Hello everyone! I honestly didn't expect to get so many views on this video. It's taken me by surprise a little bit, so thank you all for watching! I post a little schizophrenically on topics that interest me, so I hope you consider sticking around for other videos I have cooking. If not, thanks for stopping by anyway!
Welcome in the realm of UA-cam drama. You just ride on the wave of many videos directed at idubbbs. I watched many of those videos, but yours brought a new point to the table. That makes it one of the best! Oh and, what was that literal shitty DnB tune you played at the end ? I need it.
This is only your 4th upload since starting 8 months ago; with commentary and editing as good as shown-if you started releasing content at least once every month from now, I bet you could maintain a healthy and consistent rate of growth for your channel. I encourage you to keep up the good work!
I couldn't believe that you only had 4 videos up on your channel & only 1k subs after watching this. It is refreshing to see someone with this kind of talent in video creation, and someone who wishes to be Christ-like at that! Out of curiosity, what kind of camera & mic do you use to record yourself? The quality is phenomenal!
I went back to watch content cop. He wasn't even that edgy. Joji on the other hand put a shotgun in his mouth (I presume it was fake or unloaded, but still).
Agreed, pewdiepie always evolved his content, changed depending on what he felt like doing at the time and got his audience to embrace the change, he’s had a hit in every era from playing scary games, to dancing on top of his car during his edgelord phase, to reviving Minecraft and battling big channels for number 1. He’s the model to be followed, there’s a reason he’s stayed king all these years and it’s well deserved. I remember being in elementary school when I first heard of him and over the years, now being 20, I’ve always been able to come back to his content, and happily watch what he was currently making. And I think that applies to teens and adults, I’m glad to see he’s moved to a place he feels at peace and he bouta be a father. He’s uploads vlogs now cuz he wants to, and his fans r happy. He stopped involving himself in the mainstream UA-cam-twitch bullshit n the man seems to be doing great. He’s not here, today, apologizing over the bridge situation or the fiverr situation, because every gets it, it’s over, let it be done.
@@HunterBidensHandgun Agreed. Stagnation would mean that he'd still be creating the same "edgy content" which would be preferable to the wet sock he is now. I have no question that Idubbz's changes are due to his "wife", she has humiliated him publicly during interviews and made fun of him, expressed 0 interest or "love" towards him (We have an interview of her looking disgusted while saying that Idubbz looks like "white trash"), and all I see is her making use of his corpse to become famous. Idubbz has said that "everything is his fault and his wife is a saint who has been for him all the time" while in the past they confirmed that "it was Anisa's idea to go to the girl to say the n-word" - there's hypocrisy and I have no question that Anisa has brainwashed Idub so that "all the issues in the relationship are with him and that she's the victim of everything" (which is the standard way that ppl like to brainwash the real victims - for example airsoftfatty was also brainwashed/gaslit a similar way).
@@vapinggranny2474 All it is is that Pewdiepie still feels like the same person, just in a different stage of life and environment. Anyone who makes drastic changes to personality as well as lifestyle is faking
Yes, he did disavow ''All of its ok, or none of its ok'', from the same Content Cop where he said '..I'm going to continue to treat black people like they're people'. Ian's message was way more mature back then. Healthy and sincere. His current mindset is just way more fashionable. What a shame.
@Hel1 Yeah well I never watched Ian religiously, but if I'm not mistaken I think he only said it ironically to that blonde chick(whose name I can't remember) because she would often say n**ger and then accused other people of being racist, and only to prove her hypocrisy. Not sure if he ever said it outside of that unironically, but I could be wrong, as I only casually watched Ian back in the day.
@@hel1yeah254I didn’t know it meant that, I gather most people don’t know it meant that. I always assumed it’s a derivative of negro, the Spanish word for black. Makes more sense, doesn’t it? Lmao the things people say.. I want you to tell me, who most commonly uses that word? And how is it used? Do you listen to rap music? If people really want the word to die, it’s pretty obvious who needs to stop using it. And it’s not the whites.
That point "adopting new political beliefs isn't maturing" is so lost on many people today, particularly Americans, for this reason I really don't like the terms "woke" or "redpill" cause the implication is that someone has an enhanced state of consciousness just cause they adopted a bunch of lame surface level political beliefs
Its the other way around tho, you dont change your political belieaves and mature because of that, you mature and change your political belieaves because of that. Its easy to get really. And if youre capable of advanced thought on that, you realise its not even a binary as that point makes it out to be.
@@vosoryan then read it again and actually think about it rather then applying whatever you want to read there. It makes sense. Partly BECAUSE i didnt disprove anything. 1. You dont mature because you changed your opinion. 2. You Mature first AND THEN change your opinion. You might have heard "correlation not causation" somwhere. Really important here in my opnion.
This video is great. I have been thinking this for sooo long. I always hated hearing people use "growing up" or "maturing" to describe conforming to the easiest opinion to hold. Especially when people (such as the sidemen) immediately apologise for something so obviously done without destructive intent. HAVE A BACKBONE! Growth isn't about trying to please everyone, but about being secure in your own beliefs DISPITE how anyone else feels. Old Idubbz was this, that is why we loved him.
You know that his current stance doesn't put him in an easiest position as it basically throws him into a multitude of hateful comments from people who are sour about him not being edgy anymore, right? You do realize that it does take BACKBONE and guts to present this stance publicly when a huge chunk of your audience is edgelords? You do realize that iDubbz is not trying to please everyone and does show security in his own beliefs by risking the growth of his channel by presenting his views? The amount of irony in your comment is amazing, honestly.
@@cyferki123 You have a point, he hasn't made his life "easy" but, the takes he holds today are easier to hold than the ones he used to hold (such as about slurs). Especially in the context of the social circles he involves himself in, the current climate of the internet, and all the pressures on being a public figure. "HAVE A BACKBONE" was in reference to the Sidemen who: held a day long shoot (didn't see any issues), had creative input in the editing process (didn't see any issues), all reviewed the final cut (didn't see any issues), then pressed upload (not seeing any issues). Only for the video to be met with outrage from some people on twitter offended by the use of a slur. The Sidemen immediately took the video down and issued an apology about how their actions were unacceptable and they were all so ashamed. If you can't tell they obviously don't believe this, they knew their intentions and thought the video was funny. I wish they just honest and didn't "break their backs" as soon as they were canceled, realizing anyone trying to cancel them isn't worth thinking about. I never said Idubbz was trying to please everyone. It was an overarching view on maturity, as was the entire comment.
