I essentially agree with Chomsky's analysis. Great men and women are possible when the PEOPLE make them possible. We do sometimes get the leaders we deserve.
I don’t think Trump/Boris Johnson would ever have been elected at any other point in time. US/U.K. have to ask themselves, how did our society allow these two to come into power? In Johnson’s case he has long held aspirations of becoming PM. I think he’s a very accurate reflection of modern day Britain, dishonest, adulterous, no respect for himself let alone others, shallow and vacuous. All these traits are common place in our society. Neither Trump/Johnson are conservative, not even close.
This is exactly what I think about when all of those clowns in the Democratic party tell people to just wait and not make too much noise and hopefully one day in the distant future our demands will be met. Fuck all of that. They've made it clear through their years and years of inaction along with their acceptance of money from the financial/pharmaceutical/military arms/insurance industries that they have no interest in actually fighting for Progressive causes. The people have to do it themselves.
Too right, mate, the real power lies at the bottom of the pyramid, not the top, so it's on us, the working masses to change society from the bottom up not the other way around.
Chomsky hit it! The civil rights issues wasn't just a Southern issue, it was happening in the North; Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Harlem, Baltimore, then on over to the West in Watts, Los Angeles. The differences of the discrimination of blacks between the South and North were polar. In the South, almost everything was segregated from schools to buses. Voting had been stymied, and you had the Klan running rampant with state and local governments turning a blind eye. While the South was very overt in their discrimination, the North was very underhanded! Police brutality and summary executions. High incarceration rates for petty offenses. Discriminatory hiring practices. Unequal pay for the same work. Established ghettos. The thing about MLK that sets him on a plane of his own is that it seemed he was always two steps ahead. He knew the new discrimination in America would be poverty within an unjust capitalist system. He was right, and sadly I feel, our government assassinated him along with Bobby Kennedy for this!
Read the chapter on MLK in Cornell West's Black Prophetic Fire. He has a much better analysis of the situation, with a lot of the detail of how MLK organized the movement. As the matter of fact, he sort of criticizes Chomsky's approach to social change in the same set of paragraphs.
What I think Chomsky misses here is that being able to positively channel zeitgeist, or more mundane pedestrian trends, is a skill all in itself. FDR had it. MLK had it. Hitler had it too but of course in a hateful way that meant, as Plato would have predicted, inevitably led to self destruction. But we should not say great leaders are just an illusion. From Alexander the Great to Churchill, we have many examples that show that isn't true.
Theres another layer to this story as well. MLKs work addressing growing unemployment was a real concern and it was a big issue in the country as a whole at the time as well. Thats why JFK came up with what would eventually became the Revenue Act of 1964. Kennedy actually proposed MASSIVE tax cuts, both for individuals and for corporations, for the purpose of increasing income, encouraging investment, and reducing the unemployment problem in the country. He was assassinated before he could put this into action, but Lyndon Johnson did, with support from both democrats and republicans, and it worked well by reducing unemployment
I remember him taking about how he couldn't listen to MLK speak because he's too flowery and positive instead of painfully realistic. I'm guessing he may have preferred Malcolm X.
❤️🇵🇹❤️Would be very very reasonable to also have a Native American National Heritage Day (after all, the land belongs to them first and foremost, before us, black or white)❣️White-washing this important day with Anglo tradition filled with feasts and arrogance, under the veil of thanks-giving, frankly is a mockery, and just adds salt to centuries-old wound.
The problem with using MLK as an example is that he was a preacher standing in for the so-called savior that would one day arrive. MLK taking on civil rights and racism is fine and worthy but the fact that he embraced Christianity is a disgrace precisely because he bought the malarky about a savior and he acted like one. And in the end he taught black people to embrace a modern form of slavery with the pretense that they, the black people, would have some control over their condition. In the end, he taught the oppressed to believe they were being liberated from oppression when in fact the purpose of Christianity is to oppress people for the benefit of those already in charge. I find is truly bizarre that anyone of African descent embraces Christianity - the primary tool of imperialism, genocide and enslavement used to justify the capture and transport of blacks from Africa to America in the first place.
@@tazzioboca What's your point? All religions for thousands of years were state religions forced on people against their will. Christianity is immoral and therefore so too are the teachings of MLK when he forces civil rights or civil liberties to be packaged with his disgraceful delusions of Christianity which, ironically, was used as motivation to enslave Africans in the first place. No religion, whether state or otherwise, has any place in modern life.
Yes Noam, and then you crap on the people that try to start that movement and tell them to shut up and get in line, unapologetically The worst part is you're definitely smart enough to know, so it's clear you do it on purpose
But you need a leader to bind the movement. Otherwise it would be uncoordinated, incoherent and disorganized like the BLM and Occupy movements have been.
True. The problem with BLM is that there really isn't any standards to be a member of the group... other than be black. As such, when idiots do violence in their name, the media won't report it when most BLM 'leaders' call them out on it and denounce them. A singular voice to go to for the movement would be beneficial to the cause.
