Thanks Joshua! I am absolutely loving this series. You are such a good speaker/teacher and rather funny too! 😁 Your video and text libraries are highly appreciated! Rock on 🤘🏻 🦄
I still haven't pulled the plug on Cinewhoop but I am definitely in the market. Honest compliment, thanks JB this review of these products is on such a different level than any other review I've seen. Thank you, this is extremely valuable when making the purchase decision
Joshua you should look at the naked gopro cinewhoop. Which is the Betafpv 85x frame and a stripped down gopro hero 6 perfect for indoor flights. I have built one and I love how it fly.
That arming thing is so personal... For me arming is pulling towards me because that is like a conscious action for me but slinging my index finger up to disarm is basically a reflex by now.^^
i just bought my first fpv drone and transmitter, the happymodel larva x and x9 lite, and im already looking forward to my next paycheck so i can get a cinewhoop :D thanks for the video!
@@jeffsmithfpv I ended up getting a mobula 6 HD when it came out and I've been so happy with the video it makes! Saving money for college and a car but I'm for sure finding cash for more fpv gear. Still using my cheap box goggles and x9 lite though haha
@@TheCaffeinator nice! I also got the mobula6 hd today. Have you tried it in a 75mm frame? It is way more efficient and has more punch (although still feel very heavy compared to mob6)
@@abrahamtan9704 I did the frame swap to 75mm.. but I mistakenly put the props on upside down and they're all stuck. It's now a pusher thanks to some config and has a lot of jello but I don't want to buy new motors yet 😬 some day I'll get it fixed
Nice Job. I know you're new to 3D printing but PLA is only used for prototypes and figurines & models; never used for anything used outdoors because it deforms in the sun. The drones parts are usually made from TPU for flexibility or PET or PETG for rigidity. Both do well at high temps & do not deform. PETG is much easier to print than TPU.
I just bought the shen drones squirt. Prebuilt BNF and I didn't realize they sent it completely set up to the controller. So I set it up like I did my Evoque and screwed up. Erased a few settings and lost acro. Stuck with angle and horizon mode. Any advice?
Hi Joshua, I have learned a lot from your videos the last couple of days. I screwed up the firmware of my IFlight Bumblebee V3. Iflight support tries hard to help me. They provide me with a CLI file but I have to be at firmware 4.2.9. When I start my betaflight configurator (10.10.0) and start the firmware update I only can opt for firmware version 4.2.11. Applying the provided firmware results in a long steady beep when I connect a battery. Any suggestions?
My Taycan 6s dont stop to beacon beeping when I plug the battery and when disarm the quad.... someone has this same issue? when the quad is flying the beacon beep stop to annoing me... WTF
Great vid. A bit off topic here, but does dji air requires dji Google's? And would they have to be a certain dji google(s) or would any dji googlea do?
Josh, I'd like to do some 'mild' freestyle in 'Horizon' mode. How do I set that up in BetaFlight? Is there a config out there you know of that might be suitable? Thanks.
Hey man, im planning on getting the taycan, but im not sure wether or not to get the 6s or 4s, i initially thought 4s would be the more suitable, controllable version, but if i get 6s, i can run the packs i use on my 5inch quad, being on a budget makes this a big plus, what would you recomend?
Your tutorials and reviews are great, although I have a cloud reptile 149 and if I have air mode permanently enabled or assigned to a switch the motors just rev up at high speed with no control over them, do you know a fix for this, if so could you do a how to 👌
We need a cinewhoop tuning video to help get it locked in for that cinewhoop feel. There are none out there other than blackbox tuning😔. I Kno I Kno. I gotta learn blackbox eventually lol.
Since cinewhoops are flown in close proximity to objects, and we don’t do flips and rolls, I prefer to have Airmode off and rely on idle up so that it doesn’t flip out the moment you touch something.
