Imagine how many people are going to get into the synth/music making game because Roland made a budget friendly, portable, unintimidating synth and drum machine. People can hate it all they want, but there's a market and a purpose for these. The AIRA Compact line is gonna sell very well.
People don't get into something and stick with it because a corporation makes it cheap. Time is money. It's why an instrumentalist will gladly pay 10x for a custom instrument that is only 1-10% better than a mass-produced one - because of all the time they will spend with it(!!!)
@@shaft9000 You're an absolute genius. Yes the majority of beginners start out buying a thousand+ dollar synth. Your family must be proud of how smart you are.. 🤣🤣
You missed the entire point of that machine. The sound engine is secondary to the chord progression and arpeggio possibilities. Combine that with the fact that you can drive software synths with it, you are really getting a songwriting tool that happens to have some Juno sounds onboard.
@@MeeperDude45 Im sure it sounds great (I havent gotten mine yet due to backorder). The criticism is that you cant control it at the granular level. Understandable, but if you need that level of sound design, just drive another polysynth with it. :-)
100% agree. The reviewer seems like a nice fella, but entirely missed the fact that this is a compositional tool 1st (think Conductive Labs NDLR), with a pithy but half-useful synth 2nd. The power of the synth engine is clearly not the selling point. The ‘power’ is in the compositional tools (chord sequencer & quirky arps) that make it unique and a must-have for some. Yeah, poor review. Entirely missed the point of it.
I got a j6 today to go with my reface cp and yc. The eventual goal for the refaces was to have a left hand comping instrument to go with my trumpet which is my instrument of most proficiency. For that reason, a chord/arp synth is the perfect left hand only ambient box. The simplicity and sound are why I bought it. Not everything has to be on hard mode all the time.
True. I just bought the drum machine and sequencer. They work well and I'm able to get practical use out of it. I wish they were sturdier though. A thicker plastic would easy my mind a bit.
The thing about the J6 is that not a single reviewer uses it as a sound module, way too engrossed in its arpeggiator. As a stand -alone arpeggiator, it fills a needed hole in the market. Even my NDLR doesn’t quite fill it. The acb is just a very nice addition. But I’d want one even without the acb.
Already pre ordered along with new volca fm 2. They should play nice together. Really like the flow Super simple to make harmonies/progressions on the fly. . Really can't wait to use it to control other gear. Especially for my compact dawless setup.
Appreciate your comment. My Squarp Pyramid already handles sequencing and arpeggiating for me. I just want to know if the J6 can be used as a 4 octave velocity sensitive Juno tone generator. But as you pointed out every reviewer focuses on the arp and the chord sequencer.
I am a big synthwave/vaporwave/retrowave enjoyer and I recently bought a PO-33. Cant wait to sync it and just start jammin anywhere :D I dont really care about professionals hating it bcs I am not a professional. I just play for fun and this instrument looks like its easy to play and sound nice = fun for me :D
Watch how the "professionals" who are hating change their tune when an actual professional writes a hit or a great record with it ot they see it on a stage or studio of actual pro. I've seen it with the SP samplers. Those things were considered a joke before Madlib, MF Doom, and Dilla made them legit.
I'm looking forward to receiving a J-6 and the T-8 I ordered at the same time. They shipped yesterday. I already have the E-4 vocal thingy. I have no experience with these types of instruments, and I only have limited experience with a CBG (Cigar Box Guitar) that I started playing about a year ago. But I love to improvise and jam to my own grooves and create music (I think it qualifies as that...lol) that I enjoy listening too. I can't wait to experiment and create ambient, trance like grooves with all three of the Roland instruments while mixing in the CBG. Not that I know how to do that, but I can't wait to improvise and see what happens...I love music and computer technology and these products should be a perfect fit for my creative interests. At least I hope....
Hi David. :) Now that some time has passed, how do you like the J-6? I play guitar and don't have experience with these types of instruments either. Your insight would be helpful to me. I'm not sure I want this or an omnichord. Thanks. - Jude
@@JackANDJude So far I haven't spent a lot of time with it, but it is fun to mess around with. So much so that I just bought the new S1, which is also fun to mess with. I hope to start spending more time with all of them and seeing what they will really do.
