@@paulanthony5274 in the books its said that peter actually got a wife and kids and decided to follow a good life, and alex actually wants to follow his steps
I just noticed, because of the treatment Alex gets sick when he feels violent urges and he was coughing and gagging while they had him. He wanted to kill them so bad
He probably does kill them after he starts working with the government or the government probably killed them at the end of the film its implied that they were murdered when they tell him all of his enemies were taken care of and anyone who would try to harm him are screaming in a cage
Imo that's opposite. He felt sick for knowing what these two can theoretically do to him, imagining what might happen in these woods, he felt sick and scarred. Listen to his voice, this doesn't sound like an angry man at all. To prove myself i'd also point, that the entire "background" anger (after cure) that Alex had in his thoughts in the book, was mentioned in the movie only once, at parents house. Besides that, he acts like really cured in his mind as well.
Proves that the line between the cops and the gangs in the world of A Clockwork Orange is rather thin and blurred. Even the doctors who "treat" Alex are a bit sadistic when they realize he is suffering during Ludovico's treatment
You guys are onto something. In my opinion Alex is the personification of evil while his droogs are still evil just lesser. Notice how Dim's badge number is 665 and Georgie's is 667 with Alex in the middle this entire scene.
this movie is a great example of violence coming full circle. Alex's gang attacks a homeless man, he gets attacked by a homeless gang. Alex attacks his droogs, his droogs attack him
@@realcritical-kr2dd His whole "rehabilitation" was centered around a drug that made him feel ill while watching violent films. The result is him feeling sick and helpless whenever exposed to violence in any form. He's being manhandled and also wants to fight back, thus triggering the response of feeling ill.
There is a relatively unknown band that lives and breathes a clockwork orange Ive seen them live a few times but they don't allow filming or phones into the show they wear the same outfit as the droogs in a clockwork orange the only difference is their version is all black jockstrap and everything, the few times Ive seen them live it gets cut short due to violence. The name of the band is the thirst they have quite a few songs on UA-cam and seem to put out new songs quite frequently
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ACO is very prophetic. An increasingly right wing neo f*sc*st government needs to repress intellectuals and critics with a uniformed force of the worst kind of thugs, jokingly called a "police force". Anthony Burgess wrote the novel about such a dystopia future. He was attacked by a gang in real life, and he was angry at the police not coming to his aid. But later he thought about such uniformed thugs being useful to the state, especially in the light of the German experience of the eps and 40s. A Clockwork Orange 🍊 was born.
I love how a couple violent thugs ended up becoming cops which reflects real life where a lot of psychopathic, bullies from high school end up in law enforcement. This movie is deep and one of my all time favorites.
and the smarter sociopaths/psychopaths/whatever become well-to-do on wall street or in Congress, wearing a suit, and some end up getting fucked anyway or rather even when one accepts and integrates into society one still gets screwed
Fred Smith Whatever you're trying to counter it won't work. At the end of the day the juicers get the respect, the attention, and the girls. End of story!
It's usually the BULLIED from high school who become cops. They have a chip on their shoulder and think they're big men with a gun and a monopoly on violence. The bullies from school grow up and move on and get real jobs.
Some info. Malcolm did NOT nearly drown in this scene. He never mentioned it in the commentary on the DVD, and he even talks about having a breathing tube while he's under the water. The water was muddied with beef extract to hide the oxygen tank and tube. But he did say it was freezing cold that day. Plus in one of the documentaries on the film, they say there was never any record of equipment failure as they did several takes of the scene. He did have his cornea scratched and ribs broken, though.
I remember watching this mini-series on Masterpiece Theatre about the life of Winston Churchill's mother. The actor who played a young Churchill looked very familiar but I couldn't place him. I looked up his name in the IMDB and it was Warren Clarke who played Dim. How about that for acting range? From a moronic hooligan to young Winston Churchill.
Something chilling...the location away from the streets, watching them walk him from behind, overcast weather, the sound effects...just perfect...one of my favorite scenes in the movie
Note that while they were carrying him like executioners, at some point the Dies Irae melody plays 1:22 A piece sung in funerals (not the Mozart version).
On some level, Alex is getting his just deserts. But any joy one can take from Alex's suffering is weakened by the fact that A) it is being done by his former goons B) the former goons are now police who probably use their power to abuse others and C) Alex has no ability to fight back.
@elijahbaker781 Alex in this version definitely went after these two and probably tortures them now since he's on government payroll I could see Alex working as a torturer or military executioner
The trippy sound as they are battering Alex was supposed to be like a comedic effect but I think it makes it more horrific, it sounds nightmarish...not lighthearted!?
they held that actor under the water for a good minute too not sure if kubrick would have had some form of air in the tub for him otherwise its pretty brutal for a movie of its age
From what I’ve read, there was a breathing apparatus but supposedly it wasn’t working well and Malcolm McDowell was really struggling to pick his head up and the other actors weren’t aware and just acting along. I also read that was not true and it did work fine, it would have been documented if it failed and it wasn’t supposedly. Who knows but nonetheless, the scene turned out terrifying.