I've been saying this for years. When I think of those movements, as an average relatively informed person, no specific face comes to mind. Usually that one face represents the values of said movement.
Noam Chomsky is one man who see below the surface
America is lucky with this man..
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Most of them don't even know this awesome guy
"Prophet is not respected in his own country" - Bible. World is lucky with Noam Chomsky
I have a dream ...is the "Disney" version of King. He was one radical brother.
Malcolm X is better
@@bolerobolero5668 big facts X>MLK
He was nowhere CLOSE to radical. But extremely significant, respectable individual
@@dipropraubha9434 except for the white woman
@@fliprodriguez5250 that was fbi propaganda.
Chomsky, we love you.
Be a sycophant in your own name please. You don't speak for me.
No, no we do not.
And that's why there are so many superhero movies.
I essentially agree with Chomsky's analysis. Great men and women are possible when the PEOPLE make them possible. We do sometimes get the leaders we deserve.
I don’t think Trump/Boris Johnson would ever have been elected at any other point in time. US/U.K. have to ask themselves, how did our society allow these two to come into power? In Johnson’s case he has long held aspirations of becoming PM. I think he’s a very accurate reflection of modern day Britain, dishonest, adulterous, no respect for himself let alone others, shallow and vacuous. All these traits are common place in our society. Neither Trump/Johnson are conservative, not even close.
It follows from the point chomsky is making here that we *always* get the leaders we deserve.
Like TRUMP. BIDEN Bush Clinton. SHIT we always get what someone thinks we NEED. ? WHY.
Loving MLK to this day great strong leader , Chomsky I love him too , in fact I love all human beings one love
This man is a human treasure
Noam Chomsky is a Highly Intelligent and intellectual individual!!!
This is exactly what I think about when all of those clowns in the Democratic party tell people to just wait and not make too much noise and hopefully one day in the distant future our demands will be met. Fuck all of that. They've made it clear through their years and years of inaction along with their acceptance of money from the financial/pharmaceutical/military arms/insurance industries that they have no interest in actually fighting for Progressive causes. The people have to do it themselves.
Too right, mate, the real power lies at the bottom of the pyramid, not the top, so it's on us, the working masses to change society from the bottom up not the other way around.
What do you mean when you say progressive?
Safe to say that we have not heard a Roarrrr, James Michael Campbell.
Hear, hear, Tinisha Foster. gotta b. There is a huge profit in fake disaster response. (See "Disaster Capitalism")
That was excellent too. These two books were a real eye opener for me.
Chomsky hit it! The civil rights issues wasn't just a Southern issue, it was happening in the North; Chicago, Detroit, Philly, Harlem, Baltimore, then on over to the West in Watts, Los Angeles. The differences of the discrimination of blacks between the South and North were polar.
In the South, almost everything was segregated from schools to buses. Voting had been stymied, and you had the Klan running rampant with state and local governments turning a blind eye.
While the South was very overt in their discrimination, the North was very underhanded! Police brutality and summary executions. High incarceration rates for petty offenses. Discriminatory hiring practices. Unequal pay for the same work. Established ghettos.
The thing about MLK that sets him on a plane of his own is that it seemed he was always two steps ahead. He knew the new discrimination in America would be poverty within an unjust capitalist system. He was right, and sadly I feel, our government assassinated him along with Bobby Kennedy for this!
somebody did. John Lennon and JFK too. "true power is concealed"-Yuval harari
@@greatmcluhansghost7134 lol jfk wasnt a threat to capital
It’s STILL happening in the north. Philly, New York and Boston are some of the most segregated cities in the country.
bobby kennedy?
@@greatmcluhansghost7134 Chomsky on JFK:
ua-cam.com/video/3viLdxT4Tek/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GreenandRedPodcast
He always makes sense, right on money
Oh boy I miss those days
Brilliant stuff from Noam Chomsky as usual.
Today is MLK day and I've been binge watching philosophy videos on UA-cam today and came across this one.
Martin Luther King Jr's Dream Will Never Die his Spirit Lives on in Hope!!! 🙌🕊
Great.
I both conflict and agree with many of this man's conclusions. However, he certainly is brilliant and a voice worth hearing with an open mind!
Care to share what you don't agree with him on - genuinely interested to know...though I realise it's been 10 months since you put up that comment.
Read the chapter on MLK in Cornell West's Black Prophetic Fire. He has a much better analysis of the situation, with a lot of the detail of how MLK organized the movement. As the matter of fact, he sort of criticizes Chomsky's approach to social change in the same set of paragraphs.
This is a 3 minute comment, not a detailed essay.
I don't think the criticism of Chomsky means this comment but instead the general overview of Chomsky's position on social change.
What were his thoughts on Chomsky’s approach?
Good stuff.