I love the J-6. It's small, but it has a comfortable layout that doesn't just cram all the controls together. Most of the buttons are pretty big. It does a lot, but it keeps it simple. It has a 64-step sequencer, 100 presets with FX, 100 chord sets, and 108 arpeggio styles, but the interface is much cleaner than the T-8. I like the J-6 for the same reasons I like the TB-3. It's super easy to make a lot of different sounds with it, and the sound is as good as the sound from much more expensive gear. The T-8 is cool because it does a lot, but it's like a Volca gone bad. It's just a ton of knobs crammed together. It's a pretty limited drum machine and it's not a good interface for a 303 clone.
Very interested to know how much more functionality I would get from a JU-06A versus the J6. Seems like they both have the same sound presets, arpeggiator, and sequencer, so I'm assuming it's the sound sculpting of the JU-06A that would be the main difference? I am seeing some comments here about the J6 driving software synths, and I'm not sure whether the JU-06A has this type of functionality (also JU-06A not a major price increase over the J6). As a comparison, I have seen reviews stating that the S1 is actually an improvement over the SH-01A, so the S1 would make sense here unless you wanted to go the MC707/SH4D (I'm not a fan of ZenCore sound quality) or possibly even the System 8 ($$). From what I've read, it looks like the TR8S provides a pretty sizable advantage over the T8 (although at a much steeper price). I'm thinking that the S1 and E4 with the TR8S would make a good combo. Just not sure if it would be the JU-06A or the J6 for those Juno sounds. Also, thinking of adding in either an MPC One or SP404Mk2 for sampling capability to round out the synth stack.
My verdict: Toy. I can't imagine what I would ever use it for. On the other hand, I plan on buying an S-1 for my portable kit. Thank you for the video. It helped me to discover that out of Roland's new micro-series, this one doesn't cut it.
If you take a look at the manual and how deep the menu goes, there are endless creative possibilities. It gives you great starting points. And you can change the key and so much more. This review was not to great at showcasing it's true potential.
Hello, A question for the experts. *How do I connect devices with built-in sounds Directly to a control keyboard that has no sounds? *Which cables do I need? And what is the friend why? - I have: launchkey 25 mk Novation control keyboard and want to connect it for example: to CIRCUIT TRACKS. Or - for the Roland device / Roland Aira S-1 and use their sounds. Many thanks to the helpers
im thinking of getting one. i have a tr-6s and microfreak that can run off usb. this would be a neat little buddy. analog is meh lol this will be great for midi covers too.
great demo, only one issue with this synth there is no way to use automation to change even the limited params of the synth so come on Roland, in 2022 every hardware or software synth has midi cc to control the synth parameters, give us a firmware update that allows us to do the above.
@@Gainn More built in sounds, lists of common chord progressions, pattern generators, chaining of patterns, song modes, polyrhythms, midi effects. I could go on and on.
Thank you. It has some fantastic sounds. The toy and instrument assessment makes sense. I wish it could sequence chord progressions that sound simply like a grand piano. It doesn't seem this capability exists anywhere in something portable.
You can connect it to another sound module (synth, electric piano etc) and use it to trigger the chords with the sounds from those other devices! There are videos on UA-cam showing you how 😊
The first preset pattern will be responsible for selling so many boxes. I really like it, though surprised about the lack of useable sounds, out of all the sounds there are only 5 or so I like.
I must admit when I saw them I thought ummmm can't see the point but then they probably know their market. The trouble is now we have all these little small devices everywhere. I am often left wondering like many 'why not just use a vst' since they sit in front of your computer most of the time. I will reserve judgement. I like the little keys.
I feel like the whole growing demographic of groovebox users and DAWless jammers is exactly that they DON'T want to use their computer all day. They DONT want to mess with synths and drums with a mouse. They want to have fun with hardware. Things like these Rolands, elektron, novation, polyend, teenage engineering etc are a thriving market these days.
@@sjpachica3 I agree with you there......the trouble is I've got all these little boxes and its' quite unweidly. I end up going back to the computer half the time. Maybe that's just me.....
I hate all this is it a toy or professional instrument, same as are things professional or entry level. All instruments and equipment have there place. In an orchestra are we to say that the person who uses a cymbal or triangle or a cow bell just playing with toys. No all have there place in that piece of music. Also music is a way to express ones self what ever they use.
Great review! I have a question: can you set different durations to different steps? Like: step 1 has 4 beats, step 2 has 2 beats, step 3 has 8 beats, etc..?
The sound is a thing, but more important it is the perfect ,morphing midi chord pack. Of cause nothing to do with who know how to play chord on keyboard.
