also back long ago game has VISIORE BACK banner, youll need to have around 60K vis to be able do all step.. in this banner our vis will be increase. if i remember correctly this banner only appears by 3 or 4 time in game timeline. step-1 summon 100 vis will gave you 110 to 200 vis step-2 summon 1K vis will gave you 1100 to 2000 vis step-3 summon 10K vis will gave you 11K to 20K vis step-4 summon 30K vis will gave you 33K to 60K vil last is very huge, step -5 summon 70K vis will gave you 77K to 140K
oh yeah! I forgot about the Vis up summons. This explains what they spent 300k vis on! you solved it. I recall there was zero chance to get less vis than you spent so this summon makes perfect sense here. Thank you!
Awww thank you, Aqua! This is the nicest compliment I can get. I'm always afraid of pushing fans away by doing content from more than one game but so far it's been ok!
They probably done the offer wall. For those who dont know the offer wall gives you visiore for playing other games. You will notice some of they actually need spending real money into buying in game stuff. However not all of them does sometimes you do get an offer that gives your a lot of resources that only requires doing certain thing and not having to spend a dime. I used to play pixel gun 3d once and i notice a offer that gives you 7000 gems just getting town hall to lv15 of some random game and i did just that. Got my 7000 gems and it is totally legit no hacking whatsoever. They must have done a lot of offers to get to this point where you have 800k visiore
People have been injecting into Gumi games for years - FFBE too. Usually they dont get banned unless Gumi activley looks into their database for this, which knowing their resources of the game, they dont/wont.
Well i bought my main account couple months ago to re start the game back in the last FF13 collab which was when i bought my account, it costed me 9$ with 800K vis too. Now how the game is going right now, i think is just a nice way to keep up with getting most of the units they've been releasing cause ive been getting all of them and just skipping a few. I still have 300K vis saved atm. So overall for a game like this, i'd say buying an account that cheap is just way better to experience the game longterm (till game announces EoS around 2025 lol)
You might be right. I wouldn't want to encourage people to buy accounts but like you said, the pace of new units is ridiculous that there's no way to keep up if you're an average spender. That's crazy that you still have 300k after 2 years, I feel like I'd be at 0 viz after a few months lol!
Blades of Grass wasn't the first collab vc, Ramza's vc came months before and even before that we had 2 vcs from Mobius which was a final fantasy game that died in same year
Ah... so it looks like they don't have any freebees from those events so they must have started this account several months after launch, I guess. Definitely not Day 1.
bought one of these but ended up broke of visior trying to level all the characters all at once lol. defenetly worth it tho for new players since visior is stupid expensive.
Most people I know irl who play wotv use some sort of AI, Bot, or Macro system to do the dailies and only log on for pvp and events. This is likely a macro or ai ran account that was a day 1 reroll account that they kept running via AI or Macro Bot until someone buys it. They ran a few vis back campaigns where you spend up to 70k vis to get vis back which would explain the vis spent. You can have many of them run on one pc on blue stacks or other emulator. I know some one who run a whole guild of 30 accounts with AI and only does the pvp on manual. AI does the rest without them touching anything. Wotv isn't doing well so there isn't a huge demand for accounts and $12 is a decent amount for Asia countries where most of the account sellers are.
Very good insight, Meir. I think you are spot on, especially about why these accounts are only worth $12... probably more due to the game's popularity than anything. Whoa, a whole guild run by one guy and a bunch of bots, how amazing, lol. i feel like he needs to do some content on each of those accounts though or else he wouldn't be able to get gear and stuff. Crazy time investment, but still very interesting.
Gonna pull an “um actually” here. :p The first collab was with FF XIV: Shadowbringers, as it was a day 1 collab. Tactics came 4 weeks later. Blades of grass was about… 6 months later? Just sayin’. XD
Hahaha, i can always count on you. I actually had no idea about FFXIV at all. Crazy. Hmm... I guess it's hard to really nail down how old that account was. are you excited that Tactics is coming back? They did a re-run on this before, correct? Because I see the units can go to level 120... but I don't recall this re-run yet for some reason.
Wonder where the seller is based. $12 in most countries isn't a lot. Mysidia ran a JP account for about two years where he only logged in for the vis. Had about 150k. There are also those visiore back banners where if you spend over certain thresholds you can, with rng, earn it all back, maybe even increase it.
Yeah! I think you hit the nail on the head with those Viz back banners. That also explains why it has "300k spent" milestone. Seems like it's china based seller but I feel like even for China there's zero chance this 4 years of work is worth $12.
@@gamesuspectamy Most sellers come from poor countries around South East Asia. $12 for 4y of bot login looks awful but keep in mind they have hundreds of accounts + multiple games : it becomes like a full time job to maintain a phone farm + could bring enough income to have food on the table. That's how I look at the big picture, although it's quite fucked up.
