i just ordered my lyre harph and honestly you inspired me to get it. i found your channel a week ago and i've watched so many of ur videos! pls keep the content up, it's amazing
i would advise that when turning a string to ALWAYS tune UP to the note you want. When you loosen a string the pitch will continue to drop because it will keep relaxing. So if you need to lower the pitch it's best to loosen the string lower than you need and then tighten back UP to the pitch you needed.
Oh my GOD I've been struggling with the remote tuner that came with my kit and the app had me fully tuned in less than 10 minutes 😅 can't wait to finally start
Girl... I just got a lyre nearly identical to yours and you are go to, to learn all about it. So grateful for your videos. That explains why mine sounds so off. I thought I was just playing it so badly
Nice video this Will help soo many ppl. Just reding all the coments in your video is that you rilly inspired alot of ppl to start playing harp and im One of Them you inspired
The love of music is one of the best things a person can have imo. The world is a little more peaceful when people listen to music. I'm so happy you find my videos inspiring!
After almost 3 days of looking videos in UA-cam finally this was the video that helped me to setup my 10 string lyre with the ios app Tuner T1. Thank you so much for this video!
Hello! Thanks for posting this. I just bought a donner 10 string lyre, and I'm a little confused by my booklet instructions. The notes range from E4 to G5, but the string feels very, very taunt when I try to get it to those notes. I'm worried I'll break the string, so I've just been doing E3 instead of E4, F3 instead of F4, and so on. Am I worried for nothing or should I really be tuning it differently than what the booklet says?
Hello! It should be safe to tune to the range specified by the manufacturer. The strings will get tighter the closer they are to the target notes. If you're worried, take it slowly. Oh, and make sure your room is quiet enough so the tuner shows the right range. My experience is that background noise can make the reading jump a full range, such as from a 4 to a 5. =)
if I have a 10 string can I just use g, a, b, c d e f g a b if not what is the the correct tuning for a 10 string, (sidnote: ur a lifesaver i think ur the only channel who makes these kind of vids/tutorials thank u so much💕💕)
Hi. I'm so happy you find my videos helpful. Does the manufacturer say which notes to tune your lyre to? How a note sounds depends on the string's thickness, length, material, and tension. You can adjust the tension but go overboard and the string breaks. It's safe to follow the manufacturer's specifications.
Hello, I just got a new lyre and I'm struggling a lot with tuning, lol. Even in a quiet area, I can only get my first G string to G4 and it feels ready to snap. I've actually already broken a few strings trying to tune them to the right notes. Do you have any advice? I've had my new lyre for a day now, so I'm not sure if I was supposed to wait for the strings to slowly stretch or if I'm doing something wrong. I'm kind of concerned and I don't know a whole lot about music in general (I only play the kalimba right now). Thank you in advance!
Hello. Breaking a few strings doesn't sound normal. I'm thinking if the factory default is too far from the notes you're trying to tune to. Which lyre do you have? What tuning did the manufacturer recommend? If a string is designed to hold E4 for example, it's safe to tune one up (F4) or down (D4), but going further could break the string. Also, some lyres put the higher strings on the left, whereas the one I have in this video put the higher on the right. If your lyre is like mine, the first G string should be G3 and not G4.
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you so much for replying! I have the Aklot 16 String Hollow Round Lyre Harp. From my understanding of videos I've watched, the largest G string is designed to hold G3. Even after letting it sit a day at G4, I don't think it can go up one without breaking. Another odd thing is that even if those are the notes it's designed for, the largest A string couldn't even get close to A4 without snapping... I'm beginning to think I have a defective lyre, lol.
@@a.c.3318 G3 is lower than G4 (the smaller the number, the lower it is). By "largest" do you mean the thickest? If the thickest G string is at G4, loosen it so it goes down to G3. Similarly, the thickest A string (2nd from the left) should be A3 instead of A4.
@@SamanthaonMars Oh my. I think I just tuned it too tight right away. I got it to G3 and it's sounding great now. Thank you so much for your help and your quick replies!! As an absolute beginner, I really appreciate it. :)
Thank you very much, I just opened my lyre. Can’t wait to get started! I received a strip, like a cling on strip of What looks like notes in my package with my tuner. I don’t know what I’m supposed to to do with it?
Do you mean a set of small sticker labels, each with a letter note on them? This would be for sticking onto the lyre to help identify the strings for lyres that don't already have the letter notes written on them.
Thank you! I've only ever used budget lyres that are mass-produced and I have a video comparing 3 common models: ua-cam.com/video/m3z4OBTDTDQ/v-deo.html . Hope it helps!
Just recently got a lyre for Christmas. Unfortunately when trying to tune it, a5 snapped on me twice before I could get it to reach a5 on the tuning app. Really demoralizing, but I’m gonna try to get replacement strings in soon!
Hi, I'm new to playing lyre harp😅. I download the chromatic tuner app and I have a question.. do you need to change anything in the settings of the app?
Hi sam i got my first lyre it's a 19 string cega lyre so i was wondering what precision did u pick and the pitch detection algorithm (u can find it at the chroma app) just asking
Hi Sam, which design is better, is it the one same as yours or the one with reindeer? Cause I'd like to buy one but I don't know if its design has something to do with their volume when played. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks!
Hi! There isn't a significant difference in volume between the lyres I own. It mostly depends on how hard I play the strings. But you're right that design does affect the sound. You can take a look at my other video where I compared three common lyres: ua-cam.com/video/m3z4OBTDTDQ/v-deo.html . I think it's going to help you.
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you for your response. It really helped. I like the hollow round better. 😁 But the shop I'm looking at now has 16 and 19 strings options. Any thoughts on this? Thank you.
