Developing a Good Draw Stroke
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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The "reverse holstering" is a cool take on the draw stroke. I've watched some of Rob's videos, but don't recall that from before - thank you.
Who is "Rob"?
@@seanoneil277 Rob Leatham, an extremely good competitive shooter .. even saying that isn't enough to describe how good he is. Search him out here on youtube, and the rest of the interwebs.
@@VosperCDN I know who he is, thanks. I didn't know he was just "Rob" like Madonna or Cher or Fabian or Dion or Prince.
Scott Jedlinski (Modern Samurai Project) is who I'd listen to or watch for draw efficiency ideas, because to me Leatham seems less a teacher and more a doer. I don't learn from Leatham videos anything other than my impression, which is "hey, this guy has a huge ego." His career competition results are obviously impressive, for sure!
I have a book called "The Combat Auto" by Bill Wilson, and in it is a photo of Rob with an almost completed mag change, falling mag, and empty case not too far from the slide. Always thought it was one of the greatest action shots(😜) ever. Probably taken by Ichiro Nagata.🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
You’re efficient delivery of accurate, relavent, and relatable knowledge is both noted and appreciated.
I once heard:
“Slow is smooth, smooth is fast”
Or something like that and it really helps in these type of situations. Cheers from Texas , and thanks!
That saying is correct.
“Meaningful repetitions” of the draw stroke restated, is to practice many hundreds of slow & form-perfect repetitions. Neuroscience tells us this establishes muscle memory, the formation of Myelin in the brain’s neurons. This encoding by repetition enables the subconscious performance of precise motor skills. Therefore, we practice enough slow & mechanically perfect presentations of the gun that can later be performed quickly from the subconscious upon demand.
"Neuroscience" has not proved this scientifically. I agree with the idea that practice builds ability to execute.
It doesn't help anyone get better to pontificate wrongly about "neuroscience" and talking about "myelin" is just throwing around words you heard but don't understand. Please don't do that, it just complicates a simple idea.
I took my ugrad degree in Biology, and I would never talk like that about practice or skills refinement, because I know it's a big bagful of pseudoscience to say "science has proved" something that it has NOT proved clearly. Science does not prove. It DISPROVES false hypotheses.
@Sean O'Neil, couldn’t disagree with you more. Tip: You lose credibility out of the gate when you foolishly presume what you “think” others either know or don’t know. I likewise have a degree in biology (microbiology emphasis), and it’s only by dedicated countless repetitions of a correct handgun draw-stroke that I have advanced in my competencies with a gun. You chastised my mention of elements of the biology of neurological learning only to digress by alluding to the scientific method in a uncorrokated broadbrush as if it somehow refutes my prior assertions. The fact is as I’ll reiterate, that it is not voodoo magic that repetition of musculature motion just happens to establish motor skill sets, but rather, that this subconscious learning is intrinsically tied to biological (neurological) processes. In short, it’s guaranteed your brain is wired to gain motor skill competencies via purposeful repetitions of desired activities, such as slow repetitions of a draw stroke with a gun; such is incontrovertible as it is validated across the gamut of all human motor skill training. Understand I was merely providing validation to Pat Mac’s teaching. Likewise, others as Chris Sajnog, retired Navy Seal and recognized firearms expert in training top tier gunslingers from his dedication to learning & practice in the physiology of motor skills training would concur with my post.
@@Snookynibbles Lots of words, none refuting me, yet still acting superior. Let me guess -- basement ninja?
Tossing science lingo into an athletic movement discussion muddies the water UNLESS you're a bench racer. Or, perhaps, you're teaching a class of physical therapists, kinesiology research PhD candidates, etc -- and there, just as a possible shorthand.
Knowing terms such as "myelin" or "neuroscience" doesn't help one get better. Only careful, perfection-seeking practice can do that.
Unless you're bench racing.
pat could make a video of donning your socks in a tactical manner and id still probably learn something.
Meaningful repetitions. ;)
I was just thinking that same thing. He could teach anything.
Make it habitual!
I remember reading a quote attributed to the military. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast. Seems like “meaningful repetitions” is an evolution of this. Anyway, excellent series covering pistol marksmanship. Thanks!
I believe that's a quote from the seals in relation to CQB, but as a veteran and a long time wrestling coach I tell you it's fact. I've always been a big fan of practice doesn't make perfect perfect practice makes perfect. Tongue twister.
No B.S. or theatrics! Just dropping knowledge to help keep us above ground. Thanks for all your contributions and service to your country. I’ve never watched a video of Macs and been like “what a waste of time!”.
Another gem from the master, amazing times we live in where we get private lessons from experts!
Love this Celtic Warrior Brother!!!
Smoooooth and efficient. Meat and potatoes are simple and delicious. Just make them and you’ll be gooood! 💥💥💥
This guy is a wealth of knowledge, man. Come on.
