These were the real deal. Not that modern versions of these by Citizen are bad by any means, but they are cased in either China or Thailand these days and are only antimagnetic up to 4,800 Gauss - the original version was entirely made in Japan and boasted a whopping 16,000 of antimagnetic properties.
A really interesting history of the watch. I purchased a new 7828-H09971 TA with the original Kevlar strap when they first came out in 1999, as I was astonished by the design and the manufacturing attention to detail. I've always loved it but I've never worn it so it's still in as new mint condition and running perfectly as it has done for the last 20 or more years. I think I'll hang on to it as I reckon that like yours, it will become quite collectable in years to come. Great video - Thanks!
this is indeed like the ultimate field watch.. a good size, solar, tough as hell, bigand easy to use crown, very legible, decent lume and a little special with the RM / Yellowstone connection.. i knew there were a few RM citizen tough watches but i haven't seen this one before. great video!.. i love field watches, but apart from timex all the budget friendly ones are big, and the timex ones tick very loud.. if casio made their mtp-s120 in 38mm in a sandblasted finish it would be a perfect budget field watch.. i don't know why they make 'em so big, there are a few vintage models that are smaller but they aren't easy to find.. i've been wearing my snk803 for a while now and can't get it off even though i scratched it a lot and i know i won't be able to replace it when it gets realy bad since it's been discontinued..
I have 6 or 7 of these and a few that are in mint condition (non-yellow version) They are fairly easy to service need a special tool to open them without marking them. The batteries last about 15 years or so gradually the life reduces. The main issue is if you open these and the gasket is damaged you can't get a gasket anymore, I think this is why citizen does not service them anymore. I have had only one fail due to bad oil which I serviced and have been wearing for a few years now.
I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
@@destructoooo Ah yes the Yellowstone version and there is a Mt.Cook/Aoraki version too. I have the solid bracelet however I would advise against one as it will get marked and is impossible to re finish and it also damages the case better off with a fabric strap.
@@mauanderuk also the similar mont bell version. Titanium feels more comfortable on my wrist than rubber or fabric, and don't mind the scratches really, to me it's THE beater watch, and also Yellowstone holds a special place in my heart, so it'll have to be this one :).
I've just discovered your channel and I think it's fantastic. So refreshing to see a watch enthusiast that's just like interesting watches no matter what brand. Great work. Im from the UK so have the royal navy commandos version and it's 10 years old and it's just a tough no nonsense reliable watch. My since deceased brother bought it for me so I'll never get rid of it. Recently bought a PMD-56 JDM version which I love also. I'm a massive Citizen fan and love the Promaster range, particularly these land versions they're just so fit for purpose well made and unbelievably comfortable watches. Anyways keep up the good work
That's a super cool watch! I might need to hunt 1 or 2 down. Awesome opening sequence! It really creates the perfect setting, mood & appeal for one of these or another from this line.
The Titanium Promaster tough is still in current production. It is only sold in Great Britain. I recently purchased 2 of them: 1 black dial, matching titanium bracelet; 1 with navy blue dial with matching blue kevlar strap. They are both Ecodrives,,monocoq construction, 300 (!) M water resistance, 40 MM case diameter, arabic numeral dial. Marketed as “Citizen Tough.” Citizen USA was recently selling a USA version: 41 mm titanium plated ss case, no arabic numerals, WR only 200 Meters as compared to 300 M….a much lesser watch, for almost the same price.,Thank you for this mist informative review, had no idea whatsoever about the history of this design priorti your video.😊
My, no Ray Mears Citizen, which is identical to this watch, has a Kevlar strap and the blood type hardware. It's been running in my watch box for three years unworn and is keeping perfect time.
...... I've had my non Yellowstone one for nearly 20 years ..... it's on its second Kevlar strap , first one eventually wore out but the watch itself basically looks like the day it was made .... tool watch perfection that looks stunning ..........
@@MelvinHughesatp .... it was at a local watch repair shop here in Australia that were agents for Citizen .... but when I tried them recently they had no more stock ...... sad emoji .........
@@JeeGee114 I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
Still available, newest version has 300M water resistance. Look for Citizen “Ray Mears” watch reviews on You Tube for hints on how to purchase feom Britain today. 😊
Great video man! really enjoy it, i've been resisting this watch for so long! but im going to buy one soon (The current model) with the black dial, It's such a cool watch.
