We run 2 of these civics. Easily achieve that fuel economy, but what he didn't mention is quality of the driving experience!! Civic is much much better than a golf. Very punchy performance very good handling refinement, boot capacity much more than golf. Golf is a good car but face-lift civic sport far better, why can't honda ever get proper recognition???
I managed to squeeze 74 out of mine on an hour and a half journey, mainly rural roads and motorway, mind you I'm from Yorkshire and I like to get my moneys worth. He's right though drive sensible, it's better for everything, I laugh at drivers racing around.
I get high sixties or low seventies in my Civic, mixed urban, A/B roads and motorway once a week to keep the DPF clear. Great boot with magic seats and super handling. Golfs are lovely cars and more conventional to drive and look at. The quality of fittings like carpets and upholstery are better in VW cars as well.
Forgot to give our engine requirements. Oil: 5w30. Diesel: 50 ppm. Tyre pressure as per manual: 2.2 bar. Claimed economy is 4.1 litres/100km. Real life i get about 5.6 litres/100 km. I have tried various tyres pressures. I just want to see if there are any differences in the uk to sa. Thanks in advance
The oil type is fine and shouldn’t make a massive difference. I’m not sure what grade of fuel is used to be perfectly honest. Tyre pressures are 33psi. If your not getting good economy as I say in the video the first thing to look at it yourself and that’s not a criticism of you. Smooth driving and changing up early is essential to good economy. Where you drive, when you drive too. So heavy traffic and hilly areas etc. beyond that if your still struggling then check the engine air filter is clean and most importantly your brakes aren’t binding even by the slightest amount
great help... been looking at 1.6 for 43 mile fast country lane journey and back day in day out and cant come up with anything more suitable ... i run a 1.5 diesel at moment that gives 41 mpg and use a webasto on red diesel to pre or fast heat engine or quick defrost and cabin heat ...this definitely improves mpg and 5 litres does over a 2 months in summer and a month in winter. sounds like it would be worth transferring to civic
Good advice, many people drive in a manner that drastically increases fuel consumption. Everyone likes a bit of fast fun from time to time but if you want to keep money in your wallet drive the car in a manner it was designed to accomplish. In the Civic there are many aids that help you. The gear change indicator and the blue to green instrument display help inexperienced drivers.
I have the 2.2 diesel, I wanted the N22 because the difference is the smoothness compared to the N16 which requires more active shifting, the power band is just smaller. I also carry loads and people and you can just feel the N22 has more "oempff" . Great engines. I do long trips 80 to 90 mph on cruise, AC on and still achieve 50mpg, which is very very good. Much better than any of the competition! On the Autobahn with speeds over 90 mph the mpg drops to 30-33. So then the small tank does not provide much range for a diesel.
Hi, thanks, it’s now 5 months later, the weather still isn’t getting much above 10 deg. C. I’m getting anything from 63mpg to 70mpg over my 50 mile return commute of mainly country lanes plus a tiny 3 mile dual carriageway/bridge. I use the green mode, I don’t dawdle, but I don’t rag it, either, not sure whether I’m getting it quite right.These figures are also based on brim to brim filling, rather than the computer figures which are about 15 percent optimistic. Anyway, the gist of this is, the car is all the car I need. It’s quick when I want it to be, the torque being particularly impressive, it soaks up bumps that I didn’t expect it to do, it’s quiet and smooth, especially at speed and it’s roomy, with a gargantuan boot. Not wanting to compare it to the ubiquitous VW Golf, but I can’t help it…based on a hire car (Golf 1.6tdi) I had a few years back, this seems more impressive, and a fair bit quicker. Looks are dividing, but this 17 plate model looks really good in silver, sporty and with loads of toys, I’m chuffed to bits with it. The meter easily tops 71mpg, but in reality I’m getting, on average, 64+, brilliant. Thanks for the great video, very informative. Anyone considering one of these, just go out and get it, it’s a Honda, too, guaranteed reliability!