The comparison with pewdiepie is on point. We can see what reaching real maturity is, just by looking at him, we see that he's in a good place, he made all the right choices where it mattered. And then we have Ian and his Yoko Ono.
I really don’t think Anisa is that bad, I mean she’s done some psycho shit on twitter from what I remember but I swear she was with idubz when he was making those content cops and she helped make them
@@theowainwright7406 i've seen clips of her taking credit for alot of stuff. I wonder how much of it was her idea, because there are alot of hard truths idubbz used to say about pornstars, people that sell out, etc... the so called "sex workers" that is basically common sense, and now all of it is bitting them in their ass. And his only defense is "now i'm mature, i grew up" as if he said something really offensive. Alot of people have a problem with this particular attitude, the act of dismissing his old content as the "bad" content.
its funny, cause people still dispise felix for his past till this day, even if he matured and its been years at this point, but idubbz with his "horrible content" gets a pass from everyone, just like that.
@Anthony V its all the proof you need that they dont care about actual maturity, you just need to posture as someone who has without doing the legwork to change
@@joshfromsmosh3352d its because Pewds started a war with mainstream media they didn't like him during his edgy phase and Pewds constantly crapped on them for awful reporting
Excellent points made in the video. I haven't seen anyone address the situation in this way and its reliving to see. Its sad to see that maturity is tied to ones ability to conform to the cultural narrative instead of their personal growth and insight. looking forward to more videos keep up the good work!
Oh, what a shitty, conformist thing it is to have empathy and not want to be a jerk to other people! Oh, the disgusting cultural narrative of being kinder to others!
I completely agree, I've been wanting to see someone actually bring up the "maturing" points because Twitter leftist defending him are doing it without knowing about those videos so they say he grew up out of that "edgy" attitude but the message in Tana's content cop was pretty mature to me. And hel people still need to learn from it since they still do it nowadays, not only with race but with women too, you can't criticize a woman without being branded as a misogynist even if you have good points to do so, it's kind of ironic, them treating women like babies that handle anything negative seems more sexist to me lol
It saddens me videos like these and Glitch Poachers that cover the subject don't get much traction, but even if they did, most of those terminally online twitter leftists would either A. Watch less than half of it and counter a bunch of made-up arguments that weren't even made in the video B. Skim through it, then do the above, on top of blatantly misconstrue the actual arguments made C. Watch it fully and still misconstrue the actual arguments made
@@standoidontwantalastname6500 I completely agree, I found Glitch poachers thru that video of his, and it was so good I ended binging his entire channel at work a few days ago. As for example of crazy leftists comments, I got recommended a video last night for some stupid reason by a youtuber called "Peethan" he covered Idubbz's apology and I went straight to the comments because the thumbnail and title gave me breadtube vibes and after reading some of them I wanted to blow my brains out ngl.
U just said saying the n word to someone to prove the point that she’s a hypocrite is “pretty mature”. Y’all have never thought about any of your opinions in ur life, also what world r u living in where you can’t criticize women without being called a misogynist? Cus it’s not the real world.
Same, never liked him or his content but he isn't a bad person, just a guy enjoying life and how can you be mad at that? Gotta be a miserable person to hate on him
Well said. I also think he’s translating his own self doubt and self loathing into a disgust instinct of both his old content and by reflection his fans. Most of his fans are like you and me who enjoyed the message behind the critiques and bombastic comedy. We weren’t alt-right racist bigots hiding in the basement and neither was he. But he’s convinced that’s what he was, convinced he’s responsible for his fans, convinced his fans must have been terrible because he viewed himself as terrible. No one would have a problem with him moving past his old content (like Joji, like pewds, like max) if he just went and did it. The problem is that he’s morally grandstanding (ironically something he said he shouldn’t have done in reference to his old content). At some points he straight up said his fans are incel bigots that need to learn empathy and grow up. Making claims about the morality of his old base and saying that anyone who disagrees with his newfound sensibilities are hold “tired old views”. That’s the problem, because we aren’t what he characterizes us as and we are the reason he’s so successful. It’s insulting and frankly sad because the insult comes from a place of terrible self loathing that he reflects onto everyone else. He refuses to be charitable to his old self and by reflection is fans.
Great video. It really bothered me that the term 'maturity' kept coming up in that video, as well as in responses. He hasn't matured but merely switched sides and changed his tone, all because he's ruled by his concubine. Hopefully he sees the light some day
It's really annoying me how people keep saying "omg ur so misogyny for saying it's all Anisa's fault!1!!! Like everyone is being so mean so her 😭" WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING INTO HER. like bruh you don't even know shit
@Sam Athum that they would bully or harass other based on skin color and incorporate the Nword into the abuse . Also that they got the idea from idubb's videos . Now, a lot of these people are going by their definition of racism which is probably broader than our definition of racism . Some did state that they would say the Nword in front of or directly at black people while in school .
@@samathum4711 also a lot state they were sent into an alt right pipeline or became fascist which is just hilarious idea for a whole host of different reasons .
Never forget that the people who are mad about how they made "hateful" content in the past still make the same inflammatory content but have only changed who they target with it.
I've been saying it for years, Felix earned everything he has, I wouldn't want anyone else at the head of UA-cam, dude is truly a stand up genuine person. Amazing video man, you were succinct and eloquent!
This is put tremondously, you've done a great job respectfully dealing with the topic. Everything is said in a way that even the people it's directed against could watch and understand, which imo is the best thing this type of video can accomplish.
For real, I watched the first Epic Meal Time, and to see him beefing with a bunch of strangers who don't give a fuck about his opinions on Twitter to the point where he's posting literal hundreds of responses... Iunno man, not the Harley I remember saying "gay bacon strips".
These were my exact feelings on the whole matter. Ian just became politically trendy in line with a bunch of other performative douchbags online and a chorus of people called that growing up. This video is a fantastic summary.
Or maybe you're just dumb and have a hard time realizing the apology was bc of his experience with his fans and the impact it had on people watching. His content was full of bigotry that lead to black, brown, lgbtq and certain youtubers harassment and bullying
Being left leaning isn't politically trendy. Being an edge lord a few years back was trendy. These days the right wing media gets 10x more views than any leftist show. If you think changing into a lefty is more profitable than the other way around, then you just don't know what's happening in the western world politically.
I think perhaps the biggest indicator that this is change and not growth, is that Idubbbz only disavowed all his old content when he got called out for saying a lot of the same sorta shit Sam Hyde says now, and that banning FroggyFresh from creator clash for his association with Sam was completely hypocritical and clearly because of his girlfriend. Idubbbz went full Will Smith basically.