It's the same principals as learning marshal arts movements. Slow is Fast, under control is fast it will all come together in time.
Getting a red dot on my pistol really showed me what I was doing wrong with my presentation. It greatly amplified everything I was doing wrong and it was easy to correct after you were able to see it
Your content and ways of teaching / instruction are unrivaled. Always appreciated! Thank you, Pat.
Practical, easily repeatable skills. Success is when preparation meets opportunity. 🤘
The trigger prep on presentation is something I see other Tier1 guys preach...that's something to work on for sure but something I would start super slow, not used to that at all.
Far too many people wait until they are basically at full presentation to get a sight picture and/or get that finger on the trigger - too much time wasted fumbling around at the end.
Like all things, you have to work up to it slowly. If you try to do it before your presentation is both repeatably solid and reasonably flat, you'll likely touch off rounds at the wrong time (too early) and that can be dangerous, as well as costly (a thrown away round at $0.35 or more each time).
You are a bad man. Even slow me got it!!! Thanks Mac.
Right at the apex of the presentation.
Excellent and simple advice, a machine, thanks
Thanks Pat for the info, and the props to Rob! He gave an explanation of pistol control on Kyle's Vtac podcast one time and sent an email asking him to please make a pistol fundamentals dvd/bluray with Rob. Kyle responded that he'd love to, I now would like to formally request it be Rob, Kyle, and Mac!!! My attention, snap caps, and money are ready!
Timing these videos so I can watch a block in the am helps set the tone and gives me the day to practice what I learned. Good teaching, Teach
Thank you for these SGM. Gold.
Pat it's a pleasure watching and learning from you,you are so smooth.rock-on🤟
one of your best videos, and i have seen many.
Love this new tid bit series out in the garden.
I have a buddy who in a LEO and he trains new recruits in my area to pass their shooting quals. He told me about a drill they use where he tapes a cup on the wall (open side towards shooter) at the exact height where their pistol is when extended and presented. Then has them draw INTO the cup. Its an awesome drill because it forces you to "push" straight out. If you are "fishing" or "bowling" at all you will knock the edge of the cup
I don't even own a firearm and still practice drawstrokes and dryfiring with my Airsoft pistol.
You never know when it will come in handy and it is relaxing.
I watch PatMac because I really like his teaching style. He doesn't only teach you how, but also WHY.
Thanks Mac, these short training videos are just awesome . Quality over quantity . Spot on, sub -consciousness is a quantum computer - remembers everything 100% every time.
Always usable data! Thank you!
Love your stuff brother. Just got into guns and competitions 2 years ago… to help me prepare for self defense scenarios. Now… I’m started to teach newbies everything I’ve learned. Watching your videos helps me confirm and refresh what I’ve learned… especially before I go teach a group. Thanks again.
Pat Mac has been killin it with these short vids !
outstanding knowledge!! thank you again!!!
Great advice !
I started this exercise awhile back because of one of your videos and I didn’t realize how messed up my draw really was. I love this method.
I have learned alot from this dude personally and through this platform. Keep hammering Mac 🤘
Great video! I think it's K not N for Knowledge but still right on!!!
Best instructional channel on UA-cam. Thanks
That was a valid and good video! Thank you
The trigger thing was a great tip. Thanks.
Excellent. Thank you
thanks for dropping the 'n' for nolidj, pat-- I appreciate the tips on acceptable sight picture and trigger finger and will incorporate that move into dry fire practice. Working through your book now, as well. rock n' roll!
Thank you
Your the best brother
Appreciate you and your time
We need all this info you putting out right now more than ever
Thank you!
This morning I need to develop a good strong case of motivation to drag my ass to work.
All those kids, looking for tuition forgiveness, might thank you?!
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@@mcasteel2112 Too many degrees in wall flower hanging, and indigenous people's basket weaving!!!
Once again, fantastic stuff my man! Thank you, this is so beneficial.
excellent video Pat thank you!
Rock & Roll!
Love these gold nuggets of clips..very helpful...Rock on
Thanks!!!
Hehe. 'N is for knowledge'. You have such a fun way of instructing
Great video! 👍👍👍💯‼
Great video
Awesome!
love it !
Awesomeness
My first basic swat class I was taught to bring finger down from above trigger to trigger as soon as target is positively identified. Because reaction is ALWAYS slower then Action
"Holstering in reverse" fuck! That just blew my world
Awesome tips. I've been tracking and performing.
Almost 20 meaningful repetitions in less than 3 minutes, amazing.
I've been drawing against time with a beeper AND video the procedure from different angles. Now there's time, accuracy and "style" to be analyzed. Value here is that all those variables forces me to think, improve and therefore execute more quality draws.
Thanks! I'm off to do some dry firing
The late Ron Avery/Tactical Performance Center Trigger Stripe Drill target is a great range or dry fire target for draw and presentation as well as helping to work thru trigger press irregularities.