The fact that that account has over 800k vis, PLUS the 300k that was spend for the milestones… that has to be an illegal account. I hope you don’t get in trouble for buying the account. (Thinking of the fiasco with ReadyPlayerWill and the vis wall issue. I don’t think he main account got banned, but he did have his share of problems come from it)
Someone solved it! They think the seller spent 300k viz on that one banner that gives you back more viz? Do you remember those? That explains why that milestone is tripped and they have so much viz. What happened with ReadyPlayerWill!?!? Tell meeeeee! I was actually thinking of selecting a random comment and doing a giveaway for this account but I feel like I'm sure that will get me in trouble....
@@gamesuspectamy, just looked up the Vis-back campaigns of old and yeah, I suppose it does. They went up to a 70k amount, and I’m sure it’s been held at least three times. There was a glitch where the Visiore wall would give you hundreds of thousands of vis for almost nothing. He had/created an account to check it out and everything and got backlash for it. Don’t remember if it affected him, personally (like if the company took specific action). But I know everyone that exploited it had to basically pay it back with all current and future free/normal vis. He wasn’t doing it for malicious reasons, though.
@@jezixhylus3370 Oh wow, I didn't know about that. Yeah, anything that seems too good to be true I stay away from. I haven't touched that account since I made this video. Was just a curiosity thing. I think my channels small enough that no one would notice haha.
If you're a day one player it's possible to have around 400 - 450k if you play everyday without spending on everything... I know someone that has over 200k Visiore as of today and if he had saved more he would have more but having over 440k and you're not a day one player is very suspicious.
It has to be higher than that. I spent all my vis on ruin sterne and then saved until the ffx collab at the 1st anniversary. In that 6 months I had saved just over 100k free vis. A day 1 player could save well over 450k by this point
@@whizkid5382 yes I said without spending on everything you're talking about not spending at all. I've had 305k Visiore at one point now I barely get over 80k. There's very few day one players left that have over 400k Visiore and even fewer over 500k Visiore that are currently playing the game all those players I suspect have left.... But you're right if you don't spend or spend very little as a day one player you can have well over 440k Visiore possibly close to a million Visiore or more
Definitely very sus! This is exactly why I wanted to look into this. If I was a day 1 player logging in every day, I would charge way more than $12 for my time haha.
268k was the highest i ever saved as free to play. I only pull units i like. I also only pull limited collab VC. I think its only hard to save vis if people want to pull anything. So yeah I think ot sounds about right. Get all the free stuff login dont spend any vis and will be aeound 800k. Someone or some bot hacked my credit card and started using it to buy Amazon membership. They were all like few dollars so they must have just created a bunch of accounts with 1 month sub. But that's like $9? So maybe they will sell the account for $4 or something. Making $5 profit? Who knows why people put so much effort and only get few dollars. I am still confused about this
Saving that much viz on an account you were actively playing is really impressive, Bunny, especially F2P. You have such good restraint, lol. I wanted to do something similar but it didn't last long hehe. Sorry to hear about the hack, but you're right, crazy what people will do for only a few dollars. :(
Hmm... I was actually thinking of giving it away as part of the video but I thought for sure I would get my main account banned or something if I did that. Let me think about this and get back to you, if you're serious about trying the game. I haven't logged into the account since I filmed the content... so it's still rank 2 lol.
lol, I probably shouldn't promote this kind of thing. I feel like you can probably google around and find something. It seems like all of the sites are the same.
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also back long ago game has VISIORE BACK banner, youll need to have around 60K vis to be able do all step.. in this banner our vis will be increase.
if i remember correctly this banner only appears by 3 or 4 time in game timeline.
step-1 summon 100 vis will gave you 110 to 200 vis
step-2 summon 1K vis will gave you 1100 to 2000 vis
step-3 summon 10K vis will gave you 11K to 20K vis
step-4 summon 30K vis will gave you 33K to 60K vil
last is very huge, step -5 summon 70K vis will gave you 77K to 140K
oh yeah! I forgot about the Vis up summons. This explains what they spent 300k vis on! you solved it. I recall there was zero chance to get less vis than you spent so this summon makes perfect sense here. Thank you!
Genuinely interesting content. Take my like.
Yay! Danny's like is worth more than other likes, so I'm pleased haha
heh, i don't play this game just E7 but it was amusing to see it Amy, nice content you did here ;)
Awww thank you, Aqua! This is the nicest compliment I can get. I'm always afraid of pushing fans away by doing content from more than one game but so far it's been ok!
