Thanks to everyone who tuned in! As you might be able to tell, working in illustrator and answering questions was a little difficult for me, appreciate your patience with my rambling sometimes nonsensical answers to questions!
Whenever you get to building the Japanese cluster, you could name them after Shinto gods. This would be very interesting as the Imperial dynasty was considered to be descended from Amaterasu. So it would be very cool to name their celestial cradle as their heavenly forebear.
I think to make it easier, do the string/hyperlanes first. Because the narrative stated that the journey/migration follows the stronger string. Give a bold line for strong string and thin line for lesser string. It is easier to put the star system and cluster when you have the general idea of string direction. Also it makes the map more realistic
Missed live, but for the mega structures thing you might want to consider Dyson Swarms over spheres, a bunch of satellites instead of a giant impossible ball. Another thing to consider for power generation both on ships and planets is the Kugelblitz engine, essentially an artificial black hole used to create massive amounts of cheap power. Also has amazing industrial accident potential
I was initially skeptical of this setting, when the options were first put forward. The more I hear about it, though, the more it grows on me. Look forward to watching it develop.
Since all main groups have Chinese planets, I'd really like to see Hokkien speakers in Japan, the Comintern Chinese SSR (prob Mandarin) and America/OTO (probably Cantonese due to Hong Kong and Macau + the Chinese Americans, who're more likely to have been evacuated first before the mandarin speakers from the republic of China, which if they control southern China is majority Canto-speaking anyways). A Hong Kong based solar system would be pretty cool too, especially if they go the Venice route and trade between oto and the Japanese empire.
Anyways, i've got a few ideas for you right out of the stargate. To really make it cold war reflective you're probably gonna have to draft in some rarish and/or hard to extract geostrategic resources of critical necessity & the stellar equivalent of a nuclear stockpile. Phosphorus would be a good candidate for the neccisary scarce resource. It's actually very rare in space, often there's just pockets of it regionally concentrated (we think, based on available spectrographic surveys). It's only generated in stellar nova, but since the quick fusion that occurs at the end of a stars life tends to run all the way to argon before slowing down a little it's preciously rare...And preciously critical to organic chemistry. As for your "nuke" equivilent I suggest some sort of weaponized strange quarkstar material.
@@Exaldear Maybe. I was running with the proposition of keeping it as hard edged scifi as possible, based on real, known things. Phosphorus checks a lot of boxes. It doesn't take much, as most life only uses it in trace amounts. But without it...Death would soon follow. It'd be critical to agriculture, medicine, food production, personal hygiene products, animal feeds. Among others. And it absolutely would be one of the most precious things to colonies in terraforming. Most planets would lack it except in extreme trace amounts in the parts per quintillion. Think of it being like the salt trade in early iron age societies. That valuable or more. Stopping a colonies shipment or stealing it could quite literally be a potential death sentence.
@@brianhirt5027 Just saying I kind of love the idea of Phosphorous being a big strategic resource - it plays into the theme that the loss of Earth was in fact a major deal. On Earth life is easy, and what we need is here and ready for us. Out in space, it's not. So hydrocarbons? Dime on a planetful, just go scoop a gas giant. Fertilizer on the other hand? People arm up and get twitchy about their claim. It feels great.
Nomadic caravans of any type. Because I see space as a type of ocean, the equivalence would be like a merchant fleet. Or because they're flying through space, it could be called a flotilla.
The Symbols for factions and systems reminds me of the Metro2033 map. I remember spending hours just looking up the stations, look where the frontlines were, when I came across a name in the story i checked where the station was. Ah, good times.
Enjoyed the stream (missed watching live) always love a good map making. Any plans to color code the star lanes? Don't need to be complex maybe just 3: Strong-Normal-Weak
This type of free talk videos is what gives me the best understanding of a setting and is generally exactly what I need to get started on understanding new worlds ❤
It would be cool if the three Draconis systems were all connected and formed a triangle. Then Sigma Draconis should connect to path leading to USA/Brazil, Theta Draconis connects to path to India/Japan, and Delta Draconis connects to both Sirius and Tau Ceti, which in turn both connect to Bernard's Star. Additionally, both Theta and Sigma Draconis should have the path connected to go South. This makes the Draconis Cluster VITAL to trade and perfect for proxy wars and puppet states. This triangle would be rife with stories and conflicts and competing interests. The downside is that it might look unnatural, since it would be esentially mirrored, but it might turn out good with some TLC and good planning! Just an idea! I am LOVING this setting, super into it!❤
Dakuwaqa Deeps and Sea of Clouds regions of the map is super pretty. I'd suggest having 1-3 set entrance/exit points for the 'cosmic strings' in each system, similar to Alderson points in the CoDominium book series. It makes battles in space a necessity, instead of completely avoidable. Systems can control shipping by blockading the points.
Consider having some fairly small powers/colonies next to really large one and ask how is their relationship historically. If hostile how does the small one maintain independence or is it fully independent. How this shows in society. As a Finn such geopolitical (or in this case stellar political) position is familiar one and has impacted my life an environment in ways many other societies don't experience. Could also consider space equivalents of enclaves and chokepoints like Kaliningrad and Suwalki Gap, perhaps a critical transport system is either shared or immediately next to potentially hostile nation's system. You could also add detail on your map and worldbuilding, perhaps slightly later after you figure out general locations of nations, by distinguishing between different levels of system with slightly different symbols (rings or other additions around the symbol and different size of symbol). Sort of tier system like: 1. capital system, 2. system with at least one inhabited planet with major population or very heavy space population, 3. system with only low population planets or significant space habitats, 4. colonized systems with permanent population, but more something along the lines of new colonies just starting or mining or other such outposts that have population but don't have full comprehensive self sufficient economy/production of basics therefore relying on imports of supplies heavily. 5. System with only minor presence perhaps military monitoring station, research outpost etc, 6. System that is claimed by one of the powers but has no meaningful continuous presence. (These could be interesting in terms of geopolitical and diplomatic aspects. One nation might think they can ignore another's claim to snatch a system with no presence while other can shout claims to ridiculously large area. Irl example China's attempts to claim large sea territories in violation of international treaties on the premise we said so. )
I would just like to see a popular African* Epic Fantasy series or a Popular Southeast* Asian Epic Fantasy story or an Epic Fantasy story based in Australia/based on Aboriginal religion and mythologies....and an epic Fantasy story based in South America too tbh. An epic Maori Fantasy story, Epic Turkish Fantasy story, Epic Caucasus/Circassian Fantasy story, an Epic Assyrian Fantasy story, Epic Maya Fantasy story and an Epic Ainu Fantasy story all set in Alternate Worlds, would be cool too.
