is sheer madness. "In my hands I place my eternal salvation" UM... WHAT? If Mary was alive as you were saying such things, she would rebuke you on the spot. No person has the ability to grant eternal salvation, only Christ does that; nobody else can stand before the Father and say that your sins do not count against you but Christ. "Because thou art more powerful than all hell together" no human is more powerful than hell, only God is. Mary was a human, born of sin like the rest of us, but it was through her obedient faith that she birthed Christ, and she was saved by Grace through Faith in Christ like the rest of us. She is exemplary for the same reason the Apostles and Saints are exemplary, she dedicated her life to Christ, and never relented her faith, bore the pain and sorrow of watching Him die on the Cross, and stayed true to God's plan for her life.
Both of you should speak with River, host of New Kingdom Media
I’d love to at some point
just got to the young angie's comment about "allegedly Christians" and I gotta say, after watching a dozen or so zoomer vids and now seeing the young angie say that, there doesn't seem to be a lot of self-awareness between the two of them. very glad to see an interest in the things of God among the youth nonetheless, Lord willing it will continue with these.
doppelganger?
I want both of you on my show for an interview!
Regarding the different explanations for Purgatory, the councils and catechism only define that you must believe that there is a purification for some of people who died in a state of grace, and that these people benefit from the prayers of the church. However, the traditional view of the latin chur h was to treat Purgatory as a place with real and material fire, wheter a different abode of Hades like Hell, Bksom of Abraham and Limbo of Infants (St. Thomas Aquinas and Roman Catechism), or as a third place, which would be more in line with Divine Comedy and the view that stuck in the people's mind, which he might have encountered some traditional catholics who were strict on holding this view. It was definedin this way because there were disputes regarding this doctrine, so it was needed to establish and clarify the church position, but they didn' not exclude those who held a different view on the doctrine, but still affirmed the basic points of it.
It is somewhat similar with predestination, where tou have different schools with different views like Thomism, Molinism and Congruism, but there are certain points that every school have to affirm in order to not fall into heresy.
*insert divorce joke here*
😅😅
Good comment
Lol
"Can't be a 'ertic if I 'ave me own church"
@@carsonbaird3904 of course
In my opinion the United States is a secular Christian nation with freedom of religion
the 1st President and father of our country George Washington was a Anglican/Episcopalian
We were founded as a Christian nation. At this time, I don't think we are. We need to change what the weak men before us allowed to happen. God bless
Not all of these people who claim they’re Christian or who are Conservatives in the Political Sense are actually Evangelical Christian or even Christian in general, a good chunk of these people only say they’re Christian because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and ancestors were Christian. There are many people who are only Culturally Christian, Nominally Christian, or Diest who claim to be Christin for social or cultural reasons but in actuality are Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Unitarian Universalist, Theologically Liberal (Liberal Christianity) and New Age Mystics, etc. Also, remember that the United States was NOT founded as a Christian nation, a good chunk of the Founding Fathers were Culturally Christian, Deist, theologically liberal, or sacrilegious heretics that syncretized Western Classical thought, American exceptionalism, extremist forms of nationalism and even in some cases White supremacy with Christianity creating a false religion called “American Civil Religion” by sociologists that on the surface looks like Christianity but in reality is very shallow and just co-opts Judaeo-Christian (Christian and Jewish) terminology for state propaganda. Most of these people described have turned America or their respective countries into a deity instead of focusing on Jesus, some people are turning America and Patriotism into an idol syncretizing it with Christianity. The evils and idolatry of American Civil Religion and Western Classics Civil Religion is seeping into many vocal American churches, this ideology needs to be cast out and rebuked.
