Rolex Explorer vs Cartier Santos - Which one? Or both?
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- A look at two of the best modestly sized watches available: The Rolex Explorer 114270 and the Cartier Santos WSSA0029.
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My video on the Explorer: • I bought a 36mm Rolex ...
My video on the Santos: • The Cartier Santos Med...
An ELEGANT comparison between these 2 stunning pieces. If I had to choose, I’m still team Santos 😆
"christ, I need a cheaper hobby" unbelievable line 😂😂
It’s funny because it’s true.
@BM22hilarious 😎
@BM22 which lord?
@BM22 there is only one and that is Lord Voldemort!!!!!!
I probably think the same everyday.
Doesn’t stop me looking for my next one though😂
It’s been amazing to see the evolution of this channel. Genuinely helpful analysis as always. Cheers
That’s great to read. Thank you.
@@YoureTerrific where can I find the grey watch pad you have?
Santos. As great as the Explorer is, it has surpassed its own "understated Rolex" status into one of the most loved watch in the community. The history of Santos alone is unbelievably cool.
I love that you said try them on and see which makes you smile more.
Of course! That’s what it’s all about.
I have the Cartier large and its my most used watch this year. Elegant and easy to match with your dress style. The adjustment of metal bracelet and replacement of the leather strap from metal to leather is genius.
Agreed with the choice of size, the large all day! Ditto on the versatility!
I initially bought the 2 tone and wound up picking up a stainless variant as well.
Santos all the way... Richer history than the explorer, more sexier on the wrist, cheaper and has two straps which is like two different watches.
You make a good case.
I love my santos... 😍
Santos is $350 more than the explorer.
hell naw
Its more expensive than the Exp - i own both
Most modern screw down crowns do add more water resistance. There is a rubber "crush" gasket/grommet inside the crown on the cap, or end. When you screw down the crown firmly, that disc of rubber is squeezed & compressed over the end of the crown tube making it also expand outwards into the walls of the inner crown. This creates a wonderful hermetic seal. There is usually an o-ring gasket on the stem of the crown, usually in Japanese watches, or in most swiss, the o-ring gasket is inside of the crown tube. Of course Rolex added the third gasket at the case-end of the outside of the crown tube to create a third sealing surface when the crown is fully screwed down, creating Rolex's "trip-lock" system of their diver models.
This sounds too good to be incorrect. Thanks for writing this.
@@YoureTerrific lol, you are welcome. It's correct, disassemble and reassemble watches everyday.
Hush, child!
(Only kidding! This sounds authoritative enough for me).
Thanks for the comment, Troy. What about the Santos? I was in a Boutique in Monaco two days ago to try out the watch for the first time. This is where I discovered that Santos is 10 ATM but has no screw down function. Now I am wondering how safe is this watch in water / how good is the protection of the movement. The sales agent was not able to explain that. I am talking here swimming in pools & seaside, no jumps etc.
10 ATM without further protection seems somewhat misleading by Cartier. Thanks for your feedback!
The Santos is hard to tear your eyes away from. The Explorer is my favorite Rolex but I'd have to pick with the Santos. It is so elegant!
the santos is such an amazing piece and its been my almost daily watch for the past 3 years. the explorer should arrive soon. i hope it will be as exciting as the santos. great video! thanks!!
Perfect collection!
Imagine going into a dealer in 2004 and walking out with an Explorer on your wrist. That would be something. That said, I went with the large Santos because a bracelet adjustable by hand and swapped to leather on the fly is where 2021 is at for me. Fantastic video!
This video really shows how small the medium size really is. I’ll be getting the large as well
You don’t need to go back that far - In 2014 I went in and could choose between a Ex1, Sub and Sub Date all available (Daytonas&GMTs were just getting hyped)
@@Boros777 that's true. I just picked the year Evans explorer is from :)
@@g4ld3r Yeah…
I even saw an Patek Aquanaut in that dealer - no one wanted it and now its double retail
@@Boros777 In 2017, the Patek AD in Sydney had both the Aquanaut and Nautilus 7118 available and on display.
Great advice. Great presentation. Great dry humor and writing. Criminally underrated videos.