@@MM-pb1sehi there, I’ve had it 3 years now. The only thing that has gone on it other than wear and tear is a battery. It was quick, one minute it was working fine with stop start, the next the start stop wouldn’t work too well. Stupidly I had left the lights on when I went for a 1 hour interview and the battery was dead. I bought a high power stop start battery which cost £84 on Amazon and it took me 5 minutes to replace (sad of me, I timed it!). The last MOT failed (only one so far)on a cracked tyre surface, inner, so it couldn’t be seen. I’d had two tyres recently changed on the front, so I had the two rears replaced plus two discs and pads at the rear and pads at the front. So a few quid spent, but it’s like a new car. I bought servicing with the car 3 years ago, but with issues getting around to. Poking it, I gave up on the second set of servicing and have done it myself ever since. No stamps in the book might not go down too well for resale, but I’ve already noticed that Arnold Clark hadn’t changed the air filter or cabin filter when they serviced it (possibly before I bought it too, as they were original ones with a 2016 date stamp…. And it was black!!). I’m happier with my servicing, to be fair. Re the economy of this engine, it’s unreal, Christmas 2022, my wife and I travelled from just north of Forfar, Angus to Mousehole near to Lands End, onto Aylesbury in Bucks and back to Forfar over a period of 4 days and managed a genuine 75mpg overall, incredible. So, in summary, it’s the best car I’ve had and I’ve had a few including Audis, VWs, BMWs, Fords and Toyotas, but this has been the complete package. I’ll just keep it until it dies, I think!
Hi there, I watch all your videos and really respect your opinion on cars and feel your very honest in your business ventures, quick question, I’ve had a 2014 civic 1.6 diesel estate se plus, I sold it 3 years ago and bought a Lexus is300h FSport, I’m thinking trading my Lexus and buying buying a 10th gen civic 1.6 diesel ex with tech pack. Do you think it’s a good move?…
They are very tough and reliable with good regular servicing. Not much really goes wrong with them. We have done a couple of alternators and obviously batteries. But engines and boxes are very good. It’s all about the way the cars been kept. Performance is pretty good too and economy excellent as you can see from the video. There is loads of data on the internet Maybe look one up for sale on autotrader and go into the technical details and performance and it will give all you need
@@tommyzoo thank you very much! Yeah I can find figures pretty easily but I find that all pretty relative and theoretical, as opposed to a more organic feedback from actual owners
Hi. I'm from South Africa and I've watched many videos of the economy in the UK and you guys get way more than me. What I would like to know is what engine oil do you use? What is the tyre pressure? What grade of diesel are you using? 10 ppm or 50 ppm?
the menu button on the steering wheel under the volumn control allows you to display different figures and you can select average mpg. The small black button that protrudes out of the lower instrument binnacle can be pressed to select two different trip and if you hold it in it also resets it. It also can be turned to brighten or dim the dash lights !!
It'd be great to see this same exercise done with a CR-Z sometime; people appear to have varying reports of how economical they are, though a major factor would be constantly running in Sport mode which obviously hits economy. My old five-speed 1.6 208 generally - over mostly single-carriageway A-roads - gets somewhere in the 60s, but is certainly temperature-sensitive. I remember getting just below 70mpg over a two day trip including mostly motorway driving thanks to decent weather and relatively light traffic, and I don't doubt that the Civic with its sixth ratio can do similarly.
I have a CR-Z, and I think the problem most people have, is that they don't know how to drive a hybrid for maximum fuel efficiency. It requires a different driving style to any other combustion engine. You definitely have to develop the knack for it. Get up to speed quickly, and then ease off and maintain speed with as little input as possible. I average anywhere from 5.5 to 6.5 l/100km, depending on weather and driving style. Car is definitely susceptible to headwind and rain, and if you drive it in anything other than sport mode on the motorway, you will be fighting it all the way, because it feels like it actively WANTS to slow down. Because it has a bar that show you real time fuel consumption, you're constantly struggling to find the sweet spot between keeping the speed constant, and keeping the consumption from blowing up. It's a nice car, but I do mostly motorway, so I'm thinking of getting rid of it, as I'm tired of being constantly overtaken while trying to keep the economy in check.
