It’s hard to consider anything involving a championship game a bust. At that point the margin between the teams is so small the outcome comes down to any little thing.
Even if the Ravens win the SB Harbaugh should be GONE! Why??? It took him six years to figure out what he should have known at year two!!! And what would be worse is if the Ravens still dont win meaning Harbargh is STILL in the dark!!!
Sarah blames everything on anyone but Lamar and zay when there performances in the afc championship caused us the afc championship game if players execute, we win I’m tired of hearing about the game plan
@@410mademe9The "fumble" was the cause of a great defensive play. The Ravens O-line was terrible last season. Lamar was scrambling for his life. In the Texans and Chiefs game.
Unless you watch most of the entire Raven’s games, you probably won’t see what Raven fans have seen for years from Harbaugh. Changing coaches is what Harbaugh has done since he has been the Raven’s coach and nothing changes. We continue to have “the same” issues. Why wait for it to happen again. His stubborn stances are clearly showing you that he thinks that he is bigger than the Ravens, the players, and the fans. It’s no way that he should have allowed last year to mimic what happened in 2019. How many times do you have a real opportunity to win a Super Bowl. It really doesn’t matter how long it took other great quarterbacks to win super bows. The 2 great quarterbacks that did win several Super Bowls early in their careers had a great coach as well. Lamar should have 2 Super Bowls already. Last year and 2019 the Raven’s team and Lamar individually were clearly and overwhelmingly the best team and quarterback which should have resulted into Super Bowls
Harbaugh needs to be gone since 2020 he can’t win big games anymore just get a modern coach with a good offensive mind defense is set as it’s the ravens
He might not need to go on as big of a run as you think. If they block the chiefs 3peat and lamar can pull off a 3peat, i think thats good for best qb in nfl history, or even if he goes undefeated in multiple super bowls would do the trick. Something mahomes or brady can't accomplish anymore
@georgekeeney3088 Yes, if it were up to me, i would put montana at the top, but the reality is very few people do that. The debate for goat right now has been between mahomes and brady. Montana doesn't get mentioned the majority of the time. And yes, montana is 4 and 0 in the Super Bowl. But what if lamar goes 5-0? I never said no qb has ever gone undefeated in the Super Bowl. i just said that is something neither mahomes nor brady has done. And well last time i checked a 3peat is something montana has never done
@jimkeister4150 I understand...Montana usually is always mentioned In my circles so i only brought it up cause you diddnt mention him...its a generational thing cause the younger generation does debate mahomes vs Brady cause of mahomes start to his career but Montana is still ahead of mahomes at the moment in every stat that matters & you are correct joe don't get mentioned enough nationally except among football fans... & lamar will be at the pinnacle some point soon!
Yes he is! No one wants to say it. But 8 saved Harbs job. & Harbs knows it. That's where half of what he saying is coming from. & now he seein how Lamar can really spin it. He didnt feel that way about 8 till 2021 2022.. Thats when his form changed in we seen vast improvements in his technique. He didnt even think he was going to be this good. If he felt this way about him earlier in his career then he would have got rid of greg roman earlier. & gottem a real OC. We havent even seen half of whats in Lamars bag. He really is the most Talented QB ever. TB12 & Steve knows something. 8 just has to put in the pudding!
When and if they fire the HC, he will get a team the next day. All HC are not perfect. We have a very good team, who ever is the HC should have good odds to win the SB.
There’s another variable. Who’s there to fill a head coaching job and how quickly could their coaching team get the Ravens to a top 4 team. Because Lamar’s career peak is on the clock now. If it takes them three seasons to get back there that’s a problem.
Pretty much. In thevlamar era the ravens have had 2 different qbs start a playoff game and 2 different oc call a playoff game. With the same results. Harbaugh is the only common denominator
Wtf are yall talking about?😂😂😂 This is pure fan craziness. Saying super bowl (or the equivalent in another sport) or bust has meant the same thing my entire life......WIN IT ALL OR THE SEASON IS A FAILURE. There is NO WAY yall don't know that 😂. That entire discussion seemed very..... "theatrical" to me. ______ or bust means either you accomplish ______or its a failure regardless of what else happens.
At this point, he is. But they also won't go all in on offense like they do the defense. At least, get a #1 receiver and let the chips fall where they may. Its a weird situation.