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Well a certain faction of Americans who call themselves Christian or even Evangelical Christian believe in heresy. Plus when they surveyed a certain bunch of Political Conservative so-called “Evangelicals”, a majority of them knew next to nothing about the faith they claim to believe in, but actually are either atheists or theologically liberal Mainline Protestants LARPing as Evangelicals or theological conservative Mainline Protestants because the Republican Party told them they’re Evangelical or Christian in general because they hold mostly Politically Conservative (even specifically social conservative) views while in reality their Theology is mostly Liberal (unorthodox and heretical) / theologically liberal. Most of them usually just check the “Evangelical” and “Christian” boxes or call themselves that only for cultural reason, because their great-grandparents/several family members were Evangelical Christians or Christian in general at some point, or they’re practitioners of Civil Religion (Western Classics Civil Religion/American Civil Religion) who are co-opting Christianity, Evangelical Christianity at that, to push a political agenda or social movement (especially among Political Conservatives).
Yes! George Washington was Anglican! I must say though, as an Anglican, I don't think Anglican and Episcopalian should be grouped together anymore. Episcopalian used to be great but when it allowed gay marriage and denied Corinthians a lot of people left it. So many people from US history are Anglican yes, we are an underrated denomination even if we're split in two. :/
@@keagaming9837 it’s just the times we live in. Happening to all denominations these days.
@@ihiohoh2708 no, we were founded as a nation that is predominantly christian. Madison wrote extensively on how important freedom of religion was and that making a Religion of State was the way of destruction
23:47 okay as someone who is Free Methodist (although tbh zoomer i do agree with a lot of what u teach just not free will/predestination) aka Wesleyan (the free Methodist/Methodist tradition comes out of Wesleyan) i do believe in Santification. We as Christians should work to become more and more like Christ. Now in the view I was raised in that doesn't mean that we carry no sin into heaven as we believe that when we die and go to Heaven we are jusged immediately and what gets us into Heaven is whether or not we accepted Christ for our sins. IE a man/woman can accept Free Methodist salvation if u will on his deathbed and still be saved without having done santification. Santificatuon is for us to become more like Christ but it in itself doesn't save us as we believe in salvation by faith alone which i would argue is the biblical argument
I really wish you'd get Jeff from Apologia Studios on here. I'd love to see how the conversation would go.
You should talk with a catholic!
Comment above yours says hes gonna talk to Trent Horn
Are further religious reformations possible for Abrahamic faiths or are they going to continue fracturing and specializing to niches of disagreement forever? Without a massive global crisis of faith, I doubt there'll ever be anything even remotely close to the old Councils, let alone any hope of reunification outside geopolitical gains.
I don't even have a horse in this race. I'm just unsure how faiths are going to persist in spite of constant splintering.
Christians ALL believe Jesus is God, the beauty of Christianity is the diversity
How do you guys move past early Christian (1st- 4th century)being the same as catholic theology. Reading the apostolic fathers clearly illustrates transubstantiation being what was taught and also subservience to Rome
Because the Bible is above the word of man. Remember, even Peter denied Jesus thrice.
Also the Church fathers taught real presence, not necessarily transubstantiation. There is a crucial difference. The Church fathers did not explain exactly how Christ was present in the Sacrament. Transubstantiation was developed later.
It clearly taught real presence, which Anglicans hold too. Transubstantiation is a term for an explanation of mechanics that arose in the middle ages.
Funny he states the "anglican stepping stone" I was non-dom, then did 6 months as a catechuman in the Eastern Orthodox Church, step stoned from that TO Anglicanism.
Now bring a Catholic
Trent Horn, ideally.
Update: He says he IS going to be talking to Trent Horn! 🎉
I watched this to help me decide to be Presbyterian or Anglican but I'm still struggling. Can I be both at the same time?
Isaiah 53 got me too 🤣👍🙏✝️⛪️💜☦️
I'm agnostic, and I loved watching this. i find Christianity to be really interesting, even if I'm not a member of the religion myself.
Hi, just curious, what makes christianity intresting and what stops you from coming to faith?
I hope your interest results in you taking the plunge! ☺️ It’s okay to try living like a Christian and see how it changes your life, even if you aren’t initially sure whether you believe.
