Whitlock and Wiley react to reports Raiders plan to suspend Antonio Brown | NFL | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2019
- Jason Whitlock, Marcellus Wiley joins T. J. Houshmandzadeh and LaVar Arrington to discuss news that the Oakland Raiders plan to suspend Antonio Brown after an altercation with GM Mike Mayock.
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What are your thoughts on Antonio Brown’s behavior?
Can we go one day... Just one day without hearing the word narrative as it relates to sports talk tv or radio? Idk why it's so bothersome but it is. #JustSaying
Antonio Brown is an excellent receiver; however, there are so many others who deserve this same chance without all the drama. Raiders should cut their losses and move on.
@@cougarlady112 I can tell you right now, If the raiders cut him today... he'll be catching passes against the Giants on Sunday. I promise
@@StevenEvens7125, maybe, but $30 million less. The Giants will get him at a bargain. On the other hand, I am from New Jersey. Giants fans are not going to tolerate another diva. Trust me on that.
real question what was whitlock thinking when he got that haircut?
Antonio Brown retired week 16 last year.
This is Nino Brown
12st Numbers haha
My names NINOO
Is that a Kitchen Nightmares reference?
They need to make another new Jack city movie man!!!!
We all knew what happened to Nino in the end 😂😂😂😂
Lavar wanted to say that Antonio has CTE but didn't say it.
curtflirt2 interesting 🤔
i agreed with him then Whitlock tried to shut him down and laugh at him. Typical view of mental illness in our society
mmhhmm
He ain’t got a mental illness he just got money and it turned him into who he wanted to be
Jack Lambert especially in the black community
I respect the kind man on the right but AB is making his own bed.
Bro what if this is CTE?
Lavar Arrington
You and Lavar could both be right
@Daniel Hulett nah cte is discovered post morten other than that they'll say what they have to say to keep you playing
I think Ryan Clark was right that AB 'just not a good human'.
Imagine waking up from a three year coma to learn Antonio Brown and Mike Mayock got into a fight during Jon Gruden’s practice session and Vontaze Burfict was the voice of reason
The devil is a liar 🤔
Funniest thing I’ve seen in awhile
You got me cracking up dude
Spank bank material right there
Demolition man
The most real segment I've heard in a very long time. Full disclosure and honest debate. Respect to all the panel on this one. Mental Health is real!
Lavar Arrington often offers different perspectives than normal headline narratives, a large reason why I watch these clips of this show. It’s refreshing.
I agree..
I knew he lost his mind after the blond mustache
I was thinking there same thing bru.
Yep
Facts!
Right!! Sick
Facts!!!
Take heed to Lavar's word...Something is wrong with dude! Pressure will bust a pipe.
Voiding that 30 Million dollar contract is help. If that doesn't wake him up, nothing will.
@Scouts Honor lavar means mental help regardless of your financial situation you can have mental issues. No victimhood involved that's just real talk
Scouts Honor I’m not giving that dumb millionaire any of my money. This is all HIS fault, no one else’s. He got the money yet still just focusing on himself
@EMANeleVenElevEn ... You don't know that. There are plenty of athletes who have made more than AB and ended up homeless.
NOW HE HAS A $24 MIL CONTRACT W A SUPERBOWL TEAM. THIS BRAT GOT EXSCTLY WHAT I WANT
@Scouts Honor ... he won't last a week ...
Marcellus finally admitting AB is a clown after weeks of saying it was no deal
Jazzy Jeff Real Talk at least he owned up to it and ate that crow buffet
deciuswtasby I guess you right 🤷🏾♂️
Not gonna lie bro I waz excusing everything up until this latest development. This one is definitely inexcusable
Marcellus a clown too
@@vet116 facts!!!
Two Words : Ryan Clark
braiden45 he’s been saying this for ages lol. People said he was salty...he was right all along
deciuswtasby he was salty and I think he’s a hater. I get brown acts immature but not being able to play because his feet were actually peeling flesh and getting fined for for it corny. Mayock is trying to assert authority but don’t do it a week before the season starts he should’ve done the first day there
@@carlossena6617 it wasn't about playing. You still have to come to practice even if you are not suiting up. Anyone that has played sports know that you still come to practice and just stand by the side with the coaches. You dont just skip out unless they know what is going on. Ol boy just didnt show up no explanation no nothing. The days that he missed his foot was fine to stand on the sideline he just couldn't practice on it.
right on, Ryan Clark tried to warn them. "AB is not a good human".