Bollocks. He would have been free to lift his head at any time. Although, if he was professional enough to keep his head submerged for the purpose of the scene then kudos to him!
Don't forget that they accidentally cut his cornea open in the "it's a sin" scene, he's a great actor who endured through so much pain only for the art of film-making. It paid off quite well, it's too bad we don't see as many dedicated actors now.
@@deloreanjones4628 On which part? I just read the cornea part in an article, so I'm not sure if it's 100% fact or whatever, with the second part I was just saying that most actors seem to be in it for the paycheck, they don't seem to even be enjoying themselves half of the time. I'm not saying an actor needs to be under torture like Alex here, I'm just saying they should do it for the love, not for the paycheck.
Notice Alex is gagging and near vomiting the whole time when this ex-droogs beat him and try to drown him, that's because his violent urges and anger are being supressed due to the therapy he did... He's trying his hardest to try and hit dim and George, but he can't physically do it
@@watchoutforsnak3s I figured there was a pit filled with water underneath the no-bottom trough with a scuba diver holding a regulator to McDowell's mouth.
When the camera zooms in as Alex is lifting his head up, and that look on his face as he says "Oh No" and how the music starts as soon a it is revealed who Alex is seeing... god, is marvelous, Kubrick did know how to make films, never ever seen movies like his, beyond fascinating and engaging
This movie was so far fucking ahead of its time it ain't funny. It still exceeds the quality of everything in the theaters these days in terms of intelligence, social insight/satire; and originality (with a nod to the novel by Burgess on which it is based). Kubrick is the Saint of Film-making!
I've never noticed it before but around the 2:00 mark his fight or flight kicks in, which triggers the treatment from the conditioning which you can hear in the reaching sounds he makes. So in addition to the fear, pain and everything else Alex is enduring, he's also feeling the horrible sick feeling that he'd do anything to avoid.
Stanley is a genius, he made us sympathise an insane! Author and actors did a splendid job but it would've meant nothing if Stanley wasn't the captain of the ship
I didn't feel sorry at all for the character. The whole second half of the film was quite satisfying to watch honestly. But I did feel bad for the actor who about drowned while they were filming this.
@@dancegod1691 then I guess the film didnt even make you think,this is what films do,make you think!Alex in the second half of the film is a broken man a man who has been tortured and humiliated becouse of prison,when he returns to the society everyone continues to torture him without any compassion for he has been through(brainwashed,beaten,mentally tortured,being humiliated,losing the love of his family and so on....)if alex was horrible at the first half then the people around him at the second half are being even more cruel,I think a nice scene was the part of when he returns to the house of the writer when at first the writer sympathise with him for being tortured yet later he too becomes a monster because of anger and revenge, the story of alex in the second part of the movie is the story of every released prisoner who struggles in the society to live after his freed and in the end just like alex in the film he returns in his past self,revenge,anger and cruelty is what our society offers to these broken men and this is what they will become,surely justice is not revenge yet just like many other things justice is a concept created by humans who have showed many times that they can be the worst monsters (of course the movie covers other concepts as well like power,choice,how the governments uses people and being human, but revenge and justice is also one of the main themes in the movie)
@@panoskatrin4910 Yeah exactly, I think viewers are missing the point if they're watch John Wick and going "hmm why doesn't he put down his gun and just talk to these guys? Why does he need a dead wife? How about they injure the puppy instead of kill it? Make me feel much better than what the story is actually about"
@@panoskatrin4910 But that logic, no punishment should exist. Not for rape, not for hate crimes, nothing. Technically there is a scientific cause for every behavior or action; does that excuse the behavior? And treating a sociopath well won't make him grateful, or make him act less bad; it will just educate him to the fact that certain people are easier to take advantage of. What about his victims? They will never return to life. Should he be treated with dignity, respect and given freedom even though his victims will never have the opportunity to live their lives to their full?
“Well....Well...Well 😆 Well...Well..Well....Well” 😂 if it isn’t little Alex...” No more viddy-drue?? I don’t believe it 😳...” A job for two who are now of job age....THE POLICE!!!!!!!!😆😂..And that sinister dead music when the camera fixes on dim is CLASSIC 👍
@@thatsprettylunchean Same... I used to love watching the R rated shit except for when I found one that was a tad bit too much and i end up with nightmares or something.
Alex was the only one who really stepped out of the shadows to engage the hobo, and he precipitated the beating. Also even if he does recognize the others, they're wearing badges now. Best to call it even and keep quiet unless he wants another beat down from them.
Hahaha. Love that Alex' murderous urges are manifested by his gagging. He's pleading for mercy and at the same time, programatically subverting his desire to kill Georgie and Dim, which he especially wants to do. Funny, the two could have easily killed him without redress, but of course, that would have ended the movie. I guess we can say, that they wanted him to suffer but not die, for the sake of the plot.
Despite not liking the movie much (i liked book though), this is still one of most disturbing and omnious scenes I've ever seen. The way how music starts, how Dim begins to smile, truly disturbing. And the place they beat him up feels like from some nightmare, a place half forgotten by everyone.
yeah.. the author (widower of the woman Alex r...d earlier in the film) whose house he goes to for help right afterwards actually talks about how the police often brought people out there to brutalise them.