@@andreassvensson895 I'm not really sure what in particular makes it interesting to me, it just is 😅 And for your second question, a lot of the things in the Bible and in Christianity don't really make sense to me.
@@MarianMetanoia I've already tried to be a Christian, but it just didn't feel right for me.
@@willwoodfan Please do share! Im honestly do not want to be pushy but I resently came to faith and so im intrested in learning what makes people fall away?
The only anglican church in My town has a female priest and liberal
same here and its a gross 90s building.
Did you change the title?
what was it before?
The Anglican guy has done a thorough job of absorbing the worst of Anglican antiCatholic bigotry.
Good job on the part of the reformed Zoomer for gently calling the Anglican on his cheap shots and poor arguments.
Cool vid, also FACE REVEALLLLL
36:10 My first reaction to this is that in minecraft this is the wrong thing to do lol
I guess I kinda just don't know what conservative Anglicanism is actually like because the only time I visited an Anglican church, the pastor preached something borderline heretical (denying the importance of the physical resurrection). However it was also the first time I took communion with wine instead of grape juice so I did appreciate that.
The Authorized Version is the Crown Jewel of the Church of England and I find no Anglican Church that uses it primarily.
Prayer book Anglican parishes and dioceses is Canada typically use the AV.
1.) You are both literally knocking on the Peter’s door - so Holy Spirit, soften these good hearts and touch these beautiful minds - we need men like each of you - more importantly: Christ desires it and commands you to end the tantrum and come home, immediately.
2.) Mr. Anglican - Thank you for showing your sincere study of Catholicism- how rare it is to see a Protestant mention the Dogma of Non-Possibility of Disordered or Excessive Devotion to Saints (kidding - you know fallacies: run them and drop that shtick, obviously.)
3.) Marian Dogmas and pre-dogmatic definition - how and when and why does the Church define things? Does doctrine develop (Marian dogmas are not a development in the classical sense). you would acknowledge that Catholics teach non-Catholics can be saved (by Christ), so presumably you could rephrase the way you disfigure our Lord’s Bride’s infallible teaching regarding his perpetually virgin and sinless assumed Mother? Let’s speak rather of ordinary means of salvation, the relevance of the substance of faith to Christianity (protestants agree it matters too just not about how much or about what said substance is). Be of one Mind - obey the teachings of the Church
4.) Your epistemology exists so you’re not a sola Scriptura guy - don’t use as a crutch that which a fat German heretic mangled into a spear - think critically rather about how good Scripture is and how God decided to give it to the world (you are trapped in blue print thinking).
5.) This goes to you Anglican (when did they come to British Isles?! What matters is their hearts were in right place😐) but to anyone watching this and/or reading my comment - remember this - you are not the Supreme Pontiff, nor a Catholic Bishop (if you are - God bless you Holy Father or your Eminences and Graces - I stand filially before you earnest for correction) - God does not require - nor does He permit - you to decide ANY of the issues in this video for yourself or others. You have the freedom to trust that Christ who is Truth has placed over you and invites you into an Ark free from error until he returns.
Some history
George Washington Anglican/Episcopalian
John Adams Congregationalist Protestant later Unitarian Christian
Elias Boudinot devout Presbyterian
Philip Ludwell III Eastern Orthodox
and a lot more!
Not all of these people who claim they’re Christian or who are Conservatives in the Political Sense are actually Evangelical Christian or even Christian in general, a good chunk of these people only say they’re Christian because their parents, grandparents, great grandparents, and ancestors were Christian. There are many people who are only Culturally Christian, Nominally Christian, or Diest who claim to be Christin for social or cultural reasons but in actuality are Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Unitarian Universalist, Theologically Liberal (Liberal Christianity) and New Age Mystics, etc. Also, remember that the United States was NOT founded as a Christian nation, a good chunk of the Founding Fathers were Culturally Christian, Deist, theologically liberal, or sacrilegious heretics that syncretized Western Classical thought, American exceptionalism, extremist forms of nationalism and even in some cases White supremacy with Christianity creating a false religion called “American Civil Religion” by sociologists that on the surface looks like Christianity but in reality is very shallow and just co-opts Judaeo-Christian (Christian and Jewish) terminology for state propaganda. Most of these people described have turned America or their respective countries into a deity instead of focusing on Jesus, some people are turning America and Patriotism into an idol syncretizing it with Christianity. The evils and idolatry of American Civil Religion and Western Classics Civil Religion is seeping into many vocal American churches, this ideology needs to be cast out and rebuked.
