Maybe they will all get their hidden ability like it was when you transfered pokémon from the virtual consol to home since in both games they don't have abilities to begin with That's my hope tbh ^^
Shouldn‘t it theoretically be possible to acquire a HA Scyther in Gen 9, transfer that to PLA once Home accessibility is there, evolve said Scyther in PLA and then transfer back the Kleavor?
@@GamerJulian94 usually you are unable to transfer mons from a later gen back to a previous gen However, I suppose we’ll be able to confirm once Home releases
Definitely a Kleavor fan, I was very excited to use one in Legends Arceus, and even though it kind of died a lot, it was still a good teammate, and is one of my favorite Pokémon
It's a rough toss-up for me, because Scizor is such a classic cool 'Mon, sleek look and design, and has always been one of my favorite Bug-types, but Kleavor literally has GIANT AXES FOR HANDS, so you can see the bind I'm in 😅
Scyther should have a third evolution since Scizor is Scissor and Kleavor is Rock. The Third evo should be a Paper evolution with a Grass/Bug typing and named Slashor
Both Scizor and Kleavor are great! I feel like Im actually leaning towards Kleavor though. Both their shinies are clean as well and I love green. Each fit their own design.
I remember when scissor was the most played Pokémon in competitive battles. Really made me fear priority attacks and pursuit users cause it felt like a crap shoot whether I was going to get revenge killed before landing a hit or get picked off while trying to switch out.
It's Salamence's fault. Scizor was used as much as it was because it was one of the best offensive checks to it. Its usage dropped once Mence was banned to Ubers. The added utility of Pursuit and U-Turn also helps. Bug/Steel is just amazing typing.
While I haven't obtained my own copy of Legends Arceus, I like Scizor more in terms of design. In previous games, I wasn't a fan of shiny Scizor's coloration. I wished that it was black. However, in Scarlet & Violet, shiny Scizor looks good.
Klevor is cool having a move that set's up entry hazard's which can also be used for damage is something really cool and we have never seen before *SHUT UP H-SAMOROTT*
Gameplay wise, these two play very different. Kleavor is your lead, getting stealth rocks up that opponents can’t block with Gholdengo or magic bounce. Scizor, on the other hand, is a finisher with bullet punch and swords dance. The two play pretty nicely together on the same team.
In case of scizor you just add steel type to scyther by removing flying type though it can have some flying type moves, just changing it Same applies to kleavor just into rock type
It’s hard to decide between the two pokemon… Scizor will always be a classic, but both designs look SUPER COOL IMO. Based on their shiny forms tho, I’ll go with Scizor. It just has a cleaner and more stylish look than a dark green Kleavor. But for their regular forms, ima have to say it’s a tie! Based on design, that is. If I had to pick one based on their stats, I’m picking Scizor. But it also just depends on which type I’m going up against. So I’ll probably take both 😅
Scizor all the way. Its design is cooler, its type combination is better, and I would absolutely use one in games other than Legends: Arceus if it weren't a trade evolution.
Goes to show how good an ability Technician is. All those moves served up by the Metronome tended to pack lower power, so Scizor gets a lot out of them.
I absolutely love Kleavor far more than Scizor. There's just something about it being just that bit faster and it's design looking so great that gets me
Personally, I... honestly dont really have a preference. I mostly like both Scizor and Kleavor, but Scizor falls behind overall for me since it's so simple. I know that's not its fault cause it's just an early Pokémon, but that doesn't make me like it more. I like Kleavor's design more overall, but the head is a problem. I really dont like when Pokémon have human hair. I get that it's a samurai haircut, so I'm actually okay with the top.. rock? But whatever, cause the beard and unibrow are downright strange. It does work to make it lookmore gruff and aggressive, but still. I love both designs, but they both have their own shortcomings, so I just can't pick. Sharpness Kleavor does sound fun, though.
If your choosing the evolution you should pick cleaver since Scissors base stat total is the same as scyther it just has better abilities and stuff making it a evolution
I personally prefer Kleavor as it actually looks like an evolution for Scyther. Scizor is ok, but I honestly had no idea it was an evolution of a Pokemon, when I first saw it, let alone Scyther! The crab claws are super weird too. Sharp blades to a clamp is a strange progression.
