@@SlideWyrm I’ll update the builds starting next week, my prediction is yes cele on scourge will still be bis. But some changes will be made to some traits, relic and maybe weapons etc etc.
@@SlideWyrm apothecary is decent into unorganised groups that lack cleanse, but I feel cele will still be best in slot. Full minstrel you lack damage, and pure power just doesn’t pop off either.
@@SlideWyrm yeah but cele has still so much value on the scourge kit, still has everything you need. Boon duration on runes and food etc is not nerfed so I think yes you will lose some bd and most definitely duration of condi but you can cleanse condi so easy the duration is not that important. We shall see after the patch how things feel.
All those ppl don't understand how strong hybrid condi meta rly is. The builds not only do everything (DPS, strip, boons, heal, cleanse), but they also limit the opponents potential to dps by applying weakness, chill, slow and cripple. The general DPS output is also higher. With 4 Condi hybrids (or 3+holo) and a heal-cleanser, you do more damage than the 1-2 power players per party in the previous meta. Our server swapped to Condi (pretty much) fully and it's nearly impossible to lose vs a power composition. The only power build you can still run is holo, cause it's beyond broken.
be sure people perfectly understood the full power of aoe condi spam, there was enough time for this, how many years have developers not even trying to nerf this one-button gameplay.
@@perishVS tested it the past two days and while it’s certainly not bad, celestial just feels nicer. But that’s just an opinion, I don’t run arc dps so I do not have objective data. :(
Both of the clips you posted don't do you justice if you say this build does damage, those condi dmg ticks are very low vs those groups with high cleanse in the current game, as dps when you are supported why not greiv or vipers and the strength of scourge is boon strips you lose alot not having nul sigil or absorb on weapons.
Yeah 2k dps is not a lot of dmg but it’s more dmg than the usual support scourge build. The meta is condi, tickle dmg but lots of tickles, main source of dmg is burn from fb and power dmg from holosmith. This is a hybrid build. What guild are you in? Did you try viper or grieving ? And vS who? I think it would be too squishy. As for strips, you already have enough in a decent comp squad. But if you feel the strips are too low you can add sigils.
@@perishVS Thank you for the reply i dont run conditions it was pure curiosity, for zerg im nearly straight berserker / bit of marauders and my builds primarily focused on strip the dmg is secondary the reaper/zerker/ holo etc are always going to out dps for sure, and im running axe focus GS with nul and absorb on both with scholar. we mostly do open field zerg fights small 10 man guild no GVG so i cant speak from exp on that side but open field wvw full minstrel or berserker i think the target cap always wins haha just from a damage point and generating downs and rallies, again thanks for taking the time.
@@abraxaz940 if you can still pull off playing power necro then ggz. Let me know if you ever run into a condi group and how it played out. By the time the community realise how strong condi is, it will probably get nerfed. Here on EU we are starting to see more players use it, but it’s still power majority.
Doing gods work for the plebs
i just want more competitive fights, i dont mind this change in meta tbh i just dont want to 1 push enemy and them log off. (unless they deserve it)
After nerf celestial is this build still good?
@@SlideWyrm I’ll update the builds starting next week, my prediction is yes cele on scourge will still be bis. But some changes will be made to some traits, relic and maybe weapons etc etc.
Any idea for stat Plague docter, Trailblazer or dire?@@perishVS
@@SlideWyrm apothecary is decent into unorganised groups that lack cleanse, but I feel cele will still be best in slot. Full minstrel you lack damage, and pure power just doesn’t pop off either.
@@perishVS but we will also lost all expertise and con haha dilemma now
@@SlideWyrm yeah but cele has still so much value on the scourge kit, still has everything you need. Boon duration on runes and food etc is not nerfed so I think yes you will lose some bd and most definitely duration of condi but you can cleanse condi so easy the duration is not that important. We shall see after the patch how things feel.
All those ppl don't understand how strong hybrid condi meta rly is.
The builds not only do everything (DPS, strip, boons, heal, cleanse), but they also limit the opponents potential to dps by applying weakness, chill, slow and cripple.
The general DPS output is also higher. With 4 Condi hybrids (or 3+holo) and a heal-cleanser, you do more damage than the 1-2 power players per party in the previous meta.
Our server swapped to Condi (pretty much) fully and it's nearly impossible to lose vs a power composition.
The only power build you can still run is holo, cause it's beyond broken.
FACTS
be sure people perfectly understood the full power of aoe condi spam, there was enough time for this, how many years have developers not even trying to nerf this one-button gameplay.
Trailblazer worth it maybe?
Yeah trail might be nice too but I feel cele is better. Too much cleanse for pure condi to be effective.
@@perishVS tested it the past two days and while it’s certainly not bad, celestial just feels nicer. But that’s just an opinion, I don’t run arc dps so I do not have objective data. :(
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There is no condi-meta ( waving my hand like a Jedi) this is not the meta you are looking for.
ahah surely
Jeff approved, but barely.
Build pls
Build is on the discord. :-)
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Both of the clips you posted don't do you justice if you say this build does damage, those condi dmg ticks are very low vs those groups with high cleanse in the current game, as dps when you are supported why not greiv or vipers and the strength of scourge is boon strips you lose alot not having nul sigil or absorb on weapons.
Yeah 2k dps is not a lot of dmg but it’s more dmg than the usual support scourge build. The meta is condi, tickle dmg but lots of tickles, main source of dmg is burn from fb and power dmg from holosmith. This is a hybrid build. What guild are you in? Did you try viper or grieving ? And vS who? I think it would be too squishy. As for strips, you already have enough in a decent comp squad. But if you feel the strips are too low you can add sigils.
@@perishVS Thank you for the reply i dont run conditions it was pure curiosity, for zerg im nearly straight berserker / bit of marauders and my builds primarily focused on strip the dmg is secondary the reaper/zerker/ holo etc are always going to out dps for sure, and im running axe focus GS with nul and absorb on both with scholar. we mostly do open field zerg fights small 10 man guild no GVG so i cant speak from exp on that side but open field wvw full minstrel or berserker i think the target cap always wins haha just from a damage point and generating downs and rallies, again thanks for taking the time.
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@@abraxaz940 if you can still pull off playing power necro then ggz. Let me know if you ever run into a condi group and how it played out. By the time the community realise how strong condi is, it will probably get nerfed. Here on EU we are starting to see more players use it, but it’s still power majority.
@@perishVS I wonder why condi meta ? maybe on our backward and low-skill rof kick celestial fb and condi scorges and ask only pow dps....