90% public approval in the poll ... nice! The wording indicates (per Daryl R's recent article) a deal that barely involves tax payers footing the bill outside of through using services in and around the area.
In their defense, NFL teams only use their stadium for like 10-11 times a year. It makes no sense for them to spend multi billions for few days. A dome could hold a number of events, bring in a lot of revenue to the city.
No your a dummy, do you know how much money they make in those 10-11 days? Alot, and who do you think makes the money off all of those events during the year? The owner
Lambeau Field - nobody says hey let’s put a dome over this thing because it snows up here. NFL is pussyfoot nowadays. Domes, Field Turf, etc. Browns should have ownership like the Packers then you don’t have this scenario happening. Don’t know what the answer is.
As far as paying homage to the muni-lot... they should designate a few acres to a huge park with tons of picnic tables, permanent grills, bathrooms, etc. You park and tote your coolers over and have your cookouts and cornhole in the huge green space. Would be really unique.
How about this interesting concept.... have the city help fund the development of kids, able bodied unemployed/homeless into teaching them a trade, then provide that newly trained subsidized labor force to build the new stadium (obviously with master tradesman overseeing the work). Revenue stays in Cleveland, local people are taught trades that they can immediately (and long term) put to use, unemployment and homeless goes down, taxible revenue goes up, local trade companies get short term cheap labor (and they can chose who to retain), stadium gets built by subsidized labor... win, win, win
@ kcanniff1 I love your concept but down to earth solutions like yours seem to make too much sense and for some reason it won't be done! it's as if the powers that be don't wan't those type citizens to succeed because that may threaten the status quo or next thing you know they will get off the reservation and move next door to me! THIS is the SAD referendum AMERICA! that We have been tryin to avoid since before the Civil War Americans! Class, Race, Politics, Prejudice and FEAR are holding us back America all these things are in play if we allowed the poor unemployed and homeless to become stakeholders then we would be obligated to include them in the so-called Democratic process which would empower people that have historic differences and ideology from the current power structure.Sadly many folks caught in the debate will never get to attend a game regardless of the stadiums location! To me that is the saddest part of the debate people like myself a senior citizen may never be able to attend a Browns game in the Stadium Dome or not one thing I will never forget is attending an Indians game at Municipal Stadium in the '60's courtesy of the YMCA in my hometown and just knowing that I was in a building where my hero # 32 had done so much was so overwhelming the wind howled that day and the stadium creaked and growled they had shutters around the upper part of the stadium that rattled in the wind it made a frightened 10 yr old from a small town scared yet I appreciated the Men who put on the uniform even more Jim Brown. Leroy Kelly Paul Warfield, Lou "the toe" Groza, Frank Ryan, Gene Hickerson, Monte Clark, Dick Shackfrath, Ernie Green Walter "the Flea " Robinson I still remember I'm showing My age but Dammit I'm A Brown's Fan For Life and NO ONE can tell me different!
There is currently a guy running for president who is an alleged billionaire so why not the Haslams? who you voting for? just kidding! not my business!
I work for r.t.a we do have a railroad line that stops at brookpark right across from the would be stadium also there is a railcar yard thats right behind the stadium but you have norfolk southern and csx lines right there it is possible to run a line on a bridge that would go right to the stadium
Sad part is they could do the exact same thing downtown along the lakefront if the idiots in charge of Cleveland for the last 50 years would pull their heads out of their asses. The city of Cleveland owns the Burke Lakefront airport.
The dawg pound section looks like it was designed from a German Pro soccer team Borrusia Dortmund. They have something similar and they call it the Yellow Wall.