That intro almost went NSFW real quick 😂 I definitely prefer Kleavor to Scizor. Not that Scizor is bad, I still like it, but between the two I have a preference for Kleavor.
I don't particularly care for any of the scyther evolutions personally. Kleavor is the worst looking of all the pokemon added in Legends and I just never liked that Scizor was red or that it changed the cool blade arms for crab claws.
To be fair, it could reduce damage taken from Low Kick but here, yeah, it's pretty useless since Scizor isn't weak to the move for one, and it doesn't take a whole lot of damage from it either.
Scizor is my favorite Pokémon of all time, so I’m glad it won. But Kleavor is outstanding in its own right, and I’m excited to see it in game later on.
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For the sleeping mon avoiding thing I always picture that at the last second the sleeping mon just rolls over causing the attack to miss lol
Or is like zinitsue from demon slayer lol
This is the best explanation for this that I've ever read.
Or the attacking pokemon just fumbled the attack
sleepwalkers
Quick note about Kleavor, we will get HA Kleavor as soon as it’s transferable into gen 9 cause Ability Patches exist.
Maybe they will all get their hidden ability like it was when you transfered pokémon from the virtual consol to home since in both games they don't have abilities to begin with
That's my hope tbh ^^
@@Kev.in1997 PLA mons are already transferable out of the game and into Home, and based on that they do not get their HA.
@@noivernblast3366 that's a shame
I didn't know that :/
Better farm those ability patches
Shouldn‘t it theoretically be possible to acquire a HA Scyther in Gen 9, transfer that to PLA once Home accessibility is there, evolve said Scyther in PLA and then transfer back the Kleavor?
@@GamerJulian94 usually you are unable to transfer mons from a later gen back to a previous gen
However, I suppose we’ll be able to confirm once Home releases
Scizor winning by using a Fire-type move is so poetic.
a Fire-type move preceded by AXE Kick
Thanks for the spoiler. 💔
@@lloydster9000 no need to thank us, ignorance must be purged
@@themoagoddess1820 not gonna lie, he cant ignore the comment as its top of the comment section
@@kee_lol_123 good, I stand by what I said
Technically speaking, Scyther, Scizor and Kleavor are all different forms of the same pokemon since they share the same BST
however, only scyther can use eviolite. :)
Scyther
Scizor: Iron Pincer (Future Scyther)
Kleavor: Stone Blade (Ancient Scyther)
Definitely a Kleavor fan, I was very excited to use one in Legends Arceus, and even though it kind of died a lot, it was still a good teammate, and is one of my favorite Pokémon
I'd like to use it, myself. A strong offensive rock type is nice.
It's a rough toss-up for me, because Scizor is such a classic cool 'Mon, sleek look and design, and has always been one of my favorite Bug-types, but Kleavor literally has GIANT AXES FOR HANDS, so you can see the bind I'm in 😅
Hello Daniel, did not expect to see you here.
Scizor has always been my favourite bug type, I find myself using it whenever I get the opportunity. It’s typing is clearly superior 💪
"Started off rocky with Kleavor's moves."
Hahaha!
I get it.
“Rock types”.
Scyther should have a third evolution since Scizor is Scissor and Kleavor is Rock. The Third evo should be a Paper evolution with a Grass/Bug typing and named Slashor
Exclusive move Papercut
Both Scizor and Kleavor are great! I feel like Im actually leaning towards Kleavor though. Both their shinies are clean as well and I love green. Each fit their own design.
Like cmon, did we expect Kleavor to have a chance?
About Kleavor having a beard. It's because he's based on the Samurai Warrior: Shibata Katsuie. Who is always portrayed with a similar beard.
I remember when scissor was the most played Pokémon in competitive battles. Really made me fear priority attacks and pursuit users cause it felt like a crap shoot whether I was going to get revenge killed before landing a hit or get picked off while trying to switch out.
It's Salamence's fault. Scizor was used as much as it was because it was one of the best offensive checks to it. Its usage dropped once Mence was banned to Ubers. The added utility of Pursuit and U-Turn also helps. Bug/Steel is just amazing typing.
Thanks as ever for these, always a good watch. Only issue I have is now I want to go back and 100% PLA...darn work getting in the way again.