@@graciouscena5188 Both 16 and 19 are great for beginners. I recommend checking the reviews of the shop you're looking at for any negative feedback on either one. I've seen photos where lyres with more strings have broken in the middle. These lyres were 'triangular' shaped, like a standing harp. If you stay away from those, you should be safe.
@@SamanthaonMars This is noted, thank you so much, Sam. You helped me a lot. May I request more Christian songs please? But I'd like to play these first, "As the deer", "Bless the Lord oh my soul", "Lord I need, You (Chris Tomlin), "Thank you, Lord (Don Moen", "Our Father (Don Moen)" and "I exalt Thee slow version". I know it's a lot but I hope you could upload videos playing these songs. Thank you, Sam. Bless you more.
@@graciouscena5188 "As The Deer" has been covered by Janine Faye in her tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/gehFHkFg96k/v-deo.html . I'm not very familiar with Christian songs myself, but I hope Janine's video helps you.
Thank you tons for this tutorial! I have an issue with my new Lyre though, I got it yesterday and was able to tune everything perfectly except for my F4 and G4 strings. The moment I take off the tuning wrench they start turning counter clockwise and lower the tune to F flat and F sharp respectively. Is there a way I can stop them from doing that?
Hi. Since you only have the lyre for one day, I'd give it at least a week of tuning, to see if the two strings will settle. If they don't, the tuning pegs may be too loose. Sharon Brownell has a tutorial on fixing loose pegs by yourself. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/40jQsL00tgg/v-deo.html . Hope it works out!
I'm just saying, tuning a Timpinia is easier and you can do a "also sprach zarathustra" on it to prove to your parents you're not a disappointment. Well, usually. Didn't work for me, but I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact I spent their retirement fund on 4 drums in a crowded apartment....
You're welcome! 😊 When it comes to chords, I just experiment around to find the notes that sound nice together. I have yet to find a systematic way to do it.
From what I've heard, it's not uncommon to have to change a string on a new lyre. One thing to keep in mind is that a small movement of the hand can result in a large movement in the tuning peg. So it's best to go slow and take small steps when tuning.
The strings are usually loosened to prevent breakage in transit. So straight out of the box, they would sound very far from what they're supposed to be. I'd say to tune them first. You can actually start playing right after, but expect to tune them again when they get out of tune. This process will repeat for the first few days. And you'll feel the strings beginning to get stable.
I’m tuning correctly, however I’m very unsure on one of your tutorial songs I’m trying to play. What are the little 1’s next to the notes? Do they stand for a higher pitch towards # as I noticed you tuned your G4 to G#? I’m really new at any instrument and when I play it sounds off.
Hello, do you mean an apostrophe ( ' ) or comma ( , ) next to the notes? Since notes repeat themselves in the cycle of CDEFGAB, there can be multiple strings with the same letter note on a lyre. To distinguish which one to play, I use these little marks. An apostrophe ( ' ) represents a higher pitched note, a comma ( , ) a lower pitch, and no punctuations means in the middle. So, all the notes (from low pitch to high pitch) on a typical 16-string lyre are represented like this: G, A, B, C D E F G A B C' D' E' F' G' A' G3 A3 B3 C4 D4 E4 F4 G4 A4 B4 C5 D5 E5 F5 G5 A5 The numbers are the octave numbers, another way to represent the pitch. Sharps and flats would be presented the same as standard music notation which are ( # ) and ( b ) respectively.
@@SamanthaonMars thank you! I thought so, I can’t seem to get mine to sound quite right. My A B C’ sound wrong for some reason. I will try and retune again and see where I’m at with it. Thank you for replying and clarifying. I love your tutorials and your playing. :)
Hii! This is greatt but since I am a total beginner, how do I use the app? I tried to follow but I just cant get the right pitch. For an example, the lowest G, on the app it always show a G with a # instead of just a G. This must have been me and I just could not figure out why? Can you please help me?😭😭
Hi. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "numbers" and "plane". 😅 Do you mean the number notation commonly used with kalimbas? 1 equals C, 2 equals D, 3 equals E, etc.
Hi. G major consists of the notes G、A、B、C、D、E、F#、G. To tune to G major, just change all the F to F#. Most of my songs are in C major, which has no sharps or flats.
Hello! I just got my lyre today and I tried tuning it, I was wondering if it's normal for it to go out of tune after a few minutes? Is it most likely because of loose pins or the strings being new, it just needed more time to stabilise? Tysm!!
@@applepi5100 I would check which strings are out of tune, and tune them up. To get to the exact pitch, I may tune them a little down and adjust, but just a little. The first day I got my lyre, I remember tuning it whenever I hear a string went out of tune. It happened often so it was tedious, LOL! From day 2, I think I tuned whenever I remembered and when I had free time. Then, there came a point when I noticed the strings stopped being so annoying, LOL. That's when they started to be stable.
Hey just saw your vid, beginner here I have a question. Can a lyre play almost any songs? And if a song is super low/high, do I have to adjust the strings to fit the tune of the song whenever I play?
Hi Claire! It depends on the lyre. This lyre has 16 strings, which is a fair range for lots of songs but not all songs. While you can adjust a string to a higher or lower pitch, there's only so far it can go. Too high, the string will break. Too low, the string won't sound at all. What you can do is play the same note in whatever octave that's available on the lyre. It's a compromise but you'll most likely still be able to recognize the melody. But the biggest limitation is the diatonic scale, which almost all lyres in this size and price range have. Diatonic means just the white keys of a piano, without the black keys. To work around this limitation, I arrange songs to C major (G major or F major) to minimize having to retune the strings. Still, it doesn't work for songs that require lots of black keys to play. Some songs are just not playable. :( There are lyres that are chromatic (having both white and black keys of a piano). They're usually much bulkier, with 30+ strings, and also pricier. They also require different skill sets to play.