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Well a certain faction of Americans who call themselves Christian or even Evangelical Christian believe in heresy. Plus when they surveyed a certain bunch of Political Conservative so-called “Evangelicals”, a majority of them knew next to nothing about the faith they claim to believe in, but actually are either atheists or theologically liberal Mainline Protestants LARPing as Evangelicals or theological conservative Mainline Protestants because the Republican Party told them they’re Evangelical or Christian in general because they hold mostly Politically Conservative (even specifically social conservative) views while in reality their Theology is mostly Liberal (unorthodox and heretical) / theologically liberal. Most of them usually just check the “Evangelical” and “Christian” boxes or call themselves that only for cultural reason, because their great-grandparents/several family members were Evangelical Christians or Christian in general at some point, or they’re practitioners of Civil Religion (Western Classics Civil Religion/American Civil Religion) who are co-opting Christianity, Evangelical Christianity at that, to push a political agenda or social movement (especially among Political Conservatives).
As an Anglican American, I can confirm that if George Washington saw the current state of the Episcopal church today than he would be only Anglican! Episcopal used to be great and we both were the same but when Episcopalians allowed gay marriage a lot of people left and now it isn't as good as it used to be!
It's so weird to see an American call themselves Anglican. I mean, they can because it's a set of beliefs, but I was sure it was totally obscure outside of the UK!
I'm American and Anglican! There are many Anglicans here in the United States! :D Go to the mid Atlantic region, you'll find tons of us there! :D
There are multiple Anglican groups here. Episcopalian is also a thing here, it's always grouped in with Anglican but in reality it's Anglican if it was 1,000x more liberal.
Actually the vast majority of Anglicans live outside the UK . The country with the largest Anglican population is Nigeria in fact
I'd say Anglicans have specific views within the 39 Articles and Book of Homilies. For instance, the spiritual presence of Christ in Holy Communion is clear.
"The Body of Christ is given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after an heavenly and spiritual manner. And the
mean whereby the Body of Christ is received and eaten in the Supper, is Faith.
The Sacrament of the Lord's Supper was not by Christ's ordinance reserved, carried about, lifted up, or worshipped."
Those are only binding in the Church of England, and even there they are loosely applied. Anglo-Catholics discard all of the anti-papist articles.
@@sameash3153 They are also binding in my diocese in America. The Anglican view is clear, unless we jettison the formularies and open up a theological free for all (which seems to have occurred).
not clear enough to the point where plenty of Anglican divines have found that a more Lutheran view of communion can also fit within the articles, even more so in the liturgy of communion of the BCP which is arguably the more binding formulary. The articles allow for consubstantiation at the highest, and receptionism at the lowest. Memorialist/symbolic view is just unanglican
@@Gwoog55 Is it the Lutheran view that holy communion is "given, taken, and eaten, in the Supper, only after a heavenly and spiritual manner" by faith and that the wicked do not partake of Christ. I'm well aware that there are sophists who can argue anything from the articles (look at John Henry Newman), but the articles are the actual Anglican views, and the BCP conforms to them (they aren't in conflict).
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Catholicism is superior in that it has no denominations.
is your minecraft server compatible with bedrock?
They getting rapper names now? I ain’t never heard of this 😂
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I was expecting pvp in minecraft :(
We need some kind of competitive Minecraft event to find the true church
@@johnhalberg6536 As an Episcopal with no life, full netherite and godly skill with crystals, EZ
@@SlapShotTakes My pvp is noob-tier, but that's okay because we Catholics have *checks history notes* a 16-year-old peasant girl with angelic visions and a sword
Catholic next
He’s gonna be talking to Trent Horn soon!