Your awesome iv been looking for help with the Taycan and hope to God this works for mine🤞🙏 bummer well nvrmnd that does nothing for me I was hoping for some tuning of the Taycan pids. Bout to just make a 3 in freestyle quad out of it lol
Hi Joshua, great video thank you. I'm just curious to know : have you found a trick to prevent the squirt from sucking itself in to walls when flying to close to them indoor (angle mode) ? It is super annoying... it used to happen to my mobula 6 as well until I followed your precious advice and instal emuflight mockingbird config > so there must be a configuration trick ;)
Hey Joshua nice video again, very informative👍. But about the price for the RR shendrones.. I think the other brands also have a (Chinese) guy (or girl) in a warehouse who hand built the cinewhoops 😉😂
Josh uses (or has prior) logical switch setups on the radio to achieve that - I personally run that on a separate channel just because I like that as a forcing function that even if I make a big mistake on channel stacking (which Josh has the best how-to guides for), because you DO want two-switch as a requirement. I do like FL1's double-arm on first arm, but ALSO want that in addition to pre-arm on both switches (because I've most often inadvertently attempted to maul myself when bending over to pick up quads, or walking back with one still plugged in)
@@tehllama42 could you drop a link or explain how to set up that double arm on first arm or something of the likes? my biggest problem with having pre arm setup is if i say clip a tree branch and disarm but if i think i can recover and re arm mid air i never manage to due to the pre arm being in the way
@@Schulz-Racing I run pre-arm on a momentary switch, which helps. With practice, it's natural enough that about 80% of the time on racetracks and flying freestyle, I can catch it after disarming while still in the air.
@@tehllama42 yeah thats exactly what a friend of mine told me to do i currently have my failsafe switch set on the momentary switch but im starting to notice more and more people dont have an actual failsafe switch just have it configed in BF and set up on the tx. i think ill just move it to an un used switch for peace of mind and try prearm on the momentary switch. thanks man :)
@@Schulz-Racing I personally rely on using the AND logic in Betaflight to force my mode switch AND buzzer switch to be required to cause BF Failsafe to kick in - a bit odd, but it also lets me overlap the RX channel settings to be sure it goes towards that behavior... this also frees up a switch spot for me (I have one quad where I'm using a switch for Arm/BB, a buzzer switch, a momentary for Prearm, a 3-Pos for Turtle/VTX Pit/Normal, another 3Pos for Air/Acro/Angle [angle enables FS], one pot that lets me set Launch control and BB log, and another pot that changes RGB LED colors... it's a mess, but it works and all fits on 4 AUX channels.
help, i've just entered pastebin.com/n7MUuc6W in CLI file, and now my FC isnt detected anymore in Betaflight ! can anyone help me correct what i did wrong ?
"Versus somebody who is just tossing Betaflight defaults at you and leaving the work to" ... Joshua. I know it was meant to be a differentiator, but anybody already here knows they'll have the most success just dropping the JB tune on it to start off with anyway.
I think the biggest takeaway is that iFlight has somebody competent actually flying their stuff, whose advice they're actually taking - and it shows. Awesome job to IFlight - I'm really happy with the five quads worth of stuff I run from the Succex/XING line, because it's been awesome stuff... sounds like it's going to keep getting better.
RE: Do you have a link for the right angle usb connector adapter to get at FC usb when ducts are on? I sure as heck can't find it. I've been through the links from both videos twice, this is all I could find link-wise to usb: The magnetic USB cable I suggest for use with these quads is: amzn.to/36zJwoL I'm looking for a right angle usb connector adapter, not the magnetic solution you refereed to in your first video but the the adapter that came with the iFlight BumbleBee, you indicated in your video that everybody had one but dang if I can find it anywhere unless I buy the Cinewhoop.
This is the configuration that it is shipping with and I am testing these all as shipped. Trust me when I say that lots of people who buy a bind-n-fly or ready-to-fly do not upgrade it they just fly it as delivered. You can upgrade it and tune it and tweak it and I make those videos too but when I do a roundup like this, the question is, which product is best out of the box.
The minute you upgrade to the latest version a whole bunch of things change and the drone may not fly as the manufacturer intended. At that point, if I criticize the drone, people may say, that's your fault for upgrading. It worked fine as delivered.