@3 Hand Hunter BN0118-04E black dial on a black kevlar strap rated 300m water resistant, a UK jeweler called D.C Leake ship to US if you were interested in one yourself.
I own a Royal Navy one and it's essentially my "G-Shock" watch. I think I would prefer one of those older ones just because they seem thinner. The RM is 300m WR and seems to have a thicker sapphire crystal. As to how long an ecodrive cell last, I believe Citizen states a loss of capacity of 20% each 20 years, so it's pretty much something that will last you forever and ever.
A condenser (or condensator) is the same thing as a capacitor: an electronic passive device used to store electric charge on electrodes separated by dielectric. Condenser/condensator is an obsolete term while capacitor is the prefered one, in English.
Such amazing piece, in 2 more days I'll get mine, the blue dial😋 cant wait, that's why im learning about it but there's not enough information about this ⌚ What's odd is that they only sold it Overseas, UK to be precise 🤔
that total weight - with the strap - is about the same as my G-Shock square tough solar watch - and also about the same as a Casio AW168 - which are both very light and comfortable watches
Wow the bezel of this watch looks way better than the other Promaster Tough watches. Overall it looks thinner. I wish they still made them in this size.
My nephew has this one now. It’s his daily beater and I still love it every time I see him wearing it. I agree with you 💯 about the size! Thanks for the comments! 🙏
@@threehandhunter the BN0241 2 dial versions do not seem limited editions. They are a bit expensive now, but price may come down. Not a lot of reviews around. I may sell one or both my BM6400 and get one bn0241. I just had mineral crystals and gaskets replaced by Citizen.
I have 6 models from this series and I want to collect them all. The RMC was the first in my collection and I can't stop since. One of the best watches on the market IMO. Thanks for the review and spreading the word!
I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
@@destructoooo Hi Frankie, I have one of those with titanium strap :D I have another one on the canvas strap but I wear them on NATO anyway, so I'm sometimes thniking of selling one. But the main thing is that you have to be patient and look for it all the time!
You have to pop off the crystal but I have no idea how they do it. There must be a space to access it under the bezel. But I agree with you, would have been cool as an Auto but also thicker too
I wouldn't worries about the battery. I've had my original eco drive for 22 years and it's still going strong with never being serviced and me wearing it every day. I bought a promaster tough as a present to myself 6 months ago. Fantastic watch. I had an acro prop fall on my wrist last week and hit the watch. I didn't dare look. But when I did I was shocked to see there wasn't a mark on it!
These were the real deal. Not that modern versions of these by Citizen are bad by any means, but they are cased in either China or Thailand these days and are only antimagnetic up to 4,800 Gauss - the original version was entirely made in Japan and boasted a whopping 16,000 of antimagnetic properties.
That is the real deal!
A really interesting history of the watch. I purchased a new 7828-H09971 TA with the original Kevlar strap when they first came out in 1999, as I was astonished by the design and the manufacturing attention to detail. I've always loved it but I've never worn it so it's still in as new mint condition and running perfectly as it has done for the last 20 or more years. I think I'll hang on to it as I reckon that like yours, it will become quite collectable in years to come. Great video - Thanks!
I’d agree to that! Yours sounds awesome. My nephew just inherited mine!
And thank you for the comments
this is indeed like the ultimate field watch.. a good size, solar, tough as hell, bigand easy to use crown, very legible, decent lume and a little special with the RM / Yellowstone connection.. i knew there were a few RM citizen tough watches but i haven't seen this one before. great video!..
i love field watches, but apart from timex all the budget friendly ones are big, and the timex ones tick very loud.. if casio made their mtp-s120 in 38mm in a sandblasted finish it would be a perfect budget field watch.. i don't know why they make 'em so big, there are a few vintage models that are smaller but they aren't easy to find.. i've been wearing my snk803 for a while now and can't get it off even though i scratched it a lot and i know i won't be able to replace it when it gets realy bad since it's been discontinued..
Those SNKs are classics! This one is a great size too. Thank you for the comments 👍
Interesting watch for sure. Never realized it existed, so a great video explaining its background.
Thank you sir! They are some neat little field watches!
I have 6 or 7 of these and a few that are in mint condition (non-yellow version) They are fairly easy to service need a special tool to open them without marking them. The batteries last about 15 years or so gradually the life reduces. The main issue is if you open these and the gasket is damaged you can't get a gasket anymore, I think this is why citizen does not service them anymore. I have had only one fail due to bad oil which I serviced and have been wearing for a few years now.