They probably done the offer wall. For those who dont know the offer wall gives you visiore for playing other games. You will notice some of they actually need spending real money into buying in game stuff. However not all of them does sometimes you do get an offer that gives your a lot of resources that only requires doing certain thing and not having to spend a dime. I used to play pixel gun 3d once and i notice a offer that gives you 7000 gems just getting town hall to lv15 of some random game and i did just that. Got my 7000 gems and it is totally legit no hacking whatsoever. They must have done a lot of offers to get to this point where you have 800k visiore
Wow, 7k is a lot for trying out a game. It definitely sounds possible they dabbled in this a bit. Thanks for the comment, B!
People have been injecting into Gumi games for years - FFBE too. Usually they dont get banned unless Gumi activley looks into their database for this, which knowing their resources of the game, they dont/wont.
Whew, sounds like I'm safe then! I'm glad I have a baby channel lol
Doesn't look like it's worth buying anyways. That's how much a headache building characters are.
Hahaha! I laughed so hard at this. It's funny because it's true!
Even if they handed out 800k viz people would still think it's too much of a pain.
Well i bought my main account couple months ago to re start the game back in the last FF13 collab which was when i bought my account, it costed me 9$ with 800K vis too. Now how the game is going right now, i think is just a nice way to keep up with getting most of the units they've been releasing cause ive been getting all of them and just skipping a few. I still have 300K vis saved atm. So overall for a game like this, i'd say buying an account that cheap is just way better to experience the game longterm (till game announces EoS around 2025 lol)
You might be right. I wouldn't want to encourage people to buy accounts but like you said, the pace of new units is ridiculous that there's no way to keep up if you're an average spender. That's crazy that you still have 300k after 2 years, I feel like I'd be at 0 viz after a few months lol!
Blades of Grass wasn't the first collab vc, Ramza's vc came months before and even before that we had 2 vcs from Mobius which was a final fantasy game that died in same year
Ah... so it looks like they don't have any freebees from those events so they must have started this account several months after launch, I guess. Definitely not Day 1.
Wow that account is actually really good for a new account if you want limited characters
Yeah, good point. A new account definitely wont have these. It'll still take forever to build them but worth it if they don't get many re-runs.
bought one of these but ended up broke of visior trying to level all the characters all at once lol. defenetly worth it tho for new players since visior is stupid expensive.
Haha, pretty true. If I had more time I think I could have some fun with this account but alas, now it will die a slow death :)
@@gamesuspectamy hehe ill buy it off you for 15 >:)
@@anarchytype2200 Haha, if you really want to try the game I'll probably just give it to you for free.
Most people I know irl who play wotv use some sort of AI, Bot, or Macro system to do the dailies and only log on for pvp and events. This is likely a macro or ai ran account that was a day 1 reroll account that they kept running via AI or Macro Bot until someone buys it. They ran a few vis back campaigns where you spend up to 70k vis to get vis back which would explain the vis spent. You can have many of them run on one pc on blue stacks or other emulator. I know some one who run a whole guild of 30 accounts with AI and only does the pvp on manual. AI does the rest without them touching anything. Wotv isn't doing well so there isn't a huge demand for accounts and $12 is a decent amount for Asia countries where most of the account sellers are.
Very good insight, Meir. I think you are spot on, especially about why these accounts are only worth $12... probably more due to the game's popularity than anything.
Whoa, a whole guild run by one guy and a bunch of bots, how amazing, lol. i feel like he needs to do some content on each of those accounts though or else he wouldn't be able to get gear and stuff. Crazy time investment, but still very interesting.
Gonna pull an “um actually” here. :p
The first collab was with FF XIV: Shadowbringers, as it was a day 1 collab. Tactics came 4 weeks later. Blades of grass was about… 6 months later?
Just sayin’. XD
Hahaha, i can always count on you.
I actually had no idea about FFXIV at all. Crazy. Hmm... I guess it's hard to really nail down how old that account was.
are you excited that Tactics is coming back? They did a re-run on this before, correct? Because I see the units can go to level 120... but I don't recall this re-run yet for some reason.
Ok, now I want one of these accs. Getting me one
lol! I feel like my video ended up being a promo for buying accounts somehow, haha
Wonder where the seller is based. $12 in most countries isn't a lot.
Mysidia ran a JP account for about two years where he only logged in for the vis. Had about 150k.
There are also those visiore back banners where if you spend over certain thresholds you can, with rng, earn it all back, maybe even increase it.
Yeah! I think you hit the nail on the head with those Viz back banners. That also explains why it has "300k spent" milestone.
Seems like it's china based seller but I feel like even for China there's zero chance this 4 years of work is worth $12.
@@gamesuspectamy Most sellers come from poor countries around South East Asia. $12 for 4y of bot login looks awful but keep in mind they have hundreds of accounts + multiple games : it becomes like a full time job to maintain a phone farm + could bring enough income to have food on the table. That's how I look at the big picture, although it's quite fucked up.