Thinking off getting the 1.8 sport as the petrol Honda its a legend Honda diesel hum I should get away from it the 2.2 was not good don’t really know about 1.6 but any modern diesel in general are good In mpg but not bullet prof
Your one is real world scientific. Observable, measurable and repeatable. So your experiement is scientific. Theirs is optimistic theoretical values which are pointless.
We run 2 of these civics. Easily achieve that fuel economy, but what he didn't mention is quality of the driving experience!! Civic is much much better than a golf. Very punchy performance very good handling refinement, boot capacity much more than golf. Golf is a good car but face-lift civic sport far better, why can't honda ever get proper recognition???
the Golf is indeed a good car but the motoring press have a bias for them based on car from years before
This test drive was very helpful. Thanks for taking the time and trouble of making it. True mpg test and great results for the civic 1.6 dtec engine.
You’re welcome!
if only more reviews did this - drive it like the real world and get the correct MPG - well done
These really do sip the Diesel .. 62.5 mpg average on a 969 mile trip from Bristol to Europe .. mines on 80k '65 plate Civic tourer 1.6 i-DTEC
Jon have you had any DPF issues or Glow plugs seizing …thinking of getting the 1.6 dtec cheers in advance
Great advice. That I-DTEC is an incredibly economical engine
Great videos and reviews. Subscribed 👍
Civic was ahead of it's competitors in regards to diesels at this time no doubt
I managed to squeeze 74 out of mine on an hour and a half journey, mainly rural roads and motorway, mind you I'm from Yorkshire and I like to get my moneys worth. He's right though drive sensible, it's better for everything, I laugh at drivers racing around.
74 is nuts. What an awesome engine
On perfect condition warm day flat dual carriage way I got 75 mpg at 70mph my car was a 2014 estate 1.6 diesel.
I get high sixties or low seventies in my Civic, mixed urban, A/B roads and motorway once a week to keep the DPF clear. Great boot with magic seats and super handling. Golfs are lovely cars and more conventional to drive and look at. The quality of fittings like carpets and upholstery are better in VW cars as well.
My CRV 1.6 diesel gave similar mpg, great car nice drive and huge boot.
Forgot to give our engine requirements. Oil: 5w30. Diesel: 50 ppm. Tyre pressure as per manual: 2.2 bar. Claimed economy is 4.1 litres/100km. Real life i get about 5.6 litres/100 km. I have tried various tyres pressures. I just want to see if there are any differences in the uk to sa. Thanks in advance
The oil type is fine and shouldn’t make a massive difference. I’m not sure what grade of fuel is used to be perfectly honest. Tyre pressures are 33psi.
If your not getting good economy as I say in the video the first thing to look at it yourself and that’s not a criticism of you. Smooth driving and changing up early is essential to good economy. Where you drive, when you drive too. So heavy traffic and hilly areas etc. beyond that if your still struggling then check the engine air filter is clean and most importantly your brakes aren’t binding even by the slightest amount
great help... been looking at 1.6 for 43 mile fast country lane journey and back day in day out and cant come up with anything more suitable ...
i run a 1.5 diesel at moment that gives 41 mpg and use a webasto on red diesel to pre or fast heat engine or quick defrost and cabin heat ...this definitely improves mpg and 5 litres does over a 2 months in summer and a month in winter.
sounds like it would be worth transferring to civic
Good advice, many people drive in a manner that drastically increases fuel consumption. Everyone likes a bit of fast fun from time to time but if you want to keep money in your wallet drive the car in a manner it was designed to accomplish. In the Civic there are many aids that help you. The gear change indicator and the blue to green instrument display help inexperienced drivers.