Ryan Clark openly told Colin Cowherd that Mike Tomlin told him that there were MANY "episodes" with AB that the Steelers organization kept hidden and swept under the rug. Tomlin said dealing with AB was literally a "Circus".
I love the way lavar thinks! Everyone else is just lashing out on what they see and they maybe right. But lavars thinking process is impressive
Love Lavar’s empathy and resistance to simply looking at the situation on a surface level. He may be wrong in the end, but I appreciate that approach first.
Thanks Lavar.... your point is very well taken and it seems to be the best at the desk on this topic! 💯
Rich or poor Mental health is a serious issue straight facts from Lavar i like his POV
Soo the raiders need to figure a way to help this dude and paid him 30 mill too?? 😴😴...
not the Raiders fault...Raiders have business to handle...AB needs to check into a hospital then.
Lavar has an excellent perspective about AB's behavior. This issue (AB's mental health) is something that will come to light a few years down the road. The guy needs help. The question is it the NFL's responsibility to comply?
@@haroldrice7782 so now we are responsible from every crazy, selfish dude out there because they may have metal problems 😨😨 really??
@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk I didn't say the NFL should be responsible because it's obvious that he doesn't realize he has a problem because he is so into himself.
Massive respect for LaVar Arrington maintaining his cool empathetic demeanor while the rest of the panel constantly interrupted him.
Kudos to you Lavar Arrington for not eating the low hanging fruit and actually asking the room to look at this situation more intelligently.
@Wavy Reese How tf is that being ignorant? Could be true, and if its true its no laughing matter
Wavy Reese you slow asf
AB is all but done In Oakland. Sad but true. Dude is already wearing out his welcome and the season hasn’t started yet. SMH
He's wored out in the NFL period
Prometheus All ....agreed
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
What you said is funny and sad at the same time, to wear out your welcome before the season even start, man that takes a special kind of crazy.
Las Vegas raiders 2020.
Lavar is way to intelligent for this conversation. These guys have no idea what psychology is
@Daniel Hulett Marcellus went to Columbia university. An ivy League school. Larvae couldn't spell Columbia.
@Billy...he can be crying out for help all he wants...the Raiders are a business not a hospital...
I agree with you bruh
too
AB has the money and fame to get whatever help he needs, every day people go to work with mental and physical problems, its not the raiders responsibility to do anything other than pay him for doing his job
It sounds like Arrington knows what he's talking about. If anyone remembers Arrington, maybe he does...
Arrington looks rough...
Arrington is definitely getting at something... the other media r just copying talking points
I think Lavar is spot on. AB has some serious issues that go beyond football!
Jason R no doubt mental health is real , lavar is absolutely right and I hope AB gets the help he needs..
yves johnson yep. Somethings medically wrong with AB in my opinion. He needs help. This isn’t normal.
It's a deal breaker once threats of violence or a violent act happens toward a coach, ref, GM...There is absolutely no way possible for Coach Gruden and GM Mayock to allow AB on the Raiders after he threatened Mayock and posted the letter from Mayock to AB. Look. Gruden needs to have the team believe he is their leader and this cannot be done with a player who threats a GM. Gruden will lose control of the team if he allows AB to remain.
AB is a narcissist. Simple.
Look it up, this ish aint complicated
Amen bro hes out of control he thinks he's bigger than the game of football. I hate to break it to him it'll go on without him and not miss a beat.
Narcissists is correct
RokeorDie nearly all narcissists at least try to appear more intelligent
@IncogNito Revived he don't have traumatic brain damage. He has a self worth problem. Period.
@Brooks Orlando I wouldn't say so only because sociopaths don't tend to get to such an elite level in anything. The guy is obviously a supreme talent, i'd just leave it at narcissist for now
That look Whitlock gave lavar Priceless!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
what time?
@@johnnywilkman 3:08 I'm guessing
@@IsWhatItIs32 that's the one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 dude I swear I watched this clip like 15 times
@@JoelElTractor exaaaaaaactly
He needs to get a cat scan on his brain.
@Scouts Honor 😂
They did and found it inhabited by a 10 year old child.
Dan Smith
I Agree.
TIME OUT... ANTONIO BROWN NEEDS TO BE TESTED FOR C.T.E...EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
They can't test for it until you're dead.
Shirley Ann Jones, Might want to tell the twelve people that liked your comment that the test can’t happen until the guy is dead.