@@davidmesboules6949 This is a great point. In some people's situations it could make sense to put this effort in for $12. Thanks for the comment!
The fact that that account has over 800k vis, PLUS the 300k that was spend for the milestones… that has to be an illegal account. I hope you don’t get in trouble for buying the account. (Thinking of the fiasco with ReadyPlayerWill and the vis wall issue. I don’t think he main account got banned, but he did have his share of problems come from it)
Someone solved it! They think the seller spent 300k viz on that one banner that gives you back more viz? Do you remember those? That explains why that milestone is tripped and they have so much viz.
What happened with ReadyPlayerWill!?!? Tell meeeeee!
I was actually thinking of selecting a random comment and doing a giveaway for this account but I feel like I'm sure that will get me in trouble....
@@gamesuspectamy, just looked up the Vis-back campaigns of old and yeah, I suppose it does. They went up to a 70k amount, and I’m sure it’s been held at least three times.
There was a glitch where the Visiore wall would give you hundreds of thousands of vis for almost nothing. He had/created an account to check it out and everything and got backlash for it. Don’t remember if it affected him, personally (like if the company took specific action). But I know everyone that exploited it had to basically pay it back with all current and future free/normal vis. He wasn’t doing it for malicious reasons, though.
@@jezixhylus3370 Oh wow, I didn't know about that. Yeah, anything that seems too good to be true I stay away from. I haven't touched that account since I made this video. Was just a curiosity thing. I think my channels small enough that no one would notice haha.
Wow Amy Im surprised how you can find these things you really know the web
haha, Whyyyyyyy! That's good sarcasm. I do consider myself a pretty top notch Googler haha
I think you just sold me on buying a new account lol.
Omg! Probably the opposite of what I was going for. lol
Def, worth 12$
Yeah, in an expensive game like this, for sure!
That's sad
I think so too. :(
I'm talking about the "working on something for 5 years for $12" part, is that what you were talking about?
@@gamesuspectamy no the sad part is that there's accounts out there that has no love put into it only 💰💰💰
@@whitemage34 Oh, that's also very sad. Good point. :(
@@gamesuspectamy yep glad u covered there loveless plight
If you're a day one player it's possible to have around 400 - 450k if you play everyday without spending on everything... I know someone that has over 200k Visiore as of today and if he had saved more he would have more but having over 440k and you're not a day one player is very suspicious.
It has to be higher than that. I spent all my vis on ruin sterne and then saved until the ffx collab at the 1st anniversary. In that 6 months I had saved just over 100k free vis. A day 1 player could save well over 450k by this point
@@whizkid5382 yes I said without spending on everything you're talking about not spending at all. I've had 305k Visiore at one point now I barely get over 80k. There's very few day one players left that have over 400k Visiore and even fewer over 500k Visiore that are currently playing the game all those players I suspect have left.... But you're right if you don't spend or spend very little as a day one player you can have well over 440k Visiore possibly close to a million Visiore or more
Definitely very sus! This is exactly why I wanted to look into this. If I was a day 1 player logging in every day, I would charge way more than $12 for my time haha.
@northofmainstreet7281 my mistake. My brain autocorrected that to without spending on anything lol
268k was the highest i ever saved as free to play. I only pull units i like. I also only pull limited collab VC. I think its only hard to save vis if people want to pull anything. So yeah I think ot sounds about right. Get all the free stuff login dont spend any vis and will be aeound 800k. Someone or some bot hacked my credit card and started using it to buy Amazon membership. They were all like few dollars so they must have just created a bunch of accounts with 1 month sub. But that's like $9? So maybe they will sell the account for $4 or something. Making $5 profit? Who knows why people put so much effort and only get few dollars. I am still confused about this
Saving that much viz on an account you were actively playing is really impressive, Bunny, especially F2P. You have such good restraint, lol. I wanted to do something similar but it didn't last long hehe.
Sorry to hear about the hack, but you're right, crazy what people will do for only a few dollars. :(
If you're not going to use it then you might as well let me have it.😅 it's not good to waste money
Hmm... I was actually thinking of giving it away as part of the video but I thought for sure I would get my main account banned or something if I did that. Let me think about this and get back to you, if you're serious about trying the game. I haven't logged into the account since I filmed the content... so it's still rank 2 lol.
What site did you buy that account from ? 😂
lol, I probably shouldn't promote this kind of thing. I feel like you can probably google around and find something. It seems like all of the sites are the same.
where can i .. not buy this kinda account?
lololol! This sounds fishy! :P
1649 login )
What?! How's that possible? Do you have a JP account?
You could sell your account for $13! :P
@@gamesuspectamy I accidentally came across the game and away I went. if anything your friend Liore