Top 100 Games of All Time: #50 - #41

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  • Tom, Zee, and Sam continue listing their Top 100 Games of All Time with numbers 50 through 41!!
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:48 - Sam’s #50
    03:28 - Tom’s #50
    04:46 - Zee’s #50
    06:57 - Tom’s #49
    08:31 - Zee’s #49
    09:44 - Sam’s #49
    12:46 - Zee’s #48
    14:01 - Sam’s #48
    16:09 - Tom’s #48
    17:30 - Zee’s #47
    20:07 - Tom’s #47
    21:41 - Sam’s #47
    23:48 - Tom’s #46
    25:12 - Sam’s #46
    27:08 - Zee’s #46
    29:18 - Sam’s #45
    32:02 - Zee’s #45
    34:12 - Tom’s #45
    35:31 - Sam’s #44
    37:48 - Tom’s #44
    39:28 - Zee’s #44
    41:12 - Tom’s #43
    42:49 - Zee’s #43
    44:55 - Sam’s #43
    47:21 - Zee’s #42
    49:00 - Sam’s #42
    51:16 - Tom’s #42
    52:30 - Sam’s #41
    55:47 - Tom’s #41
    57:15 - Zee’s #41
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  • @Mentat1231
    @Mentat1231 6 років тому +26

    I remind myself that the top 50, for someone who has played ~3,000 games, represents the top 1.6%. For a normal gamer, who's played ~200 games, that's her top 4! So, these really are beloved games for these guys.

    • @BinaryBard64
      @BinaryBard64 5 років тому

      Except that most games are boring, or become boring after a play or two. I've played most of these games, and found many to be a little dull. I think a lot of these are here bc out of 3000 games, 2500+ are totally uninteresting or worse.

  • @armus29
    @armus29 6 років тому +96

    I wish this series had cut scenes and screenshots of the games while you guys discuss the game.

    • @n.g.6718
      @n.g.6718 6 років тому +1

      Marcus Vlaar wish so too!!!!!!

    • @2401Jem1980
      @2401Jem1980 6 років тому +2

      i wish the same, but its much more, maybe to much, work i guess.

    • @rachaelk3743
      @rachaelk3743 6 років тому

      I was just coming here to say the same thing!

    • @overfiendalpha
      @overfiendalpha 6 років тому

      I agree.

    • @abrahamtellez592
      @abrahamtellez592 6 років тому

      ditto!

  • @destrio
    @destrio 6 років тому +4

    While I lay at home sick all week, I've managed to watch some of these while conscious and they are great. Your genuine banter keeps my spirits up

  • @JimCroz
    @JimCroz 6 років тому +2

    I'm loving this format for top 100s. It reminds me of listening to Test Match Special, which is basically a bunch of people bantering with an occasional mention of the cricket match they're supposed to be covering.

  • @AL-xp1wk
    @AL-xp1wk 6 років тому +3

    I love you guys top ### lists, the interaction between the 3 of you is great--Keep you the great work guys--keep making more lists!!!!

  • @johchadow
    @johchadow 6 років тому +2

    The Age of War: "It just brings people together." Sam Healey, 2017

  • @lasttruegypsy
    @lasttruegypsy 6 років тому +8

    I could be wrong, but it seems like Sam and Zee's lists are merging to the middle weight games this time around.

  • @Jeff321
    @Jeff321 6 років тому +31

    Thanks for releasing these more quickly! One per week would've taken forever.

    • @thediceodyssey4690
      @thediceodyssey4690 6 років тому +1

      Amen brother. My favorite thing they're releasing at moment. Keep em coming multiple times a week!

    • @twitchster77
      @twitchster77 6 років тому +5

      2 1/2 months < forever

  • @kobusleroux1930
    @kobusleroux1930 6 років тому +6

    Great fun to watch your top 100 videos. Good work guys.

  • @allanchong6713
    @allanchong6713 6 років тому +2

    Tom's #46 Twilight Struggle is also on Sam's list at #81. He forgot he had mentioned it back in Sept 2017.