I have the 2.2 diesel, I wanted the N22 because the difference is the smoothness compared to the N16 which requires more active shifting, the power band is just smaller. I also carry loads and people and you can just feel the N22 has more "oempff" . Great engines. I do long trips 80 to 90 mph on cruise, AC on and still achieve 50mpg, which is very very good. Much better than any of the competition! On the Autobahn with speeds over 90 mph the mpg drops to 30-33. So then the small tank does not provide much range for a diesel.
thanks for making these.
please say what year this was manufactured. would be great f you put that info in all video titles
Many thanks, good video, just bought one of these based partly on this video, I get it delivered next week, Christmas Eve, 2020!
Fantastic!! Great car. Enjoy it
Hi, thanks, it’s now 5 months later, the weather still isn’t getting much above 10 deg. C. I’m getting anything from 63mpg to 70mpg over my 50 mile return commute of mainly country lanes plus a tiny 3 mile dual carriageway/bridge. I use the green mode, I don’t dawdle, but I don’t rag it, either, not sure whether I’m getting it quite right.These figures are also based on brim to brim filling, rather than the computer figures which are about 15 percent optimistic. Anyway, the gist of this is, the car is all the car I need. It’s quick when I want it to be, the torque being particularly impressive, it soaks up bumps that I didn’t expect it to do, it’s quiet and smooth, especially at speed and it’s roomy, with a gargantuan boot. Not wanting to compare it to the ubiquitous VW Golf, but I can’t help it…based on a hire car (Golf 1.6tdi) I had a few years back, this seems more impressive, and a fair bit quicker. Looks are dividing, but this 17 plate model looks really good in silver, sporty and with loads of toys, I’m chuffed to bits with it. The meter easily tops 71mpg, but in reality I’m getting, on average, 64+, brilliant. Thanks for the great video, very informative. Anyone considering one of these, just go out and get it, it’s a Honda, too, guaranteed reliability!
Have you had any issues with it so far?
@@MM-pb1sehi there, I’ve had it 3 years now. The only thing that has gone on it other than wear and tear is a battery. It was quick, one minute it was working fine with stop start, the next the start stop wouldn’t work too well. Stupidly I had left the lights on when I went for a 1 hour interview and the battery was dead. I bought a high power stop start battery which cost £84 on Amazon and it took me 5 minutes to replace (sad of me, I timed it!). The last MOT failed (only one so far)on a cracked tyre surface, inner, so it couldn’t be seen. I’d had two tyres recently changed on the front, so I had the two rears replaced plus two discs and pads at the rear and pads at the front. So a few quid spent, but it’s like a new car. I bought servicing with the car 3 years ago, but with issues getting around to. Poking it, I gave up on the second set of servicing and have done it myself ever since. No stamps in the book might not go down too well for resale, but I’ve already noticed that Arnold Clark hadn’t changed the air filter or cabin filter when they serviced it (possibly before I bought it too, as they were original ones with a 2016 date stamp…. And it was black!!). I’m happier with my servicing, to be fair. Re the economy of this engine, it’s unreal, Christmas 2022, my wife and I travelled from just north of Forfar, Angus to Mousehole near to Lands End, onto Aylesbury in Bucks and back to Forfar over a period of 4 days and managed a genuine 75mpg overall, incredible. So, in summary, it’s the best car I’ve had and I’ve had a few including Audis, VWs, BMWs, Fords and Toyotas, but this has been the complete package. I’ll just keep it until it dies, I think!
Most Helpful .Thanks for a frank real world assessment.
Its Great Car i have Honda Civic tourer 1.6, 2014 ...
I have a civic tourer , great car but quite tricky to get comfortable in and the standard infotainment is pretty poor.
Hi there, I watch all your videos and really respect your opinion on cars and feel your very honest in your business ventures, quick question, I’ve had a 2014 civic 1.6 diesel estate se plus, I sold it 3 years ago and bought a Lexus is300h FSport, I’m thinking trading my Lexus and buying buying a 10th gen civic 1.6 diesel ex with tech pack. Do you think it’s a good move?…
I'm looking to buy one of these in the near future. Any insights on the reliability and performance? I'm struggling to find information
They are very tough and reliable with good regular servicing. Not much really goes wrong with them. We have done a couple of alternators and obviously batteries. But engines and boxes are very good.