I have the Cartier myself and I’m on the waitlist for the Explorer. I see a place in my collection for both of these. The sportiness of the Explorer and the elegance of the Cartier.
Right now my Medium Santos is my only luxury watch and I literally wear it every day. I think it looks great with jeans and t-shirt. I do feel I need something sportier for what I’m wearing literally workout clothes or stuff like that. But my mini-CasiOak fills that role for now.
Do you find you get it scratched easily like people say?
@@krugmeup2162 absolutely! I wear mine every day and I’m like 3 months into ownership and it definitely gets scratched super easily. However, I don’t necessarily see this as a negative. I never plan on selling it and one day it’ll be a charming vintage watch that I can pass down.
@@tylerjohnson2080 yeah great it should be for enjoyment
With its leather strap (that’s unbelievably easy to swap out) the Santos is so very close to being the one watch watch collection - it’s not a watch it’s a lifeboat out of this ridiculous hobby 😩
I´m pretty sure Cartier soon will offer a rubber strap as well..then the Santos truly is the silver bullet.
that is my hope
Can say the exact same about the Explorer, it can be the perfect one watch collection.
I need that life boat
@@itoldunot2fuckwithme Rubber strap now available!
In Taiwan ( not Thailand let me clarify a bit
The experience buying Cartier santos and Rolex is very different.
You go to a Cartier boutique , you get champagne, desserts , and great services , walk out with a beautiful Cartier red bag and iconic red case and beautiful Santos in it.
You go to a Rolex boutique, you tell them you want an explorer 1 124270 , you leave your phone number and wait for a year ( I think it happens all over the globe)
One random day , you get a phone call with an unfamiliar number , tells you the watch has arrived. Then you think for 10 seconds do I still have the amount of money in bank account however fuck it ,still go pick it up since resell value is high.
No champagne, no dessert, hands you a beautiful green box and leave the store with a complicated mood.
I like the first experience more but it was fun buying Rolex for sure.
Just found this channel. Excellent production quality! Thanks - what a joy.
I had to choose between these exact two watches. I went with the explorer. In the end I think that was the "safer" choice - but I am still stalking the santos ;)
Another watch stalker!
Santos more distinctive
The 2 watches perfectly complement each other - definitely need both🙂
Explorer is easily my favorite rolex
however, there's something more... quintessential about the Santos
the first men's wristwatch, a classic design that stood the test of time
if Omega has the Speedmaster, JLC has the Reverso, Breitling has the Navitimer and Panerai has the Luminor
than Cartier has the Santos. THE watch that deserves to be the face of Cartier
Santos all the way for me
They also have the Tank, without a doubt even more famous. Not many watch companies can lay claim to two horology icons, especially when your main business is actually jewelry.
@@earthenjadis8199 I would personally take a dolce vita over a tank, I find the tank design too "in your face" and blingy, something I'd like to avoid in a dressy, elegant watch, I prefer those to be as understated as possible
but it's definitely an important watch in their collection
also if we talk popularity, I'm pretty sure the ballon bleu de cartier blows both the santos and tank out of the water, the santos is more of a watch nerds watch while the ballon bleu is a very mainstream women jewelry appeal
I had never actually liked the Santos but now, after the videos you've done on your reference, I started to understand what people like about it. Too bad I can only afford entry level swatch group... at least there's entry level japanese watchmaking keeping me entertained.
Ps.
Great shots! You really do them justice
A lot of weird "collector" types seem to have some sort of a hangup on Cartier and do not like then but they can be a fickle bunch in 5 years time they maybe all the rage with them.
@@bighands69 nono wait, I'm not one of those who say "Cartier is a jeweler, not a watchmaker...."! I deeply love the overall style of the brand. I also love the Tank and the Pasha, it was just the Santos itself that did not connect with me
I bought the Cartier Santos medium as my 2nd watch after owning the Rolex OP39 white dial. Very redundant watches but I like the Santos more for everyday use primary for its more stylish looks. The OP will stay as being my 1st luxury watch and only Rolex that will ever have my name on the warranty card. I also LOVE my OP for outdoor adventures, which I trust more to get wet (due more to the oyster case / Rolex brand reputation than the screw down crown) and because it has lume for checking the time in a dark tent.