@@jonahmosher3314 ohh wow that's actually sad..if He's not well I feel bad for Him..
they need to test him for cte asap.
Aaron hernandes had it. One year younger the ab and he stoopped playing in 2013 and his brain looked alot older the he dis
cut him and pay him nothing before you put him on the roster and owe him
Thomas Martin fax
Call up Doss and ask him if he is ready.
Thomas Martin YEP AFTER THIS GAMES THEY WILL KNOW
I heard Mike Mayock was ready to T up
Lavar you are so right. He wants help for real. Too many hits to the head.
That's that burfict hit
Did you not hear the rest of them? Do you really think the Raiders didn’t try and help him? He’s a grown as man and people like Lavar are the kind of people who can not take responsibility for their actions and does not know what reality is and when reality finally hits it hits hard. AB only has himself to blame and no one else.
Hey George? Answer why the patriots took him. Stop with the coddling! Like they say, they know what they are getting into, like people say ‘change jobs’. You are wrong sir good day
George L and this entire situation with him signing to the Patriots smells of a dirty selfish plan to get with the patriots. If everyone is trying to help and he can’t see it he really needs to be hospitalized and out of the public before he hurts himself or worse other people. Or listen how Lavar is dancing and twisting the truth because people like you do not want to be wrong. How can you use the Cry for help argument when the people who were on his side was trying to help?
Lavar is so beyond them that they think he's wrong. The other 3 keep taking the simple response to a complex issue.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
When are you guys going to talk about CTE? Aaron Hernandez, Junior Seau and Antonio Brown.
facts. Thats what Lavar was saying without saying it
@@intent2668 Yeah, without saying it. They need to start saying it.
@@Bshipbuilder They're probably contractually obligated to NOT say it. They need that NFL money
@@intent2668 Its certainly their bread and butter. It's just a bad situation all around.
Ben Builder - 100%
AB lost his mind after Vontaze Burfict gave him a concussion😂
What's so funny about a concussion?
I been thinking that as well!!!
Faxx
That's not all that funny. Actually not funny at all.
He unfollowed the Raiders & Carr , & followed the Houston Texans lmao 😂
Wait!! Why would he follow the Texans?
Saya X 2020 vision.
My kids don't even act like this.
In his mind he's done as a rsider b4 even playing a snap for them. I was a AB fan from day one and once he un followed my Steelers I new that was it. Maybe he doesn't play a down this season in the NFL
The Texans wouldn't touch him. They only go after high character guys. They've passed up on a few players who were good athletes because they had issues off the field
Whatever legal path the Raiders have to release AB, w/o paying him any of his contractual money, they should take that path.
I think once he saw Luck call it Quit's, it's what he wants to do but still wants to get paid
My96XJ he’ll soon find out that there’s a key difference between him an luck .... he’s not going to get to keep the money
Male sense but he wont keep his money
good point
Lmao. Right!
Except A.B Is A HOF.. LUCK IS A OVERRATED TURNOVER MACHINE QUITTER!! NEVER REACHED A SB!
I really respect Lavar for saying what he said. You can tell he's been around the block a few times and met quite a few people. He's seen some things in his lifetime.
I just wanna note that LaVar Arrington was my favorite player in Madden. The only LB I can remember at the time that had a 90 speed.
When you are watching this on your smart phone😂😂
🤣🤣
Ikr?!
Marcellus ain't no joke. Killed that point at the end.
Its good to see a LaVar Arrington articulate his points instead of yelling over one another
I have this disgusting feeling that AB will end up on the Patriots.
lol BB is salivating...
You are right!
Real talk AB needs to be checked mental health, emotional stability, and reality check. 30,000,000.00 is alot to put on the line over IG, and just plain old BS. Ps. So soooooooooooo happy he is not a Steeler anymore.
@Scouts Honor where did you draw that conclusion?
@Scouts Honor your comment is really disrespectful at this point. Idk if you're just feeling a way about the african decent plight being pushed out in full force, but this has nothing to do with that specific topic. This has ro do with someone, who clearly thinks he has privileges he doesn't. It also seems as if he doesn't want to play football at this point. How about we try to leave the disenfranchisement of a people out of a discussion of one person's lack of maturity.
@Scouts Honor it's not black mental health awareness. It is just mental health awareness. This is not a color thing. This is a function of the brain being severely hampered or violently attacked from unnatural collisions your body isn't meant to endure. This has nothing to do with Antonio brown. He is a rich guy with entitlement issues. He is not the representation of the majority of black people, who are mostly poor.