With a great respect to you as well known drone blogger I have to say that it's absolutely useless video. Here is the reason: fpv quadcopter industry nowadays is such a DIY open source geek thing, what means that it have to be undone. It's just like a raspberry pi or Arduino theme. So the problem is not in companies who offer components or "drones"("" because it's not a final working product like dji drones) not setted up, but in betaflight ecosystem, who must to make such an algorithm which could set up all parameters like pids and filters automatically after for example a couple test flights with a list of few rolls and yaws with reading blackbox information. For me it's absolutely strange that it haven't been done yet. There's well known algorithm of automatic pid calibration which is already works for years in temperature programmable regulators. But for some reason you have to make a few flights changing each parameter of p I d and put it into simply python script from GitHub to see graph on each parameter and choose the right one. What about filters... I absolutely don't understand why it couldn't be automatically done in real-time by fc. Filters just cut of the high frequency peaks
No offense but this is your perspective because you haven't followed the development of FPV firmware for the last five years. Auto PID tuning has been tried. It doesn't work well. In a hugely noisy and dynamic environment like a flying quadcopter. Filtering is the single biggest improvement in flight performance we have seen. Saying "it just cuts off the peaks" is a huge oversimplification. The bottom line is, this is all open source code. If you can do it better, go for it.
@@JoshuaBardwell your conclusion at the end is the thing I'm worried about for the last 4 years. I'm an engineer and I often need some sort of automatisation for my equipment. I have no programmer knowledge and I have to use open source platforms like rpi or Arduino. Of course use libraries from GitHub, but they are all work in some awful way. There's no solution in open source programming for any propose that works right, and also there is a syntax and some commands that are not clear to understand by its names
Задавать вопросы бессмысленно!! Автор так УПОЕН своим повествованием, что некогда отвечать на вопросы!!(( Asking questions is pointless !! The author is so UPONED with his narration that there is no time to answer questions !! ((
Thanks Joshua! I am absolutely loving this series. You are such a good speaker/teacher and rather funny too! 😁 Your video and text libraries are highly appreciated! Rock on 🤘🏻 🦄
I still haven't pulled the plug on Cinewhoop but I am definitely in the market. Honest compliment, thanks JB this review of these products is on such a different level than any other review I've seen. Thank you, this is extremely valuable when making the purchase decision
Jack's 3D Printing on facebook. His 'Splash' Cinewhoop is top notch
Travis Ballard thanks for the tip I will give it a look!
Joshua you should look at the naked gopro cinewhoop. Which is the Betafpv 85x frame and a stripped down gopro hero 6 perfect for indoor flights. I have built one and I love how it fly.
Again, fantastic content and highly actionable. You should have way more views. This got me cinewhoops, cheers!
awesome demo there! can you share the config file for the diatone taycan. The pastebin link isn't working.
Asking about Diatone Taycan, you say: “could be doing bidirectional dshot but it is not set” I knew this function just works with blheli 32 esc
That arming thing is so personal... For me arming is pulling towards me because that is like a conscious action for me but slinging my index finger up to disarm is basically a reflex by now.^^
i just bought my first fpv drone and transmitter, the happymodel larva x and x9 lite, and im already looking forward to my next paycheck so i can get a cinewhoop :D thanks for the video!
I think you're the exact target audience for this - good stuff.
How’s it been going?
@@jeffsmithfpv I ended up getting a mobula 6 HD when it came out and I've been so happy with the video it makes! Saving money for college and a car but I'm for sure finding cash for more fpv gear. Still using my cheap box goggles and x9 lite though haha
@@TheCaffeinator nice! I also got the mobula6 hd today. Have you tried it in a 75mm frame? It is way more efficient and has more punch (although still feel very heavy compared to mob6)
@@abrahamtan9704 I did the frame swap to 75mm.. but I mistakenly put the props on upside down and they're all stuck. It's now a pusher thanks to some config and has a lot of jello but I don't want to buy new motors yet 😬 some day I'll get it fixed
Nice Job. I know you're new to 3D printing but PLA is only used for prototypes and figurines & models; never used for anything used outdoors because it deforms in the sun. The drones parts are usually made from TPU for flexibility or PET or PETG for rigidity. Both do well at high temps & do not deform. PETG is much easier to print than TPU.