You read my mind with this video! I have always been wanted to own these two watches! After years of savings I finally got the 39mm Explorer and Cartier Santos will be next on my list!
I love the Santos and tried it on multiple times, but when I tried on a Tank I was sold! It just matches me better. Currently still waiting for a new Explorer...
I did what Evan suggested and bought both! The Santos lives on my wrist in the summer time where I can change straps and bands daily while the Explorer comes out when winter rolls around since it goes better with the greens/tans/blacks I wear. Definitely not redundant to own both (at least that is what I keep telling myself).
I also have both ✊
Great video. I have both (but the 39mm Explorer 1). Love the 'timelessness and legend of both'. I was particularly surprised trying the Santos on in the AD at how well it sat was on the wrist and couldn't take it off.
The most comfortable watch I’ve ever worn
The video, editing, background colors and aesthics make me feel like I'm in an apple store or high end boutique!
Man I show these videos to my friends not only to educate them about watches but to make them laugh. Great content!
That’s awesome! Thanks.
I've owned my Rolex 114270 for a year, I have had the desire for the Santos Medium for quite some time. NOW I want them both. Thx 4 sharing.
Definitely both! The medium Santos is next on my to buy list once I find a good one pre owned, and I'm on the wait list for the new Explorer!
The new Explorer is amazing but why not go on the hunt for a 126200. Smooth bezel DJ36. I spotted one that I persuaded my brother in law to buy about a month ago. The RRP is £5650
This is the most perfect and apt comparison for one watch guys... Awesome job.
Bought the medium Santos in July. I’m so happy I made that choice because I’ve been wearing it every day and it makes me smile every time I open the Cartier box to put it on:)
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Super proud to own both of these.. I find myself wearing the Cartier just a tad more than my explorer. But when I saw this on my recommended I freaked out!
your analogy of putting on larger watches being "fun" and smaller watches being "elegant" puts into words how I've come to view my own collection/watch journey
I have both, 40mm Exp and the ADLC black Santos, love them!
I love how real, poetic and down to earth the script is worded
Great video, as always. Really appreciate the fun you always interject. I had a 114270 a couple years ago and just recently purchased the 124270 on the grey market because I’m an impatient individual. Definitely a noticeable upgrade.
What‘s the difference between these two?
@@svicad4477 most notably is the lug width, bracelet clasp, bracelet, indices sizing, slightly more bulbous case. It’s subtle but really a whole new feel.
Oh great. Now I want a Santos. Its never been a watch I have liked but seeing it in this video has kind of made me want one now
Great video!!! These are both great watches as you aptly stated! I've had good hands on time with the current reference explorer and enjoyed it. I've loved the Medium Santos from afar but actually just picked one up the other day and so happy I did! The Santos is definitely for me!
A near perfect two watch collection: Explorer for casual wear and outdoor situations, Santos for formal wear and more tame settings.
What a great video, I really like your style, very fun but informative as well.Both watches are awesome, and i really like both of them. I lean towards the Santos but if i opened the box and found the Explorer, i would not be sad.
Absolutely love your reviews! Thanks for being honest and upfront about your opinions. Very easy to absorb and crystal clear. Keep up the great work!!
Too kind. I hope I don't make you go broke.
This obsession is going to leave as all broke 😄
“Hush, child.” Precious.
😬
I’ve been in love with the Explorer ever since I got into this hobby. If I ever put one on, there’s a good chance I’ll never take it off.
Same same same
“Just because you think a watch is cool doesn’t mean you should buy it.” So true!
For me it would be neither, it woukd be the Aqua Terra; however between the two I go with Cartier.
I’m so glad I found this channel.
santos is absolutely stunning, yet so simple.
I put on the Santos de Cartier at my local high end dealer and the watch chose me - it sits on my wrist like a warm hug. I would like to try the Rolex Explorer too...but you know the rest.
Nice and entertaining video. Santos for me. Btw. you can measure a rectangular watch with it's diagonal. This will give you the equivalent of diameter with a round watch.