@@SamanthaonMars wow this is super helpful tysm. I just bought a 16 strings lyre and as if trying to tune a lyre isn't hard enough ( but I did it ), I realized I don't have that much talent when it comes to composing the notes for a song :( I tried with "Let you down" from edgerunners but after 3 hours of trying all I have is a pretty bad neck pain from looking down the lyre way too much, the note sounded weird, also I hurt my fingers trying :((. Do you have any tips for writing songs, since I saw your channel and you're amazing
@@claire7038 The lyre sounding weird could be the strings getting out of tune. Very common for new lyres. Tune every day and the strings should start to settle in a week. I play by ear most of the time. I think you may trying looking for tutorials for other instruments. If they're written in C major that's excellent because you don't have to re-tune the strings to other notes. Perhaps this tutorial for "Let you down" will help? ua-cam.com/video/Ye_DxmoOztc/v-deo.html
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you so much. I used it, just in case that was what it was (remembered there is music all around...🥰 ) and just plucked the notes, 1 at a time to tune. Thank you so much for all your help, dear. ❤️🤗
I just see your message. Is this still a problem for you? The app may not be sensitive enough on some phones. If that's the case you may have to try another tuner app.
On a piano i always sharpen and loosen to pitch, on a guitar or worm geared instrument or a friction instrument (violin etc) i go flat and sharpen to pitch. These look more like piano tuners, but is there any technique that is better?
The tuning wrench that came with the lyre doesn't give me a lot control as I would like. Even the smallest movements could change the pitch a long way. For this reason, I would flatten first to prevent the strings from breaking.
Samantha on Mars a nice trick for more control is to put a small pipe on the wrench to add leverage to decrease effort. What ever fits. I use a metal straw over my truss rod allen wrench. An old windchime piece might work for this little wrench. Any long tubing. A hardware store would have small pipes in varying sizes for a few dollars.
Im a little confused,, I have a 17 string lyre harp and im not sure what string note it should start with (im very new) I dont know if its G3 or F3, I tried tuning it with the first note being F3 ending in B5 but it sounds very strange and the strings dont produce a nice sound
Hi. Usually, the seller would specify on their website what each string should be tuned to. What did they say on their website? Better check with the seller / manufacturer about this. The lyre & strings can only withhold a certain amount of tension and we don't want to over-stretch the strings or they may break.
@@SamanthaonMars yea thats the thing :( I tuned it to how they said on the website but the strings sound super off/dull even when tuned correctly according to their website, ive tried messaging the seller about it but they never responded, could it be just the strings?? maybe I should restring the whole Lyre? Because it definitely does not sound as nice as yours ;-;
@@whocare1878 Is it the moon lyre from miniarpturkiye? Without seeing the lyre, it's hard to know the problem. It could be one of these reasons. (1) New strings need time to settle. Happens a lot with new lyres that they get out of tune quickly. The solution is to tune every day. My lyres all settled around a week. (2) You said the lyre had 17 strings? I was counting from F3 to B5 and there are 18 notes. Maybe the seller's instructions were wrong? (3) The lyre could be poorly constructed. In this case I hope the seller replies to you on the next steps.
@@SamanthaonMars yes the moon lyre is from miniarptukiye ^-^ on the selling listing it says to tune F3, G3, A3, B3, C4, D4, E4, F4, G4, A4, B4, C5, D5, E5, F5, A5, B5, but it also says that it starts with G3 and ends in A5 which is why im a little confused :( is there just a note missing??? i'll try to tune it everyday to see if that helps the sound
@@whocare1878 The note G5 is missing in the sequence. If the lyre starts with F3, the last two strings should be G5 and A5. But if the lyre starts with G3, the last note would be B5. I hope it works out for you.
Hi Alice. Sorry for the late reply. There were some comments I missed and I'm only getting to them now. My bad! 😅 I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean when using the tuning app? Please tell me more if you still have this problem. I also made another video, a demo on the insTuner app on iOS. Not sure if you use an iOS device but here it is: ua-cam.com/video/06q-poqZr9E/v-deo.html .
@@SamanthaonMars I'm so sorry I should have been more specific. I just bought new strings because I'm new to the lyre scene. I see a tag at the end of my new strings numbered 1-16. What do they mean?
@@TheRokuhazzaku No problem. On my set of strings, the number is the string's position on the lyre. I don't know if yours are the same, but if you arrange the strings by their number tags, and they line up in order of thickness, then yes, the tags are the positions.
@SamanthaonMars I'm still waiting for my refund request to be approved. If it got declined, I might as well try to fix it with wood glue. Somebody on reddit said that I turned the peg too hard, and it resulted in cracking. After fixing, I then will switch to nylon since they're more softer than brass strings to avoid the damage getting worse of course, haha
Did I poke my thumb with a string and bleed all over the lyre…. Maybbeee. Should have watched your great video first and then maybe I wouldn’t have been poked lol
The best tuner I've used is Cherub. I bought it from Lazada when it was cheap, then gave it to my sister cause she was learning the ukulele, not realizing that it would be expensive to buy later. Why? Because with Cherub, you can get the tone of what you are tuning played back to you! For example, if I'm tuning the C string of an ukulele, and I played it in front of the tuner, not only the light would flash to indicate it's sharp or flat, but seconds after, a C tone would play. This will make you try and match the appropriate tone and string, thus you're training your ear as well. I guess that people got to know the advantage of this tuner, and this makes it valuable.