I know about JTPA and a program called C.E.T.A ..... ALSO my sister attended BGSU under a program called... UPWORD BOUND! before the reverse racist try to kick in their two cents, I would like to draw the focus on WHY these type of programs and the Civil Rights Act we're desperately needed.... in America! We we're living in a near apartheid in the USA! On one hand we preached "and liberty and justice for all" on the other hand we didn't extend that premise to so - called Negroes! President Lincoln may surprise some of you to be one of my heroes but, because he UNDERSTOOD what America needed at that crucial moment in history,I admire him , but John Wilkes Booth ended Lincoln's life before he got the chance to implement his vision for reconstruction during the post war years. (I give that lesson in American History free of charge.) Study our fascinating American History on your own... we live in a great country, we have never stopped being great, so let NO ONE tell you we need to Make America Great Again! We are the Greatest Civilization on Earth!..... ANYBODY who doesn't know this is delusional..... Anyone who would want to see America crash and burn rather than survive is purely crazy!....People lining up at our borders trying to flee the impossible situations they we're trying to escape! from ,risking their lives and the lives of their kids is telling!
If the surrounding community’s came together problem solved stop looking for billionaires or elected officials to do it let’s start blaming ourselves we have the power too change plus the jobs this creates will help a lot of families
@@collinloretitsch4731 Believe what you like, but we are paying in some way, fashion, or form (grants etc.) somewhere along the dollar trail . Any city administration's money (tax payers) they may receive is our money.
So now the Browns are the first only team in the AFC North to have a dome ... in our divison.. go browns.. lets see if the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens.. follow suit and they might as well put The Elf or dog logo on the helmet now ..
It's not round, like most stadiums. Where is the "dome" part? Aren't domes supposed to be round? And there is way too much glass, when a massive snowstorm hits that area, and there's enough snow laying on that glass, that the weight of the snow begins to shatter it, then what. This looks more like a fancy concert venue than a stadium. But, it looks nice, but the glass worries me.
Hopefully, if its built, and its another long term power outage, they would alliow the taxpayers to utilize the $2bill stadium for free, since we are paying half of the price. They should have state of the art generators! Lol
SoFi is most definitely not the best in the league! When you're in your seat it's ok, but the concourse is so narrow for the amount of people there. Way too crammed!
Glad for you and the fans. But, when many people are struggling with their families and a billionaire wants my help to pay for a playpen. Not most people's priority. But to each his own.
@@clevelandroxx Possibly. But, unfortunately, to keep voluntarily accepting and paying for these blatant scams, does nothing to help stop it from continuing either.
Correction, from my understanding, they (Haslam/Browns)did not want the public to vote on this stadium, because they believed it would not pass! So, it wasn't put on a ballot for vote. So, it was not voluntary by the taxpayers.
Cool video. Yall are being manipulated. This will never be executed as displayed. As an architect I can tell you because I’ve seen how our industry uses media like this to sell you buildings and experiences that can’t be built. Look at the situation in Glendale, AZ. The ‘stadium village’ the cardinals built is SO dead the AZ Coyotes had to leave and play at ASU and the Cardinals couldn’t even sell out games when they went 11-5 a few years ago. We are going to end up with a warehouse with a translucent roof at best in a place where no one wants to go. (If anyone tells me you’d rather spend time and tailgate in Brook Park than downtown/muni lot, you’re full of crap). If they really cared about the fans they’d do this downtown. We all know they’ve got the money. This is a cheap ‘get rich(er) quick’ scam from Jimmy and the developers at the expense of the entire region and yall are falling for it.
Well, here was what I gotta say about that stadium. I'm a long time. Cleveland Browns fan been a Cleveland Browns fan since I was 8 years old period I am 68 years old now period if you can't build a stadium, a dome stadium where the state admits right now, then don't build one at all period cause that's where that's where the stadium should be? That's how I'll ground for the people of Cleveland and for all Cleveland fans around the world period so you need to build a dome stadium, right? Where it is period if you have to knock that 1 down and build a new one, then go right ahead and do it, you're gonna have all? Off-season to build a stadium period and to build a dome on it period so you can take what you have there and just put a button it period what's the sense and building a all brand new one like that stupid? Looking one that you wanted it. Looks like it doesn't look like a football stadium period I don't like it. It doesn't look like a football stadium. It looks like a NASCAR racecar stadium period it's not set up like a football stadium at all. I've never seen one like this. I don't like the design of it. I don't like the way it looks. I don't care what anybody says. You build a stadium where the stadium is now period that's hollow ground period it's been there just. Beginning period there's no sense and finding another area in Cleveland where you can build a dumb looking stadium like that. Whoever designed that statement is one stupid a** Looks like a match box period yeah, a match box that's what it looks like a match box with a hole in it period it's one of the stupidest designs of a state I've ever received if you can't come up with a good design for a stadium Hey, I can make 1 up for you period build a dome stadium in and Cleveland with the retractable roof how does that sound period wouldn't take much money or how to do it, you already got a statement's present right there already period Knock it down side by side.Whatever you want to do, but build the dome stadium right there.With a retractable roof period that's what you need period
The amount of new events we can have with this new stadium is awesome!! I cant wait to sit in the massive dogpound. Reminds me of the dortmund wall
Sports betting is horrific for both the user and the sport. Stop accepting sponsorships from these companies.