  • @sophiarichardson8661
    @sophiarichardson8661 6 років тому

    Great job, guys! I love listening to you and glad to see you bounce back from the hurricane so quickly.

  • @antirnator8194
    @antirnator8194 6 років тому +2

    Great to see Puerto Rico moving up in Tom's top 100 one of the best Boardgames EVA!

  • @middleclassboardgamer
    @middleclassboardgamer 3 роки тому

    Fun to go back and watch these two years later. I don’t remember Sam mentioning Cry Havoc in his top 100. Bought it back in March and really enjoy it. Heard it at Sam’s 50 and smiled.

  • @hudsonjesse3177
    @hudsonjesse3177 6 років тому +5

    Zee, man, you've got to play Burgle Bros.!! It's the richer, more satisfying version of Forbidden Desert!!

  • @exiledsonofhawaii3934
    @exiledsonofhawaii3934 6 років тому +6

    Mage wars is my number 1 game. It gets no love. Love Roma too. Thanks for mentioning it Zee.

  • @AaronCB1321
    @AaronCB1321 6 років тому +3

    Hey guys love the lists...I do miss a cut away to a screenshot of the game you used to do in older lists. I know it's more work in editing but would you mind including it in the final 10!? Keep up the amazing work!

  • @alexeicauchi9968
    @alexeicauchi9968 6 років тому

    The Twilight Struggle app is fantastically done. How they managed to scale the UI to mobile devices is a stroke of genius. Definitely one to own, and dirt cheap. Learned how to play off it, despite owning an unopened physical copy.

  • @leoem4nuel
    @leoem4nuel 6 років тому +1

    I smile when Tom says, in a matter-of-fact tone, that when Jason says he played Photosynthesis 40-50 times means he only played 10 times.

  • @pirotehs
    @pirotehs 6 років тому +20

    Tom hates Alan Moons now, 33 place drop... :)

  • @Barney5G
    @Barney5G 6 років тому

    Tom: " Basically, Zee has one friend" LOL

  • @woj_kal
    @woj_kal 6 років тому

    I love that there are 3 of them and everyone is soooo different

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 6 років тому +16

    I love the contributor provided number transitions!

    • @mstreed
      @mstreed 6 років тому +1

      Brice Lory thanks much!!

  • @jwsjourney
    @jwsjourney 6 років тому

    I really think that Mythic Battles: Pantheon will be on someone's list next year. I am so excited to get it in December

  • @Daniel87sweden
    @Daniel87sweden 6 років тому +4

    Great video! Your backdrop is beautiful, but quite bright which makes your faces look a bit dark. Maybe you could add some stronger light to your faces?

  • @kchorst5037
    @kchorst5037 6 років тому +2

    10/10 banter on this one.

  • @calebyagow8677
    @calebyagow8677 6 років тому

    Got me cracking up around 53 min great lists. I also wrote off bunny kingdoms until I met a group playing it at Gen con in the library and thought enough of the groups opinion to sit down and try it. I loved it and now own it.

  • @Vagenlitefoot
    @Vagenlitefoot 6 років тому

    great lists guys

  • @smoothcriminal28
    @smoothcriminal28 6 років тому +1

    Arena Roma 2 is one of the best card/dice games ever made. A masterpiece in my book. However, it was a game that took me 10 plays to love. There are a lot of different paths to victory in this game. New gamers may feel that some cards are OP asf in the first couple of games but every offense in this game has a defense. You just gotta play it a couple of times to really understand the layers of strategy hidden within it. Probably Feld's most underrated game to date.

  • @bjornfranke8132
    @bjornfranke8132 6 років тому +3

    Sounds logical. When something is flying under the radar it can't be knocked out of the park :-D

  • @fredericbarbe
    @fredericbarbe 6 років тому

    I really like that middle bunch!