@@SamanthaonMars You're welcome. The model is Cherub WMT-555C Metro-Tuner. There are videos on how to use it on You Tube, but it doesn't show all the bells and whistles of it. Chromatically, it would detect notes between 2A to 6A, so it would suffice for a 16 strings lyre that has a note span between 3G to 5A. I actually feel bad about giving the tuner away, but it was a brotherly sacrifice... I hope my sister would cherish it. By the way, how do you fix a slipping tuning peg on a lyre? I have come to know that having a good instrument without proper maintenance and troubleshooting technique is the No.1 hindrance to being a good musician. So, maybe you could enlighten us on those things!
@@kairinase To describe gifting the tuner as a sacrifice, I see how much it means to you! I see it on sale on Amazon. Perhaps get one for yourself this Christmas? I'm lucky to not have encountered a slipping peg with my 4 lyres, so I can only refer to others for their expertise. Sharon from Learning the Lyre Harp has made a video illustrating a fix to this problem. The link's here: ua-cam.com/video/40jQsL00tgg/v-deo.html . Hope it helps!
@@SamanthaonMars About Christmas, I'm a Muslim, so I don't celebrate it... But don't worry, If you come to Malaysia, you'll find that the Christmas spirit is much more stronger here than some European countries. There's many activities that you can do. In fact, most tourists came here to get away from the cold winter; that's what they used to do, before the Pandemic The problem is, during that time of the year, things got more expensive. I like watching videos where people cover songs from animes and games, and that influenced me to play music.(although I never got anywhere doing it) It's one of the reasons that brought me to this channel.(the other is You Tube's recommendation) If you're doing cover for anime songs, I suggest that you check out "Gundam Seed" and "Gundam Seed Destiny" 's soundtrack. They have sentimental songs that I'm sure would sound good on any instruments. In fact, most of the channels that covered anime songs would at least have a few songs from the series in their channels. Gundam Seed's best tunes are: Akatsuki no Kuruma, Anna ni Issho datta no ni(this one sounds great on piano),Find The Way, and the all time favorite: Shizukana Yoru Ni. Gundam Seed Destiny has more songs, but the one that's captures everyone's heart is Fields of Hope. If you play by ear, then I recommend that you look for MIDI in a website called animelyrics. com. It has been around for ages, and it's my go-to website when I look for English translation of anime songs. Well, that's what I can tell you for now. Thank you for reading and responding to my comments.
@@kairinase I've only been to Malaysia during the summer so I didn't get to experience Christmas there. Instead I saw the beautiful forest and countryside, as well as the vibrant city that is KL. Thanks for introducing me to these songs. I'll check them out.
i just ordered my lyre harph and honestly you inspired me to get it. i found your channel a week ago and i've watched so many of ur videos! pls keep the content up, it's amazing
i would advise that when turning a string to ALWAYS tune UP to the note you want. When you loosen a string the pitch will continue to drop because it will keep relaxing. So if you need to lower the pitch it's best to loosen the string lower than you need and then tighten back UP to the pitch you needed.
I've never thought about that. Thanks for the helpful tip!
Then you wouldnt be following your lyre's cord. bruh moment
Oh my GOD I've been struggling with the remote tuner that came with my kit and the app had me fully tuned in less than 10 minutes 😅 can't wait to finally start
I'm glad my video helped! Thank you for watching and commenting. :)
Girl... I just got a lyre nearly identical to yours and you are go to, to learn all about it. So grateful for your videos. That explains why mine sounds so off. I thought I was just playing it so badly
The lyre probably sounds the worst the first day you got it. With daily tuning it'll get better. Glad my video helped!
My Lyre just arrived in the mail today. I'm so excited
Yay! How exciting! Which one did you get?
Thank you for this video! I was getting so demoralized at first and I broke a couple strings (lol) but this gave me a lot of insight
Thank you, just got a harp for my birthday
You're so welcome. :) Happy birthday!
Thank you so much for this Samantha!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thanks for watching my videos! I'm so glad you have a lyre now. Enjoy!
Nice video this Will help soo many ppl. Just reding all the coments in your video is that you rilly inspired alot of ppl to start playing harp and im One of Them you inspired
The love of music is one of the best things a person can have imo. The world is a little more peaceful when people listen to music. I'm so happy you find my videos inspiring!
Thank you! Excellent tutorial. I just got my first harp today and I'm eager to start tuning!
Glad it helped! =)
I just found your channel and since I am about to order a lyre this is very helpful! thanks a lot
Glad it helped! =)
Got myself a lyre harp after watching your videos and gosh its a beautiful instrument
I'm glad you enjoy your instrument! The lyre is truly beautiful in looks and sound. Which one did you get?
@@SamanthaonMars i got a 16 string lyre harp, i dont know how to explain but it's the one with lighter wood on your comparison videos
@@joylawes3591 That's a good lyre! I wish it will bring you happiness and joy! Happy holidays!
After almost 3 days of looking videos in UA-cam finally this was the video that helped me to setup my 10 string lyre with the ios app Tuner T1. Thank you so much for this video!
Happy to help! :)
Thank you so much for this!! Start to get very frustrated as to why mine wont stay in tune
You're welcome! :)
Hello! Thanks for posting this. I just bought a donner 10 string lyre, and I'm a little confused by my booklet instructions. The notes range from E4 to G5, but the string feels very, very taunt when I try to get it to those notes. I'm worried I'll break the string, so I've just been doing E3 instead of E4, F3 instead of F4, and so on. Am I worried for nothing or should I really be tuning it differently than what the booklet says?