90% public approval in the poll ... nice! The wording indicates (per Daryl R's recent article) a deal that barely involves tax payers footing the bill outside of through using services in and around the area.
Build the dome
Let’s go! Great new stadium and a cool design. Let’s just appreciate a new stadium.
wrestlemania will definitely be there
The view of the Brookpark skyline will be breathtaking 😂.
In their defense, NFL teams only use their stadium for like 10-11 times a year. It makes no sense for them to spend multi billions for few days. A dome could hold a number of events, bring in a lot of revenue to the city.
You pretty smart mate😂😂
To brookpark, not cleveland.
No your a dummy, do you know how much money they make in those 10-11 days? Alot, and who do you think makes the money off all of those events during the year? The owner
@@timl4775 Exactly. And even open air stadiums can host concerts during the summer or pro wrestling events, etc.
Just imagine watching away games in that thing watch parties like for the cavs 🔥🤘🏾
Looks cooler than the Chicago Bear's rendering of their stadium.
Lambeau Field - nobody says hey let’s put a dome over this thing because it snows up here. NFL is pussyfoot nowadays. Domes, Field Turf, etc. Browns should have ownership like the Packers then you don’t have this scenario happening. Don’t know what the answer is.
As far as paying homage to the muni-lot... they should designate a few acres to a huge park with tons of picnic tables, permanent grills, bathrooms, etc. You park and tote your coolers over and have your cookouts and cornhole in the huge green space. Would be really unique.
How about this interesting concept.... have the city help fund the development of kids, able bodied unemployed/homeless into teaching them a trade, then provide that newly trained subsidized labor force to build the new stadium (obviously with master tradesman overseeing the work). Revenue stays in Cleveland, local people are taught trades that they can immediately (and long term) put to use, unemployment and homeless goes down, taxible revenue goes up, local trade companies get short term cheap labor (and they can chose who to retain), stadium gets built by subsidized labor... win, win, win
@ kcanniff1 I love your concept but down to earth solutions like yours seem to make too much sense and for some reason it won't be done! it's as if the powers that be don't wan't those type citizens to succeed because that may threaten the status quo or next thing you know they will get off the reservation and move next door to me! THIS is the SAD referendum AMERICA! that We have been tryin to avoid since before the Civil War Americans! Class, Race, Politics, Prejudice and FEAR are holding us back America all these things are in play if we allowed the poor unemployed and homeless to become stakeholders then we would be obligated to include them in the so-called Democratic process which would empower people that have historic differences and ideology from the current power structure.Sadly many folks caught in the debate will never get to attend a game regardless of the stadiums location! To me that is the saddest part of the debate people like myself a senior citizen may never be able to attend a Browns game in the Stadium Dome or not one thing I will never forget is attending an Indians game at Municipal Stadium in the '60's courtesy of the YMCA in my hometown and just knowing that I was in a building where my hero # 32 had done so much was so overwhelming the wind howled that day and the stadium creaked and growled they had shutters around the upper part of the stadium that rattled in the wind it made a frightened 10 yr old from a small town scared yet I appreciated the Men who put on the uniform even more Jim Brown. Leroy Kelly Paul Warfield, Lou "the toe" Groza, Frank Ryan, Gene Hickerson, Monte Clark, Dick Shackfrath, Ernie Green Walter "the Flea " Robinson I still remember I'm showing My age but Dammit I'm A Brown's Fan For Life and NO ONE can tell me different!