Clear. Concise. Thank you.
Excellent! Fantastic presentation! :)
Thumbs up
I learned from Rob Leatham (on his channel) how much more important a tight grip is more important than trigger. "Because you're going to slap the trigger".
Rock and Roll, Sir!
N is for knowledge!!! Lmaooooo
No joke, a 1lt did, in fact say just this during cadence early one morning. Never lived it down. Been laughing at that over 20 years now
As always....good stuff.
Boom. 🇺🇸🤟
Really good video thank you sir.
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Brother Pat. You need to get with some of these clothing line manufacturers. Style is on point. Need a good recommendation for comfortable pants...enough to carry concealed with mag pouch, knife, flashlight other minor things. Wallet/credentials. I have a new assignment coming up. No uniform for a while. I’ve been trying the Carhartt pants. Really like them. Your thoughts? PatMac crowd, your thoughts?
I love you
Sight sight squeeze squeeze sight sight squeeze squeeze
Transfer what Pat are saying about slow, meaningful repatitions is the same as your boxing 1, 2
Up at 7 AM. Making habitual.
7:00? The days half over 😁
Try 4:30, son.
@@forkthepork Try 4!
@@adammosley88 Dayum.
@@MisterTwister88 I work from 12:30p-9p.
"Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast"
Brother i missed you for a day and I was low man
Thanks. Not that it matters but I agree on what you call “meaningful repetition.”
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Another great video...would like to know your opinion on cross draw carry? That's how I carry and my thought is that I don't telegraph my intent to draw as much as I do when side carry
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Pat, what brand/model holster are you using in this video?
For the peanut gallery, does anyone know what type of holster he is using?
@PatMac, what holster are you using for your Glock; I need a good concealment holster for my XDM and this is exactly what I'm looking for.
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Well, I'll be singing Billy Squires The Stroke for the day now.
When to prep the trigger is somewhat range dependent. If we’re at “bad breath distance”, I’m prepping the trigger as soon as I clear the holster.
At "bad breath distance" prepping the trigger isn't needed.
My humble opinion:
Murphy’s Law is constant and unforgiving. Reducing opportunities for Murphy should be factored in. An “acceptable sight picture” still applies at “bad breath distance.” Acceptable, to me, would mean at, let’s say 24 inches pelvis to pelvis, knowing that your muzzle from your hip is oriented to the other guy’s midsection and not your own thigh.
When I talk to people about concealed carry, I tell them there are two standards that you will have to meet every day:
- Do not shoot your self.
- Do not shoot someone you do not mean to shoot.
Those two rules still apply if your day suddenly involves shooting. Train accordingly.
@@untilvalhalla7854 your two standards are good but I think some first-hand experience with close range gun fighting might change your perspective on the practical application of those two standards. Some gun fights are truly metal-on-meat (often while rolling on the ground) - there is no opportunity for any type of sight picture under those conditions. I always get a kick out of watching NRA-certified “trainers” showing off their modified isosceles stance to punch neat little holes in a piece of paper that’s holding nice and still and making no attempt to shoot back or close with them and kill them. I don’t care how good your situational awareness is, some fights start well inside 3 meters. If your training doesn’t account for that very real possibility, I wish you all the best and will see you on the other side. Yes, watch your background for non-combatants. Yes, have enough spacial awareness to know when your muzzle is covering something you don’t want to shoot. But train to the conditions you KNOW are likely to occur in realistic situations. Bad people are predators - they use the element of surprise and avoid a “fair fight”. They want to get the drop on you. They will be “off sides” - you need to make up time in a fight. You won’t do that by settling into your stance and getting that perfect sight picture.
@@NANA-lq5md that’s a fair point. I guess it’d be more accurate to say, “I’ll be on the trigger as soon as I clear the holster”.
@@nbonner75 I would definitely be on the trigger.
Thank you for great video! What holster is that please?
My stroke is already very developed haha 😂
What holster are you using?
Anyone know the gear brands here (belt, holster, mag holder)?
What shirt do have there?
Anyone know the holster he is using???
Why don't you open carry appendix?
Dry fire on a visine bottle
I have heard many times that Rob leatham is the best out there. I can not comprehend why jerry michulek or rob vogel are not the best ones tho
All are legends!
What is your preferred pistol caliber?
How do you handle the support hand when drawing from concealment? From a day to day perspective that's likely what we would want to practice I think.
Mac has covered this previously: ua-cam.com/video/YW_GvcgIWpM/v-deo.html
Check out Mac's teammates Mike Pannone and Dutch Moyer here and on Instagram as well - good stuff regarding DFC.
Great question and Mac's video is spot on. Basically make sure support hand is still moving simultaneously as firing side hand...only you'll be safely moving concealment out of the way to access weapon. Same on reholstering...slowly... making sure NOTHING AT ALL is in the way or hindering the reholstering process