(in case you can't tell, I'm a complete beginner to understanding music and instruments so any advice would be lovely)
Hello! It should be safe to tune to the range specified by the manufacturer. The strings will get tighter the closer they are to the target notes. If you're worried, take it slowly. Oh, and make sure your room is quiet enough so the tuner shows the right range. My experience is that background noise can make the reading jump a full range, such as from a 4 to a 5. =)
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you for the prompt reply! I feel a lot more confident about tuning my lyre now
if I have a 10 string can I just use g, a, b, c d e f g a b if not what is the the correct tuning for a 10 string, (sidnote: ur a lifesaver i think ur the only channel who makes these kind of vids/tutorials thank u so much💕💕)
Hi. I'm so happy you find my videos helpful. Does the manufacturer say which notes to tune your lyre to? How a note sounds depends on the string's thickness, length, material, and tension. You can adjust the tension but go overboard and the string breaks. It's safe to follow the manufacturer's specifications.
Hello, I just got a new lyre and I'm struggling a lot with tuning, lol. Even in a quiet area, I can only get my first G string to G4 and it feels ready to snap. I've actually already broken a few strings trying to tune them to the right notes. Do you have any advice? I've had my new lyre for a day now, so I'm not sure if I was supposed to wait for the strings to slowly stretch or if I'm doing something wrong. I'm kind of concerned and I don't know a whole lot about music in general (I only play the kalimba right now).
Thank you in advance!
Hello. Breaking a few strings doesn't sound normal. I'm thinking if the factory default is too far from the notes you're trying to tune to. Which lyre do you have? What tuning did the manufacturer recommend? If a string is designed to hold E4 for example, it's safe to tune one up (F4) or down (D4), but going further could break the string. Also, some lyres put the higher strings on the left, whereas the one I have in this video put the higher on the right. If your lyre is like mine, the first G string should be G3 and not G4.
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you so much for replying! I have the Aklot 16 String Hollow Round Lyre Harp. From my understanding of videos I've watched, the largest G string is designed to hold G3. Even after letting it sit a day at G4, I don't think it can go up one without breaking.
Another odd thing is that even if those are the notes it's designed for, the largest A string couldn't even get close to A4 without snapping... I'm beginning to think I have a defective lyre, lol.
@@a.c.3318 G3 is lower than G4 (the smaller the number, the lower it is). By "largest" do you mean the thickest? If the thickest G string is at G4, loosen it so it goes down to G3. Similarly, the thickest A string (2nd from the left) should be A3 instead of A4.
@@SamanthaonMars Oh my. I think I just tuned it too tight right away. I got it to G3 and it's sounding great now. Thank you so much for your help and your quick replies!! As an absolute beginner, I really appreciate it. :)
@@a.c.3318 You're so welcome!
Thank you very much, I just opened my lyre. Can’t wait to get started!
I received a strip, like a cling on strip of What looks like notes in my package with my tuner. I don’t know what I’m supposed to to do with it?
Do you mean a set of small sticker labels, each with a letter note on them? This would be for sticking onto the lyre to help identify the strings for lyres that don't already have the letter notes written on them.
Thank you!
You're so welcome!
thanks, my lyre say thanks to you 🥰
Some great tips, thank you :)
Thank you so much for this Samantha.
You're so welcome! =)
Thank you🙏🌹
This is exactly what I needed.
My lyre harp just arrived and you were right it does need a lot of tuning 😅
I know the pain! Haha.
Thank you!!!
I'm keen to get a nice lyre, as a total beginner, do you have any recommendations? Yours sounds so good!
Thank you! I've only ever used budget lyres that are mass-produced and I have a video comparing 3 common models: ua-cam.com/video/m3z4OBTDTDQ/v-deo.html . Hope it helps!
Just recently got a lyre for Christmas. Unfortunately when trying to tune it, a5 snapped on me twice before I could get it to reach a5 on the tuning app. Really demoralizing, but I’m gonna try to get replacement strings in soon!
That's unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that it happened. I hope you'll be able to return and get a new lyre.
Finally, nowI can play like Orpheus xD thanks
Hi, I'm new to playing lyre harp😅. I download the chromatic tuner app and I have a question.. do you need to change anything in the settings of the app?
Ooooo. This was good to know.
Hi sam i got my first lyre it's a 19 string cega lyre so i was wondering what precision did u pick and the pitch detection algorithm (u can find it at the chroma app) just asking
Thanks 😊, this is very helpful
❤God bless you
woah this was such a big help thank you
Glad it helped! 😃
Hi Sam, which design is better, is it the one same as yours or the one with reindeer? Cause I'd like to buy one but I don't know if its design has something to do with their volume when played. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks!
Hi! There isn't a significant difference in volume between the lyres I own. It mostly depends on how hard I play the strings. But you're right that design does affect the sound. You can take a look at my other video where I compared three common lyres: ua-cam.com/video/m3z4OBTDTDQ/v-deo.html . I think it's going to help you.
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you for your response. It really helped. I like the hollow round better. 😁 But the shop I'm looking at now has 16 and 19 strings options. Any thoughts on this? Thank you.
@@graciouscena5188 Both 16 and 19 are great for beginners. I recommend checking the reviews of the shop you're looking at for any negative feedback on either one. I've seen photos where lyres with more strings have broken in the middle. These lyres were 'triangular' shaped, like a standing harp. If you stay away from those, you should be safe.
@@SamanthaonMars This is noted, thank you so much, Sam. You helped me a lot. May I request more Christian songs please? But I'd like to play these first, "As the deer", "Bless the Lord oh my soul", "Lord I need, You (Chris Tomlin), "Thank you, Lord (Don Moen", "Our Father (Don Moen)" and "I exalt Thee slow version". I know it's a lot but I hope you could upload videos playing these songs. Thank you, Sam. Bless you more.
@@graciouscena5188 "As The Deer" has been covered by Janine Faye in her tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/gehFHkFg96k/v-deo.html . I'm not very familiar with Christian songs myself, but I hope Janine's video helps you.