I really like your take on ethan klein, not sure I share your beliefs about saying racial slurs but that’s neither here nor there. One of idubbbz other issues is that he’s actually not that funny anymore, he could have pivoted away from his edgy content without completely flipping into making safe bullshit but he hasn’t and now is just another vanilla youtuber.
Ohhhhh, i get it now, treating people with respect and not making content full of bigotry that makes it seem ok to be racist and homophobic is being a childdddd
@@hel1yeah254 By the way you write, I'm not surprised you got those impressions from Content Cop videos. Learn to write, critical thinking, and then you might have and be able to articulate decent arguments.
@@hel1yeah254 someone who has his shit together and knows more about communication than you do. You should be grateful that I'm actually answering your gibberish.
Also, people also forgot that Idubz was saying n word to show hypocy of Tana that she was using one slure , but was criticizing for usage of other. Do I remember it correctly. (Also he was pronouncing n word as comedy gag, which can be disrespectful and insensitive, which are not nice, but not crime, while never being racist aka hating particular group of people based on their race and having strong prejudice against them).
The problem with idubbbz isn't that he stopped saying slurs or bullying people.The problem is his content just isn't entertaining. He went from making genuinely interesting and entertaining content to just making more generic complaining or just uninteresting fidget toy stuff. The squirrel series is the last good content Idubbbz has made in quite some time.
What I learned is idubbz is a goddamn grifter, riding in whatever internet trend of the decade and switch if it's not profitable anymore. Could have done a "Joji" where he leaves his idubbz persona gracefully and adapt a new persona to his liking. This is not the way to do it. I can pin point who poisoned the well, but that's for another story. He did this to himself, became spineless hence cant even give a direct confrontation and, recently, horrendous at the logistics of hosting an event made for charity but not one pence where donated to one
Totally agree. Idubbz is your typical trend hopper. He went from being edgy to an almost annoying degree and then did a 180 and became your virtue signaling SJW.
Pewdiepie is the perfect example of true growth on yt. Dude is often mentioned as a “cause of the adpocalypse” but he seems to have managed to stand in people’s good graces due to his growth.
Pewdiepie is the ultimate example of a redemption arc. I'm so excited for him and Marzia as they start their new family. It's just sad because Ian could have had that had he not allowed California to poison his mind.
Subbed. I am 1/200th black and was made in Detroit. I can also say what I want. Props for using the uneditted version of idupppz even if you lost monetization
Word brother. Idubbbz has taught (hopefully) a lot of people that equality is the most important thing. Just sad that most people only remember the bullying.
His own girlfriend said she likes controlling people, idk why you're defending them when there is proof that his girlfriend has been manipulating things this whole time...
I've always seen h3 and idubz "maturity" as a spontaneous reaction to the shift in social climate, especially in regards to the internet. It just simply doesn't come off as genuine. The way i see it, they both just went from one extreme to the another.
twitter folk defending a content creator who's pivoting towards their camp by using the terms "sex worker" and "woman" interchangeably in an argument is for sure the best metric to gauge their moral compass with
@@amiralimirhashemian6067 Of course they did. Literally everyone at that time made him what the f are you yapping on about. Those 50 milion views on the (jake paul) rice gum content cop totally didnt "make him" apparently.
I agree with your takes on his old videos, it's also sad to me hearing him say that he's afraid that he can't be funny or hear him act as if all the humor was in the shocking remarks. He had this goofy charisma that was really charming in his old videos and you could even still see some of that in his squirrel video he uploaded on his second channel.
If IDubbz grew he would be able to give credit to the genuine position of his old fans; we miss the attitude and the willingness to take someone to task in spite of their audience size, not the edginess.
Why does everyone say that If you watched those kind of UA-camrs that you were anti-SJW in 2016? It sounds like they're just trying to say that you were on the right and not with them.
What bothered me the most was when he retracted the "either all of it or none of it" argument. He called the argument stupid and wrong. But then he didnt even explain why it was wrong. He just couldnt be bothered having such an opinion
I was in high school when I watched the Tana Content cop. I don't get what the fuck the problem is, he acts like the only reason he did and said anything was solely to be racist. Even back then I didn't get the issue with words under the proper context. Ethan is a huge disappointment, I hope he gets something thrown his way that actually gets him to realize why so many people don't like him. Nothing malicious, but something that gets him to at least make sense of it
ethan klien be like: working out for an hour: "cringe, we only have so much time on this world, why would I do that?" beating off for an hour: "that's just America baby"
I think the root of your critique makes sense. Being edgy can be used in a positive way to challenge social norms and what society values. What's important however is how you direct your edginess. Andrew Tate talking about abusing women is edgy because it challenges the societal norm that women are human beings that deserve respect. Hasan Piker saying America deserved 9/11 is also edgy because it challenges the normalized idea of American Exceptionalism. The difference lies in the underlying critique. Andrew Tate wants to push back against women's rights and does not view women as equals. Hasan wants to push against American imperialism and the destruction of other sovereign nations due to American intervention. A white guy saying the n-word is edgy because the n-word was used to dehumanize black people and therefore using it is an inherit endorsement of that idea, so the position of all of 'it' is ok or none of 'it' is ok lacks the nuance of what 'it' is. Your ideas about equality are also slightly skewed. Ideally in a post racist society where nothing in the past affects the future the thought that everyone is treated equally is good, but that's not the society we live in. It's a given that your spawn point in life gives you advantages. If you come from massive wealth then your opportunities in life are far greater than some one who grew up below the poverty line. Add in the fact that historically the systems were set up to favor a certain gender and race, then it becomes easier to understand why certain groups become marginalized. That's why idubbbz and H3H3 have grown. They've come to realize that they should focus their edginess towards groups who have historically had power i.e. punching up rather than punching down. When Ethan says "Bomb the NRA" everyone loses their mind, but America bombs Afghanistan and Iraq regularly and that's been normalized. Why is that? I'd argue that the NRA has been a more deadly force in the United States than any middle eastern terror cell by making sure every depressed white teen has access to a weapon designed to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time. Ethan is kind of a dumb guy he'd tell you that himself. He likes stupid humor and making dumb jokes. He doesn't argue with Crowder in good faith because he knows he isn't good at refuting points. He is also aware of this. He used the Crowder interview to expose how Crowder doesn't enter debates in good faith either. Crowder just looks for easy people to dunk on and will duck people who can actually refute his talking points. (Also "life's to short to exercise" is clearly said in jest). Also You missed the point in the Froggy Fresh video, by a lot actually. He's not smearing froggy fresh because froggy fresh doesn't like sex work. He's explaining why he removed Froggy Fresh from the card. He very clearly in that video said it wasn't about Anisa it was about Froggy's involvement with Sam Hyde, which is pretty reasonable considering all the shit Sam Hyde has said about Idubbbz, Anisa, and Sam's ties to the alt-right. TL;DR: the growth idubbbz and Ethan experienced was not about how childish they were but about how there worldview has shifted to include nuanced perspectives about how their words affect people. Overall good video you articulated your points well, but your conclusions leave a little to be desired.