Wow this is great to know! I didn’t know this about the gaskets. Thanks for that info, sir!
I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
@@destructoooo Ah yes the Yellowstone version and there is a Mt.Cook/Aoraki version too. I have the solid bracelet however I would advise against one as it will get marked and is impossible to re finish and it also damages the case better off with a fabric strap.
@@mauanderuk the end link damages the case? First I have to find one first haha.
@@mauanderuk also the similar mont bell version. Titanium feels more comfortable on my wrist than rubber or fabric, and don't mind the scratches really, to me it's THE beater watch, and also Yellowstone holds a special place in my heart, so it'll have to be this one :).
I've just discovered your channel and I think it's fantastic. So refreshing to see a watch enthusiast that's just like interesting watches no matter what brand. Great work.
Im from the UK so have the royal navy commandos version and it's 10 years old and it's just a tough no nonsense reliable watch. My since deceased brother bought it for me so I'll never get rid of it. Recently bought a PMD-56 JDM version which I love also. I'm a massive Citizen fan and love the Promaster range, particularly these land versions they're just so fit for purpose well made and unbelievably comfortable watches. Anyways keep up the good work
Thank you, Phil! I appreciate the kind words. And you have the Royal navy Commandos version? That's pretty awesome to have...a keeper!
@@threehandhunter to be honest it's not the most desirable one. The one you have is, particularly in the green or blue (can't remember) dial.
@@philstadnicki7882 I did not know that! Thanks!
That's a super cool watch!
I might need to hunt 1 or 2 down.
Awesome opening sequence!
It really creates the perfect setting, mood & appeal for one of these or another from this line.
Thanks bro! These are hard to track down. My nephew took this one and he loves it. So light and so easy to wear!
The Titanium Promaster tough is still in current production. It is only sold in Great Britain. I recently purchased 2 of them: 1 black dial, matching titanium bracelet; 1 with navy blue dial with matching blue kevlar strap. They are both Ecodrives,,monocoq construction, 300 (!) M water resistance, 40 MM case diameter, arabic numeral dial. Marketed as “Citizen Tough.” Citizen USA was recently selling a USA version: 41 mm titanium plated ss case, no arabic numerals, WR only 200 Meters as compared to 300 M….a much lesser watch, for almost the same price.,Thank you for this mist informative review, had no idea whatsoever about the history of this design priorti your video.😊
Lots of great information here, thank you! It's a classic design, and my nephew has it now and he wears it daily!
My, no Ray Mears Citizen, which is identical to this watch, has a Kevlar strap and the blood type hardware. It's been running in my watch box for three years unworn and is keeping perfect time.
That’s pretty amazing 👍👍
Stunning, I've never seen this in the UK.
That is interesting, I have seen some UK sellers over the years.
...... I've had my non Yellowstone one for nearly 20 years ..... it's on its second Kevlar strap , first one eventually wore out but the watch itself basically looks like the day it was made .... tool watch perfection that looks stunning ..........
I just let me Nephew take it, he fell in love! It literally disappears on the wrist. Love that
Where were you able to find a replacement Kevlar strap? I've been looking quite a bit with no luck!
@@MelvinHughesatp .... it was at a local watch repair shop here in Australia that were agents for Citizen .... but when I tried them recently they had no more stock ...... sad emoji .........
That looks like a super nice watch! Wish it wasn't discontuned!
Right?? Thank you!
A 2018 model is still around in the UK. Without the Royal Marines logo.
@@JeeGee114 I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
Still available, newest version has 300M water resistance. Look for Citizen “Ray Mears” watch reviews on You Tube for hints on how to purchase feom Britain today. 😊
Great video man! really enjoy it, i've been resisting this watch for so long! but im going to buy one soon (The current model) with the black dial, It's such a cool watch.
It really is. You know the model number of the current one?
@3 Hand Hunter BN0118-04E black dial on a black kevlar strap rated 300m water resistant, a UK jeweler called D.C Leake ship to US if you were interested in one yourself.
@@Fr0zenP3nguin TY AJ, much appreciated!
Oh mamma! That looks so cool!
It does not disappoint!
I own a Royal Navy one and it's essentially my "G-Shock" watch. I think I would prefer one of those older ones just because they seem thinner. The RM is 300m WR and seems to have a thicker sapphire crystal. As to how long an ecodrive cell last, I believe Citizen states a loss of capacity of 20% each 20 years, so it's pretty much something that will last you forever and ever.