  • @justinbolles9645
    @justinbolles9645 6 років тому +2

    "You did what on yourself?" -Sam

  • @clg6000prime
    @clg6000prime 6 років тому +2

    Please put "Lice Shower" back in Zee's song.

  • @marshalll9257
    @marshalll9257 6 років тому

    I'm loving all the Heroscape in this

  • @robo3007
    @robo3007 6 років тому +29

    "What game do you farm souls in?" Dark Souls, of course!

  • @Jeff321
    @Jeff321 6 років тому +5

    Cutthroat Kingdoms needs a review please!

  • @TrevorJust
    @TrevorJust 6 років тому +2

    Twilight Struggle is on the app and it’s AMAZING

  • @GirlyGamer-BoardGameGran
    @GirlyGamer-BoardGameGran 6 років тому +3

    I'll always err on the side of Zee.. .that's just how it is.

  • @jessechapman9347
    @jessechapman9347 6 років тому +3

    Tom, the majority of your top 100 don't even get played once a year? Do you think if you did play every game on your top 100 each year that it would affect placement on the list?

  • @thediceodyssey4690
    @thediceodyssey4690 6 років тому +7

    I gotta get Sole Fide played. It sounds pretty good.

    • @philz6164
      @philz6164 6 років тому +1

      The Dice Odyssey I think you should check out more on the game. My understanding is that both players just start selecting areas of control until you end up fighting for the last area and then it's up to the play of the cards on who wins.

    • @thediceodyssey4690
      @thediceodyssey4690 6 років тому +1

      Phil Z yeah, I'm a sucker for religiously themed games kinda like Sam, especially when they're historically based.
      I'm learning Greek right now to actually translate the New Testament cause of it being mostly written in Greek, and this just naturally appeals to me.
      Also The reformation is an amazingly interesting time in history that I'm studying. If they have great mechanics like you say, this may need to hit my table soon.
      So many games, so little time lol.
      Thanks for your input Phil.

  • @elijahfuller9693
    @elijahfuller9693 6 років тому

    @Sam I was surprised you had Viral in your top 50. During the review of the game he didn't seem to think that highly of it. Did multiple plays make you enjoy the game more? Is it possible we might see Rising Sun on any list? or is it being excluded from lack of plays or not being released until 2018?

  • @Osborne4Life
    @Osborne4Life 6 років тому

    No Eldritch Horror yet from Tom... Last year that game was in his Top 70's, and earlier this year he made a "Why I Love" episode on Eldritch Horror. But the possibility of the game going up 40 spots on his list...

  • @josiahdavoli5157
    @josiahdavoli5157 6 років тому +1

    Sam Gave Bunny Kingdoms a 1.5 thumb up in the review, wow it grew.

  • @RicoCordova
    @RicoCordova 6 років тому

    Below is my 50 - 41...at this point is where my taste in games begin to really diverge from DT. :)
    50 - Rating: 8.50 - Mission: Red Planet (Second Edition)
    49 - Rating: 8.50 - Roll Through the Ages: The Bronze Age
    48 - Rating: 8.50 - Eminent Domain
    47 - Rating: 8.50 - The Castles of Burgundy: The Card Game
    46 - Rating: 8.50 - Bohnanza
    45 - Rating: 8.50 - Nations: The Dice Game
    44 - Rating: 8.50 - The Red Dragon Inn: Battle for Greyport
    43 - Rating: 9.00 - Kanagawa
    42 - Rating: 9.00 - Stockpile
    41 - Rating: 9.00 - Suburbia

  • @quinnsommerfeld7458
    @quinnsommerfeld7458 6 років тому +4

    Please, don't feel like you need to defend yourselves every time you rate a dice tower essentials game highly. If it's a great game then it's a great game! It would be weird if you didn't rate them highly but still wanted to make them part of your essentials line.

  • @DrakkanWoW
    @DrakkanWoW 6 років тому

    Oh man! I could tell you were about to say that you "just taught this one to a new gamer and GrandCon and it went really well (except he was really bad at it)" when talking about Clank! but you were interrupted!