I own both. If I had to pick one to keep and get rid of the other, my choice would be very easy. I’d keep the Santos. It’s just that good!
love your style of storytelling and editing!
Thank you so much!!
I am wearing a 124270 on my 7 inch wrist. I must say 36 mm explorer does not wear "small", but you may say "smaller" (relatively). It is definitely not small. I think it is a great size. Sir Hillary was a big guy around 1.90 meters. Flemming was 1.83.. so..
Contemporary watches getting bigger is an ugly trend where people with classy taste can always choose to refuse :)
fun vs elegant.. I can accept that.. I mean, 42mm and above watches look just toy-ish :)
"you have an unhealthy definition of what it means to be man.." oh man, you rock ! :)
I like you angle, and your reviews..
My friend You have amazing style: signature sarcasm, awesome videography and pleasant music:) keep rocking !!
I have the Explorer and it's truly beautiful, but I might need that Santos to compliment it. You know, so it doesn't get lonely
What a great video. “Consider that if you can’t decide…maybe neither watch is for you.”
I feel I ‘need’ to have a Santos in the collection. Don’t feel it is the same for the Explorer. So, it would be the 39mm Santos for me - and when comparing that to the now discontinued 39mm Explorer there’s also a huge price difference between them (in Santos favour).
If you are into watersports then the explorer is the best choice. Too many people are not into sports and as such do not need an explorer or submariner and would be better off with something else.
I like the Explorer. I love the Santos. But my next watch is going to be a Reverso Classic... I think.
Haha this is exactly my thought too! Love the reverso
Beautifully done comparing both
I had never really considered the Santos until you and Bruce Williams’s videos. I have been trying to get the new explorer from my AD for months now, and I am really starting to think I might like the Santos better. I am going to try and find an AD this weekend that has the medium in stock to try it on in person
The additional deployant strap (mine is navy blue) was the clincher for me. It changes the look in an instant ... and is lighter for evening wear. The watch is quietly discreet - but it has great presence and cuff appeal. My pal has the larger model which is big, but he has the wrist to rock the watch. The curved glass on both is a joy.
I worn both 2 weeks ago and the Santos make me smile much more
By getting the Santos on bracelet and buying Delugs aftermarket quick-change straps, AND getting the Explorer and with Oysterflex Bracelet using smartyendlinks to attach then, it is my dream duo and perfect two-watch combo.
I love both of these watches. Very iconic and couldn't choose as they both make me smile, so brought both. Unfortunately, all watches (from budget to luxury) make me smile so I might need a cheaper hobby.
I have a Date Just and a new Cartier Santos large and I never thought I’d love a watch more than my Date Just..... but I have since buying the Santos I’ve not worn my Date the way it fits my wrist it’s incredibly comfortable and is absolutely stunning especially with it’s beautiful blue face super happy best watch I’ve ever owned
Have the explorer and it’s truly a one watch collector kinda watch. But that Santos tho… wow looks so good.
Because it is.
4:05. That doesn’t look small. Looks like a perfect fit.
I have just p/x'd my 39mm explorer for a Santos. Initially wanted the medium but eventually went for the large ADLC bezel version for two reasons - the slate grey dial is stunning, even better than the blue version. Secondly the bezel will be more scratch resistant than the polished steel versions.
Both are great watches, the resale on my Rolex has proved superb but the Cartier pulls harder on my heart strings. No regrets.
Also thinking about this watch and my only reservation is how poor the movement is (inc. PR) for the money
Never clicked on a video faster!
Awesome
@@YoureTerrific Brilliant video thanks for showing them both side by side, still don’t think I can decide between them both! 😊
2 of my favourites! Cartier, however, would be my one watch (or even better, one brand) collection.
The Explorer I is my favorite Rolex model so it wins this head to head for me. I love Cartier though but I would prefer a Tank or even better yet a Basculante.
For me, your video are always fun and easy to watch. 😉😉
Nice vid! I enjoy your content and your commentary. Also, Mike France (of Christoper Ward) once said in a podcast interview that the screw down crown doesn’t matter when it comes to water resistance. So I think you are onto something. In fact, I would love for someone to really address this in a vid because there seems to be some massive econfusion on this point in the watch community.