The Star Lanes are all very linear. IE: You got via A to get to B then to C. It would be interesting if you had to travel down map to get go up map, and vice versa.
That thing about most planets having such basic life that your wheat takes over everythin; it reminds me of a book called "Through Struggle, the Stars". In it, the Japanese discover wormholes and start an interstellar land rush. There are more than thirty habitable planets within sixty lightyears, but the only life on most of these planets is single-celled. There's also some interesting history, such as China de-communizing and taking over Taiwan, America becoming #2 power after China and Japan, and the European Union becoming sort of like the Federation from Star Trek.
Due to the evacuation we could potentially see prior peppered countries fleeing to other corners of the universe for protection and probably many different nations for the same peoples
Hiii, Brazilian here, please name the furthest star "Acre", we have a meme in here that Acre is outdated in every news and stuff, because their time zone is different from the other states. Also because it is kind isolated, having the Amazon Forest in between it and the rest.
For ftl comms my suggestion would be to use a modified version of the drive to transport signals rather than matter, have them sent deeper in system to special Comms stations with in system Comms happening at light speed, creates some interesting solutions and problems. Feel free to use.
I love the project and I'm excited to see how it will grow! here are some thoughts I had: Why did the superpowers spread out so far and not settle the planets along the way? The explanation with the major lanes were discovered first and that's why the superpowers are further away doesn't satisfy me. I think it would make more sense if we had super long cosmic strings with no planets but larger clusters at the end. Or a string of planets owned by the superpower that expanded along it. IMO the latin systemnames should be for the italiens. Kinda makes sense to me. Maybe the French/Spanish since they share the linguistic origins.
2285 seems a little early to have colonized 100s of star systems tbh. I think by then we could’ve colonized the local group, but not much more than that.
@@prophetchosen862 More like 70, but yes. However I'd say that in such a short span people would probably be far too busy scratching out a living & building infrastructure. Most everything would be more akin the the western frontier. Probably not enough time for empires to really get built up.
@@brianhirt5027 yes I agree but I think with future style robots and automated factories you could probably make constuction a really easy thing. and so long as there is oppertunities to live the people will also go there. making a fast spreading out of humanity pretty plausable.
@@jochemswart4970 There's only so much automation can handle at once. Only so much you can 'goose' biological & chemical processes. Even under best possible automated circumstances it'd take hundreds of years of very hard work to terraform a planet into anything even close to reliably earthlike.
@@jochemswart4970 I agree. But there would be hard constants to contend with setting up something from zero scratch infrastructure. Unlimited automation wouldn't terraform mars more rapidly by much, for instance. He should probably add another century to the timeline.
Orcus is the progenitor of Tolkien's "orc" etymology Tau, omega, et cetera, are Greek letters; draconis and whatnot are typically Latin, with a few Latinized Arabic. There are a lot of named stars that were observed and named independently by Chinese.
Had an idea for what a Chernobyl in this setting could look like, feel free to use or ignore. Since if I understand things correctly in this setting information doesn't travel very well (at least not at present), it would have to be something big enough to catch international attention. I had two lines of thought. One would be to go with the idea of an early Dyson Sphere, but instead of a Sphere you'd go with the much more feasible Dyson Swarm, following the idea that at best this setting would only have access to the early steps of a things like the mega projects we'd see in say Stellaris. Say a faction wanted to create a Dyson Swarm for energy production, they find a relatively isolated system in their sphere of influence, maybe only one hyper-lane/cosmic-string that connects to it, only one or two inhabitable planets they've set up colonies on, and a bunch of smaller uninhabitable but very resource rich worlds/maybe something like our Sol Systems Kuiper Belt. Lot of materials, easy to control the traffic in and out of, in their territory, already has some infrastructure set up. Basically a place that would be perfect for such a project. Problem is this would be the work of decades, and even setting that aside the manpower requirements would insane. So someone comes up with the idea of just automating it. The set of a large manufacturing facility, possibly orbiting one of the inhabited planets, somewhere people can get to it for work/managing it. The facility is designed to create two types of drone ship, one is designed to collect energy and send it back to the facility, the other gathers materials from the belt/one of the uninhabited worlds, which it then brings back home to build more drones. Now as long as the programmers did their job right, and people keep an eye on things, the drones should just build the Swarm for them, progress would pick up as time went on, and the people in system should be able to reap the benefits and not have to worry about the drones at all (assuming, again, the programmers did their job right and includes something like "avoid these planets/anything that registers as containing something living"). But then something goes wrong, something causes a glitch (which may or may not have been the result of human interference), and the swarm goes rogue. Where the story goes after this depends on how you want to handle it. Maybe the swarm descends on the human inhabitants, the systems is quarantined, and it just stays in that one isolated system doing it's original job, it's just that it see's anything and everything as potential resources for harvest. Maybe the Soviets or whoever is behind it have some sort of failsafe and destroy the swarm. Maybe the swarm starts eating itself. Maybe outside powers step in and help handle the problem. Etc... Point is the Faction who started this project just lost a lot of people and resources for nothing, and everyone is just that much more paranoid about a potential grey goo scenario, sort of like how some people would be more paranoid about nuclear power after Chernobyl. Another idea, more related to something that might catch more international attention. Go with the idea of a relatively isolated system, with only one string/lane that passes through it, only real thing of note is one of the worlds on it has a military base. There's rumors of some secret project going there, but no one is really sure and according to it's government, it's just a normal base, nothing special, it's just we don't want people looking at out stuff so stop asking to see inside. Then the local string goes dead/lane stops working. No one knows why, there's pretty much no quick way into the system to figure out what happened, or even getting info from it at all. Even if you just tried looking at it with more conventional means, the light and images you'd get would be from years ago. People are panicking wondering what the hell happened, or if this is going to keep happening. Is it some sort of weapon that misfired, was it a natural occurrence and lanes might just stop working randomly, what's happening to the systems that depended on that particular lane for contact with the rest of the Arm? Other powers start demanding to know what the hell was going on in that base, tensions are high, and I'm honestly not sure where you'd want to take this story if anything. Again, just a thought, feel free to ignore me entirely.