Holy Moly Haslams want the best! Gonna bring in loads of Money 💰💰 for the Billionaires and the city of Broopark Go Haslams!
There is currently a guy running for president who is an alleged billionaire so why not the Haslams? who you voting for? just kidding! not my business!
Hey you guys are forgetting the red line already travels there
Well done G Bush
I work for r.t.a we do have a railroad line that stops at brookpark right across from the would be stadium also there is a railcar yard thats right behind the stadium but you have norfolk southern and csx lines right there it is possible to run a line on a bridge that would go right to the stadium
Sad part is they could do the exact same thing downtown along the lakefront if the idiots in charge of Cleveland for the last 50 years would pull their heads out of their asses. The city of Cleveland owns the Burke Lakefront airport.
The dawg pound section looks like it was designed from a German Pro soccer team Borrusia Dortmund. They have something similar and they call it the Yellow Wall.
Not a fan of the design but I love the move.
Wow, the first time I heard somebody in 3 decades mentioned the word Job Training Partnership America (JTPA).
I know about JTPA and a program called C.E.T.A ..... ALSO my sister attended BGSU under a program called... UPWORD BOUND! before the reverse racist try to kick in their two cents, I would like to draw the focus on WHY these type of programs and the Civil Rights Act we're desperately needed.... in America! We we're living in a near apartheid in the USA! On one hand we preached "and liberty and justice for all" on the other hand we didn't extend that premise to so - called Negroes! President Lincoln may surprise some of you to be one of my heroes but, because he UNDERSTOOD what America needed at that crucial moment in history,I admire him , but John Wilkes Booth ended Lincoln's life before he got the chance to implement his vision for reconstruction during the post war years. (I give that lesson in American History free of charge.) Study our fascinating American History on your own... we live in a great country, we have never stopped being great, so let NO ONE tell you we need to Make America Great Again! We are the Greatest Civilization on Earth!..... ANYBODY who doesn't know this is delusional..... Anyone who would want to see America crash and burn rather than survive is purely crazy!....People lining up at our borders trying to flee the impossible situations they we're trying to escape! from ,risking their lives and the lives of their kids is telling!
Give the Browns a dome that they can call home where the games aren't rainy or snowing.😂
They've just hosted SummerSlam and WrestleMania is just around the corner
What ' playoffs are almost over' according to Fan Duel?
Government money has never helped or solved poverty and never will. Billionaires should pay for their own stadiums. Go Browns!
If the surrounding community’s came together problem solved stop looking for billionaires or elected officials to do it let’s start blaming ourselves we have the power too change plus the jobs this creates will help a lot of families
@@collinloretitsch4731 Believe what you like, but we are paying in some way, fashion, or form (grants etc.) somewhere along the dollar trail . Any city administration's money (tax payers) they may receive is our money.
@@beachwoodbisonman*communities
So now the Browns are the first only team in the AFC North to have a dome ... in our divison.. go browns.. lets see if the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens.. follow suit and they might as well put The Elf or dog logo on the helmet now ..
It’s all private money. No tax.
slightly, the money is given upfront with bonds meaning the city will get the money back from the events instead of a extra tax -
It's not round, like most stadiums. Where is the "dome" part? Aren't domes supposed to be round? And there is way too much glass, when a massive snowstorm hits that area, and there's enough snow laying on that glass, that the weight of the snow begins to shatter it, then what. This looks more like a fancy concert venue than a stadium. But, it looks nice, but the glass worries me.
It’s the same as the stadium in Minnesota where the Vikings play (as far as the glass goes anyway )
Hopefully, if its built, and its another long term power outage, they would alliow the taxpayers to utilize the $2bill stadium for free, since we are paying half of the price. They should have state of the art generators! Lol
the hate adam bull gets is the hate jason lloyd is supposed to get
its bonds so its not a extra tax just borrowing money
They are grants that will be paid back by higher taxes at and around the stadium
If I hear this glass top covered indoor stadium referred to as a dome one more time... architecturally there is zero to support calling it a dome.
Thank you! +1 Driving me nuts. It’s just a roof. A glass roof. Not a dome.
