@@roricaplaza yeah, pretty sure I saw a shorts recently that's been poping. And, tbf, these kinds are definitely better than some other ones, so, fair game.
you can 100% use it in 1n1 combat via half handing and lots of ppl who would be very skilled at that, basically using it like a spear at that point, but that said. im actual combat its mostly what the stone said. used crowd control - specifically to break enemy spear formation. there was a very famous german mercenary band that primarily used those for a very long time.
Nobody "primarily" used them. They were most famously used alongside halberds by the _Doppelsöldner_ ("double-pay men") veterans in the close-assault shock squads that supported the backbone pikemen. After pikeshafts started getting reinforced with metal strips to keep them from being easily chopped through the big swords were mostly relrgated to the bodyguard detachments of the unit "command group" (ie. officers, signallers and standard-bearers). Didn't really help that the Spanish-style _rodeleros_ (so called for their characteristic round steel shields, in English usually known as "sword and buckler men") proved to be just as good in the close assault/support niche while being more generally versatile without the same need for specialist training. Which is why those guys were still around when the Thirty Years' War kicked off in 1618 by which time the big two-handers were long gone from European battlefields.
There are medieval books on how to fight with two handed swords in all kinds of situations. They were very versatile. They were used by bodyguards, on battlefields, and in duels. In dueling situations, they could be held similar to a spear and thus outrange most swords and axes.
Note that the fighting manuals mainly cover the widely-used longsword (aka "bastard" or "hand and half" sword), a much smaller and nimbler pattern of two-hander than the rather specialised large _Zweihänder._ The former was kind of the "universal carry" sword for most fighting men after shields for various reasons fell out of general use in the Late Middle Ages. Not that they didn't share a lot of core techniques ofc, with a fair bit of overlap with staves and polearms too. Only so many ways to effectively wield such weapons within the baseline envelope of human biomechanics after all.
People forget that Biboo's knowledge is lore accurate because throughout history, ROCKS were used to maim and kill, and were also used as projectiles as well as building walls and structures. It makes lore accurate sense that Biboo would be familiar with things like weapons and warfare. Rocks were the first weapons in history, after all.
I'm always surprised by people not knowing how to say Zweihander, because it was a very common knowledge when I was a kid that W in German makes a V sound, so whenever one would pop up in a word, they ALWAYS talked VITH A VERY GERMAN VAY.
I'm pretty sure they would know how to pronounce eins, zwei and drei when written like this. But when words are combined like zweihander it might not come to their mind
So it's basically a built-in spoiler to all German viewers. Noooo poor guys 😭😭🤣 Happy to hear CC speaking German and pronounce Frieren's names the correct way in German!
It's really funny that Americans' (and other English speakers'?) first reaction to getting German words wrong is to repeat it in a way less German way, with a stronger American accent. They do it every time, without fail, and it's funny every time.
@@plstmb6000 They are pretty descriptive of the characters core personality traits. Lügner lying and tricking everyone didn´t exactly come as a surprise to anyone who knows german ^^
@@Altrantis To be fair I think writing double s is actually correct in Swiss German, so it's correct in the same way that words like "armour" and "armor" are both correct in in different English dialects.
More than 2 millenia ago, germans and romans often waged war against each other. Back in the day, germans are more likely like thier nordic cousins, a more rural type of people, not as intelligent as today. I think, about 18 or 16 centuries ago. a german tribe, called the angelo saxons traveled through the north sea to brittain and fought against the roman empire, occupying the island and slowly become what we know today as the english man. Also if you play Age of Empires 2, the teutons are germans. Barbarossa was a well known leader. We also have the iron chancelor, Otto von Bismarck, who united all german kingdoms into the german empire and thanks to him we still have some system. He created the first modern welfare state, which undermines the effort of his socialist opponents. Germany doesn´t exist since 1933, it literally exist since the roman empire, more than 2 millenia ago
Good Lord are you getting any number of details wrong... like for starters by the time the Angles and Saxons started settling in Britain the Romans had already bugged out about a generation earlier, in a vain effort to consolidate their remaining territory and the resources to defend it as the Western Empire gradually fell apart around their ears. The Romano-British were pretty unceremoniously left to fend for themselves to the best of their ability.
I realize this is on me, but for the life of me I couldn't read Frieren, the names were taking me right out of things. Like, I could deal with the main character basically being named _'to shiver'_, but when every name is in German my brain just seems to refuse cooperating.