What's most insane is that people think others hating on Ian has anything to do with the n-word... That's not AT ALL why people are upset. People are upset because he's a crybaby who let Hyde get underneath his skin, took his WIFE'S last name, and let himself get Yoko'd. People are upset that he doesn't have a spine anymore... not that he's not screaming the n-word.
They are too fixated on that strawman to acknowledge the presence of the dreaded candyman. I swear, they share one working braincell and hinges on the fact ian had said those words once and thought that was all his content's all about
I appreciate you keeping Anisa out of it. I don't like Anisa by ANY means, she's a snake and a horrible person but her bullshit is her own bullshit. Ian's sins are completely his own fault
Yeah the people blaming her don’t understand that 1. They’ve been together since like 2016 so she isn’t the reason he’s turned into a completely different person and 2. Even if she did help change him for the worse, that’s still his decision to change. They’re taking away accountability
It's interesting that through his content, Idubbbz's close peer, Joji has really transformed into something a million miles away from Filthy Frank or Pink Guy. He decided one day to direct his attention to something else, end the chapter he was on and progress into a different career. Pink Guy and Filthy Frank still remain in the space, but his growth as an artist/creator has evolved. Fans of his can see the evolution with some of his Pink Guy projects, despite a lot of the early tracks being vulgar and memey, the later music showed this creative progression, like The Prophecy Pink Guy video and music project. Pewdiepie's growth on UA-cam has been extraordinarily, and he's had his fair share of controversy over the years. He apologised for his mistakes, and actively grew from them. He feels genuine. Idubbbz feels like a content creator who stopped making the videos he was good at, he was critical and satirical, yet, his apologie video feels like he isnt aware of the satire or comedic irony at all. When he was releasing content cop he was in his mid to late 20's, already fully mature as an adult. The recent change feels more an appeasal to the UA-cam rules, and overall 'new' Idubbbz lacks geunine feel of his older content.
@@ZizekTube you say this while having zizek, a guy notorious for making dirty and bigoted jokes for laughs, in your profile name. The irony is lost on you
@@nimbletimplekins7601 Can you give me some examples of Zizek projecting the kind of bigotry that Idubbz was apologizing for? The answer is no, you can't. I've literally spent the last 6 years studying Zizek my guy, just because you watched a 'Zizek jokes' youtube video does not mean we are are the same.
@@ZizekTube if you actually spent 6 years studying zizek you would know he's an outspoken critic of the same political correctness cult that idubbbz is desperately appealing to. Also he makes racist and sexist jokes (and sho on) literally all the time, that's definitely "bigoted".
@@nimbletimplekins7601 Find me Zizek saying 'it's all okay or none of it's okay', i'll wait. You can reject political correctness in different ways, lol.
Hello everyone! I honestly didn't expect to get so many views on this video. It's taken me by surprise a little bit, so thank you all for watching! I post a little schizophrenically on topics that interest me, so I hope you consider sticking around for other videos I have cooking. If not, thanks for stopping by anyway!
Welcome in the realm of UA-cam drama. You just ride on the wave of many videos directed at idubbbs. I watched many of those videos, but yours brought a new point to the table. That makes it one of the best!
Oh and, what was that literal shitty DnB tune you played at the end ? I need it.
@@tonnentonie2767 Thank you for the kind words, brother. That's Idubbbz old outro song. I'm not sure what it's called tho
Just subbed and is there any other way to make videos other than schizophrenically?
This is only your 4th upload since starting 8 months ago; with commentary and editing as good as shown-if you started releasing content at least once every month from now, I bet you could maintain a healthy and consistent rate of growth for your channel. I encourage you to keep up the good work!
I couldn't believe that you only had 4 videos up on your channel & only 1k subs after watching this. It is refreshing to see someone with this kind of talent in video creation, and someone who wishes to be Christ-like at that!
Out of curiosity, what kind of camera & mic do you use to record yourself? The quality is phenomenal!
Good video. Joji is another good example of someone who just grew up and left his old content behind in a healthy, respectable manner
Yes and he even embraces his past!
I mean the main reason people accepted it was because he wasn't a condescending asshole about it
@@reikowallach2465 probably got removed for other reasons like not being socially acceptable there
No way he deleted dog festival directions that song was so fucking funny
I went back to watch content cop. He wasn't even that edgy. Joji on the other hand put a shotgun in his mouth (I presume it was fake or unloaded, but still).
Great take. Pewdiepie represents growth. Idubbbz is stagnation masquerading as change
More like regression
uh oh strasserist
Agreed, pewdiepie always evolved his content, changed depending on what he felt like doing at the time and got his audience to embrace the change, he’s had a hit in every era from playing scary games, to dancing on top of his car during his edgelord phase, to reviving Minecraft and battling big channels for number 1. He’s the model to be followed, there’s a reason he’s stayed king all these years and it’s well deserved. I remember being in elementary school when I first heard of him and over the years, now being 20, I’ve always been able to come back to his content, and happily watch what he was currently making. And I think that applies to teens and adults, I’m glad to see he’s moved to a place he feels at peace and he bouta be a father. He’s uploads vlogs now cuz he wants to, and his fans r happy. He stopped involving himself in the mainstream UA-cam-twitch bullshit n the man seems to be doing great. He’s not here, today, apologizing over the bridge situation or the fiverr situation, because every gets it, it’s over, let it be done.
@@HunterBidensHandgun Agreed. Stagnation would mean that he'd still be creating the same "edgy content" which would be preferable to the wet sock he is now.
I have no question that Idubbz's changes are due to his "wife", she has humiliated him publicly during interviews and made fun of him, expressed 0 interest or "love" towards him (We have an interview of her looking disgusted while saying that Idubbz looks like "white trash"), and all I see is her making use of his corpse to become famous. Idubbz has said that "everything is his fault and his wife is a saint who has been for him all the time" while in the past they confirmed that "it was Anisa's idea to go to the girl to say the n-word" - there's hypocrisy and I have no question that Anisa has brainwashed Idub so that "all the issues in the relationship are with him and that she's the victim of everything" (which is the standard way that ppl like to brainwash the real victims - for example airsoftfatty was also brainwashed/gaslit a similar way).