Dating reference just for Bobby - Everybody's out here trying to leave their longtime girl for the new hotness. Ask the young, smart offensive kyle shanahan how he feels about losing in the playoffs. Mcvay got lucky that the bungals beat Pat.
I believe he is on the hot seat, I have been calling for his job since we went on a playoff drought. If we have another playoff disappointment, then you fire him. We need a young offensive minded head coach. Someone like Ben Johnson from the Lions. We cannot keep settling with mediocrity.
Smh.. qbs do NOT win games. Why are you saying the greatest of all times wins SB? Tell me a QB who won a SB without a ol, def, wr, coaching?? Lamar can't do it all. He can be the greatest with a SB. It's a team sport. What team sport only needs one player to be successful to win championships? This is why Mina keeps repeating this. It makes no sense to say a QB wins anything. They don't.
Harbs shouldn't be on the hot seat! He is a winning head coach Football is a business correct?!? So in business you are telling me that you have to be the top seller to be successful?!? Not consistent sales & making profit? Cause it seems we are pretty consistent and have come close and the window is still wide open!... I get we want a ring as fans but lets call it what it is....& that is a business
Nick Wright has no idea what he's talking about, Flacco wasn't even hurt or anything, Harbaugh was on the hotseat and was forced to bench Flacco because the team had 3 back to back to back losing records by the bye week, 3-4, 4-5, and 4-5 yet again... they were literally in danger for missing the postseason for a 3rd time lamar basically said, hold my beer
Joe Flacco hurt his right hip vs the Squeelers. He was 4-5 at that point. And, never played another down for the Ravens. When Lamar took over his rookie season... he finished the regular season with a 6-1 record to salvage the playoff drought.
Harbaugh is certainly not on the hot seat...all coach has done since he's walked in the door at Baltimore is win...he's a winner...he loves the Ravens organization...there isn't a coach I would rather have leading out Ravens than Harbaugh...he's won a Super Bowl, and I guarantee you, he'll win another one soon...this guy knows how to lead a team, a team of men...the players all respect him...they play hard for him...he knows how to adapt to his players...this guy is the perfect coach for the Ravens...no way do the Ravens give up on that, Harbaugh will be with the Ravens for the foreseeable future
@joeyponz didn't he win a Super Bowl before Lamar ?? Just be careful what you wish for, once he's gone, he's gone...I remember Brian Billick days too...this organization has been nothing bit a winner since coach got here
@joeyponz he was the head coach tho...every coach who has ever won the Super Bowl has had a ton of talent on the team...I'll say this and we can just agree to disagree ok, but, if the Ravens were to fire Harbaugh, he would have his next job within an hour...an hour...you gotta learn to appreciate what you have...we have a winning culture and championship mentality every season
Coach 'Harbs' missed 4 out of 5 playoffs prior to drafting Lamar. Then we have the #1 rushing offense by a 25 yard avg since Lamar's been the starter. Why abandon it come playoff time? That's good coaching to you? His gameplans & lack of adjustments have been *HORRENDOUS* in the playoffs as well. Meanwhile; we've dominated all regular season w/ the *BEST* record. Just to suddenly go into an "identity crisis," repeatedly. When is enough, enough?
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It’s hard to consider anything involving a championship game a bust. At that point the margin between the teams is so small the outcome comes down to any little thing.
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Even if the Ravens win the SB Harbaugh should be GONE! Why??? It took him six years to figure out what he should have known at year two!!! And what would be worse is if the Ravens still dont win meaning Harbargh is STILL in the dark!!!
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Yesss he is and should be.
He should be fired ? I think he’s just not good enough for the job
Only thing I dislike about Harby is how he stands there and let his team struggle at times instead of demanding the appropriate adjustments
That’s a special teams coach with a HC job for ya
Bust is over used. It once meant salary cap disaster and the Team has to be overhauled drastically. Meaning the Team cannot be paid as is again.
John should have been fired after the Titans playoff game loss at M&T four years ago !
The worst coaching job I’ve ever seen
Sarah is far more interesting than Bobby.
Sarah blames everything on anyone but Lamar and zay when there performances in the afc championship caused us the afc championship game if players execute, we win I’m tired of hearing about the game plan
@@410mademe9 Lamar doesn't call the plays or did he fumble at the goal line.
@@410mademe9The "fumble" was the cause of a great defensive play. The Ravens O-line was terrible last season. Lamar was scrambling for his life. In the Texans and Chiefs game.
