Pacific P16 pulling grade with a load of logs (LOUD!!)
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Pacific P16 with a CAT 3406 engine pulling a short grade on its way down to the log sort.
Note the front wheels are turned and the truck is still wanting to go straight around :56, the power of these trucks and the weight they can pull is amazing
i just find it amazing how they stopped building these decades ago and they are still the dominant truck in logging
Built them too good lol.
@@shawnperry3900 Exactly, planned obsolescence is what keeps businesses in business. Build a product to be too durable and soon enough nobody will buy it anymore.
@@dsp4392 To make a good product and still make money requires 1. diversification and 2. selling things to the side... like upgrades, improvements, modularity, etc.
If something is good but you can keep improving the quality of life and keep raising the bar, you can keep making money because your products made the companies more money, they expanded, more entered the market... and now they have more money to spend on even more improvements you're selling!
It's complex, but doable. That is... if you care about improving an industry and making money at the same time.
@@shawnperry3900 where is this (place) is this an tropic forest🤔
Sorry for my bad english 🙁
@@niklashoglinger4831 Vancouver island British Columbia
This is me refusing to make a second trip to bring groceries in.
Here because of Snowrunner. I’m absolutely in love with the P16. Looks like the kind’ve truck you’d get from asking a kid to draw one. Just an absolute unit.
my favourite one in the game!
The Physics in the Game seem spot on too!, those Front Wheels aren’t doin nothin once the Rears get going.
@@davidmurphy8236 Very true. Can’t wait to see how it feels while logging in the upcoming update.
@@Just_Cuz_ did a Logging Task today - used My Freightliner 114SDs. Lots of Fun, but, not entirely perfect according to some...I’m looking forwards to other Log Jobs 👍
@@davidmurphy8236 Yeah it’d be cool if they added the machine that turn them into logs.
Pacific may have stopped building trucks, but they still service them. Edison Motors purchased a used one and Pacific reached out to them and asked if they needed any parts or blueprints for their specific truck. This is part of the basis for Edison’s core principles with their new trucks. No planned obsolescence and a right to repair for the owner of the truck to take it where ever it needs service. They are the modern Pacific and are building truck that will be logging just as long as Pacific trucks do.
More complicated = less reliable. Edison has an interesting idea, but making a truck less reliable and more expensive (even if it's slightly more efficient) isn't going to sell to the blue collar guys.
@@TehButterflyEffect modern eco laws are making trucks more complicated
The electric drive is nothing new its been around for decades most operations 4$ in diesel doesn't matter ,but what does is not breaking down.
The truth is is setting up a truck production line is not a easy task
The supply chain a money is no joke.stamping frame rail alone would take a year and probably 1 mil considering dies etc
@@TehButterflyEffectI agree its not even a new idea lots of mining trucks have diesel engines with electric drives
That engine must have an giant amount of torque! Crazy!
Also, who is also here because of snowrunner?
When W9's & 379's go to sleep, they have a poster of a P16 by their beds. :D
I can just hear the fuel tank draining lol
Actually I think the sound we hear as exhaust is really the fuel tank sucking in all the air to replace the fuel. Lol
Those things actually get good gas Mileage for what they do. Nothing like a car or a highway truck but compared to other trucks of the same size it’s not to bad
@@ashh2748 3406 is a 6 cylinder cat. stated in description
@@21babydew oh well my bad I’ll fix it. I didn’t read the description. I also didn’t know they would put v6s in those giant trucks, thanks for the info!
@@ashh2748 It's a straight six. 😉
Cat also uses variants of the 3406 in their articulated dump trucks.
It's all in the gears, that thing could probably climb a telephone pole if it could get enough traction
But could my 50cc scooter engine make that load move at that grade, if given the right gearing?
Comrade Bear I don't claim to be very knowledgeable about gear ratios but I'm sure a 50cc engine could move it but VERY VERY SLOW
@@davidprutzman8660 haha, so you mean like 1M or a couple of feet per hour?
@@eliaslundstedt5607 exactly
One googol
I always loved how you’ll see the load before ya see the rig when coming over hills, absolutely insane
I'm absolutely amazed at what humans have accomplished. This just blows my mind at how impressive this is and the power it creates.
White people did it
He picked the right gear, what a power house!! And quality driving as well
I’m in deep reduction
Likely an Allison Automatic
@@michaelpperraultNot a chance.
@@donziperk It's an Allison due to it coming to a craw and the RPM staying steady.
Allison and low
It's been portrayed exactly same in Snowrunner. Kudos to developers! Such a beast!
No it hasn't. If the P16 in Snowrunner had a load that heavy it wouldn't make it up that grade at all.
@@KurNorock For real. You'd have to winch onto something every ten yards.
@@unholyloaf haven't played all the maps but i think the main difference with snowrunner is that the ground is basically either 200% mud or 200% snow with no in-between.
@@enjoyingend1939 road
I worked at Columbia trailer in Burnaby in the 70's, we built these and large low beds etc. great education, from some very smart old guys.