What I think Chomsky misses here is that being able to positively channel zeitgeist, or more mundane pedestrian trends, is a skill all in itself. FDR had it. MLK had it. Hitler had it too but of course in a hateful way that meant, as Plato would have predicted, inevitably led to self destruction. But we should not say great leaders are just an illusion. From Alexander the Great to Churchill, we have many examples that show that isn't true.
Just brilliance from this man's mouth
Savior will come and Mr Chomsky will be on he’s saving list About Dr King if they was not afraid of him they willing bother pulling the trigger
This guy is wisdom of Solomon 🧙♂️
A spark from another. Thank you for that
Everybody wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die !
Well the Islamic/Jihadi suicide bombers apparently do!! And the rest probably don't quite believe in heaven, lol!!!
Theres another layer to this story as well. MLKs work addressing growing unemployment was a real concern and it was a big issue in the country as a whole at the time as well. Thats why JFK came up with what would eventually became the Revenue Act of 1964. Kennedy actually proposed MASSIVE tax cuts, both for individuals and for corporations, for the purpose of increasing income, encouraging investment, and reducing the unemployment problem in the country. He was assassinated before he could put this into action, but Lyndon Johnson did, with support from both democrats and republicans, and it worked well by reducing unemployment
“Worked well” 😂
☮️
Martin Luther King Jr was a Saint!!! 🙌
Not that it's at all important or relevant to the great points made here, but I fucking love her jacket.
Love ur pfp comrade
A bulleye by chomsky.
I remember him taking about how he couldn't listen to MLK speak because he's too flowery and positive instead of painfully realistic. I'm guessing he may have preferred Malcolm X.
He was on fire on this wan. Christal clear.
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❤️🇵🇹❤️Would be very very reasonable to also have a Native American National Heritage Day (after all, the land belongs to them first and foremost, before us, black or white)❣️White-washing this important day with Anglo tradition filled with feasts and arrogance, under the veil of thanks-giving, frankly is a mockery, and just adds salt to centuries-old wound.
lol what?
Marvel movies changes behaviour for the wrong
Kompromis
The problem with using MLK as an example is that he was a preacher standing in for the so-called savior that would one day arrive. MLK taking on civil rights and racism is fine and worthy but the fact that he embraced Christianity is a disgrace precisely because he bought the malarky about a savior and he acted like one. And in the end he taught black people to embrace a modern form of slavery with the pretense that they, the black people, would have some control over their condition. In the end, he taught the oppressed to believe they were being liberated from oppression when in fact the purpose of Christianity is to oppress people for the benefit of those already in charge. I find is truly bizarre that anyone of African descent embraces Christianity - the primary tool of imperialism, genocide and enslavement used to justify the capture and transport of blacks from Africa to America in the first place.
Don't confuse the state religion with the religion practised by real people.
@@tazzioboca What's your point? All religions for thousands of years were state religions forced on people against their will. Christianity is immoral and therefore so too are the teachings of MLK when he forces civil rights or civil liberties to be packaged with his disgraceful delusions of Christianity which, ironically, was used as motivation to enslave Africans in the first place. No religion, whether state or otherwise, has any place in modern life.
Of course, the avg person won't understand this. He's using too many big words. Lol
Yes Noam, and then you crap on the people that try to start that movement and tell them to shut up and get in line, unapologetically
The worst part is you're definitely smart enough to know, so it's clear you do it on purpose
But you need a leader to bind the movement. Otherwise it would be uncoordinated, incoherent and disorganized like the BLM and Occupy movements have been.
True. The problem with BLM is that there really isn't any standards to be a member of the group... other than be black. As such, when idiots do violence in their name, the media won't report it when most BLM 'leaders' call them out on it and denounce them. A singular voice to go to for the movement would be beneficial to the cause.
I'd say you don't necessarily need one leader, but you do at least need a clear set of core principles to organise around.
I've been saying this for years. When I think of those movements, as an average relatively informed person, no specific face comes to mind. Usually that one face represents the values of said movement.
That is absolutely and demonstrably wrong. organization does not mean centralization. You do NOT need leaders to organize at all.
@@kx7500 lol
Jesus is coming, look busy.
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم
I'm hoping Jesus will save us because I cant see any movement breaking this evil tyranny
Thanks to Martin Luther King, for Powerful Cionistslobby in USA!!!
Noam Chomsky, he is a Man with two faces!!!
john tenthirty - Please elaborate.
sounds pretty useful
Beg to differ Norm about your comment about a Saviour: He did come, about 2000 years ago.
lol Troll
2,300; his name was Ptolemy Soter.
Who the fuck is Norm?
“Martin Luther King was responsible for some of the most egregious atrocities of the twentieth century” - Noam Chomsky
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You missed it. He will come and you are wrong. His name is Jesus Christ.
lol
nice meme
Where the f did jesus come here from??
Noam Chomsky, he is an Hypocrite!!!