I wonder what results and consequences of domesticated crops from earth that are now growing on Tau Ceti unchecked, and totally outcompeting the native flora will have on the development of that planet’s ecosystems in its future. Also, just want to say, I totally love your channel and I am loving that you are creating your own unique and original world, and it’s a very cool and unique world. I’m looking forward to how it develops. 😊
I like the Imperial Federation idea instead of the United Kingdom. It's an idea we dont see much and it'll be a good way to include the other countries in the British Empire (Canada, Australia, etc)
I think it be really cool that for the United States, that several different planets are primarily settled by people healing from a specific subculture/states To mirror real world, immigration patterns to different areas of the United States of America. Most planets would probably have several different settlement patterns considering it’s a whole planet lol. I’m just thinking it would be cool that some United States systems have a distinct culture that is inherited by Mormons from Polynesia and the Mormon corridor, another primarily settled by people from the Gulf Coast and so on. Although by 2285 those regional cultures would probably be much different in their time than what they are today.
Parallel to your mentions of government sponsorship to settle is actually America who were willing to pay people money if they moved out west and improve the land. Probably because as a nation you can only really claim ownership of something of your people are there owning it. Which was why they wanted people to move out there. Corporations are probably less directly involved in this process unless of course again governments incentivesed corps to settle planets.
Just saw your pitch off your main channel. Interesting. I'm especially interested in your desire to make it evocative of realpolitik. Think I might be of some assistance in that regard as a close GEOPOL observer for fourty years with a mild history & polsci obsession.
Do all the cosmic strings used for FTL travel connected to stars or are there points, maybe between clusters, where strings meet at crossroads in interstellar space? The crossroads could be choke points and controlled by one side or the other that starships can cross in exchange for transit fees.
I mean the failed Austria Painter was a known coward so if Tripods showed up in Berlin he would totally flee if the chance was given. I do think it would be cool to have a lore nugget that Himmler took over afterward but was killed by a military coup for doing something widely perceived as harming the German people. Any plans to place a few Venezuelan, Colombian, Ecuadorian, Peruvian, and Bolivian systems in the Amazonia cluster? If you go ahead and create a Native American system you should reflect their local variances, or come up with a lore reason they were all crammed on one planet. The Cherokee, Navajo, Apache, Comanche, and Iroquois are some important groups that come to mind. Fun fact: do not let all the Greco-Roman architecture in DC fool you, the United States government is actually based on the British Parliament and the Iroquois Confederacy.
Missed the stream, but will Betelgeuce be a thing on the star-map assuming that in this time line, it goes supernova? And can one create ships? Also, like the Interstate highway system, I could see the American space lanes being designated Interstellar 5 for example, with I-5 originating from Alpha Centauri
It would be cool to see some non authoritarian governments represented in the lore. It seems like all of the major powers are at best capitalist democracies or at worst authoritarian states/empires. It'd be cool to see like an anarco-socialist faction (like catalonia) or a anarcho capitalist space hellscape represented too, even just as minor powers
That is a possibility specially since the evacuation of earth took place before the Spanish civil war, so the cnt-fai would still have a lot of influence in Catalonia
@bernardocampos8363 yeah don't get me wrong I like the x nation but in space thing, it'd be realy cool to see other political ideologies represented as another alternative to capitalism/facsim/state communism
As for the 13 star Betsy Ross flag what if it's a reference to the first 13 colonies they made after they dipped from alpha Centauri. They didn't keep adding stars because they were expanding so fast they would have to update the flag every 6-12 months which they didn't want to do and by the time expansion slowed down their were an impractically large number of colonies to add stars for
I hope they do the map for the United States better than in the original. Or a lot of what was the Democratic Federation which is renamed the Orion Treaty Organization in this iteration. While the organization as a whole had a way to expand, many powerful nations making up its territory couldn’t expand because they were blocked by neighbors. This didn’t make sense and would have led to tensions so I hope they give at least the most powerful members ways to expand/access to the frontier especially since in the original iteration the other factions didn’t have this issue.
What if there is no seperate FTL communication and messages have to be relayed between systems with ships that travel along cosmic strings and transmit the messages throughout the system once they arrive. Or there could be a way to send a signal along one of these cosmic strings that gets picked up by a receiver on the other end to be retransmitted in system.
I feel racism would take a backseat to realpolitik issues of making allies and stabilizing trade. Also feel what planet you are born on would be more be a bigger deal than what race you are. So feel racism in this world would be more like the modern day racism rather than 1940s lynching levels. I feel that the one faction most likely to stay hardline racist is the Germans for obvious reasons and maybe smaller isolated worlds holding on to old values
Soviets & japanese wouldn't have gone the same direction. They'd just had a war in 1905 in which Japan handed Russia it's ass. Quite famous in military history.
Well, since we can’t see that area of the map maybe their is some feature that keeps the Territories isolated like no traversable paths meaning any fleets wanting access have to go all the way back to Earth, which would grantee piss everyone off. The right distance to keep an eye on a former enemy while ensuring they can’t touch you.
@@mrXOwarrior True, but I tend to save the "They Just Royally Screwed Up," for the really bad stuff like Disney+ She-Hulk and that awful Velma show. Besides, it's a little bit more fun coming up with a Watsonian explanation rather than lazily saying the author made a mistake.
@@jbadger30 Russia was utterly humiliated by Japan. We're talking Tsarist russia, to boot. Read up on the battle of tushima sometime if you want a good laugh. Incompetence is hardly a new thing for russian army....Even more so for it's navy.
I doubt there'd be a confederacy of native American states, they used the Europeans to war against each other in the same way the Europeans used them. You'd probably get independent tribal colonies which would likely be positioned within that local cluster. Without any higher governing power lording over them, they'd probably just return to squabbling amongst themselves again. Other natives that were more integrated with the United States would just just give up any desire for independence and integrate more fully.
Oh, he can't see any of this because he's only paying attention to a discord stream commentary? Ah. That might explain a few things. Dang it. Well, shit. I guess I'll just hope you get in contact with me, kiddo. Sounds like you're working on something fun I wouldn't mind participating in. Maybe one of the superfans can let him know about my offer. Thx.