That’s awesome! There’s not nearly as much of that old knowledge kicking around industry these days.
That’s pure power right there!
Silver 92 ain't too bad either . Love them old Detroits.
absolute beast of a rig. Hauling 2x a normal log truck load.
Quite a bit more than 2x.
@@elonmust7470 yep your average on highway logging truck carries what 40tons on average of course depends on what type of wood your carrying and the length. These haul 100+ tons lol
That is one clean burning 3406, not even a wee bit of smoke.
Dang. That gearing is INSANE!
Like, super-ultra-mega-low-granny-gears.
I love this truck (not this unit number) but I love pacific trucks. they always are well maintained and clean. I feel the owners love this truck and it's company. I'm a heavy vehicle mechanic in Langley BC
There's something about these trucks that the drivers are so proud of. I'm going to guess the equivalent as to a kid getting their first steel Tonka heavy equipment toy. Driving one of those,I would be a kid again with the coolest toy on the street, and treating it like gold. Cheers buddy, from down the freeway, (Chilliwack)
that's super awesome! I'm just obsesd with everything pacific!
Same here
now THAT is a life saving headache rack. Damn that is nice.
It's filled with water that's used to cool the brakes on the way down the hill.
FEEL THE POWER OF THE PACIFIC
That's some power!
The weight definitely seems maxed out.
That is what you call a pure power machine
@Adolf Hitler I thought you were dead
I’m concerned you’re so interested....
Should update your name to t Rump
@@hawaii3100 trump loves israel but ok
@@hawaii3100
shut up, what you think is woke is anti-Semitic.
This driver has balls of steel, steady hands and a lead foot! Nice driving
Fuel mileage might suck but when you need the job done right the first time
You know, I give humans a lot of shit in general and I mean a *LOT* of shit for a million different reasons I won't go into here. It's easy to do when you look around the world at the destruction and greed that seems to flow so effortlessly out of us. But once in a while I'm reminded and humbled at the unimaginable genius that also resides within this complicated and sophisticated being as is evidenced by literally everything that is taking place in this vid. From the carving of the road itself, to the harvesting of the trees, the crafting of that fire breathing beast that's doing the work of 100 men, to the miracle of the capturing of the video and audio itself and the device I'm watching it on. Just,....WOW!
That constant sounding RPM and varying speed had me thinking "Torque converter!".... Turns out I was right, Allison 6061 automatic transmission. I'm not sure if the varying torque converter ratios are selectable or just build dependent though, that seems interesting.
looking in the Allison manual it looks like the 6061 only has one ratio to pick from, the 5960 which may have been used in these trucks as well has at least 4 different ratios.
Allison really builds a great transmission
I have a picture of my uncle Bud driving the old Hayes off-highway logging truck back the day.
A beautiful piece of engineering.
That’s some good pulling strength going up a hill like this.
I can just imagine Jeremy clarkson driving.
*COME ON MACHIIIIINE!*
Speed and power solves all things.
Double Lockers and a heavy torque Transmission + Cat 3406 Wow.
No lockers in this guy just open open.
When I see a truck like that I say "Yup!"
That turbo is siiiiiinnnngggging
That's a huge load.
That's what she said.😁
Come on now, you left that door wide open.
I love the P16 so much!
Imagine driving down the road and that passing you in the left lane
There’s usually not much passing when these guys are on the road lol. They do run on pavement in gold river and when you see them coming they get a pretty wide berth.
@@shawnperry3900 I bet gold river spends a lot of time rebuilding them roads every year or so
Off Highway only
Now that's a little bigger than LeBeau logging trucks
p16 a beast in snowrunner
The forest looks healthy around!
But yeah i love truck
1 more log and I'm not sure it would have made it. Just about to pull the steers off the ground. That's one hell of a machine!
It almost looks that way lol
How many logs can you haul?
Driver: yes
Hahahahaha ahhh make me giggle
Only a few logs over and they are just pine lol, if it where aussie hardwood there would be half as many
oh these things can haul a lot more logs than in this video, there's a photo somewhere of a p16 hauling 140 tons of cedar
@@maxl3189It is not pine. There is no pine in the rainforest of the west coast of Canada where this is.
This looks like a mixed load of spruce and hemlock which will have a high moisture content and be very heavy.
I spent a few yearsvin this business and area in the 1980's.
Our outfit had all Hayes iron with v12 screaming Jimmy's.
Look it up. Great trucks and totally rebuildable
@@alsteeves2044 I'll have a look at the old girls, love me trucks
Not sure what we use in Australia, there where heaps but yee we was Hauling 1 log loads hard eucalyptus
Hopefully we see a few of Edison motors trucks doing this soon
Wow sick video , what a beast ..
Incredible that pneumatic tires can handle that weight.
They’re definitely larger than your average truck tire and friggen heavy. I don’t miss changing them.
@@shawnperry3900 You changed them??? What was that like?