  • @MattD007
    @MattD007 6 років тому

    I am a bit surprised Whitehall Mystery didn't replace Mr. Jack for Zee. Such a better game and better looking overall.

  • @TylerAndToast
    @TylerAndToast 6 років тому

    53:26 I'm dying lolol

  • @smoothcriminal28
    @smoothcriminal28 6 років тому +1

    Ok, that's it. Am getting Automania.

  • @marknic
    @marknic 6 років тому

    Mr. Jack is AWESOME. Tom is crazy. That is all...

  • @gbursine
    @gbursine 6 років тому

    the headers on the lists at the end weren't updated. enjoyable nonthaless

  • @2401Jem1980
    @2401Jem1980 6 років тому +4

    On the Endscreens it says Top 70-61 :D

    • @Mr_Mooo
      @Mr_Mooo 6 років тому

      seems only a few of us noticed this due to people stopping the video before it ended... so I will upvote in the cause that someone may see it.

  • @smoothcriminal28
    @smoothcriminal28 6 років тому

    Vasel is right. Puerto Rico is amazing amazing amazing. I love it.

  • @Redfoxe
    @Redfoxe 6 років тому +1

    Well Well. Lords of waterdeep still in there

  • @TheDiceMatrix
    @TheDiceMatrix 6 років тому

    Love Blood Rage & Cry Havoc!

  • @LTdrumma
    @LTdrumma 6 років тому

    47:40 Sam quotes Mrs. Pancakes

  • @GoldenSirius
    @GoldenSirius 6 років тому

    "It's one of the few games in my top 100 that I play almost every year for sure"
    And that is why your Top 100 should not be taken seriously. :P

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  6 років тому

      So if one has a top 100, they need to play every game in it multiple times a year. Is that even feasible? :)

    • @gamera2351
      @gamera2351 6 років тому

      GoldenSirius You expect someone to play all 100 games on their list yearly??

    • @GoldenSirius
      @GoldenSirius 6 років тому

      But you didn't say "multiple times every year", you said "one of the - few - games I play - almost - every year". So most of your games, you don't even play every year..

    • @Phelixc
      @Phelixc 6 років тому

      I imagine finding time to squeeze in already played games with all the new releases, and also have time for work and spend time doing other stuff is quite hard. I've got about 100 games in my collection now, and I have a hard time finding time to play the games I like regularly. Imagine when you've got several 100's....

  • @JhoffDJ.
    @JhoffDJ. 6 років тому

    Sam's list is pretty much unpredictable other than he likes the cult of the new.

  • @Syncopator
    @Syncopator 6 років тому

    Ok, where is it-- Wiraqocha has to be in there somewhere...

  • @thediceodyssey4690
    @thediceodyssey4690 6 років тому +8

    Wow, what a wonderful surprise to come home from the beach to! Sam's beard needs to get its own instagram now.....love MARK STREED.

  • @jimsmith7445
    @jimsmith7445 6 років тому

    Love "Forbidden Desert"... wish they would make another one.... different setting.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 6 років тому

    Puerto Rico is to me the best game of all time.

  • @TheRmm1976
    @TheRmm1976 6 років тому

    List at the end of video says "Top 70-61" instead of 50-41. Just sayin'

  • @laughingbandit33
    @laughingbandit33 6 років тому

    I do not mean this with any hate; and most of these are good games but: Once again Sams list is dominated by the popular mainstream stuff Tom and Zee are surprised, and Sam doesn’t acknowledge it. I’m all for these new games but a TON of stuff has dropped to be replaced by new games. Apparently 2017 was the best year ever for board games! (Which it was decent)

  • @undersci
    @undersci 6 років тому +2

    Bunny Kingdom redeemed Sam's list.

  • @Chaaber
    @Chaaber 6 років тому

    We played Ethnos as a 5 player. Damn we didn't like it. I had high hopes but it is random as hell. The winner said it himself. I have no idea why I won, just better draws. Nothing more in this game. Maybe with less people you have some control.