When depicting Communism, I hope you don’t depict Communism as a ideology as only ever being the standard authoritarian Stalinist one-party state with heavy restrictions on freedom of speech (I’m not opposed to some star-nations being portrayed this way so long as it’s not the only portrayal of leftist star-nations) & portray other leftist stellar star-nations taking influence from more democratic & Libertarian Left branches of Socialism & figures such as Emma Goldman, Eugene V Debs, Rosa Luxmburg, Murray Bookchin, Nestor Makhno & Anton Pannekoek etc & socialist experiments such as the Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities in Chiapas, Mexico, Rojava in North East Syria, Anarchist Catalonia during the 1930’s & Free Territory of Ukraine during the Russian Civil War.
I think the subcontinent is really under represented in all sifi. I mean your talking about a region that is cultrually diverse as europe and has intresting conflicts. If you wanna lump india, pakistan, siri lanka and Bangladesh are just one united governent i think it will be silly and a tragedy that the dynamics of this region was simplified just like that. India is not a representation of all of subcontinent india is an indian state out of 6 nations that exist on the indian subcontinent. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, bhutan, siri lanka and India. India is built on secular nationalism. Pakistan on islamic nationalism and Bangladesh on bengali nationalism. Indian and pakistani ideologies are rivals. India thinks of itself as a civilization state and that nations like Pakistan and Bangladesh are simply hostile parts that are split from thier righteousness place in geeater india. Pakistan sees it self as thw smaller weaker state built out of major minority in the subcontinent muslims. Muslims think Pakistan is successor of the muslim empires in india and that Pakistan is a disticnt civilization from the republic of india and should be a sperate state as loyalty to islam trumps civilizational identity. I am myself a pakistani it's just that this region has real rivalry and bad blood that is generations deep. It should be represented as a major chunk of humanity lives in these nations. It will be intresting to see this rivalry brought to the stars with Pakistan being a security state while india tries to establish its hegemony over this region. It will certainly enrich your setting deeply.
Do me a favor, if you have to put Italy and Italians too in this project, do not represent us as fascists or mafia guys. Fascist regime lasted for twenty years, but it wasn't welcome here in Italy. Also, since we lost the proper "Italia" on Earth (due to the infection right?), just represent us keeping in mind how we consider ourselves: "poets, saints and sailors". In a sense, considering our Diaspora, it would be a wise idea consider the concept of a "moving nation" or "space nomads" for us Italians. That would be really appropriate.
If I were to create a work of science fiction similar to this one, it would be the same as this one but different in society and governance. Humans would still inhabit Earth in my version, it had recovered from decades and centuries of pollution, climate change, deforestation, mining, agriculture, urban sprawl, overfishing and hunting. Of course, it was caused by humanity itself. But, it would have a conflict between those who accepted the ideologies of the Enlightenment vs. those who rejected the ideologies of the Enlightenment. A Left vs. Right social/political divide in space. A future liberal humanity on Earth and our solar system, the descendants of democratic Europeans/Americans, socialist Russians, and communist/technocratic Chinese/Indians happily living together with advanced technology. A future conservative humanity on planets outside of our solar system, with descendants of old school Americans who favored pre-1960s society, Italian fascists, German national socialists, paleocons, pagan Roman Empire admirers, and Catholic Christendom monarchists living separately from one another with limited technology except spaceships. Unlike the creator of this particular work, I am a supporter of monarchy and a critic of democracy.
With star maps inevitably coming down to connected dots, I would really love to see to someone making a metro-style reskin of the map (google Hary Beck) :D Might even end up as a new way of maping stars! And those maps can be really complex, as a London all-in-one city map with metro, tram, river-tram, bus, parking zones... if someone took an opportunity to transfer that richness of information to space maps that would be great
The problem is a metro map looses many intricacies, most importantly scale. A metro map is obviously pretty badly out of scale and makes it harder to imagine what the world looks like.
Thanks to everyone who tuned in! As you might be able to tell, working in illustrator and answering questions was a little difficult for me, appreciate your patience with my rambling sometimes nonsensical answers to questions!
It's always interesting to hear your world building process I can't wait to see more of this series.
Whenever you get to building the Japanese cluster, you could name them after Shinto gods. This would be very interesting as the Imperial dynasty was considered to be descended from Amaterasu. So it would be very cool to name their celestial cradle as their heavenly forebear.
Awesome job so far!
If you want to create a nation of Canadian republicans that split from the UK, you could call it Vesperia - 'land of the evening star'.
Also, if you decide to make Australia an independent state, you could call their region the Outback Stars. And include a planet name Uluru.
I think to make it easier, do the string/hyperlanes first. Because the narrative stated that the journey/migration follows the stronger string. Give a bold line for strong string and thin line for lesser string. It is easier to put the star system and cluster when you have the general idea of string direction. Also it makes the map more realistic
Could also have dotted lines for lanes that have closed or open and close over time as positioning changes, that could have some potential
Like the early explorers following rivers or game trails.
Missed live, but for the mega structures thing you might want to consider Dyson Swarms over spheres, a bunch of satellites instead of a giant impossible ball. Another thing to consider for power generation both on ships and planets is the Kugelblitz engine, essentially an artificial black hole used to create massive amounts of cheap power. Also has amazing industrial accident potential
The Cherniby kugelblizt facility(located in the ussr) very creative I know
I was initially skeptical of this setting, when the options were first put forward. The more I hear about it, though, the more it grows on me. Look forward to watching it develop.
Since all main groups have Chinese planets, I'd really like to see Hokkien speakers in Japan, the Comintern Chinese SSR (prob Mandarin) and America/OTO (probably Cantonese due to Hong Kong and Macau + the Chinese Americans, who're more likely to have been evacuated first before the mandarin speakers from the republic of China, which if they control southern China is majority Canto-speaking anyways).
A Hong Kong based solar system would be pretty cool too, especially if they go the Venice route and trade between oto and the Japanese empire.
@@terranova1203 I'm born in Hong Kong post 1997.
Wouldn’t Hong Kong be British?
@@felixseaborn8173 it’d be long past that point in time I’d think.