Seriously yes... cant make all those mistake in playoff again n again and again...
Sarah stop changing stuff that already has definitions. Bust has always meant fail. It means Superbowl or you failed. Its not hard to understand.
Should Be Anything Less Than A SB Appearance Is A Failure This Year
I'll always love and believe in Harbaugh. I trust him unless he is challenging something then I'm nervous lol.
They’ve been out coached every year since Lamar has been in the league
Unless you watch most of the entire Raven’s games, you probably won’t see what Raven fans have seen for years from Harbaugh. Changing coaches is what Harbaugh has done since he has been the Raven’s coach and nothing changes. We continue to have “the same” issues. Why wait for it to happen again. His stubborn stances are clearly showing you that he thinks that he is bigger than the Ravens, the players, and the fans. It’s no way that he should have allowed last year to mimic what happened in 2019. How many times do you have a real opportunity to win a Super Bowl. It really doesn’t matter how long it took other great quarterbacks to win super bows. The 2 great quarterbacks that did win several Super Bowls early in their careers had a great coach as well.
Lamar should have 2 Super Bowls already. Last year and 2019 the Raven’s team and Lamar individually were clearly and overwhelmingly the best team and quarterback which should have resulted into Super Bowls
Harbaugh needs to be gone since 2020 he can’t win big games anymore just get a modern coach with a good offensive mind defense is set as it’s the ravens
Lamar will definitely be the best QB of all time, if he can make it over the John Harbaugh hurdle to win a superbowl !👿
He might not need to go on as big of a run as you think. If they block the chiefs 3peat and lamar can pull off a 3peat, i think thats good for best qb in nfl history, or even if he goes undefeated in multiple super bowls would do the trick. Something mahomes or brady can't accomplish anymore
@jimkeister4150
Montana is at the top of the mountain as well with Brady and ahead of mahomes & is undefeated In multiple superbowl appearances!
@georgekeeney3088 Yes, if it were up to me, i would put montana at the top, but the reality is very few people do that. The debate for goat right now has been between mahomes and brady. Montana doesn't get mentioned the majority of the time. And yes, montana is 4 and 0 in the Super Bowl. But what if lamar goes 5-0? I never said no qb has ever gone undefeated in the Super Bowl. i just said that is something neither mahomes nor brady has done. And well last time i checked a 3peat is something montana has never done
@jimkeister4150
I understand...Montana usually is always mentioned In my circles so i only brought it up cause you diddnt mention him...its a generational thing cause the younger generation does debate mahomes vs Brady cause of mahomes start to his career but Montana is still ahead of mahomes at the moment in every stat that matters & you are correct joe don't get mentioned enough nationally except among football fans... & lamar will be at the pinnacle some point soon!
@georgekeeney3088 im just saying that no qb has gotten a 3peat. And if lamar can, I feel that puts him in goat status if that makes sense
Yes he is! No one wants to say it. But 8 saved Harbs job. & Harbs knows it. That's where half of what he saying is coming from. & now he seein how Lamar can really spin it. He didnt feel that way about 8 till 2021 2022.. Thats when his form changed in we seen vast improvements in his technique. He didnt even think he was going to be this good. If he felt this way about him earlier in his career then he would have got rid of greg roman earlier. & gottem a real OC. We havent even seen half of whats in Lamars bag. He really is the most Talented QB ever. TB12 & Steve knows something. 8 just has to put in the pudding!
When and if they fire the HC, he will get a team the next day. All HC are not perfect. We have a very good team, who ever is the HC should have good odds to win the SB.
I bet you were going to the Super Bowl this year. I guarantee it Lamar Jackson is number one.🐦⬛🖤💜
There’s another variable. Who’s there to fill a head coaching job and how quickly could their coaching team get the Ravens to a top 4 team. Because Lamar’s career peak is on the clock now. If it takes them three seasons to get back there that’s a problem.
She don’t know what bust mean
Harbaugh deserves to be on the hot seat. The coaching staff is mostly responsible for the recent playoff losses.