Great comments. I am a citizen tough fan!!
great watch. mine is 25 years old, and still perfectly working. by the way, it's not equipped with a battery, but a condensator.
Thank you for the clarification. My nephew is the proud owner of it now and he wears it daily
also called capacitor, apparently
A condenser (or condensator) is the same thing as a capacitor: an electronic passive device used to store electric charge on electrodes separated by dielectric. Condenser/condensator is an obsolete term while capacitor is the prefered one, in English.
Such amazing piece, in 2 more days I'll get mine, the blue dial😋 cant wait, that's why im learning about it but there's not enough information about this ⌚ What's odd is that they only sold it Overseas, UK to be precise 🤔
Congratulations! Blue dial will be sweet!!
that total weight - with the strap - is about the same as my G-Shock square tough solar watch - and also about the same as a Casio AW168 - which are both very light and comfortable watches
Yeah! This one is VERY comfortable. It’s amazing
Wow the bezel of this watch looks way better than the other Promaster Tough watches. Overall it looks thinner. I wish they still made them in this size.
My nephew has this one now. It’s his daily beater and I still love it every time I see him wearing it. I agree with you 💯 about the size! Thanks for the comments! 🙏
Is it possible to purchase just the trap?
You mean strap? I got it off Amazon, it is a burton strap
Nice design 👌
Future classic!!
More rare ⌚ please, 2024 new subscriber up in here now😂
You bet, and thanks for the sub!!
Do these fit smaller than 40mm?
It does for me
There is a new similar watch , promaster land with titanium bracelet available in the USA
Yeah, you are correct. There are a few different variations. Some of these special releases are getting harder to find
@@threehandhunter the BN0241 2 dial versions do not seem limited editions. They are a bit expensive now, but price may come down. Not a lot of reviews around. I may sell one or both my BM6400 and get one bn0241. I just had mineral crystals and gaskets replaced by Citizen.
Great info, thanks!@@stefpix
Thanks, Blake. Yep, I'm a watch-aholic, too!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dope, keep doin’ odd stuff. Subscribed.
Thanks, man! I will! Check out the one from today!!
Hi, is this for sale?
No, sorry. My nephew has it now
@@threehandhunter Cool.
I have 6 models from this series and I want to collect them all. The RMC was the first in my collection and I can't stop since. One of the best watches on the market IMO. Thanks for the review and spreading the word!
What are all the different model numbers? I have a BN118-55E (titanium bracelet). Cheers!!
My nephew has mine now, he wears it almost every day!
I've been looking for the Yellowstone version with the titanium bracelet for a while, do you know where I might get to buy one? I hope it's the last watch I'll ever have to buy ; ) , thanks.
@@destructoooo Hi Frankie, I have one of those with titanium strap :D I have another one on the canvas strap but I wear them on NATO anyway, so I'm sometimes thniking of selling one. But the main thing is that you have to be patient and look for it all the time!
Such a shame they didn't make an automatic version. It must be very expensive to replace the power cell in it because of the closed case back.
You have to pop off the crystal but I have no idea how they do it. There must be a space to access it under the bezel. But I agree with you, would have been cool as an Auto but also thicker too
I wouldn't worries about the battery. I've had my original eco drive for 22 years and it's still going strong with never being serviced and me wearing it every day. I bought a promaster tough as a present to myself 6 months ago. Fantastic watch. I had an acro prop fall on my wrist last week and hit the watch. I didn't dare look. But when I did I was shocked to see there wasn't a mark on it!
@@hikerd5391 That's good feedback, thank you 👍
Dude, why are you talking about Ray in the past tense ? He's still alive and making TV shows. Just not as much because he's 58 now.
Hey, in Hollywood if you are not On TV you are done and referred in past tense haha
@@threehandhunter I get the point, but Ray makes documentaries, not action blockbusters 😛
I think from all it's the only who has green lume
I didn’t know that! Thank you!
The numerals are way too large. Might turn some on, but they are comically sized in my opinion.
My nephew has this one now. It is his daily driver. He just loves it and how easy it is to read at a glance
@@threehandhunter Glad to hear! Hey, if we all liked the same watch, we'd only need one. Sounds pretty boring to me. Vive la difference!
Is not to be baught in germany.
Can't find on there?
Awesome video, love your reviews and how you take your time with everything, tried sending a DM through Instagram and no response :(...
Sorry for the delayed response!! Workity work getting in the way 🙁👍