Anyways, i've got a few ideas for you right out of the stargate. To really make it cold war reflective you're probably gonna have to draft in some rarish and/or hard to extract geostrategic resources of critical necessity & the stellar equivalent of a nuclear stockpile. Phosphorus would be a good candidate for the neccisary scarce resource. It's actually very rare in space, often there's just pockets of it regionally concentrated (we think, based on available spectrographic surveys). It's only generated in stellar nova, but since the quick fusion that occurs at the end of a stars life tends to run all the way to argon before slowing down a little it's preciously rare...And preciously critical to organic chemistry.
As for your "nuke" equivilent I suggest some sort of weaponized strange quarkstar material.
The obvious one would be fuel for ftl however ftl works.
@@Exaldear Maybe. I was running with the proposition of keeping it as hard edged scifi as possible, based on real, known things. Phosphorus checks a lot of boxes. It doesn't take much, as most life only uses it in trace amounts. But without it...Death would soon follow. It'd be critical to agriculture, medicine, food production, personal hygiene products, animal feeds. Among others. And it absolutely would be one of the most precious things to colonies in terraforming. Most planets would lack it except in extreme trace amounts in the parts per quintillion. Think of it being like the salt trade in early iron age societies. That valuable or more. Stopping a colonies shipment or stealing it could quite literally be a potential death sentence.
@brianhirt5027 not a bad thing to implement.
@@Exaldear We'll see if the channel author agrees eventually, I suppose.
@@brianhirt5027 Just saying I kind of love the idea of Phosphorous being a big strategic resource - it plays into the theme that the loss of Earth was in fact a major deal. On Earth life is easy, and what we need is here and ready for us. Out in space, it's not. So hydrocarbons? Dime on a planetful, just go scoop a gas giant. Fertilizer on the other hand? People arm up and get twitchy about their claim. It feels great.
At 47:00 I think the real world equivalent would just be travelling people, like the Romani or Irish Travellers.
Nomadic caravans of any type.
Because I see space as a type of ocean, the equivalence would be like a merchant fleet. Or because they're flying through space, it could be called a flotilla.
The Symbols for factions and systems reminds me of the Metro2033 map. I remember spending hours just looking up the stations, look where the frontlines were, when I came across a name in the story i checked where the station was. Ah, good times.
Same even though i didn´t like the fantasy aspect, it was a rather neat read
Ye, the nitty gritty abyss of humanity is the franchises strongsuit
@@PracticeNine for sure
I love watching the process of worldbuilding I wish there were more videos and streams of people doing it!
Enjoyed the stream (missed watching live) always love a good map making. Any plans to color code the star lanes? Don't need to be complex maybe just 3: Strong-Normal-Weak
This type of free talk videos is what gives me the best understanding of a setting and is generally exactly what I need to get started on understanding new worlds ❤
I’m optimistic and looking forward to learning more and seeing more about this!!!
It would be cool if the three Draconis systems were all connected and formed a triangle.
Then Sigma Draconis should connect to path leading to USA/Brazil, Theta Draconis connects to path to India/Japan, and Delta Draconis connects to both Sirius and Tau Ceti, which in turn both connect to Bernard's Star.
Additionally, both Theta and Sigma Draconis should have the path connected to go South.
This makes the Draconis Cluster VITAL to trade and perfect for proxy wars and puppet states.
This triangle would be rife with stories and conflicts and competing interests.
The downside is that it might look unnatural, since it would be esentially mirrored, but it might turn out good with some TLC and good planning!
Just an idea! I am LOVING this setting, super into it!❤
Cool ideas
1:13:30 The true superpowers are the friends we made along the way.
Dakuwaqa Deeps and Sea of Clouds regions of the map is super pretty.
I'd suggest having 1-3 set entrance/exit points for the 'cosmic strings' in each system, similar to Alderson points in the CoDominium book series. It makes battles in space a necessity, instead of completely avoidable. Systems can control shipping by blockading the points.
This is beautiful
Brazil could have a bunch of planets named for species of trees in the Amazon, or minerals common in the former Brazilian territory on Earth
Consider having some fairly small powers/colonies next to really large one and ask how is their relationship historically. If hostile how does the small one maintain independence or is it fully independent. How this shows in society. As a Finn such geopolitical (or in this case stellar political) position is familiar one and has impacted my life an environment in ways many other societies don't experience.
Could also consider space equivalents of enclaves and chokepoints like Kaliningrad and Suwalki Gap, perhaps a critical transport system is either shared or immediately next to potentially hostile nation's system.
You could also add detail on your map and worldbuilding, perhaps slightly later after you figure out general locations of nations, by distinguishing between different levels of system with slightly different symbols (rings or other additions around the symbol and different size of symbol). Sort of tier system like:
1. capital system,
2. system with at least one inhabited planet with major population or very heavy space population,
3. system with only low population planets or significant space habitats,
4. colonized systems with permanent population, but more something along the lines of new colonies just starting or mining or other such outposts that have population but don't have full comprehensive self sufficient economy/production of basics therefore relying on imports of supplies heavily.
5. System with only minor presence perhaps military monitoring station, research outpost etc,
6. System that is claimed by one of the powers but has no meaningful continuous presence. (These could be interesting in terms of geopolitical and diplomatic aspects. One nation might think they can ignore another's claim to snatch a system with no presence while other can shout claims to ridiculously large area. Irl example China's attempts to claim large sea territories in violation of international treaties on the premise we said so. )
I would just like to see a popular African* Epic Fantasy series or a Popular Southeast* Asian Epic Fantasy story or an Epic Fantasy story based in Australia/based on Aboriginal religion and mythologies....and an epic Fantasy story based in South America too tbh. An epic Maori Fantasy story, Epic Turkish Fantasy story, Epic Caucasus/Circassian Fantasy story, an Epic Assyrian Fantasy story, Epic Maya Fantasy story and an Epic Ainu Fantasy story all set in Alternate Worlds, would be cool too.
The Star Lanes are all very linear. IE: You got via A to get to B then to C. It would be interesting if you had to travel down map to get go up map, and vice versa.
That thing about most planets having such basic life that your wheat takes over everythin; it reminds me of a book called "Through Struggle, the Stars". In it, the Japanese discover wormholes and start an interstellar land rush. There are more than thirty habitable planets within sixty lightyears, but the only life on most of these planets is single-celled. There's also some interesting history, such as China de-communizing and taking over Taiwan, America becoming #2 power after China and Japan, and the European Union becoming sort of like the Federation from Star Trek.