@@MarianMetanoia less gooo
Can you make video about Black Hebrew Israelites cult. Rebirth of the Natiton, Hebrew nation building...
If you are a Christian and hold to the fundamentals of the faith, you shouldn't be excluded from any church.
No one at all should be excluded from coming to a church as much as they want. As long as you aren't creating any problems within the church, you are welcome. This is Biblical. Now actually becoming a member of the church is different, and for that you should be held to a higher standard.
@@ihiohoh2708 I feel like, and I'm not at all dogmatic on this and probably could be convinced otherwise, if you confirm the Nicene creed and the fundamentals of the faith, and show fruit in your life, I feel like that's enough to be accepted into any church. For instance, my parents, who hold a Zwinglian view of the sacraments, should be able to join any church. They're good solid christian people, even if misguided on several important issues
Bookmark 12:17
Revelation 3-9ers are a busy bunch
I commend you both for pursuing the faith. Keep studying until you find your home in the Catholic Church founded on Christ himself.
I have to say that there are a lot of churches on the map that are not "based." Some perform gay marriages.
Same dogs, different collsrs
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36:30 do Anglicans believe that God “created” evil or was that a slip of the tongue?
slip of the tongue probably
God didn't create evil but he ordained that the devil makes it happen.
We're all part of his grandslam
How about we all just praise Jesus our Lord and Savior?
how about we actually read scripture and not just say 'haha Jesus gud' and take a blind shot in the dark at eternal salvation?
You must be a Baptist.@@SlapShotTakes
My biggest problem with Anglicanism, which isn't addressed in this video, is the simple and undeniable fact of having a secular prince as head of the religion. That's the biggest distinctive, far bigger than any particular doctrine, and I have a real problem with that. The King of England isn't a man of the Church, and there have been times in the CoE's history where the king wasn't even an Anglican. It's too wrapped up in secular politics, far more so than the other reformations (which did mix church and state, albeit in ways I find more palatable). It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And that's not even getting into the frankly embarrassing history of how that began.
Even in England, even at the height of royal power over the church, that wasn't really true. The king declared himself to have full authority as to the secular affairs of the church(property, intersection of canon law and civil law) as well as the appointment of bishops for a while(given their secular power this was seen as under the King's preview). The spiritual authority was Jesus/the bishops, and secular authority has no power outside of England itself
How come scripture being the final authority, you can not come to a final decision what scripture says?
Hi i know jewish worship songs like Abeinu Aleichem some thing like this
My step-father is converting from being a baptist to eastern orthodox.
Pretty based
Has he ever considered the Messianic version of Christianity?
25:01 😂
If a protestant who is not anglican and a roman Catholic marry and have a child legend says the child ends up being anglican
hi, thats me. Dad was PRC mom Methodist
@@evan12697 Methodists come from Anglicans so honestly if I married a Catholic I still think it's possible to have Methodist children but what will probably happen is I would have Anglican children who have Methodist theology but prefer Anglican churches
@@stevn744 I've been to my grandparents' Methodist Church plenty of times and they're wonderful people, obviously the Spirit is strong in their congregation, but I just don't vibe with the low church/evangelical/pass-the-mic/kumbayah stuff they do. Maybe that's them, maybe that's more widespread, I don't know.
@@evan12697 yeah though we aren't that low church is depends on the Methodist Church because there are more high church Methodist the denomination itself is mid church so it has that mixture of low and high church though I'm curious how you grew up if mom was Methodist and Dad was Catholic
@@stevn744 they both started going to an episcopal church in the most literal via media way lol. Mom's side didn't care bc church is church as long as there's no Pope, Dad's side flipped shit and took years to get over it lmao
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1Peter 2 teaches that all genuine born again believers are The Royal Priesthood
No need of any religious order. Rome takes the head place at the head table!