“I also have come to appreciate the small form factor of the boutiques, the volcas …” Tell us you’ve been gettin down with ‘the butt stuff’, without telling us …
Roland AIRA Compact T-8 J-6 Beat Machine Is it possible to record directly to the computer? And what should be connected and how? Do I need to connect to a sound card first? And the sound card for the computer? Thank you.
Everytime i see your review small synths you seem to have a hate for them especially Roland boutiques. I think these kill those horrible sounding volcas in fact I took mine back as it sounded crap. Well done Roland...
I am really disappointed with mine the touch pads are stiff impossible to do smooth piano rolls Pretty much useless Sounds great but sticky pads are hard to deal with not smooth but janky
@@scottfrost317 While I'm not quite sure the AIRA line will reach that, I do agree that his rush to call things "toys" is idiotic. I'm old enough to remember the Elektron Sidstation. 600 dollars or so and most people thought it was stupid - a Commodore 64 SID chip in a synth without much, if any, sound control. Almost the DEFINITION of a toy. Years later, Trent Reznor is using one, Crystal Castles, The Prodigy, etc. Bam. Start selling used for 2000... Reminds me how people never really paid much attention of Polyend until Richard D. James started singing their praises. Once someone famous says something about these, they will be considered "for serious musicians."
This puppet man held this thing for 5 minutes and said "...auhmm..." b4 demoing basics. Can we get some opinions on this channel from someone that wasn't pulled out of a dusty box with old toys and exclusively explores boring church sounds? Let's get this guy behind the camera to support someone more modern with... life.
Dam I can record a chord progression with arpeggiator on a PSS A50 for half the price, I get speakers, rhythm, multimbral engine so I can play a lead or a bass over that. And I get decent keys.
There is not even a single oscillator control - no waveform, pitch, PWM nor sub-osc ...so yeah it's more of a fart-around thing. And "serious music" is...... a pathetic idea lol.
OK this video wasn’t helpful at all all these dudes. Keep on talking about these instruments being toys like they can only sketch out a thing like the limitations of toys is what makes people an artist right like and then like do you really need to take a mouse to a soundwave and stretch it all all around to call yourself an artist or can’t you just speak with the arrangement of chords like pick some thing that speaks right that can’t be the art no, you got a twist everything and if it doesn’t twist enough then it’s really not an instrument you guys are blessed with all the toys you have all of them like every instrument I ever seen was a toy I’m a bass player just trying to get into this stuff so that way I can get some cord, sequenced and map out, beats and compose stuff and not be like a beat maker, but to make songs right because musicians are all sitting in the rooms now acting like David Byrne instead of just writing songs, they’re all twisting sound waves with a mouse, calling themselves artist, and it’s really cheesy
Imagine how many people are going to get into the synth/music making game because Roland made a budget friendly, portable, unintimidating synth and drum machine. People can hate it all they want, but there's a market and a purpose for these. The AIRA Compact line is gonna sell very well.
Just wait for the Behringer mini synths. Some will sell at 99 bucks.
Im anticipating this lil beast chord monster . Not a toy at all when used in tandum with all my poly synths .
People don't get into something and stick with it because a corporation makes it cheap.
Time is money. It's why an instrumentalist will gladly pay 10x for a custom instrument that is only 1-10% better than a mass-produced one - because of all the time they will spend with it(!!!)
@@shaft9000 that's some serious BS that needs evidence
@@shaft9000 You're an absolute genius. Yes the majority of beginners start out buying a thousand+ dollar synth. Your family must be proud of how smart you are.. 🤣🤣
You missed the entire point of that machine. The sound engine is secondary to the chord progression and arpeggio possibilities. Combine that with the fact that you can drive software synths with it, you are really getting a songwriting tool that happens to have some Juno sounds onboard.
Exactly. I'm driving my Virus & Hydrasynth with it. Freaking amazing!
the sound engine isn't that bad. it sounds great.
Right on!
@@MeeperDude45 Im sure it sounds great (I havent gotten mine yet due to backorder). The criticism is that you cant control it at the granular level. Understandable, but if you need that level of sound design, just drive another polysynth with it. :-)
100% agree. The reviewer seems like a nice fella, but entirely missed the fact that this is a compositional tool 1st (think Conductive Labs NDLR), with a pithy but half-useful synth 2nd. The power of the synth engine is clearly not the selling point. The ‘power’ is in the compositional tools (chord sequencer & quirky arps) that make it unique and a must-have for some. Yeah, poor review. Entirely missed the point of it.