@@vapinggranny2474 All it is is that Pewdiepie still feels like the same person, just in a different stage of life and environment. Anyone who makes drastic changes to personality as well as lifestyle is faking
Yes, he did disavow ''All of its ok, or none of its ok'', from the same Content Cop where he said '..I'm going to continue to treat black people like they're people'. Ian's message was way more mature back then. Healthy and sincere. His current mindset is just way more fashionable. What a shame.
He still used slurs and shit, which is racist and disrespectful to black people. The n word literally means inferior, not human
@Hel1 Yeah well I never watched Ian religiously, but if I'm not mistaken I think he only said it ironically to that blonde chick(whose name I can't remember) because she would often say n**ger and then accused other people of being racist, and only to prove her hypocrisy. Not sure if he ever said it outside of that unironically, but I could be wrong, as I only casually watched Ian back in the day.
@@hel1yeah254 it means that because people like you want it to mean that. Its like racism gives you purpose
@@hel1yeah254I didn’t know it meant that, I gather most people don’t know it meant that. I always assumed it’s a derivative of negro, the Spanish word for black. Makes more sense, doesn’t it? Lmao the things people say..
I want you to tell me, who most commonly uses that word? And how is it used? Do you listen to rap music?
If people really want the word to die, it’s pretty obvious who needs to stop using it. And it’s not the whites.
Hasan, Vaush and h3: The neckbeard trifecta
I don't think you know what a neckbeard is... 😢
@@chimpana sad bitter people who thrives in toxicity?
Not neck beards. But All three of them make fairly lazy content.
@@chimpanathey're facial hair and hair style makes them look like neck beards
@@batsoupman1697 so Hasan, Vaush and H3?
That point "adopting new political beliefs isn't maturing" is so lost on many people today, particularly Americans, for this reason I really don't like the terms "woke" or "redpill" cause the implication is that someone has an enhanced state of consciousness just cause they adopted a bunch of lame surface level political beliefs
Its the other way around tho, you dont change your political belieaves and mature because of that, you mature and change your political belieaves because of that.
Its easy to get really. And if youre capable of advanced thought on that, you realise its not even a binary as that point makes it out to be.
as binary*
@@DasJigglyThis point does nothing to disprove what the original comment said. You basically just said "nuh uh"
@@vosoryan then read it again and actually think about it rather then applying whatever you want to read there. It makes sense.
Partly BECAUSE i didnt disprove anything.
1. You dont mature because you changed your opinion.
2. You Mature first AND THEN change your opinion.
You might have heard "correlation not causation" somwhere. Really important here in my opnion.
This video is great. I have been thinking this for sooo long.
I always hated hearing people use "growing up" or "maturing" to describe conforming to the easiest opinion to hold.
Especially when people (such as the sidemen) immediately apologise for something so obviously done without destructive intent. HAVE A BACKBONE!
Growth isn't about trying to please everyone, but about being secure in your own beliefs DISPITE how anyone else feels. Old Idubbz was this, that is why we loved him.
You know that his current stance doesn't put him in an easiest position as it basically throws him into a multitude of hateful comments from people who are sour about him not being edgy anymore, right?
You do realize that it does take BACKBONE and guts to present this stance publicly when a huge chunk of your audience is edgelords?
You do realize that iDubbz is not trying to please everyone and does show security in his own beliefs by risking the growth of his channel by presenting his views?
The amount of irony in your comment is amazing, honestly.
@@cyferki123
You have a point, he hasn't made his life "easy" but, the takes he holds today are easier to hold than the ones he used to hold (such as about slurs). Especially in the context of the social circles he involves himself in, the current climate of the internet, and all the pressures on being a public figure.
"HAVE A BACKBONE" was in reference to the Sidemen who: held a day long shoot (didn't see any issues), had creative input in the editing process (didn't see any issues), all reviewed the final cut (didn't see any issues), then pressed upload (not seeing any issues). Only for the video to be met with outrage from some people on twitter offended by the use of a slur.
The Sidemen immediately took the video down and issued an apology about how their actions were unacceptable and they were all so ashamed.
If you can't tell they obviously don't believe this, they knew their intentions and thought the video was funny. I wish they just honest and didn't "break their backs" as soon as they were canceled, realizing anyone trying to cancel them isn't worth thinking about.
I never said Idubbz was trying to please everyone. It was an overarching view on maturity, as was the entire comment.
The comparison with pewdiepie is on point.
We can see what reaching real maturity is, just by looking at him, we see that he's in a good place, he made all the right choices where it mattered.
And then we have Ian and his Yoko Ono.
I really don’t think Anisa is that bad, I mean she’s done some psycho shit on twitter from what I remember but I swear she was with idubz when he was making those content cops and she helped make them
@@theowainwright7406 i've seen clips of her taking credit for alot of stuff. I wonder how much of it was her idea, because there are alot of hard truths idubbz used to say about pornstars, people that sell out, etc... the so called "sex workers" that is basically common sense, and now all of it is bitting them in their ass. And his only defense is "now i'm mature, i grew up" as if he said something really offensive.
Alot of people have a problem with this particular attitude, the act of dismissing his old content as the "bad" content.
its funny, cause people still dispise felix for his past till this day, even if he matured and its been years at this point,
but idubbz with his "horrible content" gets a pass from everyone, just like that.
@Anthony V its all the proof you need that they dont care about actual maturity, you just need to posture as someone who has without doing the legwork to change
@@joshfromsmosh3352d its because Pewds started a war with mainstream media they didn't like him during his edgy phase and Pewds constantly crapped on them for awful reporting
Probably the best take I've heard on the whole thing
Also, holy shit, that old iDubbbz outro music just blasted me with nostalgia
Excellent points made in the video. I haven't seen anyone address the situation in this way and its reliving to see. Its sad to see that maturity is tied to ones ability to conform to the cultural narrative instead of their personal growth and insight. looking forward to more videos keep up the good work!
I like being inmature. I wouldn't even know what to do to grow up. Definitely not some Boxing match😂 That's immature actually
Or you know, not saying slurs anymore for comedic effect is actually maturing instead of “conforming to a cultural narrative”.
@@DeathbatOfSpades you're acting like thats all he did
Oh, what a shitty, conformist thing it is to have empathy and not want to be a jerk to other people! Oh, the disgusting cultural narrative of being kinder to others!
Pewdiepie is actually a really good example of growth. That thumbnail is genius, congrats
What a handsome and charismatic young chap!
Ethan is a prime example of someone dematuring
Righhttt.......
@@hel1yeah254 What's with the sarcasm? You like H3H3?