While I haven't obtained my own copy of Legends Arceus, I like Scizor more in terms of design.
In previous games, I wasn't a fan of shiny Scizor's coloration. I wished that it was black. However, in Scarlet & Violet, shiny Scizor looks good.
Very happy Scizor won! Definitely my favorite of Scyther's evolutions.
"If one should chance upon this Pokemon in the wilds, one's only recourse is to flee."
10 year old: Hold my milkshake!
Scizor is both my favorite Johto and bug type Pokèmon.
Kleavor is both my favorite Hisui and rock type Pokèmon
Finally some hisuian Pokemon please do more
Scizor because scizor has type avantage and its better
Scizor has always had a place in my heart even though I really love Kleavor
I'm biased to Steel as it's my favorite type, and Scizor just looks amazing(opinion), but Kleavor is still hella cool.
Kleavor really is proto-Scizor. Naturally Scizor is just better.
Scissor is my favorite in Pokémon to use competitive Pokémon battles in the future.
Mega Scizor joined the Chat.
Scizor is my favourite Pokémon so I'm kind of biased.
Hearing an Al Snow reference in a Pokémon video is a pleasant surprise
Klevor is cool having a move that set's up entry hazard's which can also be used for damage is something really cool and we have never seen before
*SHUT UP H-SAMOROTT*
Gameplay wise, these two play very different. Kleavor is your lead, getting stealth rocks up that opponents can’t block with Gholdengo or magic bounce. Scizor, on the other hand, is a finisher with bullet punch and swords dance.
The two play pretty nicely together on the same team.
what does everybody want?
everyone: HEAD!!
Solid open, as always. "More like... Show us your beav-oh, no no NO"
I love Scizor. I have always wanted one on my Johto team!
"Started off rocky" I see what you did there
In case of scizor you just add steel type to scyther by removing flying type though it can have some flying type moves, just changing it
Same applies to kleavor just into rock type
Yet another amazing battle and an exciting battle I’m happy to see this
Gotta love the OG evolution
Funny thing I am one of those some people who wanted this battle for century.
It’s hard to decide between the two pokemon… Scizor will always be a classic, but both designs look SUPER COOL IMO.
Based on their shiny forms tho, I’ll go with Scizor. It just has a cleaner and more stylish look than a dark green Kleavor. But for their regular forms, ima have to say it’s a tie! Based on design, that is.
If I had to pick one based on their stats, I’m picking Scizor. But it also just depends on which type I’m going up against. So I’ll probably take both 😅
Scizor all the way. Its design is cooler, its type combination is better, and I would absolutely use one in games other than Legends: Arceus if it weren't a trade evolution.
In arceus trade evos didn't require trading
@@Kos4Evr I know. That's why I said wish I could use it in "games other than Legends: Arceus."
@@LeahLovesNature yeah trade evos were a gimmick from gen1
Goes to show how good an ability Technician is. All those moves served up by the Metronome tended to pack lower power, so Scizor gets a lot out of them.
I absolutely love Kleavor far more than Scizor. There's just something about it being just that bit faster and it's design looking so great that gets me
3:40 you forgot Quick attack with Technician
Moveslot syndrome and I don't think Quick Attack is that great on Scizor anyway. A resisted Bullet Punch isn't that much weaker than it.
Kleavor keeps its original stats
Hp70
Atk135
Def95
Spa45
Spd70
Spe85
Honestly, if I had to pick I would just say Scyther is my favorite of the evolutionary line. I like them all okay but it's definitely my favorite.
Scizor is so Kool !
Personally, I... honestly dont really have a preference. I mostly like both Scizor and Kleavor, but Scizor falls behind overall for me since it's so simple. I know that's not its fault cause it's just an early Pokémon, but that doesn't make me like it more. I like Kleavor's design more overall, but the head is a problem. I really dont like when Pokémon have human hair. I get that it's a samurai haircut, so I'm actually okay with the top.. rock? But whatever, cause the beard and unibrow are downright strange. It does work to make it lookmore gruff and aggressive, but still. I love both designs, but they both have their own shortcomings, so I just can't pick. Sharpness Kleavor does sound fun, though.