Due to the evacuation we could potentially see prior peppered countries fleeing to other corners of the universe for protection and probably many different nations for the same peoples
Hiii, Brazilian here, please name the furthest star "Acre", we have a meme in here that Acre is outdated in every news and stuff, because their time zone is different from the other states. Also because it is kind isolated, having the Amazon Forest in between it and the rest.
For ftl comms my suggestion would be to use a modified version of the drive to transport signals rather than matter, have them sent deeper in system to special Comms stations with in system Comms happening at light speed, creates some interesting solutions and problems. Feel free to use.
Good idea
Silvanus home of the Silvanusian Space Elf Race
I love the project and I'm excited to see how it will grow!
here are some thoughts I had:
Why did the superpowers spread out so far and not settle the planets along the way? The explanation with the major lanes were discovered first and that's why the superpowers are further away doesn't satisfy me. I think it would make more sense if we had super long cosmic strings with no planets but larger clusters at the end. Or a string of planets owned by the superpower that expanded along it.
IMO the latin systemnames should be for the italiens. Kinda makes sense to me. Maybe the French/Spanish since they share the linguistic origins.
2285 seems a little early to have colonized 100s of star systems tbh. I think by then we could’ve colonized the local group, but not much more than that.
In 60 years we went from saying man will never fly to walking on the moon
@@prophetchosen862 More like 70, but yes. However I'd say that in such a short span people would probably be far too busy scratching out a living & building infrastructure. Most everything would be more akin the the western frontier. Probably not enough time for empires to really get built up.
@@brianhirt5027 yes I agree but I think with future style robots and automated factories you could probably make constuction a really easy thing. and so long as there is oppertunities to live the people will also go there. making a fast spreading out of humanity pretty plausable.
@@jochemswart4970 There's only so much automation can handle at once. Only so much you can 'goose' biological & chemical processes. Even under best possible automated circumstances it'd take hundreds of years of very hard work to terraform a planet into anything even close to reliably earthlike.
@@jochemswart4970 I agree. But there would be hard constants to contend with setting up something from zero scratch infrastructure. Unlimited automation wouldn't terraform mars more rapidly by much, for instance. He should probably add another century to the timeline.
Orcus is the progenitor of Tolkien's "orc" etymology
Tau, omega, et cetera, are Greek letters; draconis and whatnot are typically Latin, with a few Latinized Arabic. There are a lot of named stars that were observed and named independently by Chinese.
Aren't binary star systems quite common? You could pair up Greek/Roman deities like Hestia/Vesta, Artemis/Diana
Can’t wait to see imperial space!!!
Had an idea for what a Chernobyl in this setting could look like, feel free to use or ignore. Since if I understand things correctly in this setting information doesn't travel very well (at least not at present), it would have to be something big enough to catch international attention. I had two lines of thought.
One would be to go with the idea of an early Dyson Sphere, but instead of a Sphere you'd go with the much more feasible Dyson Swarm, following the idea that at best this setting would only have access to the early steps of a things like the mega projects we'd see in say Stellaris. Say a faction wanted to create a Dyson Swarm for energy production, they find a relatively isolated system in their sphere of influence, maybe only one hyper-lane/cosmic-string that connects to it, only one or two inhabitable planets they've set up colonies on, and a bunch of smaller uninhabitable but very resource rich worlds/maybe something like our Sol Systems Kuiper Belt. Lot of materials, easy to control the traffic in and out of, in their territory, already has some infrastructure set up. Basically a place that would be perfect for such a project. Problem is this would be the work of decades, and even setting that aside the manpower requirements would insane. So someone comes up with the idea of just automating it. The set of a large manufacturing facility, possibly orbiting one of the inhabited planets, somewhere people can get to it for work/managing it. The facility is designed to create two types of drone ship, one is designed to collect energy and send it back to the facility, the other gathers materials from the belt/one of the uninhabited worlds, which it then brings back home to build more drones. Now as long as the programmers did their job right, and people keep an eye on things, the drones should just build the Swarm for them, progress would pick up as time went on, and the people in system should be able to reap the benefits and not have to worry about the drones at all (assuming, again, the programmers did their job right and includes something like "avoid these planets/anything that registers as containing something living"). But then something goes wrong, something causes a glitch (which may or may not have been the result of human interference), and the swarm goes rogue. Where the story goes after this depends on how you want to handle it. Maybe the swarm descends on the human inhabitants, the systems is quarantined, and it just stays in that one isolated system doing it's original job, it's just that it see's anything and everything as potential resources for harvest. Maybe the Soviets or whoever is behind it have some sort of failsafe and destroy the swarm. Maybe the swarm starts eating itself. Maybe outside powers step in and help handle the problem. Etc... Point is the Faction who started this project just lost a lot of people and resources for nothing, and everyone is just that much more paranoid about a potential grey goo scenario, sort of like how some people would be more paranoid about nuclear power after Chernobyl.
Another idea, more related to something that might catch more international attention. Go with the idea of a relatively isolated system, with only one string/lane that passes through it, only real thing of note is one of the worlds on it has a military base. There's rumors of some secret project going there, but no one is really sure and according to it's government, it's just a normal base, nothing special, it's just we don't want people looking at out stuff so stop asking to see inside. Then the local string goes dead/lane stops working. No one knows why, there's pretty much no quick way into the system to figure out what happened, or even getting info from it at all. Even if you just tried looking at it with more conventional means, the light and images you'd get would be from years ago. People are panicking wondering what the hell happened, or if this is going to keep happening. Is it some sort of weapon that misfired, was it a natural occurrence and lanes might just stop working randomly, what's happening to the systems that depended on that particular lane for contact with the rest of the Arm? Other powers start demanding to know what the hell was going on in that base, tensions are high, and I'm honestly not sure where you'd want to take this story if anything.
Again, just a thought, feel free to ignore me entirely.
Another worldbuilding project that looks promising is Overheaven.
I wonder what results and consequences of domesticated crops from earth that are now growing on Tau Ceti unchecked, and totally outcompeting the native flora will have on the development of that planet’s ecosystems in its future.
Also, just want to say, I totally love your channel and I am loving that you are creating your own unique and original world, and it’s a very cool and unique world. I’m looking forward to how it develops. 😊
Suggestion for Poland/Ukraine, you could call them the West-Slavic Union or the independent Slavic Union or something!