I completely agree, I've been wanting to see someone actually bring up the "maturing" points because Twitter leftist defending him are doing it without knowing about those videos so they say he grew up out of that "edgy" attitude but the message in Tana's content cop was pretty mature to me.
And hel people still need to learn from it since they still do it nowadays, not only with race but with women too, you can't criticize a woman without being branded as a misogynist even if you have good points to do so, it's kind of ironic, them treating women like babies that handle anything negative seems more sexist to me lol
They're also saying they were wounded and traumatized by his old videos but also saying they never watched him
It saddens me videos like these and Glitch Poachers that cover the subject don't get much traction, but even if they did, most of those terminally online twitter leftists would either
A. Watch less than half of it and counter a bunch of made-up arguments that weren't even made in the video
B. Skim through it, then do the above, on top of blatantly misconstrue the actual arguments made
C. Watch it fully and still misconstrue the actual arguments made
@@standoidontwantalastname6500 I completely agree, I found Glitch poachers thru that video of his, and it was so good I ended binging his entire channel at work a few days ago.
As for example of crazy leftists comments, I got recommended a video last night for some stupid reason by a youtuber called "Peethan" he covered Idubbz's apology and I went straight to the comments because the thumbnail and title gave me breadtube vibes and after reading some of them I wanted to blow my brains out ngl.
I mean that goes along with equality. A woman screws up she should be equally as accountable as a man.
U just said saying the n word to someone to prove the point that she’s a hypocrite is “pretty mature”. Y’all have never thought about any of your opinions in ur life, also what world r u living in where you can’t criticize women without being called a misogynist? Cus it’s not the real world.
Honest.
Dead honest.
In glad felix is enjoying his life.
He earned it.
I may not like him, but he has my respect.
Same, never liked him or his content but he isn't a bad person, just a guy enjoying life and how can you be mad at that? Gotta be a miserable person to hate on him
I don't care for his content anymore but I never disliked him
idubbz and H3h3
from Anti PC to overly sensitive PC who pull the ladder
Comes down to that if you're attacking the right people, you get away with far more
Well said. I also think he’s translating his own self doubt and self loathing into a disgust instinct of both his old content and by reflection his fans. Most of his fans are like you and me who enjoyed the message behind the critiques and bombastic comedy. We weren’t alt-right racist bigots hiding in the basement and neither was he. But he’s convinced that’s what he was, convinced he’s responsible for his fans, convinced his fans must have been terrible because he viewed himself as terrible. No one would have a problem with him moving past his old content (like Joji, like pewds, like max) if he just went and did it. The problem is that he’s morally grandstanding (ironically something he said he shouldn’t have done in reference to his old content). At some points he straight up said his fans are incel bigots that need to learn empathy and grow up. Making claims about the morality of his old base and saying that anyone who disagrees with his newfound sensibilities are hold “tired old views”. That’s the problem, because we aren’t what he characterizes us as and we are the reason he’s so successful. It’s insulting and frankly sad because the insult comes from a place of terrible self loathing that he reflects onto everyone else. He refuses to be charitable to his old self and by reflection is fans.
Great video. It really bothered me that the term 'maturity' kept coming up in that video, as well as in responses. He hasn't matured but merely switched sides and changed his tone, all because he's ruled by his concubine. Hopefully he sees the light some day
It's really annoying me how people keep saying "omg ur so misogyny for saying it's all Anisa's fault!1!!! Like everyone is being so mean so her 😭" WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING INTO HER. like bruh you don't even know shit
@@mikuenjoyerXD ya all the criticism thrown her way seems mean until you learn about 5 mins of her history lol
I like how easily and without consequence people are admitting they were racist because idubbs has positioned himself as an easy scapegoat .
Lol they really do be self reporting
What do you mean "admitting they were racist"??
@Sam Athum that they would bully or harass other based on skin color and incorporate the Nword into the abuse . Also that they got the idea from idubb's videos . Now, a lot of these people are going by their definition of racism which is probably broader than our definition of racism . Some did state that they would say the Nword in front of or directly at black people while in school .
@@samathum4711 also a lot state they were sent into an alt right pipeline or became fascist which is just hilarious idea for a whole host of different reasons .
@@pham9790 put down the bottle and get some rest; you've got work in the morning.
This are my exact thoughts about the whole situation, You did a great job putting them to video, subscribed.
Never forget that the people who are mad about how they made "hateful" content in the past still make the same inflammatory content but have only changed who they target with it.
Great video. Thank you for hitting the "mature" points. It's been driving me crazy and you summed it up perfectly.
I've been saying it for years, Felix earned everything he has, I wouldn't want anyone else at the head of UA-cam, dude is truly a stand up genuine person. Amazing video man, you were succinct and eloquent!
This is put tremondously, you've done a great job respectfully dealing with the topic. Everything is said in a way that even the people it's directed against could watch and understand, which imo is the best thing this type of video can accomplish.
2023 iDubbbz really got that homeless LA dude look going on
Quite representative of his current state
Bro deserves Hundreds of Thousands subscribers, my god man the amount of effort you put in is insane.
Agreed
I want Harley to see this. This is the reason his old fans are mad. Not all his old fans are the ones you see sperging on Twitter or in live chats.
For real, I watched the first Epic Meal Time, and to see him beefing with a bunch of strangers who don't give a fuck about his opinions on Twitter to the point where he's posting literal hundreds of responses... Iunno man, not the Harley I remember saying "gay bacon strips".
These were my exact feelings on the whole matter. Ian just became politically trendy in line with a bunch of other performative douchbags online and a chorus of people called that growing up. This video is a fantastic summary.
Or maybe you're just dumb and have a hard time realizing the apology was bc of his experience with his fans and the impact it had on people watching. His content was full of bigotry that lead to black, brown, lgbtq and certain youtubers harassment and bullying
Being left leaning isn't politically trendy. Being an edge lord a few years back was trendy. These days the right wing media gets 10x more views than any leftist show. If you think changing into a lefty is more profitable than the other way around, then you just don't know what's happening in the western world politically.
idubbbz 2023
"i am sorry i made jokes"
He should have done the Filthy Frank into Joji arc.
I think perhaps the biggest indicator that this is change and not growth, is that Idubbbz only disavowed all his old content when he got called out for saying a lot of the same sorta shit Sam Hyde says now, and that banning FroggyFresh from creator clash for his association with Sam was completely hypocritical and clearly because of his girlfriend.
Idubbbz went full Will Smith basically.
I really like your take on ethan klein, not sure I share your beliefs about saying racial slurs but that’s neither here nor there.