I got a j6 today to go with my reface cp and yc. The eventual goal for the refaces was to have a left hand comping instrument to go with my trumpet which is my instrument of most proficiency. For that reason, a chord/arp synth is the perfect left hand only ambient box. The simplicity and sound are why I bought it. Not everything has to be on hard mode all the time.
Just because everything is getting smaller these days doesn't mean it's all toys. Welcome to the modern world.
True. I just bought the drum machine and sequencer. They work well and I'm able to get practical use out of it. I wish they were sturdier though. A thicker plastic would easy my mind a bit.
That's what makes it feel like a toy.
The thing about the J6 is that not a single reviewer uses it as a sound module, way too engrossed in its arpeggiator. As a stand -alone arpeggiator, it fills a needed hole in the market. Even my NDLR doesn’t quite fill it. The acb is just a very nice addition. But I’d want one even without the acb.
Already pre ordered along with new volca fm 2. They should play nice together. Really like the flow Super simple to make harmonies/progressions on the fly. . Really can't wait to use it to control other gear. Especially for my compact dawless setup.
Appreciate your comment. My Squarp Pyramid already handles sequencing and arpeggiating for me. I just want to know if the J6 can be used as a 4 octave velocity sensitive Juno tone generator. But as you pointed out every reviewer focuses on the arp and the chord sequencer.
I’m very late to the party, but I’m stoked to have just ordered my J-6
I am a big synthwave/vaporwave/retrowave enjoyer and I recently bought a PO-33. Cant wait to sync it and just start jammin anywhere :D I dont really care about professionals hating it bcs I am not a professional. I just play for fun and this instrument looks like its easy to play and sound nice = fun for me :D
100 % this :) :)
Watch how the "professionals" who are hating change their tune when an actual professional writes a hit or a great record with it ot they see it on a stage or studio of actual pro. I've seen it with the SP samplers. Those things were considered a joke before Madlib, MF Doom, and Dilla made them legit.
The FB01 !! Still one of my much-loved studio tools.
I'm looking forward to receiving a J-6 and the T-8 I ordered at the same time. They shipped yesterday. I already have the E-4 vocal thingy. I have no experience with these types of instruments, and I only have limited experience with a CBG (Cigar Box Guitar) that I started playing about a year ago. But I love to improvise and jam to my own grooves and create music (I think it qualifies as that...lol) that I enjoy listening too. I can't wait to experiment and create ambient, trance like grooves with all three of the Roland instruments while mixing in the CBG. Not that I know how to do that, but I can't wait to improvise and see what happens...I love music and computer technology and these products should be a perfect fit for my creative interests. At least I hope....
Hi David. :) Now that some time has passed, how do you like the J-6? I play guitar and don't have experience with these types of instruments either. Your insight would be helpful to me. I'm not sure I want this or an omnichord.
Thanks. - Jude
@@JackANDJude So far I haven't spent a lot of time with it, but it is fun to mess around with. So much so that I just bought the new S1, which is also fun to mess with. I hope to start spending more time with all of them and seeing what they will really do.
@@davidboudreau4054 Thanks for your reply. I was torn between the J-6 and an Omnichord. I purchased a Q-chord.
I love the J-6. It's small, but it has a comfortable layout that doesn't just cram all the controls together. Most of the buttons are pretty big. It does a lot, but it keeps it simple. It has a 64-step sequencer, 100 presets with FX, 100 chord sets, and 108 arpeggio styles, but the interface is much cleaner than the T-8. I like the J-6 for the same reasons I like the TB-3. It's super easy to make a lot of different sounds with it, and the sound is as good as the sound from much more expensive gear.
The T-8 is cool because it does a lot, but it's like a Volca gone bad. It's just a ton of knobs crammed together. It's a pretty limited drum machine and it's not a good interface for a 303 clone.
does it just have as many banks / factory presets as the Roland Boutique Juno 06a ? I'm thinking of purchasing one to save on space. Thanks
Plus 64 perest sounds. 8 banks x 8 sounds each. Wild machine. Endless possibilities
I'm digging these new compacts! and luving that Juno bass...lets go fishing.
You can fully edit a fb01 btw its not just a preset box :)
Thank you for your demo that absolutely convinced me I have no need for this whatsoever.
does it have all the juno 60 presets?