It’s all about the way the cars been kept. Performance is pretty good too and economy excellent as you can see from the video. There is loads of data on the internet
Maybe look one up for sale on autotrader and go into the technical details and performance and it will give all you need
@@tommyzoo thank you very much! Yeah I can find figures pretty easily but I find that all pretty relative and theoretical, as opposed to a more organic feedback from actual owners
Hi. I'm from South Africa and I've watched many videos of the economy in the UK and you guys get way more than me. What I would like to know is what engine oil do you use? What is the tyre pressure? What grade of diesel are you using? 10 ppm or 50 ppm?
Are these diesel 1.6 dtec engines very loud?
@@abdulshohid6298 they only
Usually sound loud or diesely at lower speeds and idle. On the move and cruising they are generally quiet
Could you tell me how to check the average mpg on my civic I can't find it at all thanks
the menu button on the steering wheel under the volumn control allows you to display different figures and you can select average mpg. The small black button that protrudes out of the lower instrument binnacle can be pressed to select two different trip and if you hold it in it also resets it. It also can be turned to brighten or dim the dash lights !!
Very helpful. Thank you
Is the 1.4 petrol good on fuel consumption? usually i would prefer the diesel but i don't believe this engine is ulez compliant.
Yes it’s very good on fuel but so is the 1.8 which is the nicer engine in this car
@@tommyzoo Thanks I'll look into it some more.
It'd be great to see this same exercise done with a CR-Z sometime; people appear to have varying reports of how economical they are, though a major factor would be constantly running in Sport mode which obviously hits economy.
My old five-speed 1.6 208 generally - over mostly single-carriageway A-roads - gets somewhere in the 60s, but is certainly temperature-sensitive. I remember getting just below 70mpg over a two day trip including mostly motorway driving thanks to decent weather and relatively light traffic, and I don't doubt that the Civic with its sixth ratio can do similarly.
When I get another in I will do a fuel economy test
I have a CR-Z, and I think the problem most people have, is that they don't know how to drive a hybrid for maximum fuel efficiency. It requires a different driving style to any other combustion engine. You definitely have to develop the knack for it. Get up to speed quickly, and then ease off and maintain speed with as little input as possible.
I average anywhere from 5.5 to 6.5 l/100km, depending on weather and driving style. Car is definitely susceptible to headwind and rain, and if you drive it in anything other than sport mode on the motorway, you will be fighting it all the way, because it feels like it actively WANTS to slow down. Because it has a bar that show you real time fuel consumption, you're constantly struggling to find the sweet spot between keeping the speed constant, and keeping the consumption from blowing up.
It's a nice car, but I do mostly motorway, so I'm thinking of getting rid of it, as I'm tired of being constantly overtaken while trying to keep the economy in check.
Thinking off getting the 1.8 sport as the petrol Honda its a legend Honda diesel hum I should get away from it the 2.2 was not good don’t really know about 1.6 but any modern diesel in general are good In mpg but not bullet prof
I’ve heard the 1.6 is much smoother and quieter. I hope so, because I’ve just bought one to replace my very quiet 2007 Honda Accord 2.0 se petrol
Whats wrong with the 2.2 apart from the clutch also the engine is really quite compared to any other diesel hatchback in the same year
@@V17END Squeaky clutches and expensive flywheels is all I know goes wrong with 2.2 Civics
@@Mr330d That's unfortunate, I thought they'd fixed the clutch and DMF issues with the facelifted eight generation.
1.6D best engine ever! i got 2.9l /100km @ 90kmh. Remove all dpf etc.
Your one is real world scientific. Observable, measurable and repeatable. So your experiement is scientific. Theirs is optimistic theoretical values which are pointless.