More trees
SoFi is most definitely not the best in the league! When you're in your seat it's ok, but the concourse is so narrow for the amount of people there. Way too crammed!
Power Outage for approx 300,000 people, but let's spend money on over $2 billion for a stadium. Priorities??? Lol😊
I still don’t have power but that video made me very happy!!
Glad for you and the fans. But, when many people are struggling with their families and a billionaire wants my help to pay for a playpen. Not most people's priority. But to each his own.
@@rpippen3455 Been that way since forever. Not gonna change any time soon. Complaining about it does nothing.
@@clevelandroxx Possibly. But, unfortunately, to keep voluntarily accepting and paying for these blatant scams, does nothing to help stop it from continuing either.
Correction, from my understanding, they (Haslam/Browns)did not want the public to vote on this stadium, because they believed it would not pass! So, it wasn't put on a ballot for vote. So, it was not voluntary by the taxpayers.
The new BROWNS stadium hopefully with a retractable roof looks like a Cabela's or a Bass Pro Shop 👍
Let go of the past. Domes are the future and the architecture is gorgeous
@@wilsondamian0 I certainly don't mind a dome for the new stadium, I would prefer a dome with a retractable roof
@@MrCHAIRMANOFTHEBORED I would be fine with that but it looks like that’s not happening. Anything is okay as long as it’s not an open air stadium
From what I've heard reports wise, it would be way more for a retractable roof
Awful what is this needed for ..the current stadium has 30 years left in it ..waste of money and cash grab by lerner
Jason, Brook Park and Cleveland are not the same city 😅
I'm not feel having a dome!
Cool video.
Yall are being manipulated.
This will never be executed as displayed. As an architect I can tell you because I’ve seen how our industry uses media like this to sell you buildings and experiences that can’t be built. Look at the situation in Glendale, AZ. The ‘stadium village’ the cardinals built is SO dead the AZ Coyotes had to leave and play at ASU and the Cardinals couldn’t even sell out games when they went 11-5 a few years ago.
We are going to end up with a warehouse with a translucent roof at best in a place where no one wants to go. (If anyone tells me you’d rather spend time and tailgate in Brook Park than downtown/muni lot, you’re full of crap).
If they really cared about the fans they’d do this downtown. We all know they’ve got the money. This is a cheap ‘get rich(er) quick’ scam from Jimmy and the developers at the expense of the entire region and yall are falling for it.
As much as I hate the Clowns, they will have a stadium that is arguably second to NONE. But don't be surprised if it doesn't get done.
Well, here was what I gotta say about that stadium. I'm a long time. Cleveland Browns fan been a Cleveland Browns fan since I was 8 years old period I am 68 years old now period if you can't build a stadium, a dome stadium where the state admits right now, then don't build one at all period cause that's where that's where the stadium should be? That's how I'll ground for the people of Cleveland and for all Cleveland fans around the world period so you need to build a dome stadium, right? Where it is period if you have to knock that 1 down and build a new one, then go right ahead and do it, you're gonna have all? Off-season to build a stadium period and to build a dome on it period so you can take what you have there and just put a button it period what's the sense and building a all brand new one like that stupid? Looking one that you wanted it. Looks like it doesn't look like a football stadium period I don't like it. It doesn't look like a football stadium. It looks like a NASCAR racecar stadium period it's not set up like a football stadium at all. I've never seen one like this. I don't like the design of it. I don't like the way it looks. I don't care what anybody says. You build a stadium where the stadium is now period that's hollow ground period it's been there just. Beginning period there's no sense and finding another area in Cleveland where you can build a dumb looking stadium like that. Whoever designed that statement is one stupid a** Looks like a match box period yeah, a match box that's what it looks like a match box with a hole in it period it's one of the stupidest designs of a state I've ever received if you can't come up with a good design for a stadium Hey, I can make 1 up for you period build a dome stadium in and Cleveland with the retractable roof how does that sound period wouldn't take much money or how to do it, you already got a statement's present right there already period Knock it down side by side.Whatever you want to do, but build the dome stadium right there.With a retractable roof period that's what you need period