@Scouts Honor Man, you're worse than AB. You have a problem just like him if you believed everything you just typed!
Scouts Honor hey buddy your racism is showing. Quit reaching
This dude brown might have a deal in the works with the Patriots. Brown and Gordon. Would be a lethal combination for brady smh.
I'd die if that happens lol.
@@MikeBNumba6 IT WAS ALL A SET UP FROM THE BEGINNING .BROWN AND HIS AGENT USED THE STEELERS AND THE RAIDERS TO GET TO THE PATRIOTS. HE ORIGINALLY WANT TO GO TO THE PATRIOTS.FROM THE BEGINNING. SMH
Ryan Clark looks like a genius more and more everyday 😂
I laughed when people taking AB in first or second round fantasy draft. This is why. He's a knucklehead.
Not gonna lie I was very weary of taking him, and I'm glad I didn't
I learned my lesson last year when I took Bell.
I laughed when people bought his jersey as soon as he signed with the Raiders. Ima Raiders fan and I saw all this coming with him. I didnt spend my money buying his jersey. He's always been a cancer to a team
CTE 🧠..... The 3 of them are trying their best to cover up the true concerns. NFL paid them well to defend their brand. Lavar even scared to say what he means because he needs his job.
Gotta give credit where it’s due. Whitlock was right about AB being the biggest diva.
Lavar Arrington is a very compassionate person.
It’s not up to the NFL to address the needs of people who “cry out for help.” Where’s the union?
LaVar is correct, what the Raiders are doing now are addressing poor upbringing, allowed to act out, Mayock was just setting the boundaries. Something that should have been done earlier in his career.
I think Levar is crying for help with that perspective he is taking. 😂
Excellent conversation guys. Enjoyed all view points and the insight of the effects of smart phone media. Sad that guys like Brown with his physical gift has fallen to the victim/selfish mode that is so prevalent in our society. As a Raider fan, miss guys like Marcus Allen, who made the best of his gifts on and off the field.
Anyone who thought this wouldn’t explode in spectacular fashion is light on brain cells.
This isn't new. AB has been a head case for a very, very long time. Go back and look at his history on and off the field. That's what we know about. Who knows what else he has been doing in the background.
Still Bens fault, right Marcellus?
what makes you think Ben is a saint?
LaVar is making valid points. Glad to see he is looking at this situation from a different perspective. Once you (AB) are past a certain age people don't have patience for your abnormal behaviour. If AB was in his teens or early twenties people would cut him some slack especially if they see you are trying to change. Once you pass 30 years old, people say you have issues! They won't have patience with you unless perhaps it's your parents. If you don't want to be helped or don't recognize you need help you may have to hit rock bottom before you can accept help.
I'm just happy SF didn't win the AB lottery during the off-season. That alone is a win in itself
Marcellus just broke it down for em 8:50. Yes he did that!
Ab wants to retire
Great dialogue. Definitely, appreciate the fellas different perspectives and their discussion coming from a variety of angles. Everyone on the panel had excellent insights. Really thought provoking.
This segment is an example of why your show is the best sports program on tv.
Wow, this is the most sophisticated sports commentator discussion I can ever remember hearing. That Arrington has amazing adult insights. Not that the other guys are wrong. Respect to them too. This goes so much deeper than football. Impressive.
I have to admit it. AB and the crazy is endlessly entertaining.
Wow who knew Lavar Arrington was such a nice dude. He actually feels bad for AB while the other guys are ready to dismiss him. But he has to go, this is a team game and he’s off doing his own thing. The Raiders handled this situation correctly.
As a raiders fan, I defended him with his delusions and issue with a helmet, thats one thing, but calling out our GM and threatening him is a whole another issue. I know a lot of Raiders fans, and I can speak for them....we want this guy out....
Lavar is dancing around saying that AB is mentally ill, I guess not to offend anyone. He needs to just say it. I've been saying it all summer. The elliptical video was very telling.
he basically did say that...he said he's crying out for help.
Ab is a disgrace to the game. I don’t want a selfish guy like him play the beautiful game of football especially when he isn’t playing it for the right reasons
TJ HOUS IS THA MAN!!! Good to see him again on tv 👍
Hypothesis: Ab wanted to play for NE. Steelers would never trade him there. AB agrees to Raiders trade, then does anything he can to get released. He's now free to sign with the Pats. It's all been a work-shoot.