I have a couple watchmaking friends. Maybe I should interview them with the most commonly asked questions.
Personally if I were getting my first watch, I would go for the Santos. However since I already own a Cartier, I do want to see what all the fuss about Rolex is about. -Han
I would pick the medium santos over the explorer without any major debates with myself. Where it would get tricky is the large santos vs the Rolex date just…. Those two I would really struggle
Both! I have an Explorer 214270 and a Santos 100. I love them both equally like my children. Except maybe more than my children.
I own the 39mm Rolex explorer and love it as for the Santos I’m not a big fan of it just don’t like to look but that’s just personal preference, but I do like the Cartier tank, I just never been into square watches...I feel the explorer looks more versatile
Perfect choice of background music !
Dang man I want a medium santos. I’m a huge watch nerd and it’s what I derive quite a lot of joy from in my life right now, so I really want to save up for my first luxury watch. I don’t make “luxury watch” money though, really. But I suppose it ultimately comes down to perseverance and time as a deciding factor 🙏 I strangely also want a Tudor P01 lmao
You want a P01? I don't want to make you panic, but please go see your doctor as soon as possible. I think there might be something terribly wrong.
@@kirkhammett231 😂😂😂😂😂
I am saving for a medium santos too, but instead of Tudor i want a Omega Constellation
Personally, I'm going for the Santos. I love the classic look and the long (120 year !) history attached to it. Besides, it looks unique. You can spot a Santos from a distance.
The comment about manly watches... BRILLIANT and totally spot on.... those two are perfect, and so is my g shock and a 34mm date just.. it's all good!!
You actually did it!! I haven't even started watching it yet and I'm buzzing :)
Spot on. 💯 Had both, still have 36mm Explorer dial OP.
I got lazy, too and got both, except I have the 39mm Explorer and large Santos (in blue dial). Very happy with them.
Can’t argue with that combo
I have and exp and a santos and I love them both. You can wear either one in any situation pretty much. I don’t think there’s a wrong choice with these 2 tbh.
Truly the 2 must-have time pieces for collection. I am still waiting to get the 124270, and once it is in my possession, the santos will be next immediately.
Beautiful video! Awesome shots!
I really enjoy watching your videos , you give a lot of good info and right now I have a screen shot of the comparison you did with the Tank Large and XL Must on your 7inch wrist. I have a 7 1/4 inch wrist and really like that the XL Must is Automatic and have the Geo Shae Dial…. I do not have a Cartier store near me so trying to decide based on that screenshot I took from your video .
My wrist is 7.25. I felt the XL was too large. The Large is the way tk go for me. Best of luck.
Before I thought this channel is slowly becoming my favourite watch channel, but I was wrong, about the slowly part.
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Exactly, buy what makes you smile.
These are exactly the two watches I will choose between.
Yes, the main point of a screw down crown is to prevent the crown from popping from pressure on a deep dive BUT some crown designs have gaskets inside the crown that add an extra seal when completely screwed down.
…and the PAM, whilst not screw down, has that hunking great lever as part of the design, to prevent the same.
@@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160 yes, same concept different design
Such spot on commentary. More people need to understand what you're saying!
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Both deserved to be in every collector’s collection :D
04:40 amen 🙏
You know it!
Was kinda happy this has finally been said
Have a Santos. Gave my daughter my Explorer 2.
Love this video man thank you for being a real watch guy
read my mind, this is exactly what I was comparing in my head. Currently on Medium Santos and was considering the 36 explorer
For your wrist, I'd go with the Cartier Santos. For my 7.5 inch wrist I like the 39mm Explorer (ref. 214270). Thanks for the video!
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i regret not buying the santos when it was widely available for less than 4k a couple years ago
4k new? They do seem to be increasing prices at least once per year. Twice this year, I think.
How did you not scratch that polished bezel.. That's impressive
I have the Santos medium and currently saving up for the explorer.
I have the new 36mm and I’m saving up for the santos.
They are both beautiful.