I just bought the shen drones squirt. Prebuilt BNF and I didn't realize they sent it completely set up to the controller. So I set it up like I did my Evoque and screwed up. Erased a few settings and lost acro. Stuck with angle and horizon mode. Any advice?
Could you share the default pids and filter settings of bumblebee？thanks！
Hey Josh,
In your opinion do you think someone getting into the hobby would benefit from starting on a cinewhoop ?
Hi Joshua, I have learned a lot from your videos the last couple of days. I screwed up the firmware of my IFlight Bumblebee V3. Iflight support tries hard to help me. They provide me with a CLI file but I have to be at firmware 4.2.9. When I start my betaflight configurator (10.10.0) and start the firmware update I only can opt for firmware version 4.2.11. Applying the provided firmware results in a long steady beep when I connect a battery. Any suggestions?
LOL.. So I jumped to the summary at the end.. And you called me on it!!!! F'ing hilarious!
My Taycan 6s dont stop to beacon beeping when I plug the battery and when disarm the quad.... someone has this same issue? when the quad is flying the beacon beep stop to annoing me... WTF
Awesome, Joshua! Thanks for all the tips! 😃
And yeah, iFlight has been killing it! 😃
Great vid.
A bit off topic here, but does dji air requires dji Google's? And would they have to be a certain dji google(s) or would any dji googlea do?
DJI air unit requires DJI goggles. The FPV system works with the goggles 2 and the v2 goggles.
Outside of the goggles, how much more expensive is a digital vs analog? Like $100?
I figured you needed 100 comments on this video 👍. Thx 4 all your info
On your PastBin conf there are not changes on PIDs right? I guess stock should be fine on a F4?
Can I use these same settings in Betaflight when using my Taranis X9D or Jumper T18 radio?....Thank you!
Josh, I'd like to do some 'mild' freestyle in 'Horizon' mode. How do I set that up in BetaFlight? Is there a config out there you know of that might be suitable? Thanks.
When you Fly them can you go over which battery you would use with each whoop please as I am buying a new setup and do not have anything yet
Recommended battery is between 850 mAh and 1500 mAh 4S, or equivalent Wh in 6S.
Подскажите, помогите. КУпил такой дрон bumblebee v3. При настройке случайно включил MSP на UART1. Дрон окирпичился. Как перепрошить/исправть?
Hold down the bootloader button on the FC. Plug in USB while holding down the button. This puts the FC into DFU mode and you can re-flash it.
Do you have a link for the right angle usb connector adapter to get at FC usb when ducts are on? I sure as heck can't find it. Thanks
It's linked in the Product Links section in the video description.
Beautiful shirt
Hey man, im planning on getting the taycan, but im not sure wether or not to get the 6s or 4s, i initially thought 4s would be the more suitable, controllable version, but if i get 6s, i can run the packs i use on my 5inch quad, being on a budget makes this a big plus, what would you recomend?
Your tutorials and reviews are great, although I have a cloud reptile 149 and if I have air mode permanently enabled or assigned to a switch the motors just rev up at high speed with no control over them, do you know a fix for this, if so could you do a how to 👌
I like Taycan with the interiors of Bumblbebee or i like Bumblbebee with the frame of Taycan. Damn. I bet Bumblebee will win the contest!
We need a cinewhoop tuning video to help get it locked in for that cinewhoop feel. There are none out there other than blackbox tuning😔. I Kno I Kno. I gotta learn blackbox eventually lol.
What DSHOT should I set ? I have the "MAMBA F405 Mini MK2 Betaflight Flight Controller & F25". Is it f4 or f7 ?
F405 = F4.
Hey JB. have you ever seen stan fpv's bolt on ducts?
Since cinewhoops are flown in close proximity to objects, and we don’t do flips and rolls, I prefer to have Airmode off and rely on idle up so that it doesn’t flip out the moment you touch something.
I'm going to build my own use the
Parts I want. This we be a bad ass build!!!