Discuss....
Has not been the same since burfict hit
You have to seek help to get help. AB’s noodle is cooked
Lavar is absolutely right! Antonio doesn’t even really know how he is. Dude needs some serious help.
That last statement by Marcellus was right on point!!!!!
EXACTLY!!!
Mike Tomlin must be laughing his a** off.
I remember people arguing a few years ago about if Tomlin had lost the locker room. With recent developments i think it's safe to say Tomlin probably held that locker room together better than anyone else could have given the personalities he was dealing with.
He said he didn't want to play anymore. SMH
That’s what I’ve been saying , he just don’t wanna play
When TJ laughed @ 3:07 🤣🤣🤣
This show is way better than anything else out right now! Hands down, 10/10
LaVar, One of my favourite linebackers ever, great perspective. Not to assume ABs mental state at all. but if these "episodes" arent scripted somehow, then you have to be human about this.
Maybe it won’t hit AB until he’s black-balled from the NFL.
🎱
Jerry Rice will always be the grestest WR of my time....and what a class act he was and he was 3 times better than this fool
Greatest of any time!
Mr. Big Chest
LMAO!!!
I think LaVar is on to something... could be CTE related.
I made the joke a couple weeks ago that the old helmet might have actually been the cause of his behavioral issues... but he's seriously acting bipolar and it's certainly possible a lifetime of blows to the head are a factor.
I agree. There is something going on here. Mental Illness is a real.
LaVar trying to make AB out to be a victim....
Shout-out to Marcus that Vlad joint was very VERY GOOD sir...way to represent🤘🏿✊🏿
Brown is the quintessential poster boy for the "Drama Queen" mentality of many of today's professional athletes...he's a detriment to his team and to himself...PART WAYS WITH THIS CLOWN!!!!
RETURNING HIS RETAINER...LMFAO 😂🤣😂🤣
Grown man talk my favorite sport talk show
If he's sick the way the guy on the right thinks he is then he doesn't need to be playing football anyway....
Marcellus should have to show up at Big Ben's house and mow his lawn for a month. Ben gets along just fine with his entire receiving core other than AB. Go figure.
nah... don't believe that Ben is innocent because someone else looks guilty... both people can be guilty.
If you are a receiver an TJ rips you for not being a team player, give it up. TJ defaults to the player side, so this is telling.
No1 has broached the question but I will -
Is AB on drugs or does he need serious psychological help because what else could explain this behavior?
that's gotta b some good, world shakin bud!
I called this back in the spring. I knew AB would be a serious problem for the Raiders and I am not one bit surprised about how AB acted. Applause to the Raiders for cutting him. FINALLY.
AB will go on to have a stellar substitute high school teacher / high school football coaching career. All the best AB.
Lavar Arrington, narcassists don't cry out for help. They continue this behavior until they are locked up or dead...
Or they become president. Trump has accidentally said Alabama is getting some of the storm and caused a frenzy by using a sharpee to outline Alabama instead of just saying I misspoke. That is narcissistic behavior.
They don't think they need help. Everything is always everyone else's fault. They're always the victim in their minds.
@SharpWanker Elite what does that mean "nobody does"? People literally do this for a living.
@SharpWanker Elite I dont have my MA yet so no but if I had enough footage of him I could probably diagnose some basic characteristics. Also this isnt about me you, said "nobody" and you also said nothing about just using the video.
But I do agree that men's mental health is rarely taken seriously in this country.
@SharpWanker Elite i agree dude so many armchair psychologists these days
WTF Lavar turned into a psychologist???
Anthony F it’s interesting because I wonder if he went through such which is why he took that stance
deciuswtasby True.
Only lavar i wanna see is lavar ball
Narcissism at its finest. Educate your selfs. They are everywhere.
Exactly. They are. And once you've dealt with one, up close, for any significant period of time, you know the signs instantly in others
That man has MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!
I took a step back and saw that he doesn't get into criminal trouble nor is he in the clubs getting into altercations.
However, I agree with Lavar Arrington, there is a cry for help that is being ignored ESPECIALLY when it comes to mental heath in the Black community, we often brush it aside and with him being in the media spotlight his antics are magnified and no one is seeing.
Ryan Clark's been telling us this was gonna happen. What a child.
I think AB has some type of drug addiction
Yea it's called social media
You fed him money, we fed him fame. He is the monster we created.