EEEE OMG THANK YOUUU :D
Would it be possible if you replied with the Hz of each tuning peg?
Now you have to make a tutorial on how to put on cords again XD because mine just raptured while I tried to tune and I don't know what do with it XD
Thank you tons for this tutorial! I have an issue with my new Lyre though, I got it yesterday and was able to tune everything perfectly except for my F4 and G4 strings. The moment I take off the tuning wrench they start turning counter clockwise and lower the tune to F flat and F sharp respectively. Is there a way I can stop them from doing that?
Hi. Since you only have the lyre for one day, I'd give it at least a week of tuning, to see if the two strings will settle. If they don't, the tuning pegs may be too loose. Sharon Brownell has a tutorial on fixing loose pegs by yourself. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/40jQsL00tgg/v-deo.html . Hope it works out!
I'm just saying, tuning a Timpinia is easier and you can do a "also sprach zarathustra" on it to prove to your parents you're not a disappointment.
Well, usually. Didn't work for me, but I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact I spent their retirement fund on 4 drums in a crowded apartment....
I didn't know drums need tuning. Thanks for letting me know. I wouldn't want 4 drums in my apartment too, lol.
Thanks a lot! Especially for the app) Can you please make the tutorial about chords?
You're welcome! 😊 When it comes to chords, I just experiment around to find the notes that sound nice together. I have yet to find a systematic way to do it.
I had to chang one string on my new lyre cause I keep tuning it but thx for the advise
From what I've heard, it's not uncommon to have to change a string on a new lyre. One thing to keep in mind is that a small movement of the hand can result in a large movement in the tuning peg. So it's best to go slow and take small steps when tuning.
Thank you❤
You're welcome! Happy holidays!
Thankyou!
You're so welcome!
So for totally brand new lyres (straight out of the package) should I not play them first, and tune them first?
The strings are usually loosened to prevent breakage in transit. So straight out of the box, they would sound very far from what they're supposed to be. I'd say to tune them first. You can actually start playing right after, but expect to tune them again when they get out of tune. This process will repeat for the first few days. And you'll feel the strings beginning to get stable.
I’m tuning correctly, however I’m very unsure on one of your tutorial songs I’m trying to play. What are the little 1’s next to the notes? Do they stand for a higher pitch towards # as I noticed you tuned your G4 to G#? I’m really new at any instrument and when I play it sounds off.
Hello, do you mean an apostrophe ( ' ) or comma ( , ) next to the notes? Since notes repeat themselves in the cycle of CDEFGAB, there can be multiple strings with the same letter note on a lyre. To distinguish which one to play, I use these little marks. An apostrophe ( ' ) represents a higher pitched note, a comma ( , ) a lower pitch, and no punctuations means in the middle. So, all the notes (from low pitch to high pitch) on a typical 16-string lyre are represented like this:
G, A, B, C D E F G A B C' D' E' F' G' A'
G3 A3 B3 C4 D4 E4 F4 G4 A4 B4 C5 D5 E5 F5 G5 A5
The numbers are the octave numbers, another way to represent the pitch. Sharps and flats would be presented the same as standard music notation which are ( # ) and ( b ) respectively.
@@SamanthaonMars thank you! I thought so, I can’t seem to get mine to sound quite right. My A B C’ sound wrong for some reason. I will try and retune again and see where I’m at with it. Thank you for replying and clarifying. I love your tutorials and your playing. :)
@@joancollins3457 I hope it works out for you. Thank you! 😃
I have a 21 string lyre,this app for android is not available the chroma ,can you suggest another free app?
The app G strings works too.
Hii!
This is greatt but since I am a total beginner, how do I use the app? I tried to follow but I just cant get the right pitch. For an example, the lowest G, on the app it always show a G with a # instead of just a G. This must have been me and I just could not figure out why? Can you please help me?😭😭
G# is higher than G (# means higher). I think you need to loosen your string a little so the app shows G or G3 with no #.
@@SamanthaonMars Ohh i see, Thank youuu veryy much, Samanthaa!
You are so kindd
@@shakirshafiqzainuddin9372 =)
Hello how does yours have the notes on the Lyre? I have the exact one it seems but they are not there…😑
I think they removed the notes in later models :(
What is the difference between letters containing "#" , for example G#3 and G3?
It's a sharp. G# is G sharp.
I have a 19 string would I use the tuning with the numbers or the ones that are plane?
Hi. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "numbers" and "plane". 😅 Do you mean the number notation commonly used with kalimbas? 1 equals C, 2 equals D, 3 equals E, etc.
@@SamanthaonMars oooh I got thank you I think I figured it out sorry to bother you 😅
@@kalimbawithmycats8899 No problem at all =)
I’m quite new but, how do I tune to G Major? I can’t really tell to what i’m tuning in but it aligns with your other songs on the channel.
Hi. G major consists of the notes G、A、B、C、D、E、F#、G. To tune to G major, just change all the F to F#. Most of my songs are in C major, which has no sharps or flats.
@@SamanthaonMars Oh okay thanks a lot! Your channel has been a great help❤️
@@sawoomi6737 Glad you found my videos helpful!
Hello! I just got my lyre today and I tried tuning it, I was wondering if it's normal for it to go out of tune after a few minutes? Is it most likely because of loose pins or the strings being new, it just needed more time to stabilise? Tysm!!
Yes, it’s typical for new lyres. New strings are still “stretchy”. Tune every day, and the strings should stabilise in a week
@@SamanthaonMars How exactly will I tune it everyday? Do I have to tune it down and tune it back up again and repeat until it's stable?