Slavic Commonwealth sounds good
I like the Imperial Federation idea instead of the United Kingdom. It's an idea we dont see much and it'll be a good way to include the other countries in the British Empire (Canada, Australia, etc)
A scenario you don’t see much, half of all Cold War alternate history scenarios I’ve ever scene create it.
I really hope the
New Cannan Republic,Federation Republic of Endi Martell, and The United Centauri Republic are in it they had some of the best lore
Feel free to use this for the India area could name a system Rama as reference to the Arthur C Clark novel
I think it be really cool that for the United States, that several different planets are primarily settled by people healing from a specific subculture/states To mirror real world, immigration patterns to different areas of the United States of America. Most planets would probably have several different settlement patterns considering it’s a whole planet lol.
I’m just thinking it would be cool that some United States systems have a distinct culture that is inherited by Mormons from Polynesia and the Mormon corridor, another primarily settled by people from the Gulf Coast and so on.
Although by 2285 those regional cultures would probably be much different in their time than what they are today.
Parallel to your mentions of government sponsorship to settle is actually America who were willing to pay people money if they moved out west and improve the land.
Probably because as a nation you can only really claim ownership of something of your people are there owning it. Which was why they wanted people to move out there.
Corporations are probably less directly involved in this process unless of course again governments incentivesed corps to settle planets.
Just saw your pitch off your main channel. Interesting. I'm especially interested in your desire to make it evocative of realpolitik. Think I might be of some assistance in that regard as a close GEOPOL observer for fourty years with a mild history & polsci obsession.
Do all the cosmic strings used for FTL travel connected to stars or are there points, maybe between clusters, where strings meet at crossroads in interstellar space? The crossroads could be choke points and controlled by one side or the other that starships can cross in exchange for transit fees.
I mean the failed Austria Painter was a known coward so if Tripods showed up in Berlin he would totally flee if the chance was given. I do think it would be cool to have a lore nugget that Himmler took over afterward but was killed by a military coup for doing something widely perceived as harming the German people. Any plans to place a few Venezuelan, Colombian, Ecuadorian, Peruvian, and Bolivian systems in the Amazonia cluster? If you go ahead and create a Native American system you should reflect their local variances, or come up with a lore reason they were all crammed on one planet. The Cherokee, Navajo, Apache, Comanche, and Iroquois are some important groups that come to mind. Fun fact: do not let all the Greco-Roman architecture in DC fool you, the United States government is actually based on the British Parliament and the Iroquois Confederacy.
Pacific States should be called Cascadia
Or Pacifica. Or the Pacific States Republic
Freelancer vibes!
Missed the stream, but will Betelgeuce be a thing on the star-map assuming that in this time line, it goes supernova? And can one create ships? Also, like the Interstate highway system, I could see the American space lanes being designated Interstellar 5 for example, with I-5 originating from Alpha Centauri
I LOVE THIS
Visegrad as the eastern European nation
For the Local Cluster, why didn't you just get a local star chart for nearby stars? There are plenty of them online.
It would be cool to see some non authoritarian governments represented in the lore.
It seems like all of the major powers are at best capitalist democracies or at worst authoritarian states/empires.
It'd be cool to see like an anarco-socialist faction (like catalonia) or a anarcho capitalist space hellscape represented too, even just as minor powers
That is a possibility specially since the evacuation of earth took place before the Spanish civil war, so the cnt-fai would still have a lot of influence in Catalonia
@bernardocampos8363 yeah don't get me wrong I like the x nation but in space thing, it'd be realy cool to see other political ideologies represented as another alternative to capitalism/facsim/state communism
@@tyranno-soros8521 the cnt-fai was the name of the Catalan anarchists so it could be possible for them to have an nation in space
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As for the 13 star Betsy Ross flag what if it's a reference to the first 13 colonies they made after they dipped from alpha Centauri. They didn't keep adding stars because they were expanding so fast they would have to update the flag every 6-12 months which they didn't want to do and by the time expansion slowed down their were an impractically large number of colonies to add stars for
Mooore we need mooore
I hope they do the map for the United States better than in the original. Or a lot of what was the Democratic Federation which is renamed the Orion Treaty Organization in this iteration. While the organization as a whole had a way to expand, many powerful nations making up its territory couldn’t expand because they were blocked by neighbors. This didn’t make sense and would have led to tensions so I hope they give at least the most powerful members ways to expand/access to the frontier especially since in the original iteration the other factions didn’t have this issue.
ANZACS australia new zealand astro cluster systems
Your mind will be blown when you discover you already use the Latin alphabet 😂
What if there is no seperate FTL communication and messages have to be relayed between systems with ships that travel along cosmic strings and transmit the messages throughout the system once they arrive.
Or there could be a way to send a signal along one of these cosmic strings that gets picked up by a receiver on the other end to be retransmitted in system.
I feel racism would take a backseat to realpolitik issues of making allies and stabilizing trade. Also feel what planet you are born on would be more be a bigger deal than what race you are.
So feel racism in this world would be more like the modern day racism rather than 1940s lynching levels.
I feel that the one faction most likely to stay hardline racist is the Germans for obvious reasons and maybe smaller isolated worlds holding on to old values
I love potatoes i think they're the best vegetable
I think you're absolutely objectively correct in every single way
Have you thought about adding wormholes for faster travel and better travel?
Soviets & japanese wouldn't have gone the same direction. They'd just had a war in 1905 in which Japan handed Russia it's ass. Quite famous in military history.
Well, since we can’t see that area of the map maybe their is some feature that keeps the Territories isolated like no traversable paths meaning any fleets wanting access have to go all the way back to Earth, which would grantee piss everyone off. The right distance to keep an eye on a former enemy while ensuring they can’t touch you.
@@jbadger30 or the Templin ppl just didn't think about it. No ones perfect.
@@mrXOwarrior True, but I tend to save the "They Just Royally Screwed Up," for the really bad stuff like Disney+ She-Hulk and that awful Velma show. Besides, it's a little bit more fun coming up with a Watsonian explanation rather than lazily saying the author made a mistake.
@@jbadger30 Russia was utterly humiliated by Japan. We're talking Tsarist russia, to boot. Read up on the battle of tushima sometime if you want a good laugh. Incompetence is hardly a new thing for russian army....Even more so for it's navy.