It is curious to see this, because with names like, “yuki” “sora” etc they mean “snow” and “sky” It’s probably the novelty and that we aren’t use to hearing/reading names that aren’t just “Elizebeth” “John”
Something I saw one day and though was interesting is the Apache gun. It is basically a weird contraption that hides a gun and a knife in knuckles,but since the design needs to be compact for the user to hide it in their hand you end up losing in gun safety and the quality of each individual option is worse than doing them normally,but for the context it was used in(street fights) it was good enough and could even be better than carrying each of them individually due to the compact design making it discrete
Properly the "Apache revolver", a barrelless small-caliber pinfire revolver with a small folding dagger blade as sort of bayonet attached by hinge to brass knuckles that served as the grip when using the contraption as a gun. Popular concealed weapon among mid-late 1800s Parisian street gangs (and other petty criminals) who rather pretentiously nicknamed themselves "Apaches" after the famously fierce Native American people. Hardly the most formidable weapon by any reckoning but quite sufficient all-in-one package for their needs.
Technically Frieren means "Shivering" only. *Frieren = Shivering* *EINfrieren = Freezing* Which means her true nemesis is the Demon "Schwitzen" = Sweating.
Well shivering also has a more direct German word, "zittern" so translating frieren as freezing isn't wrong since it has so many uses and seeing what her name is supposed to symbolize I think freezing is the more accurate translation here.
'Frieren' can have different meanings, but mostly it is simply 'to freeze', which can be something you put into the freezer or sitting in cold rain in winter, it would get you freezing, but it could also mean being emotionally cold.
The german präfix "Ein" signs that a verb is working "innwards or integrating" In case of frieren the ein would sign that the cold is working its way to freeze something down to its core. You could put another präfix on it like ZU or ER to form the verbs ZUfrieren, ERfrieren. But Zufrieren would sign you that what ever is freezing is blocking you off while Erfrieren would suggest that the freezing happens rather sudden or as the result of another action. All of those are still forms of the verb Freezing it´s just more precise of what this verb is doing in relation to your perception of it.
The secret is to say it slow, pronounce every letter very deliberately and firmly, and extend a bit the vowels, with the tongue a little lower and more relaxed than in english.
I was surprised that Biboo knows the history of Zweihander.😮
But now that I think about it, she was very knowledgeable about slang and other things.
Willing to bet its Tiktok...well, there is this guy on YT shorts that demonstrated what Biboo just said here
@@roricaplaza The poledancing archer guy?
@@sebrussell yeah, lmao
@@roricaplaza yeah, pretty sure I saw a shorts recently that's been poping. And, tbf, these kinds are definitely better than some other ones, so, fair game.
It was really cute how they try to pronounce "Zweihänder" (translated literally means "Twohands"), but Biboo's knowledge is amazing. Smart Rock
you can 100% use it in 1n1 combat via half handing and lots of ppl who would be very skilled at that, basically using it like a spear at that point, but that said. im actual combat its mostly what the stone said. used crowd control - specifically to break enemy spear formation. there was a very famous german mercenary band that primarily used those for a very long time.
It means "Twohander", not "Twohands".
Nobody "primarily" used them. They were most famously used alongside halberds by the _Doppelsöldner_ ("double-pay men") veterans in the close-assault shock squads that supported the backbone pikemen. After pikeshafts started getting reinforced with metal strips to keep them from being easily chopped through the big swords were mostly relrgated to the bodyguard detachments of the unit "command group" (ie. officers, signallers and standard-bearers).
Didn't really help that the Spanish-style _rodeleros_ (so called for their characteristic round steel shields, in English usually known as "sword and buckler men") proved to be just as good in the close assault/support niche while being more generally versatile without the same need for specialist training. Which is why those guys were still around when the Thirty Years' War kicked off in 1618 by which time the big two-handers were long gone from European battlefields.
Rune 2h
There are medieval books on how to fight with two handed swords in all kinds of situations. They were very versatile.
They were used by bodyguards, on battlefields, and in duels.
In dueling situations, they could be held similar to a spear and thus outrange most swords and axes.
Note that the fighting manuals mainly cover the widely-used longsword (aka "bastard" or "hand and half" sword), a much smaller and nimbler pattern of two-hander than the rather specialised large _Zweihänder._ The former was kind of the "universal carry" sword for most fighting men after shields for various reasons fell out of general use in the Late Middle Ages.
Not that they didn't share a lot of core techniques ofc, with a fair bit of overlap with staves and polearms too. Only so many ways to effectively wield such weapons within the baseline envelope of human biomechanics after all.
"Watch this"
When I think of CC, I think of this.
People forget that Biboo's knowledge is lore accurate because throughout history, ROCKS were used to maim and kill, and were also used as projectiles as well as building walls and structures. It makes lore accurate sense that Biboo would be familiar with things like weapons and warfare. Rocks were the first weapons in history, after all.