@@applepi5100 I would check which strings are out of tune, and tune them up. To get to the exact pitch, I may tune them a little down and adjust, but just a little. The first day I got my lyre, I remember tuning it whenever I hear a string went out of tune. It happened often so it was tedious, LOL! From day 2, I think I tuned whenever I remembered and when I had free time. Then, there came a point when I noticed the strings stopped being so annoying, LOL. That's when they started to be stable.
@@SamanthaonMars Got it, thank you so much!!
@@applepi5100 You're welcome!
Hey just saw your vid, beginner here I have a question. Can a lyre play almost any songs? And if a song is super low/high, do I have to adjust the strings to fit the tune of the song whenever I play?
Hi Claire! It depends on the lyre. This lyre has 16 strings, which is a fair range for lots of songs but not all songs. While you can adjust a string to a higher or lower pitch, there's only so far it can go. Too high, the string will break. Too low, the string won't sound at all. What you can do is play the same note in whatever octave that's available on the lyre. It's a compromise but you'll most likely still be able to recognize the melody. But the biggest limitation is the diatonic scale, which almost all lyres in this size and price range have. Diatonic means just the white keys of a piano, without the black keys. To work around this limitation, I arrange songs to C major (G major or F major) to minimize having to retune the strings. Still, it doesn't work for songs that require lots of black keys to play. Some songs are just not playable. :( There are lyres that are chromatic (having both white and black keys of a piano). They're usually much bulkier, with 30+ strings, and also pricier. They also require different skill sets to play.
@@SamanthaonMars wow this is super helpful tysm. I just bought a 16 strings lyre and as if trying to tune a lyre isn't hard enough ( but I did it ), I realized I don't have that much talent when it comes to composing the notes for a song :( I tried with "Let you down" from edgerunners but after 3 hours of trying all I have is a pretty bad neck pain from looking down the lyre way too much, the note sounded weird, also I hurt my fingers trying :((. Do you have any tips for writing songs, since I saw your channel and you're amazing
@@claire7038 The lyre sounding weird could be the strings getting out of tune. Very common for new lyres. Tune every day and the strings should start to settle in a week. I play by ear most of the time. I think you may trying looking for tutorials for other instruments. If they're written in C major that's excellent because you don't have to re-tune the strings to other notes. Perhaps this tutorial for "Let you down" will help? ua-cam.com/video/Ye_DxmoOztc/v-deo.html
Can i use a guitar tuner for tuning my lyre? Since i plan on buying both instruments
If it's a chromatic tuner it should be fine. Beware of tuners that only give you the 6 guitar strings.
@@SamanthaonMars Oh,ok thanks ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ🥰
Thank you for this!! I downloaded the Chroma App and it is jumping with different notes before I even try to tune. Is this normal?
The app is probably detecting the background sounds. For example, someone talking, a car passing by, could trigger the needle.
@@SamanthaonMars Thank you so much. I used it, just in case that was what it was (remembered there is music all around...🥰 ) and just plucked the notes, 1 at a time to tune. Thank you so much for all your help, dear. ❤️🤗
@@JenS.-3 Happy to help!
I'm so confused about the ins tuner app. The e and f strings keep being tuned to a flat and there's no just regular E5. It sounds horrible.
I just see your message. Is this still a problem for you? The app may not be sensitive enough on some phones. If that's the case you may have to try another tuner app.
I already have a tuner but its set to 440 for the violin, what number should i put it for the lyre? :0
Mine is also 440 Hz.
On a piano i always sharpen and loosen to pitch, on a guitar or worm geared instrument or a friction instrument (violin etc) i go flat and sharpen to pitch. These look more like piano tuners, but is there any technique that is better?
The tuning wrench that came with the lyre doesn't give me a lot control as I would like. Even the smallest movements could change the pitch a long way. For this reason, I would flatten first to prevent the strings from breaking.
Samantha on Mars a nice trick for more control is to put a small pipe on the wrench to add leverage to decrease effort. What ever fits. I use a metal straw over my truss rod allen wrench. An old windchime piece might work for this little wrench. Any long tubing. A hardware store would have small pipes in varying sizes for a few dollars.
@@littlecabininthebigwoods5720 Thanks! This is going to help.
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Hello, friend!
Im a little confused,, I have a 17 string lyre harp and im not sure what string note it should start with (im very new) I dont know if its G3 or F3, I tried tuning it with the first note being F3 ending in B5 but it sounds very strange and the strings dont produce a nice sound
Hi. Usually, the seller would specify on their website what each string should be tuned to. What did they say on their website? Better check with the seller / manufacturer about this. The lyre & strings can only withhold a certain amount of tension and we don't want to over-stretch the strings or they may break.
@@SamanthaonMars yea thats the thing :( I tuned it to how they said on the website but the strings sound super off/dull even when tuned correctly according to their website, ive tried messaging the seller about it but they never responded, could it be just the strings?? maybe I should restring the whole Lyre? Because it definitely does not sound as nice as yours ;-;
@@whocare1878 Is it the moon lyre from miniarpturkiye? Without seeing the lyre, it's hard to know the problem. It could be one of these reasons.
(1) New strings need time to settle. Happens a lot with new lyres that they get out of tune quickly. The solution is to tune every day. My lyres all settled around a week.
(2) You said the lyre had 17 strings? I was counting from F3 to B5 and there are 18 notes. Maybe the seller's instructions were wrong?
(3) The lyre could be poorly constructed. In this case I hope the seller replies to you on the next steps.
@@SamanthaonMars yes the moon lyre is from miniarptukiye ^-^ on the selling listing it says to tune F3, G3, A3, B3, C4, D4, E4, F4, G4, A4, B4, C5, D5, E5, F5, A5, B5, but it also says that it starts with G3 and ends in A5 which is why im a little confused :( is there just a note missing???
i'll try to tune it everyday to see if that helps the sound
@@whocare1878 The note G5 is missing in the sequence. If the lyre starts with F3, the last two strings should be G5 and A5. But if the lyre starts with G3, the last note would be B5. I hope it works out for you.