One of idubbbz other issues is that he’s actually not that funny anymore, he could have pivoted away from his edgy content without completely flipping into making safe bullshit but he hasn’t and now is just another vanilla youtuber.
The whole purpose of identity politics is to keep the population from being unified and actually doing some good in the world
Just binged your whole channel. Great work, keep it up!
Very under-rated video. This was really well done
Ethan H3H3 has always been a phony. Leafy exposed him way back when Ethan was talking smack about Pyro behind his back
H3 has not matured if anything hes less matured
Idubbbz criticized himself for morally grandstanding before, while morally grandstanding on his whole video.
It's funny how ironic is when they call themselves mature while becoming sensible boring children.
Ohhhhh, i get it now, treating people with respect and not making content full of bigotry that makes it seem ok to be racist and homophobic is being a childdddd
@@hel1yeah254 By the way you write, I'm not surprised you got those impressions from Content Cop videos.
Learn to write, critical thinking, and then you might have and be able to articulate decent arguments.
@Hel1 Yeah it's extremely obvious you didn't listen to this video or any of his old content. All of its okay or none of its okay.
@@Hozagen who tf do you think you are 😂
@@hel1yeah254 someone who has his shit together and knows more about communication than you do.
You should be grateful that I'm actually answering your gibberish.
Also, people also forgot that Idubz was saying n word to show hypocy of Tana that she was using one slure , but was criticizing for usage of other.
Do I remember it correctly.
(Also he was pronouncing n word as comedy gag, which can be disrespectful and insensitive, which are not nice, but not crime, while never being racist aka hating particular group of people based on their race and having strong prejudice against them).
Your 100% right. Great editing and good job laying out all these points.
This video was Fucking great and you really drove the point home. I’m subbing.
The problem with idubbbz isn't that he stopped saying slurs or bullying people.The problem is his content just isn't entertaining. He went from making genuinely interesting and entertaining content to just making more generic complaining or just uninteresting fidget toy stuff. The squirrel series is the last good content Idubbbz has made in quite some time.
Okay, for a small channel. You did well. Good quality, good confidence and you said the points well.
This is my favourite take on the Idubbbz situation.
He seems more like he's dealing with mental illness - namely a bad depression.
He strikes me as being less than what he was just a few years ago.
Yo loved this video. Very well put together
What I learned is idubbz is a goddamn grifter, riding in whatever internet trend of the decade and switch if it's not profitable anymore. Could have done a "Joji" where he leaves his idubbz persona gracefully and adapt a new persona to his liking. This is not the way to do it.
I can pin point who poisoned the well, but that's for another story. He did this to himself, became spineless hence cant even give a direct confrontation and, recently, horrendous at the logistics of hosting an event made for charity but not one pence where donated to one
Totally agree. Idubbz is your typical trend hopper.
He went from being edgy to an almost annoying degree and then did a 180 and became your virtue signaling SJW.
Pewdiepie is the perfect example of true growth on yt. Dude is often mentioned as a “cause of the adpocalypse” but he seems to have managed to stand in people’s good graces due to his growth.
I've been a long time Idubbbz fan, this video does such an amazing job at explaining Idubbbz lore.
The white dot in the middle of the video freaked me out. Thought I had a dead pixel for a second.
Pewdiepie is the ultimate example of a redemption arc. I'm so excited for him and Marzia as they start their new family. It's just sad because Ian could have had that had he not allowed California to poison his mind.
Subbed. I am 1/200th black and was made in Detroit. I can also say what I want. Props for using the uneditted version of idupppz even if you lost monetization
My guy is a genius please continue making videos
Word brother. Idubbbz has taught (hopefully) a lot of people that equality is the most important thing. Just sad that most people only remember the bullying.
Thank you for making this video. It summarizes almost everything I completely agree with.
His own girlfriend said she likes controlling people, idk why you're defending them when there is proof that his girlfriend has been manipulating things this whole time...
Its all statred with the simp incident
lets see the proof then, nephew
Bro. Idubbbz, max, frank and the fat dude were peak youtube. Idc
I've always seen h3 and idubz "maturity" as a spontaneous reaction to the shift in social climate, especially in regards to the internet. It just simply doesn't come off as genuine. The way i see it, they both just went from one extreme to the another.
twitter folk defending a content creator who's pivoting towards their camp by using the terms "sex worker" and "woman" interchangeably in an argument is for sure the best metric to gauge their moral compass with
I was an Idubbbz fan back in the good old days. Disgusting to watch him run off with his money and reject the people who made him
no one made him, he does not owe you shit. he made content you enjoyed watching dont act like you did him a favor
@@amiralimirhashemian6067 Of course they did. Literally everyone at that time made him what the f are you yapping on about. Those 50 milion views on the (jake paul) rice gum content cop totally didnt "make him" apparently.
Love the vid man. Such a real take on the whole mess and charismatic to boot.
5:57 Erm... what the Pflugerville?
Obligatory J J J J J J J
Love your attitude Oliver and your way of explaining yourself. Good stuff.
You don't have to grow, as long as you share an ideology!
I agree with your takes on his old videos, it's also sad to me hearing him say that he's afraid that he can't be funny or hear him act as if all the humor was in the shocking remarks. He had this goofy charisma that was really charming in his old videos and you could even still see some of that in his squirrel video he uploaded on his second channel.
If IDubbz grew he would be able to give credit to the genuine position of his old fans; we miss the attitude and the willingness to take someone to task in spite of their audience size, not the edginess.
This video makes me appreciate the direction Joji (Filthy Frank) took even more... I miss him bros it's unreal.
This was great you earned a sub
Very good analysis
Damn; the best perspective I've seen on this!
Thanks for putting out a concise well thought out video a lot of “commentary” channels were close but missing the point
excellent video! you've earned a sub.
From Idubbbz to Ldubbbz.
iDubbbz pulled a Howard Stern
😂 yup this
Why does everyone say that If you watched those kind of UA-camrs that you were anti-SJW in 2016? It sounds like they're just trying to say that you were on the right and not with them.
What bothered me the most was when he retracted the "either all of it or none of it" argument. He called the argument stupid and wrong. But then he didnt even explain why it was wrong. He just couldnt be bothered having such an opinion
I was in high school when I watched the Tana Content cop. I don't get what the fuck the problem is, he acts like the only reason he did and said anything was solely to be racist. Even back then I didn't get the issue with words under the proper context. Ethan is a huge disappointment, I hope he gets something thrown his way that actually gets him to realize why so many people don't like him. Nothing malicious, but something that gets him to at least make sense of it
"Matured" in there case just means "sold out"
Awesome video. Measured, thoughtful takes. Intelligence and common sense on display
ethan klien be like:
working out for an hour: "cringe, we only have so much time on this world, why would I do that?"
beating off for an hour: "that's just America baby"
This should have 1 million views. Ethan Klein is a worse person than he has ever been.