@@mrXOwarrior Indeed. It's not broadly known about much beyond students of military history.
Petition to rename the USA to the United Systems of America.
Will you guys be taking any inspiration from Marko Kloos’s Frontlines?
What software/program did you use for this? I asked in chat but never noticed an answer, and it seems really useful
Adobe Illustrate if I am seeing correct in the upper left corner
@@yanyhdHe also says it at 17:34
where can I find the date for your next live stream?
I doubt there'd be a confederacy of native American states, they used the Europeans to war against each other in the same way the Europeans used them. You'd probably get independent tribal colonies which would likely be positioned within that local cluster. Without any higher governing power lording over them, they'd probably just return to squabbling amongst themselves again.
Other natives that were more integrated with the United States would just just give up any desire for independence and integrate more fully.
Could there be a potential for a faction called the New Canadians?
Indus river is mainly in Pakistan
Yes, but it is historically attributed to Indian civilizations.
@@kylezdancewicz7346 Pakistan is an Indian civilization Indian just refers to geographic region IE Indian subcontinent
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Thank you, kind sir.
@anthonyurena I'm Glad there was someone representing!
Does anybody know which font he is using for the text on this map?
Is America still called the United States or would it now be the United Systems or something like that
Oh, he can't see any of this because he's only paying attention to a discord stream commentary? Ah. That might explain a few things. Dang it. Well, shit. I guess I'll just hope you get in contact with me, kiddo. Sounds like you're working on something fun I wouldn't mind participating in. Maybe one of the superfans can let him know about my offer. Thx.
When depicting Communism, I hope you don’t depict Communism as a ideology as only ever being the standard authoritarian Stalinist one-party state with heavy restrictions on freedom of speech (I’m not opposed to some star-nations being portrayed this way so long as it’s not the only portrayal of leftist star-nations) & portray other leftist stellar star-nations taking influence from more democratic & Libertarian Left branches of Socialism & figures such as Emma Goldman, Eugene V Debs, Rosa Luxmburg, Murray Bookchin, Nestor Makhno & Anton Pannekoek etc & socialist experiments such as the Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities in Chiapas, Mexico, Rojava in North East Syria, Anarchist Catalonia during the 1930’s & Free Territory of Ukraine during the Russian Civil War.
Dont forget the most successful libertarian socialist society, CHAZ
Thanks for the laugh
Does anyone know why the vid is in 720p?
I think the subcontinent is really under represented in all sifi. I mean your talking about a region that is cultrually diverse as europe and has intresting conflicts. If you wanna lump india, pakistan, siri lanka and Bangladesh are just one united governent i think it will be silly and a tragedy that the dynamics of this region was simplified just like that.
India is not a representation of all of subcontinent india is an indian state out of 6 nations that exist on the indian subcontinent. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, bhutan, siri lanka and India.
India is built on secular nationalism. Pakistan on islamic nationalism and Bangladesh on bengali nationalism. Indian and pakistani ideologies are rivals. India thinks of itself as a civilization state and that nations like Pakistan and Bangladesh are simply hostile parts that are split from thier righteousness place in geeater india. Pakistan sees it self as thw smaller weaker state built out of major minority in the subcontinent muslims. Muslims think Pakistan is successor of the muslim empires in india and that Pakistan is a disticnt civilization from the republic of india and should be a sperate state as loyalty to islam trumps civilizational identity.
I am myself a pakistani it's just that this region has real rivalry and bad blood that is generations deep. It should be represented as a major chunk of humanity lives in these nations. It will be intresting to see this rivalry brought to the stars with Pakistan being a security state while india tries to establish its hegemony over this region. It will certainly enrich your setting deeply.
Looking for a name for a galactic non human empire if you have any suggestions reply
What kind of aliens are they?
The Qel’vorok Ascendancy
They are aleins centered around a cult worshiping a eldritch god called Kazaron. At the momment that is all I have
Yeah the Qel'Vorok Ascendancy sounds good thanks for the idea
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What happened to the three settings there was a vote on? Tagali Wastes and whatnot?
Already happened towards the end of last year
Just kinda dropped
@@bwgaming-lq4gd they had videos on the outcome and the plan going forward.
@@Exaldear I thought they weren't developing the other worlds due to the vote.
@@bwgaming-lq4gd they weren't this was the winner
Do me a favor, if you have to put Italy and Italians too in this project, do not represent us as fascists or mafia guys.
Fascist regime lasted for twenty years, but it wasn't welcome here in Italy.
Also, since we lost the proper "Italia" on Earth (due to the infection right?), just represent us keeping in mind how we consider ourselves: "poets, saints and sailors".
In a sense, considering our Diaspora, it would be a wise idea consider the concept of a "moving nation" or "space nomads" for us Italians.
That would be really appropriate.
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If I were to create a work of science fiction similar to this one, it would be the same as this one but different in society and governance. Humans would still inhabit Earth in my version, it had recovered from decades and centuries of pollution, climate change, deforestation, mining, agriculture, urban sprawl, overfishing and hunting. Of course, it was caused by humanity itself. But, it would have a conflict between those who accepted the ideologies of the Enlightenment vs. those who rejected the ideologies of the Enlightenment. A Left vs. Right social/political divide in space. A future liberal humanity on Earth and our solar system, the descendants of democratic Europeans/Americans, socialist Russians, and communist/technocratic Chinese/Indians happily living together with advanced technology. A future conservative humanity on planets outside of our solar system, with descendants of old school Americans who favored pre-1960s society, Italian fascists, German national socialists, paleocons, pagan Roman Empire admirers, and Catholic Christendom monarchists living separately from one another with limited technology except spaceships. Unlike the creator of this particular work, I am a supporter of monarchy and a critic of democracy.
Oh, they used chat GBT. Unsubscribing.
With star maps inevitably coming down to connected dots, I would really love to see to someone making a metro-style reskin of the map (google Hary Beck) :D Might even end up as a new way of maping stars!
And those maps can be really complex, as a London all-in-one city map with metro, tram, river-tram, bus, parking zones... if someone took an opportunity to transfer that richness of information to space maps that would be great
The problem is a metro map looses many intricacies, most importantly scale. A metro map is obviously pretty badly out of scale and makes it harder to imagine what the world looks like.