Your awesome iv been looking for help with the Taycan and hope to God this works for mine🤞🙏 bummer well nvrmnd that does nothing for me I was hoping for some tuning of the Taycan pids. Bout to just make a 3 in freestyle quad out of it lol
i luv the botgrider logo
Hi Joshua, great video thank you. I'm just curious to know : have you found a trick to prevent the squirt from sucking itself in to walls when flying to close to them indoor (angle mode) ? It is super annoying... it used to happen to my mobula 6 as well until I followed your precious advice and instal emuflight mockingbird config > so there must be a configuration trick ;)
2 years ago.... did J.B. ever respond
@@fpvwithme well may be he doesn't know the answer ;)
have you tried turning airmode off? i have airmode set to a toggle and i just shut it off when flying indoors
@@dominicpsn that was the problem. Not a fan of air mode on my squirt.
@@dominicpsn well yes I did, and that was an advice given by Albert Kim (if you don't know him you might want to check his channel too)
Rockin the @botgrinder shirt 👍👍
Great video thank you 👍🏋️🙌
Hey Joshua nice video again, very informative👍. But about the price for the RR shendrones.. I think the other brands also have a (Chinese) guy (or girl) in a warehouse who hand built the cinewhoops 😉😂
Actually RR drones are made in Orlando Florida
Can you review the new betaFPV Dji caddx whoops!
Do you use pre arm on your quads? if so why or why not?
Josh uses (or has prior) logical switch setups on the radio to achieve that - I personally run that on a separate channel just because I like that as a forcing function that even if I make a big mistake on channel stacking (which Josh has the best how-to guides for), because you DO want two-switch as a requirement. I do like FL1's double-arm on first arm, but ALSO want that in addition to pre-arm on both switches (because I've most often inadvertently attempted to maul myself when bending over to pick up quads, or walking back with one still plugged in)
@@tehllama42 could you drop a link or explain how to set up that double arm on first arm or something of the likes? my biggest problem with having pre arm setup is if i say clip a tree branch and disarm but if i think i can recover and re arm mid air i never manage to due to the pre arm being in the way
@@Schulz-Racing I run pre-arm on a momentary switch, which helps. With practice, it's natural enough that about 80% of the time on racetracks and flying freestyle, I can catch it after disarming while still in the air.
@@tehllama42 yeah thats exactly what a friend of mine told me to do i currently have my failsafe switch set on the momentary switch but im starting to notice more and more people dont have an actual failsafe switch just have it configed in BF and set up on the tx. i think ill just move it to an un used switch for peace of mind and try prearm on the momentary switch. thanks man :)
@@Schulz-Racing I personally rely on using the AND logic in Betaflight to force my mode switch AND buzzer switch to be required to cause BF Failsafe to kick in - a bit odd, but it also lets me overlap the RX channel settings to be sure it goes towards that behavior... this also frees up a switch spot for me (I have one quad where I'm using a switch for Arm/BB, a buzzer switch, a momentary for Prearm, a 3-Pos for Turtle/VTX Pit/Normal, another 3Pos for Air/Acro/Angle [angle enables FS], one pot that lets me set Launch control and BB log, and another pot that changes RGB LED colors... it's a mess, but it works and all fits on 4 AUX channels.
help, i've just entered pastebin.com/n7MUuc6W in CLI file, and now my FC isnt detected anymore in Betaflight !
can anyone help me correct what i did wrong ?
Joshua, I found the “Table of Contents” really useful. Extra work I know but i would certainly welcome it on all/most of your videos. 👏
"Versus somebody who is just tossing Betaflight defaults at you and leaving the work to" ... Joshua. I know it was meant to be a differentiator, but anybody already here knows they'll have the most success just dropping the JB tune on it to start off with anyway.
I think the biggest takeaway is that iFlight has somebody competent actually flying their stuff, whose advice they're actually taking - and it shows. Awesome job to IFlight - I'm really happy with the five quads worth of stuff I run from the Succex/XING line, because it's been awesome stuff... sounds like it's going to keep getting better.
Josh: 'Like, really cinematic rates'.
Me: 'Those are kinda like my racing rates. Awwwww
Love the shirt!!!!
Not available anymore - coronavirus?