  • @TylerAndToast
    @TylerAndToast 6 років тому

    If the Photosythesis box looks like the art you showed on screen, then that's the coolest box art I've ever seen! What do you mean lack luster?

  • @moporte
    @moporte 6 років тому +1

    The transitions...

  • @Steve-L
    @Steve-L 6 років тому

    Puerto Rico is my 103rd favorite game. It's a game my meetup will play on and off, and so I have played it a few times. It's good, but not great, and there is no elitist aspect in our group with it. I like the card game version more, that is San Juan which is my 57th favorite game.
    Viral is a game I probably will never play as medical games turn me off.
    El Grande is fairly high on my "to play" list. I expect to like it.
    Automania is my 100th favorite game but needs more plays.
    Lords of Waterdeep is a disappointment for me, I like fantasy and do like several worker placement game, but found this game bland.
    Quest for Eldorado is another game on my "to play" list. Expect to like it.
    TIME Stories another game high on my "to play" list.
    Blood Rage is my 34th favorite game, but the hype really turned me off, but still liked the game.
    Among the Stars, yet another game on my "to play" list, but not particularly high on that list. I am not a 7 Wonders fan.

  • @Tarmagh
    @Tarmagh 6 років тому +2

    I like the Number call outs! Thank you Mark Streed.

    • @mstreed
      @mstreed 6 років тому

      Tarmagh thanks so much! I had a ton of fun with it...

    • @MultiGaine
      @MultiGaine 6 років тому +1

      Hi, newbie here. Could you please tell me what game the transitions were done with? It looks very interesting.

    • @mstreed
      @mstreed 6 років тому

      Heroscape! Sadly it is out of print.

    • @MultiGaine
      @MultiGaine 6 років тому

      Mark Streed Cheers, I'll look it up.

  • @balzi76
    @balzi76 6 років тому

    I respectfully disagree about the Puerto Rico elitism thing. There's probably people who behave like that, but the game just has a much higher level of interaction than most euros. Like Zee said, it's not more robust. But neither is it just popularity. A new player can accidentally play king-maker in small ways because you are literally making a decision on everyone's order of actions at the same time. Imagine if you played Terra Mystica and everyone's second action had to be whatever the second person did? You could seriously mess stuff up for someone on your left and open the perfect opportunity for someone on your right. Most games don't have that level of micro-turn AND lack of overall control of 75% of the turns you play (in 4P). Therein lies the beauty of Puerto Rico for Tom and others like me, and for Zee and Sam, the pain and torment.

  • @zigzak77
    @zigzak77 6 років тому

    But Blood Rage isnt easy for a newbie against veterans?

    • @paulanderson7347
      @paulanderson7347 6 років тому

      zigzak77 we had a newbie win because we thought him a non threat and just attacked each other. Bad oversight on our part.

    • @jayfraser6497
      @jayfraser6497 6 років тому

      We have never had a new player come anywhere close to winning. Understanding synergy between cards especially in building towards the final Age. There are a lot of games k=like this, so not really a knock on the game. New players have always had fun and had aha! moments after seeing how the more veteran players drafted and played the game. Fantastic game but definitely a huge advantage goes towards those how have played it a few times before.

  • @Brockoly3
    @Brockoly3 6 років тому +10

    I know these guys were turned off by the theme, but I enjoy Chaos in the Old World much more than Blood Rage.

    • @shady610
      @shady610 6 років тому

      I played that for the first time this weekend,and I didn't see the buzz.

    • @Brockoly3
      @Brockoly3 6 років тому

      Mario Sickenberger Blood Rage or CitOW?

    • @shady610
      @shady610 6 років тому

      Brock Huffman chaos. I didn't like how strategies are determined for you. and if you sway from ot, it can be costly.
      khorne won because nobody realized battling him was an easy path to his victory.