I want to see more rank battles
Al Snow reference for the win
How ironic that a team of 4X Fire weak Pokémon defeated an Axe Pokémon with both an Axe and Fire.
I like Scizor over Kleavor. I think Kleavor looks kinda old. I wonder if it's a partial reference to Tracey's Scyther
Well, isn’t that kind of a point because it’s an ancient evolution of a Pokémon, so isn’t kind of the kind of supposed to be old
@@saradavies7027 Didn't think of it like that, with that perspective I understand why Kleavor looks the way it does. Thanks
I Think I Like Scizor More
If your choosing the evolution you should pick cleaver since Scissors base stat total is the same as scyther it just has better abilities and stuff making it a evolution
I don’t hate scizor but in my opinion kleavor looks cooler and scizor is a bit overrated.
Ancestor vs modern descendant nice.
Shiny scizor looks like the Grinch lol
Klevour is such a cool pokemon in my opinion
Goodra vs Goodra Hisui please
I personally prefer Kleavor as it actually looks like an evolution for Scyther. Scizor is ok, but I honestly had no idea it was an evolution of a Pokemon, when I first saw it, let alone Scyther! The crab claws are super weird too. Sharp blades to a clamp is a strange progression.
I’m split on this on, defensively Scisor is better, even offensively it also beats Kleavor, but against other Pokémon I think Kleavor has the edge.
That intro... 🤣🤣🤣
Why do I want klevor to win scizor is favourite bug mon
Big fan of kleavor, loved it ever since it was revealed and I think it's just more badass than scizor.
Home for Scarlet and Violet will be available this spring, so when Kleavor can be transferred, ability patch dude.
How did you get Kliever in Scarlet?!?!
I know it’s compatible but but I figured not until Home will be compatible with Gen 9
I’m surprised that Kleavor did not make it in gen 9.
I don't know what Gen 9 you are playing or what video you watched...
@@Kev.in1997 ya it’s dumb that Kleavor evolves form a regular Sychter and not available in the game it will in Home.
Where did that string shot come from
Scythers evos have the same base Stat total as scyther and it bugs me and drives me to not like them
Also Dual Wing Beat for Scizor
kleavor rocked, but scizor steeled the deal
That intro almost went NSFW real quick 😂
I definitely prefer Kleavor to Scizor. Not that Scizor is bad, I still like it, but between the two I have a preference for Kleavor.
I don't particularly care for any of the scyther evolutions personally. Kleavor is the worst looking of all the pokemon added in Legends and I just never liked that Scizor was red or that it changed the cool blade arms for crab claws.
Good birthday gift for me lol
Has the update occurred already!?
Also first
It's called hacking
I don't believe it has yet. We'll know more by Pokémon Day.
simple fact both scizors got fire attacks and neither kleavors did.
This depends which game you are playing in legends arceus cleaver is better but scarlet or violet I recommend scizzot
Why is Light Metal a thing that exists in the same world as Heat Crash?
To be fair, it could reduce damage taken from Low Kick but here, yeah, it's pretty useless since Scizor isn't weak to the move for one, and it doesn't take a whole lot of damage from it either.
Scissors beats rock it turns out
Kabutops vs Scyther?
Scizor is my favorite Pokémon of all time, so I’m glad it won. But Kleavor is outstanding in its own right, and I’m excited to see it in game later on.
missed out on scizor? I barely knew her
What's with the Metronome attacks? 🤔 And GFuel is a nasty energy drink just saying 😅
Ofc Scizor would WIN LOL
But if you wanna Spread Some Hardzards i Prefer Samurott than Kleavor
Between these two, despite Scizor being my favorite type, I prefer Kleavor.
Kleavor just because I like axes
I still prefer Scyther over either of them
Buggy boys
scizor is my fave mon
Nice video
Scizor because it just is
Defiantly scizor
He never mentioned Mega Scizor :(
Megas don't exist anymore
I prefer Syther tbh compared to both his evos
Kleavor
I prefer the OG Scizor
Love scizor more bit kleavors got axed by scizor ridiculous rngXD
I like Scizor more
Scizor, not a competition! Kleavor looks like arse to me
Scizor for the win!
I don't dislike Kleavor... but Scizor is better. End of.
Not only better in look but better in battles + it also get close combat
scizor gang was here