Very interested to know how much more functionality I would get from a JU-06A versus the J6. Seems like they both have the same sound presets, arpeggiator, and sequencer, so I'm assuming it's the sound sculpting of the JU-06A that would be the main difference? I am seeing some comments here about the J6 driving software synths, and I'm not sure whether the JU-06A has this type of functionality (also JU-06A not a major price increase over the J6). As a comparison, I have seen reviews stating that the S1 is actually an improvement over the SH-01A, so the S1 would make sense here unless you wanted to go the MC707/SH4D (I'm not a fan of ZenCore sound quality) or possibly even the System 8 ($$). From what I've read, it looks like the TR8S provides a pretty sizable advantage over the T8 (although at a much steeper price). I'm thinking that the S1 and E4 with the TR8S would make a good combo. Just not sure if it would be the JU-06A or the J6 for those Juno sounds. Also, thinking of adding in either an MPC One or SP404Mk2 for sampling capability to round out the synth stack.
Can it control other gear or plugins?
I just ordered this....from you!
My verdict: Toy. I can't imagine what I would ever use it for. On the other hand, I plan on buying an S-1 for my portable kit. Thank you for the video. It helped me to discover that out of Roland's new micro-series, this one doesn't cut it.
If you take a look at the manual and how deep the menu goes, there are endless creative possibilities. It gives you great starting points. And you can change the key and so much more. This review was not to great at showcasing it's true potential.
@@theantianti7 I have the manual and it is deep. One could spend months reading the manual and never playing a single note.
may have some problems w/ usb and audio?
How cam I use it with my Tascam Portastudio ?
Hi Zach, what is the name of the ultra budget Roland 106 that you are mentioning? Was it analog or digital?
Em101 - analog - we did a video not too long ago on it
Thanks. Good review. Very helpful.
Hello,
A question for the experts.
*How do I connect devices with built-in sounds
Directly to a control keyboard that has no sounds?
*Which cables do I need? And what is the friend why?
- I have: launchkey 25 mk Novation control keyboard
and want to connect it for example:
to CIRCUIT TRACKS.
Or - for the Roland device / Roland Aira S-1
and use their sounds.
Many thanks to the helpers
im thinking of getting one. i have a tr-6s and microfreak that can run off usb. this would be a neat little buddy. analog is meh lol this will be great for midi covers too.
Nice review man! I'm subscribing. Volca Keys or this? That's my question. Thank you.
Gonna have to get me one of these, only thing I have with polyphony is my MC-303 😅
great demo, only one issue with this synth
there is no way to use automation to change even the limited params of the synth
so come on Roland, in 2022 every hardware or software synth has midi cc to control the synth parameters, give us a firmware update that allows us to do the above.
mine wouldnt play more than one pattern, it's a toy unless my replacement turns out functional.
I would think many would like this concept expanded into a more elaborate module.
The other way would also be great.. Just the sequencer with higher polyphony.
@@Gainn More built in sounds, lists of common chord progressions, pattern generators, chaining of patterns, song modes, polyrhythms, midi effects. I could go on and on.
Thank you. It has some fantastic sounds. The toy and instrument assessment makes sense. I wish it could sequence chord progressions that sound simply like a grand piano. It doesn't seem this capability exists anywhere in something portable.
You can connect it to another sound module (synth, electric piano etc) and use it to trigger the chords with the sounds from those other devices! There are videos on UA-cam showing you how 😊
To me those are *deluxe powerful toys*! it is pretty expensive, but it sounds great and it is a lot of fun.
I just ordered one from Sweetwater about 3 hours ago and it has already shipped. (on a Sunday even)
Nice melody mate
The first preset pattern will be responsible for selling so many boxes. I really like it, though surprised about the lack of useable sounds, out of all the sounds there are only 5 or so I like.
Nice. It does nice 8 step patterns.
what's the difference between a musical instrument and a toy?
Does it sync?
Kinda, lol
It's both. And it's also a decent value proposition. Saved u 16 minutes.
Fantastic
When you said both I laughed inside a little, on the toy or real synth question
I must admit when I saw them I thought ummmm can't see the point but then they probably know their market. The trouble is now we have all these little small devices everywhere. I am often left wondering like many 'why not just use a vst' since they sit in front of your computer most of the time. I will reserve judgement. I like the little keys.
I feel like the whole growing demographic of groovebox users and DAWless jammers is exactly that they DON'T want to use their computer all day. They DONT want to mess with synths and drums with a mouse. They want to have fun with hardware. Things like these Rolands, elektron, novation, polyend, teenage engineering etc are a thriving market these days.