TSVY-hender
Something like that.
Zweihänders were used one on one, but they are mainly used for crowd control
I thought Übel meant armpits. My bad
smelling them may make you nauseous too (übel can also mean nauseous)
Some -delicious- malicious pits, those are.
close enough
Closest translation of "Übel" I can come up with is "Yabai" in Japanese or "Wicked" in English
armpits - Achselhöhlen
No problem. Thank me later.
Was a beautiful streaming day💚💚👹
We need a Holo Forged in Fire Watchalong
"watch this" a classic 😂
I personally can't wait for CC to play elden ring and get to Calid...
I'm always surprised by people not knowing how to say Zweihander, because it was a very common knowledge when I was a kid that W in German makes a V sound, so whenever one would pop up in a word, they ALWAYS talked VITH A VERY GERMAN VAY.
I'm pretty sure they would know how to pronounce eins, zwei and drei when written like this. But when words are combined like zweihander it might not come to their mind
I learned it from watching too many reruns of Cool Runnings.
0:43 french biboo
:) It will KEeeel
Cecilia ImmerHeiter
Reminds me when I tried to learn German and ended up neglecting it.
Only thing I can remember is counting to 10 in German. lol
So it's basically a built-in spoiler to all German viewers. Noooo poor guys 😭😭🤣
Happy to hear CC speaking German and pronounce Frieren's names the correct way in German!
Yeah it's kinda weird all the names are just adjectives in German.
@@Boki_86 Wait til you find out the literal translations of all of Holo JP's names to english lol.
@@mkvalkyrie it’s not the same. German is one of my mother languages. I don’t have the native speaker Perspektive in Japanese so everting sounds fine.
Biboo is also an enjoyer of poledancing archer guy. Based as usual
CC and Kiara colab when ?! 😡
biboo : fwiwen
I have a sneaking suspicion that Biboo was watching the Blumineck zweihander short just before this lol
Cali: Z-Whyhander
It's really funny that Americans' (and other English speakers'?) first reaction to getting German words wrong is to repeat it in a way less German way, with a stronger American accent.
They do it every time, without fail, and it's funny every time.
The automaton is warming my heart...sigh...not again.
Its weard how she is the first member who speaks france in En but still the most clips are about ger.
Well, it is Fr*nch.
Kronii actually knows some French as thanks to Quebec it's something of a mandatory subject in Canadian schools.
Does anyone else hear that 'uwu'-effect in the 'w' when Biboo is pronouncing Zweihänder? 😂
The idea that it took this long for CC to acknowledge one of the most beloved German Anime of recent times is a crime in and of itself.
I am going to die on the hill the Japanese of name of the anime is better and makes more sense then beyond journeys end
She talked about it before, she also said something about the names being weirdly literal.
@@plstmb6000 They are pretty descriptive of the characters core personality traits. Lügner lying and tricking everyone didn´t exactly come as a surprise to anyone who knows german ^^
This isn’t the first time she’s talked about this. She’s had this same convo with chat before months ago
@@ShadeScarecrowits like with titles that explain the whole plot. Japan people are seriously not good at naming...
Zweihänder would be correctly written zweihaender for those dont have this letter (ä)
I don't have the B looking S so I use ss. I tend to even forget when words use it instead of the double S.
@@Altrantis To be fair I think writing double s is actually correct in Swiss German, so it's correct in the same way that words like "armour" and "armor" are both correct in in different English dialects.
Certain Abyssgard: HÆH..??
@@Altrantis Oh, that's easy, ever since the German orthography reform of 1996: when a word has a long vowel or a diphthong, you use the ß.
1:37 never asking Germanian about a history Biboo.
More than 2 millenia ago, germans and romans often waged war against each other. Back in the day, germans are more likely like thier nordic cousins, a more rural type of people, not as intelligent as today.
I think, about 18 or 16 centuries ago. a german tribe, called the angelo saxons traveled through the north sea to brittain and fought against the roman empire, occupying the island and slowly become what we know today as the english man.
Also if you play Age of Empires 2, the teutons are germans. Barbarossa was a well known leader.
We also have the iron chancelor, Otto von Bismarck, who united all german kingdoms into the german empire and thanks to him we still have some system. He created the first modern welfare state, which undermines the effort of his socialist opponents.
Germany doesn´t exist since 1933, it literally exist since the roman empire, more than 2 millenia ago
Hello. German history didn't start in the 20th century. You're welcome.
Good Lord are you getting any number of details wrong... like for starters by the time the Angles and Saxons started settling in Britain the Romans had already bugged out about a generation earlier, in a vain effort to consolidate their remaining territory and the resources to defend it as the Western Empire gradually fell apart around their ears. The Romano-British were pretty unceremoniously left to fend for themselves to the best of their ability.