Enter in cli “bind_rx” puts it into bind mode... best hack ever
Too many cinewhoops for only one man...I smell a giveaway or 3
I smell a patreon plug.
Maybe 4
why not 4k/4k+Dshot600 on F4 fc
If using bidirectional dshot that will push utilization too high. If not using bidirectional dshot, it's okay.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for answering!
Part 2 🔥🕺🏾🔥🕺🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Cool video!
You should watch the whole thing before you comment 2 minutes after its uploaded.
@@graydi66y lol maybe he thinks the premise is cool and he's too good to say 'first!'
You can always predict. When the last time wasn't cool? It is always cool :)
@@graydi66y I mean, more comments = better engagement figures, thus better algorithm placement.
RE: Do you have a link for the right angle usb connector adapter to get at FC usb when ducts are on? I sure as heck can't find it.
I've been through the links from both videos twice, this is all I could find link-wise to usb:
The magnetic USB cable I suggest for use with these quads is:
amzn.to/36zJwoL
I'm looking for a right angle usb connector adapter, not the magnetic solution you refereed to in your first video but the the adapter that came with the iFlight BumbleBee, you indicated in your video that everybody had one but dang if I can find it anywhere unless I buy the Cinewhoop.
I always rely on you! lol 🤩
Where's the UMMAGAWD CINEBRAT????
This is for ready to fly kits not DIY
why betaflight 4.0?
That's how it shipped.
@@JoshuaBardwell First thing to do is to update to the latest version. It is a waste to show a configuration in a version that is no longer used :)
This is the configuration that it is shipping with and I am testing these all as shipped. Trust me when I say that lots of people who buy a bind-n-fly or ready-to-fly do not upgrade it they just fly it as delivered. You can upgrade it and tune it and tweak it and I make those videos too but when I do a roundup like this, the question is, which product is best out of the box.
The minute you upgrade to the latest version a whole bunch of things change and the drone may not fly as the manufacturer intended. At that point, if I criticize the drone, people may say, that's your fault for upgrading. It worked fine as delivered.
Joshua Bardwell yeah i got what ur saying.
gist.github > pastebin
thats exactly why I am flying KISS xD fucking hell betaflight hahaha ^^
With a great respect to you as well known drone blogger I have to say that it's absolutely useless video. Here is the reason: fpv quadcopter industry nowadays is such a DIY open source geek thing, what means that it have to be undone. It's just like a raspberry pi or Arduino theme. So the problem is not in companies who offer components or "drones"("" because it's not a final working product like dji drones) not setted up, but in betaflight ecosystem, who must to make such an algorithm which could set up all parameters like pids and filters automatically after for example a couple test flights with a list of few rolls and yaws with reading blackbox information. For me it's absolutely strange that it haven't been done yet. There's well known algorithm of automatic pid calibration which is already works for years in temperature programmable regulators. But for some reason you have to make a few flights changing each parameter of p I d and put it into simply python script from GitHub to see graph on each parameter and choose the right one. What about filters... I absolutely don't understand why it couldn't be automatically done in real-time by fc. Filters just cut of the high frequency peaks
No offense but this is your perspective because you haven't followed the development of FPV firmware for the last five years.
Auto PID tuning has been tried. It doesn't work well. In a hugely noisy and dynamic environment like a flying quadcopter.
Filtering is the single biggest improvement in flight performance we have seen. Saying "it just cuts off the peaks" is a huge oversimplification.
The bottom line is, this is all open source code. If you can do it better, go for it.
@@JoshuaBardwell your conclusion at the end is the thing I'm worried about for the last 4 years. I'm an engineer and I often need some sort of automatisation for my equipment. I have no programmer knowledge and I have to use open source platforms like rpi or Arduino. Of course use libraries from GitHub, but they are all work in some awful way. There's no solution in open source programming for any propose that works right, and also there is a syntax and some commands that are not clear to understand by its names
Задавать вопросы бессмысленно!! Автор так УПОЕН своим повествованием, что некогда отвечать на вопросы!!(( Asking questions is pointless !! The author is so UPONED with his narration that there is no time to answer questions !! ((
What are you talking about it's a recorded video how are you supposed to ask questions.