I can't seem to get each string right. It's making me nuts
I know what you mean. It can be a painstaking process in the beginning.
How would you tune it if you have 19 strings?
The seller would tell you which notes the 19 strings should be. It's usually in the product page, or product description.
@@SamanthaonMars ty!
@@SamanthaonMars by any chance do you know why some of my strings on the left of my lyre sound shaky?
But how do we know it's the right tune ?
Hi Alice. Sorry for the late reply. There were some comments I missed and I'm only getting to them now. My bad! 😅 I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean when using the tuning app? Please tell me more if you still have this problem. I also made another video, a demo on the insTuner app on iOS. Not sure if you use an iOS device but here it is: ua-cam.com/video/06q-poqZr9E/v-deo.html .
What do the number tags on the strings mean?
The numbers at 02:10? They indicate the octave. G4 is one octave above G3, and G5 is one octave above G4. The bigger the number, the higher the pitch.
@@SamanthaonMars I'm so sorry I should have been more specific. I just bought new strings because I'm new to the lyre scene. I see a tag at the end of my new strings numbered 1-16. What do they mean?
@@TheRokuhazzaku No problem. On my set of strings, the number is the string's position on the lyre. I don't know if yours are the same, but if you arrange the strings by their number tags, and they line up in order of thickness, then yes, the tags are the positions.
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When I try to tune another string the other string changes tone. It annoys me lol idk what to do
Is your lyre new? This is normal for new strings. They need time and daily tuning to get used to the new tension. I understand the frustration, lol.
@SamanthaonMars yeahh it's new haha. The lyre itself actually cracked. I might switch the strings to nylon
@@condoria1496 Oh no, I'm sorry to hear it cracked. Can you return it and get a new one? Even if you change the strings the crack will still be there.
@SamanthaonMars I'm still waiting for my refund request to be approved. If it got declined, I might as well try to fix it with wood glue. Somebody on reddit said that I turned the peg too hard, and it resulted in cracking. After fixing, I then will switch to nylon since they're more softer than brass strings to avoid the damage getting worse of course, haha
Did I poke my thumb with a string and bleed all over the lyre…. Maybbeee. Should have watched your great video first and then maybe I wouldn’t have been poked lol
The best tuner I've used is Cherub. I bought it from Lazada when it was cheap, then gave it to my sister cause she was learning the ukulele, not realizing that it would be expensive to buy later.
Why? Because with Cherub, you can get the tone of what you are tuning played back to you!
For example, if I'm tuning the C string of an ukulele, and I played it in front of the tuner, not only the light would flash to indicate it's sharp or flat, but seconds after, a C tone would play.
This will make you try and match the appropriate tone and string, thus you're training your ear as well.
I guess that people got to know the advantage of this tuner, and this makes it valuable.
Thanks for spreading good information. I had no idea about the Cherub metronome. Happy you stopped by and chimed in.
@@SamanthaonMars You're welcome. The model is Cherub WMT-555C Metro-Tuner. There are videos on how to use it on You Tube, but it doesn't show all the bells and whistles of it.
Chromatically, it would detect notes between 2A to 6A, so it would suffice for a 16 strings lyre that has a note span between 3G to 5A.
I actually feel bad about giving the tuner away, but it was a brotherly sacrifice... I hope my sister would cherish it.
By the way, how do you fix a slipping tuning peg on a lyre?
I have come to know that having a good instrument without proper maintenance and troubleshooting technique is the No.1 hindrance to being a good musician.
So, maybe you could enlighten us on those things!
@@kairinase To describe gifting the tuner as a sacrifice, I see how much it means to you! I see it on sale on Amazon. Perhaps get one for yourself this Christmas?
I'm lucky to not have encountered a slipping peg with my 4 lyres, so I can only refer to others for their expertise. Sharon from Learning the Lyre Harp has made a video illustrating a fix to this problem. The link's here: ua-cam.com/video/40jQsL00tgg/v-deo.html . Hope it helps!
@@SamanthaonMars About Christmas, I'm a Muslim, so I don't celebrate it... But don't worry, If you come to Malaysia, you'll find that the Christmas spirit is much more stronger here than some European countries.
There's many activities that you can do. In fact, most tourists came here to get away from the cold winter; that's what they used to do, before the Pandemic
The problem is, during that time of the year, things got more expensive.
I like watching videos where people cover songs from animes and games, and that influenced me to play music.(although I never got anywhere doing it)
It's one of the reasons that brought me to this channel.(the other is You Tube's recommendation)
If you're doing cover for anime songs, I suggest that you check out "Gundam Seed" and "Gundam Seed Destiny" 's soundtrack.
They have sentimental songs that I'm sure would sound good on any instruments.
In fact, most of the channels that covered anime songs would at least have a few songs from the series in their channels.
Gundam Seed's best tunes are: Akatsuki no Kuruma, Anna ni Issho datta no ni(this one sounds great on piano),Find The Way, and the all time favorite: Shizukana Yoru Ni.
Gundam Seed Destiny has more songs, but the one that's captures everyone's heart is Fields of Hope.
If you play by ear, then I recommend that you look for MIDI in a website called animelyrics. com.
It has been around for ages, and it's my go-to website when I look for English translation of anime songs.
Well, that's what I can tell you for now. Thank you for reading and responding to my comments.
@@kairinase I've only been to Malaysia during the summer so I didn't get to experience Christmas there. Instead I saw the beautiful forest and countryside, as well as the vibrant city that is KL. Thanks for introducing me to these songs. I'll check them out.