Pretty much. In thevlamar era the ravens have had 2 different qbs start a playoff game and 2 different oc call a playoff game. With the same results. Harbaugh is the only common denominator
First of all no he doesn’t. Harbaugh has his warts just like anyone else but to act like a coach of his caliber is easy to find is delusional
Wtf are yall talking about?😂😂😂 This is pure fan craziness. Saying super bowl (or the equivalent in another sport) or bust has meant the same thing my entire life......WIN IT ALL OR THE SEASON IS A FAILURE. There is NO WAY yall don't know that 😂. That entire discussion seemed very..... "theatrical" to me.
______ or bust means either you accomplish ______or its a failure regardless of what else happens.
He’s at a 6.5/10 on hot seat. If we don’t win it goes to an 8/10 next season.
At this point, he is. But they also won't go all in on offense like they do the defense. At least, get a #1 receiver and let the chips fall where they may. Its a weird situation.
He should be
Dating reference just for Bobby - Everybody's out here trying to leave their longtime girl for the new hotness. Ask the young, smart offensive kyle shanahan how he feels about losing in the playoffs. Mcvay got lucky that the bungals beat Pat.
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I believe he is on the hot seat, I have been calling for his job since we went on a playoff drought. If we have another playoff disappointment, then you fire him. We need a young offensive minded head coach. Someone like Ben Johnson from the Lions. We cannot keep settling with mediocrity.
Agreed. Or Texans OC Bobby Slowik who we interviewed for the coordinator job. Ultimately hiring OC Todd Monken.
Smh.. qbs do NOT win games. Why are you saying the greatest of all times wins SB? Tell me a QB who won a SB without a ol, def, wr, coaching?? Lamar can't do it all. He can be the greatest with a SB. It's a team sport. What team sport only needs one player to be successful to win championships? This is why Mina keeps repeating this. It makes no sense to say a QB wins anything. They don't.
You dont move on from this type of coach....stop
Harbs shouldn't be on the hot seat! He is a winning head coach
Football is a business correct?!?
So in business you are telling me that you have to be the top seller to be successful?!?
Not consistent sales & making profit?
Cause it seems we are pretty consistent and have come close and the window is still wide open!... I get we want a ring as fans but lets call it what it is....& that is a business
Nick Wright has no idea what he's talking about, Flacco wasn't even hurt or anything, Harbaugh was on the hotseat and was forced to bench Flacco because the team had 3 back to back to back losing records by the bye week, 3-4, 4-5, and 4-5 yet again... they were literally in danger for missing the postseason for a 3rd time lamar basically said, hold my beer
Joe Flacco hurt his right hip vs the Squeelers. He was 4-5 at that point. And, never played another down for the Ravens. When Lamar took over his rookie season... he finished the regular season with a 6-1 record to salvage the playoff drought.
The irony. YOU are wrong and have no idea what you are talking about
Harbaugh is certainly not on the hot seat...all coach has done since he's walked in the door at Baltimore is win...he's a winner...he loves the Ravens organization...there isn't a coach I would rather have leading out Ravens than Harbaugh...he's won a Super Bowl, and I guarantee you, he'll win another one soon...this guy knows how to lead a team, a team of men...the players all respect him...they play hard for him...he knows how to adapt to his players...this guy is the perfect coach for the Ravens...no way do the Ravens give up on that, Harbaugh will be with the Ravens for the foreseeable future
He was close to a losing record until lamar came into the picture. Before lamar the ravens were on the brink of missing the playoffs again in 2018
@joeyponz didn't he win a Super Bowl before Lamar ?? Just be careful what you wish for, once he's gone, he's gone...I remember Brian Billick days too...this organization has been nothing bit a winner since coach got here
@@jaynizzle1540 yeah he did bjt he also had anquan boldin, ed reed, ray lewis, terrell suggs etx so it wasnt all him.
@joeyponz he was the head coach tho...every coach who has ever won the Super Bowl has had a ton of talent on the team...I'll say this and we can just agree to disagree ok, but, if the Ravens were to fire Harbaugh, he would have his next job within an hour...an hour...you gotta learn to appreciate what you have...we have a winning culture and championship mentality every season
Coach 'Harbs' missed 4 out of 5 playoffs prior to drafting Lamar. Then we have the #1 rushing offense by a 25 yard avg since Lamar's been the starter. Why abandon it come playoff time? That's good coaching to you? His gameplans & lack of adjustments have been *HORRENDOUS* in the playoffs as well. Meanwhile; we've dominated all regular season w/ the *BEST* record. Just to suddenly go into an "identity crisis," repeatedly. When is enough, enough?