    • @Brockoly3
      @Brockoly3 6 років тому +2

      That's a fair point. However, I tend to really like games that have asymmetric powers where each faction has a certain strategy you need to perfect in order to do well. In games like Blood Rage you can do whatever strategy you want since everyone starts out the same, but I really enjoy honing in on the strategy of the card I've been dealt as it gives me a focus right out of the gate on what I need to do, and the more plays you have of a game like that you really learn the strengths and weaknesses of each faction. Slaanesh won our first game, but the Khorne player was being very passive. Mistake obviously. I played Khorne in my second play of the game and knowing the mistakes of game one was able to capitalize on the original players mistakes and take the win, although it was very close. I've heard the same argument between Agricola and Caverna. Half the people like Agricola better because you're given a strategy right out the gate while the other half prefer the more sandbox style of Caverna. Honestly, I won't turn down a game of any of the above mentioned. I just love to game! The asymmetrical powers is just my preference.

  • @almsthvn
    @almsthvn 6 років тому

    34:34 Tom hates America?~?~ ? *snicker

  • @jordancanon-kruis8555
    @jordancanon-kruis8555 6 років тому

    “I liked it first!” - #hipsterhealey #lumberjackbeard

  • @toddhunter123
    @toddhunter123 6 років тому

    I don’t think bloodrage will make Sam’s list. Seems way too old

  • @rnghwdbcs
    @rnghwdbcs 6 років тому

    Actually, Eric Lang have said once that Rising Sun's combat system was inspired by Cry Havoc as far as I remember

  • @ThomasMcCancejr
    @ThomasMcCancejr 6 років тому

    "Asymmetrical-ness" - Tom Vasel 2017
    Asymmetry, Tom :)

  • @ramonosuke
    @ramonosuke 6 років тому +1

    But Cry Havoc is a flash in the pan, with its imbalanced factions, only 15 total actions you can do and limited card/event pool. Who knows maybe the expansion will fix it, which is par for the course with Portal games nowadays.

  • @philz6164
    @philz6164 6 років тому

    Problem with Puerto Rico for me is that the first several moves are scripted, as tom said, a new person messes it up because of that. Every play has a single optimal choice and that sucks. I've even played solo by just making those "perfect" choices for each player.

  • @julianst.pierre5019
    @julianst.pierre5019 6 років тому

    Zee "I already have Fury of Dracula", Proceeds to put 6 version of Pandemic on his list.

  • @madifinley7018
    @madifinley7018 6 років тому

    The visuals of Automania is so off putting.

  • @jejouejeuxpartage9542
    @jejouejeuxpartage9542 6 років тому +1

    for me :
    50. help me
    49. les cités perdues
    48. les inventeurs
    47. nautilus
    46. bombay
    45. croa
    44. Jaipur
    43. agricola, terre d'élevages
    42. takenoko
    41. génial

  • @AirStrike1992
    @AirStrike1992 6 років тому +6

    The guy doing the numbers had me cracking up

    • @mstreed
      @mstreed 6 років тому +2

      AirStrike1992 😎

  • @jeanborrero
    @jeanborrero 6 років тому

    These lists would be a few minutes shorter if you didn't make each other guess the game before it gets announced :/

    • @arbiggerstaff
      @arbiggerstaff 6 років тому

      Jean Borrero if it's too long just zip to the end and check out their full lists.

    • @link_7164
      @link_7164 6 років тому +1

      Personally, I quite like when they guess

  • @knivesthec10wn
    @knivesthec10wn 6 років тому +3

    Great lists BUT the creepy ass peekaboo Mr. Rogers guy calling out the numbers was....annoying to say the least lol

  • @javeyjav
    @javeyjav 6 років тому +10

    These transitions man..... Yikes... Just bring back Eric already.

    • @BinaryBard64
      @BinaryBard64 5 років тому

      They rly need to just get rid of these annoying skits. I don't wanna watch the Dice Tower B-Team make 100 attempts at comedy.

  • @fixer10091994
    @fixer10091994 6 років тому +3

    There we go with the cringy transitions again