Sweihänder
Z* :)
Hahaha
I realize this is on me, but for the life of me I couldn't read Frieren, the names were taking me right out of things. Like, I could deal with the main character basically being named _'to shiver'_, but when every name is in German my brain just seems to refuse cooperating.
It is curious to see this, because with names like, “yuki” “sora” etc they mean “snow” and “sky”
It’s probably the novelty and that we aren’t use to hearing/reading names that aren’t just “Elizebeth” “John”
übel means bad, because she has an evil/bad character, but I think it's because shes a baddie
And why does Biboo of all people know what a zweihander was historically used for?
She chirped when Forged in Fire was mentioned, so maybe she got hooked on that.
i was not surprised when i learned what she watched as a child...
Because they are based and so is she
I'll take historical knowledge about the use of the Zweihänder over brainrot-skibidi-gyatt at any time. No questions asked 🤣
It's easy to deduce
She saw a zweihander in dark souls and then probably got recommended or she looked things about it
I'm just glad Calli stopped calling it the _zwey-hinder_
this is a little nitpicky but
frieren = feeling cold
gefrieren = freezing
I don't think she is that wrong. It is pretty normal to say in English a something like it's freezing or I'm freezing.
Biboo enthusiastically piped up when forged in fire was mentioned.
Maybe Biboo's like Anya, as in she's a weapon. Like a stone club. XD.
The jewel of power.
I have no doubt that Biboo would make a excellent weapon if Kaela ever forges her into one.
Something I saw one day and though was interesting is the Apache gun. It is basically a weird contraption that hides a gun and a knife in knuckles,but since the design needs to be compact for the user to hide it in their hand you end up losing in gun safety and the quality of each individual option is worse than doing them normally,but for the context it was used in(street fights) it was good enough and could even be better than carrying each of them individually due to the compact design making it discrete
Properly the "Apache revolver", a barrelless small-caliber pinfire revolver with a small folding dagger blade as sort of bayonet attached by hinge to brass knuckles that served as the grip when using the contraption as a gun. Popular concealed weapon among mid-late 1800s Parisian street gangs (and other petty criminals) who rather pretentiously nicknamed themselves "Apaches" after the famously fierce Native American people.
Hardly the most formidable weapon by any reckoning but quite sufficient all-in-one package for their needs.
Chest: 0
Yapper: 256
So she is close to a stack overflow and the chest will get bigger if she yapps even more?
@@nagato2240 wtf😂
@@nagato2240 Ah, that must exdplain Fauna then.
Perfect.
Technically Frieren means "Shivering" only.
*Frieren = Shivering*
*EINfrieren = Freezing*
Which means her true nemesis is the Demon "Schwitzen" = Sweating.
Well shivering also has a more direct German word, "zittern" so translating frieren as freezing isn't wrong since it has so many uses and seeing what her name is supposed to symbolize I think freezing is the more accurate translation here.
@@free4fire Frieren is the cutest, most girly sounding variant to me which I think became the main denominator for this female Elfs name.
'Frieren' can have different meanings, but mostly it is simply 'to freeze', which can be something you put into the freezer or sitting in cold rain in winter, it would get you freezing, but it could also mean being emotionally cold.
In Norwegian it means "the proposer" as in to propose marriage to someone
The german präfix "Ein" signs that a verb is working "innwards or integrating" In case of frieren the ein would sign that the cold is working its way to freeze something down to its core.
You could put another präfix on it like ZU or ER to form the verbs ZUfrieren, ERfrieren. But Zufrieren would sign you that what ever is freezing is blocking you off while Erfrieren would suggest that the freezing happens rather sudden or as the result of another action.
All of those are still forms of the verb Freezing it´s just more precise of what this verb is doing in relation to your perception of it.
At times like these, Cecilia is the German teacher for her "students"
I thought Heiter would be painter
booooooooo !!
It's always funny when dark souls youtubers pronounce it
Germans: "[t͡svaɪhɛndɐ]"
UA-camrs: "CHAOSHANDER GIANTDAD"
I'm baffled that CC is playing with keyboard and mouse straight through.
I'm a keyboard gang too
Just keyboard for me
That's quite easy and nice, better controle on camera kind of things. Personnally I did all DS3 and Elden Ring like that, never had any issues
German words have such a nice pronunciation, the only problem is that I cannot replicate it for the life of me.
The secret is to say it slow, pronounce every letter very deliberately and firmly, and extend a bit the vowels, with the tongue a little lower and more relaxed than in english.
First