The very opposite to what JESUS taught! Luke 14 v 7
Living stones ~ baptised in THE 🕊️HOLY SPIRIT🔥 on The Day of Pentecost
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Which is the correct denomination and which is the false teacher?
There is no one “correct denomination” in my opinion, orthodox and Catholics always fight over who the true church is but as long as you join a non heretical church it’s okay
@@UninformedThinker Neither the Orthodox or the Catholic church is a denomination. There is only one church one teaching Christ established. The word “Catholic” is meant to be an adjective, not a noun. We are not a denomination which goes by the name “Catholic,” but are members of the Church of Christ who have a mission to bring the “fullness” of God’s plan to “all” people.
We have two Calvinist denominations one which likes having bishops and one doesn't. Which one you wanna convert too is basically based on do you like bishops or not.
Also do you like depictions of Jesus or not.
If you hate art depicting Jesus and you hate bishops you are a Presbyterian, also known as church of Scotland.
If you love bishops and love depicting Jesus you are Episcopalian.
Also known as Anglican.
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 You would think it would be based on what Christ established, not personal preferences.
@@dan_m7774 well Jesus was unclear if his apostles held bishopric or Presbyteric structure, Jesus was vague and his apostles were vague on apostolic succession.
The Bishop Presbyter was blurred originally.
And Jesus said absolutely nothing on stain glass depictions of his face.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
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Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool @refrigeratorinthewinter138 matka Boska bo matka Jezusa czyli Boga czyli Maryja
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O Pani nasza, orędowniczko nasza, pocieszycielko nasza, pośredniczko nasza, z Synem swoim nas pojednaj, Synowi swojemu nas polecaj, swojemu Synowi nas oddawaj, o panno chwalebna i błogosławiona
Nic heretyckiego po czym idziesz odebrać ciało Chrystusa w Eucharystii
@@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool czysta prośba o wstawiennictwo Matki Boskiej
Gdyż jesteśmy zbyt mali i nieśmiali grzeszni by wprost zwracać sie o to do Jezusa Chrystusa Boga jedynego
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I really love Mainline protestants who 1. Don't Fast. 2. Don't using affirmative prayers. 3. Don't believe we are responsible for what we manifest. 4. Wonder why mainline protestants have less and less influence on our nihilistic culture of young people and that our "civic aka: mainline protestant institutions need massive regeneration. Joel Ostend/Norman Vince Peele both are the closest and most accurate preachers of the Gospel.
im baptist but this was funny
Two jews talking together 😂
This was my first UA-cam collab in which I was the LESS Jewish one there
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I just thought it was funny. Praise God that you both are Christian 🙏
As an Anglican, I just do whatever Rome does while complaining about the pope.
Come home
Come home
Be a Calvinist Anglican
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 That's the worst type of Anglican.
@@sameash3153 than why the fuck be Anglican this is basically how Anglicanism started is as simply Catholic Calvinist!
Anglicanism's existence is literally Catholicism if John Calvin was pope!
Westminster confession (partially recognized) the 39 articles!
The King Henry VIII literally gave John Calvin's writings the go ahead circulation in England!
27:00 “i think vermigli basically taught the memorialist view” this is a laughable statement.
I think the Anglican fellow meant Zwingli.
Both should join the catholic church.//
Redeemed Zoomer is more Calvinist than Calvin
The only other dude who pushed double predestination this hard was St Augustine tbh. I think it hold a significant amount of merit lmao
@@isaacrobson4192 hahaha fair you’re talking to a reformed catholic Anglican who spent some time discerning with the Augustinian Friars.
They look like eavh other😅
Bible is Bible why yall debating 🗿🗿🗿
Because different denominations have accrued different interpretations of the Bible.
Because not everyone agrees on what the Bible teaches. Deal with it.
Different things can be understood differently, such as when Jesus said, 'THIS IS my body.'. Is it literal or not?
IS MEANS IS!!!!!!
Is means is, as long as the definition of is is not is, so is means is.