@@foxxrider250r a lot of friggen work lol where do I start. the good quality tires weigh a bit more than 300lbs and the rims are a multi piece like a split rim. So deflate the tire completely and push the outside of the rim done so you can remove the lock ring and o-ring then the outside rim piece then the tire. We’d check the rims very thoroughly for cracks in the o-ring and lock ring groves and clean all the seating surfaces. Then it’s time for a new tire onto the rim then outside rim piece (can’t remember the proper name) then a new o-ring nicely lubed up and then install the lock ring. Once you get a little pressure in the tire smack the lock ring a bit and make sure it’s properly seated, then finish filling the tire somewhere from 90-110 psi and preferably do it in a tire cage. These are the wheels that the old timers tell you stories about wrecking or maiming people when they blow and definitely deserve a lot of respect.
This is what a real truck looks like.
I drove that truck on Snowrunners last night.
Love that I have seen this in person
Looks so awesome man, really wanna see one irl
That's not the turbo you hear, its the fuel pump.
Thats a lot of torque
Grannies gear are gettin a good workin over right there.
Beautiful!
Anyone notice that the tires on the steer axle were only in contact with the road on the high spots. Talk about driving with a light front end. Yeah Haw!
Thats a meean pull!!
That is one beast of a truck
I tried this one in the game Snowrunner.
This is such a beautiful and powerfull truck and i never even heard about these before,people talk about Peterbilts and Kenworths a lot.😅
Sounded like a big compressed air leak. Generally when I think of "truck" and "loud" my frame of reference is a Detroit. Still impressive though.
This is me trying to pull the blanket at a hotel.
The Godfather of trucks showed up.
That's Cat power baby 😎
How heavy was that load? Impressive stuff.
ballpark 150 tons
Average weight for these trucks to haul would be around 60 metric tons
About tree fiddy
Good old Canadian ingenuity.
These are the situations auto's shine.
That was wicked and same with snowrunner
Had get up out of my sleep to check my coolant gauge after watching this one
Lol worried it was taking on some sympathy warmth?
Space for some more lumber i reckon
All day!
It’s a monster of a machine
Cmon bud you can do it!
incredible!
That is the coolest thing ever
Engine sounds like it's gonna blow...bang
Does that truck have some sort of power-shift transmission? The speed dropped right down and then picked up again without obviously changing gears. They must be great diffs too.
It's running a 6 speed Allison powershift transmission. I think it has Clark 91,000lb rear ends.
Do you know how many P16's were produced?
Google tells me they built a few more than 2300 trucks between 1963 and 1989.
That's what I call,a load of logs
Whats the miles per gallon on this thing?
Driver: Yes
Gallons per mile
Gallons per inch
Skills baby!!!
King of the bush!
Interviewer: Tell me about Pacific P16.
me: I played Snowrunner.
YOU'RE HIRED!
That's what a four stroke is all about. Add a double reduction on the gears & it'll walk up the side of the mountain.
They have planetary hubs on them so there's a pretty massive gear reduction there.
@@shawnperry3900 what do they have for motors in them? 12v71 Detroit’s or c15 cats?
this is the sexiest thing I've ever seen
Dudes will see this and just say HELL YEAH
Absolute Unit of a truck. A real mans car right there. Who much horses does it have?
I think 3406's were generally 375-450hp and 1600-1800 ft lbs of torque.
Oh so that's why they have lo-lo-lo
Funny how you can see the logs sneaking in first next to the hill
Nice truck. Would have been so much better in landscape format.
100% agree. Been digging these from years ago and kicking myself for never getting a real camera to film any of it. And then all the ones in landscape are cut way to short lol.
@@shawnperry3900 We're all too soon old, too late smart.
@@citetez lol yup
godspeed to the guys having to drive those things lol, imagine stalling that
This ones automatic. Just keep that throttle pedal buried in the floor lol.
@@shawnperry3900 wow, don't know much about trucks/cars, didn't think something like this would have an automatic transmission
@@TORTLESSS It's a big one lol.
wow pushing it to the limit
naa
That 5th wheel is just far enough forward to not allow him to slip straight ahead off the road.
no 5th wheel just a bunk but yeah lol
I wonder how this behemoth would perform in Australia. Like repurposing a P16 to make it a road train.
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I think it would pretty well as long as you weren’t concerned about top speed. They certainly don’t boogie down the highway.
They would run multiple trailers in bc when doing “rehauls” from sortyard to sortyard/log dump where the ground is mostly flat and everything is off highway so they don’t need to conform to weight restrictions.
wow a P16 w/ a 3406, amazing....what does he have on? 200 ton?
Probably not quite that much but getting close I imagine.
150 tons is pretty routine. I spent a couple of years loading off highway trucks.
Canadian made!
Surely they could have put more on it
What time do we get to the top of the hill? Ans: Eventually!
Good footage
Thanks!
That's a good 100,000lb of tree
Why we have low range gears.
If giving a choice to drive some crazy expensive hypercard or this pacific p16...I'm choosing that tonka p16 for obvious reasons..