Great video, dawg 💯💚
I think the root of your critique makes sense. Being edgy can be used in a positive way to challenge social norms and what society values. What's important however is how you direct your edginess. Andrew Tate talking about abusing women is edgy because it challenges the societal norm that women are human beings that deserve respect. Hasan Piker saying America deserved 9/11 is also edgy because it challenges the normalized idea of American Exceptionalism. The difference lies in the underlying critique. Andrew Tate wants to push back against women's rights and does not view women as equals. Hasan wants to push against American imperialism and the destruction of other sovereign nations due to American intervention. A white guy saying the n-word is edgy because the n-word was used to dehumanize black people and therefore using it is an inherit endorsement of that idea, so the position of all of 'it' is ok or none of 'it' is ok lacks the nuance of what 'it' is.
Your ideas about equality are also slightly skewed. Ideally in a post racist society where nothing in the past affects the future the thought that everyone is treated equally is good, but that's not the society we live in. It's a given that your spawn point in life gives you advantages. If you come from massive wealth then your opportunities in life are far greater than some one who grew up below the poverty line. Add in the fact that historically the systems were set up to favor a certain gender and race, then it becomes easier to understand why certain groups become marginalized. That's why idubbbz and H3H3 have grown. They've come to realize that they should focus their edginess towards groups who have historically had power i.e. punching up rather than punching down.
When Ethan says "Bomb the NRA" everyone loses their mind, but America bombs Afghanistan and Iraq regularly and that's been normalized. Why is that? I'd argue that the NRA has been a more deadly force in the United States than any middle eastern terror cell by making sure every depressed white teen has access to a weapon designed to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time.
Ethan is kind of a dumb guy he'd tell you that himself. He likes stupid humor and making dumb jokes. He doesn't argue with Crowder in good faith because he knows he isn't good at refuting points. He is also aware of this. He used the Crowder interview to expose how Crowder doesn't enter debates in good faith either. Crowder just looks for easy people to dunk on and will duck people who can actually refute his talking points. (Also "life's to short to exercise" is clearly said in jest).
Also You missed the point in the Froggy Fresh video, by a lot actually. He's not smearing froggy fresh because froggy fresh doesn't like sex work. He's explaining why he removed Froggy Fresh from the card. He very clearly in that video said it wasn't about Anisa it was about Froggy's involvement with Sam Hyde, which is pretty reasonable considering all the shit Sam Hyde has said about Idubbbz, Anisa, and Sam's ties to the alt-right.
TL;DR: the growth idubbbz and Ethan experienced was not about how childish they were but about how there worldview has shifted to include nuanced perspectives about how their words affect people.
Overall good video you articulated your points well, but your conclusions leave a little to be desired.
What's most insane is that people think others hating on Ian has anything to do with the n-word... That's not AT ALL why people are upset. People are upset because he's a crybaby who let Hyde get underneath his skin, took his WIFE'S last name, and let himself get Yoko'd. People are upset that he doesn't have a spine anymore... not that he's not screaming the n-word.
They are too fixated on that strawman to acknowledge the presence of the dreaded candyman. I swear, they share one working braincell and hinges on the fact ian had said those words once and thought that was all his content's all about
Awesome video. Very based take on the situation.
Half of UA-cam is meta meta meta video essays about video essays, but this was well made. Bravo.
I appreciate you keeping Anisa out of it. I don't like Anisa by ANY means, she's a snake and a horrible person but her bullshit is her own bullshit. Ian's sins are completely his own fault
Yeah the people blaming her don’t understand that 1. They’ve been together since like 2016 so she isn’t the reason he’s turned into a completely different person and 2. Even if she did help change him for the worse, that’s still his decision to change. They’re taking away accountability
100 percent agreed
It's interesting that through his content, Idubbbz's close peer, Joji has really transformed into something a million miles away from Filthy Frank or Pink Guy. He decided one day to direct his attention to something else, end the chapter he was on and progress into a different career. Pink Guy and Filthy Frank still remain in the space, but his growth as an artist/creator has evolved. Fans of his can see the evolution with some of his Pink Guy projects, despite a lot of the early tracks being vulgar and memey, the later music showed this creative progression, like The Prophecy Pink Guy video and music project.
Pewdiepie's growth on UA-cam has been extraordinarily, and he's had his fair share of controversy over the years. He apologised for his mistakes, and actively grew from them. He feels genuine.
Idubbbz feels like a content creator who stopped making the videos he was good at, he was critical and satirical, yet, his apologie video feels like he isnt aware of the satire or comedic irony at all. When he was releasing content cop he was in his mid to late 20's, already fully mature as an adult. The recent change feels more an appeasal to the UA-cam rules, and overall 'new' Idubbbz lacks geunine feel of his older content.
Watched a lot of videos on the situation and this is definitely the best take. What Ethan, Idubbz etc. are doing seems very greasy and insincere.
I see you've been watching Fish Tank. Were you on anybody's team for most of it?
great vid, loved the outro!
😢 rip having fun and being silly online.
If you can't have fun without using bigotry, you're probably just a bigot. Perhaps try to educate yourself...
@@ZizekTube you say this while having zizek, a guy notorious for making dirty and bigoted jokes for laughs, in your profile name. The irony is lost on you
@@nimbletimplekins7601 Can you give me some examples of Zizek projecting the kind of bigotry that Idubbz was apologizing for? The answer is no, you can't.
I've literally spent the last 6 years studying Zizek my guy, just because you watched a 'Zizek jokes' youtube video does not mean we are are the same.
@@ZizekTube if you actually spent 6 years studying zizek you would know he's an outspoken critic of the same political correctness cult that idubbbz is desperately appealing to. Also he makes racist and sexist jokes (and sho on) literally all the time, that's definitely "bigoted".
@@nimbletimplekins7601 Find me Zizek saying 'it's all okay or none of it's okay', i'll wait. You can reject political correctness in different ways, lol.
you said it so well, like i literally dont have anything else to add. im glad there are people with common sense ^-^ great vid!
Great video brother
brother
Nice vid lol i like the old dubz music at the end
Did i see a clip of simon who was in the fishtank?
Didn't know why I was subbed. Then i saw your Nick Fuentes video. You should do more content
6:19 I'm still disoriented by him walking back that message like it was racist. Topsy-turvy.