@@sjpachica3 I agree with you there......the trouble is I've got all these little boxes and its' quite unweidly. I end up going back to the computer half the time. Maybe that's just me.....
Who Roland? lol
They just released that awful arranger...
I hate all this is it a toy or professional instrument, same as are things professional or entry level. All instruments and equipment have there place. In an orchestra are we to say that the person who uses a cymbal or triangle or a cow bell just playing with toys. No all have there place in that piece of music. Also music is a way to express ones self what ever they use.
Great review! I have a question: can you set different durations to different steps? Like: step 1 has 4 beats, step 2 has 2 beats, step 3 has 8 beats, etc..?
No, sadly you can't
4 voices? Come on Roland you can do 6 as you did in the 80ties ;-)
The sound is a thing, but more important it is the perfect ,morphing midi chord pack. Of cause nothing to do with who know how to play chord on keyboard.
i jumped of the video when you said it was a toy for 1-3y old kids
"ARIA"? Nevertheless, good review.
“I also have come to appreciate the small form factor of the boutiques, the volcas …”
Tell us you’ve been gettin down with ‘the butt stuff’, without telling us …
Honey I shrunk the synths :)
Omnichord 2.0
Roland AIRA Compact T-8 J-6 Beat Machine Is it possible to record directly to the computer? And what should be connected and how? Do I need to connect to a sound card first? And the sound card for the computer? Thank you.
In Japanese "ro" means small.
A sequencer only version of this with higher polyphony and some automation lanes would sell silly amounts.
Everytime i see your review small synths you seem to have a hate for them especially Roland boutiques. I think these kill those horrible sounding volcas in fact I took mine back as it sounded crap. Well done Roland...
I am really disappointed with mine the touch pads are stiff impossible to do smooth piano rolls Pretty much useless Sounds great but sticky pads are hard to deal with not smooth but janky
Roland = toy maker
That’s what was said about the tb303. Ten years from now when all the Juno’s fail and parts become obsolete these will be sought after.
@@scottfrost317 While I'm not quite sure the AIRA line will reach that, I do agree that his rush to call things "toys" is idiotic. I'm old enough to remember the Elektron Sidstation. 600 dollars or so and most people thought it was stupid - a Commodore 64 SID chip in a synth without much, if any, sound control. Almost the DEFINITION of a toy. Years later, Trent Reznor is using one, Crystal Castles, The Prodigy, etc. Bam. Start selling used for 2000... Reminds me how people never really paid much attention of Polyend until Richard D. James started singing their praises. Once someone famous says something about these, they will be considered "for serious musicians."
This puppet man held this thing for 5 minutes and said "...auhmm..." b4 demoing basics. Can we get some opinions on this channel from someone that wasn't pulled out of a dusty box with old toys and exclusively explores boring church sounds? Let's get this guy behind the camera to support someone more modern with... life.
Dude if you wouldn't afraid cose in fact it's both in one japanise Balalaika 😂
expensive ? HOWMUCH IS AN I PHONE ? id rather have a J6
Dam I can record a chord progression with arpeggiator on a PSS A50 for half the price, I get speakers, rhythm, multimbral engine so I can play a lead or a bass over that. And I get decent keys.
I'd say stick with the Korg Volca ecosystem. At $199 this isn't any better than a used Volca FM at less than $100. Great video man!
Volcas sound horrible. These Roland blow them out of the water...
Not a toy if you didg into the menus
Any $200 synth is an expensive toy.
Nonsense!
There is not even a single oscillator control - no waveform, pitch, PWM nor sub-osc
...so yeah it's more of a fart-around thing.
And "serious music" is...... a pathetic idea lol.
OK this video wasn’t helpful at all all these dudes. Keep on talking about these instruments being toys like they can only sketch out a thing like the limitations of toys is what makes people an artist right like and then like do you really need to take a mouse to a soundwave and stretch it all all around to call yourself an artist or can’t you just speak with the arrangement of chords like pick some thing that speaks right that can’t be the art no, you got a twist everything and if it doesn’t twist enough then it’s really not an instrument you guys are blessed with all the toys you have all of them like every instrument I ever seen was a toy I’m a bass player just trying to get into this stuff so that way I can get some cord, sequenced and map out, beats and compose stuff and not be like a beat maker, but to make songs right because musicians are all sitting in the rooms now acting like David Byrne instead of just writing songs, they’re all twisting sound waves with a mouse, calling themselves artist, and it’s really cheesy