1. Malcolm no doubt misses that head of hair he had, back in the day. 2. Note the light source (setting sun) in the background, when they were walking down the path. Kubrick loved using a light source in the background, in all of his films. (Recall all the panel instrument lights in the background, on the B-52 scenes during "Dr. Strangelove.")
For a film with many memorable scenes, this one always stood out to me. The quick zoom to Alex's face as the "dread theme" starts playing as he realizes it's Dim and Georgie freaks me out every time I see it. What a twist. It's good ironic commentary on the police in general too.
I always through this was the lesson of the book. Aggression not only results in violence, removing Alex's ability to function with aggression, has left him a victim unable to justifiably defend himself.
the ending to this is kinda a lesson too with all of the horrible characters throughout the book having good endings while the other people the droogs attacked have bad ending with the old guy presumably taken to prison and all this homeless people still remaining homeless and probely were beaten up by alex and his new droogs after he got his ultra violence back
Here's a mindfuck. They were that close to helping Alex out had they not recognize him. Granted both novel and movie imply Alex isn't the first person they beat on, but Dim actually did seem concerned about the guy before he realized who it was. Had he not been filled with revenge, even by the standards of that timeline, Dim would probably make a decent cop.
Fun fact: When preparing for his role as the Joker in The Dark Knight, Heath Ledger referenced Malcolm McDowell's performance in this film. I feel like this scene almost parallels the parade scene where Joker's thugs dress up as soldiers.
Sebas Bobby I agree my Uncle Steve said as line and also said fuck off die my uncle Steve was in marine core 1969 and he was desert storm one my uncle had a clockwork orange on dvd 📀 also but own English version with deffrent ending where Alex and 3 druges siting down in front of cameras in drugge outfits and not at hospital end where says I am cure all right
Yeah it shows just how angry he is at Alex for what he has done to him in the past and that he's still suffering because of the memories, it's honestly terrifying.
@@Whosthis761 From what I heard the book ends with Alex all grown up only he's bored with violence now and decides it might be time to grow up, instead of entertaining himself by picturing horrific things he pictures stuff like him sitting near a fire place drinking tea, he even bumps into one of his old droogies Pete who invites him to a dinner with him and his wife, Alex imagines that maybe he could get a wife and maybe a kid too who might be how he used to be.
Georgie and Dim even as cops still have a lot of Droog in them considering they knew exactly where to take Alex. He's not the first and will not be the last to be taken to the trough.
Tell you what I love, Dim’s Number is 665, and Georgie’s is 667. They carry Alex between them, making him 666. Genius
iml that incredible
Wow thats very well spotted
Well spotted dude,but,where is Pete?He was the quiet one.I wonder if it's aimed at him somehow
@@paulanthony5274 in the books its said that peter actually got a wife and kids and decided to follow a good life, and alex actually wants to follow his steps
@@editthatshit9423 Which goes against the whole point of the story
You know this isn't the first time they've drowned someone in that trough, how else did they know where it was in the middle no where.
MrFunkhauser Probably watched horse riders go that way.
Well fuck I never thought of it that way. But you’re right.
The writer does explain to Alex that the police do that to people often at that trough.
Good point.
just to think cows sheep pigs and other animals as pissed in that trough ewwwww lol
Another hidden aspect of this is the fact that they were being nice and professional before they realised it was Alex. Disturbing in it's own way.
@Parnell Anderson He treated them horribly.
@Mr Sullivan that’s what the first dude said an the second you made it confusing
"Officer call me" .... I've always loved the slurred delivery of that line
and after that... WELL WELL WELL... WELL WELL WELL
At least they're probably not corrupt to other people. *Probably.*
I just noticed, because of the treatment Alex gets sick when he feels violent urges and he was coughing and gagging while they had him. He wanted to kill them so bad
I'm sure he was also conditioned to feel ill when he simply witnesses ultraviolence or sexual activity in general
@@stressedrex Thats true, didnt consider that
He probably does kill them after he starts working with the government or the government probably killed them at the end of the film its implied that they were murdered when they tell him all of his enemies were taken care of and anyone who would try to harm him are screaming in a cage
Imo that's opposite. He felt sick for knowing what these two can theoretically do to him, imagining what might happen in these woods, he felt sick and scarred. Listen to his voice, this doesn't sound like an angry man at all.
To prove myself i'd also point, that the entire "background" anger (after cure) that Alex had in his thoughts in the book, was mentioned in the movie only once, at parents house. Besides that, he acts like really cured in his mind as well.
@@mrnukes797he turns good in the end in the book.
He was head under for only 1 minute and 3 seconds...and it always seems like an eternity. That is great film making.
For only?!
For onley that's enough to make most pass out or drown.
David Erdody plus he was eating those body shots with the baton, that’s causing gasping for sure
@Nah mate You must be trolling
@subcomandante marcos Thanks
Georgie and Dim are just as evil and sadistic as Alex is, just not as smart. They must sure be one dreaded pair of cops.
Proves that the line between the cops and the gangs in the world of A Clockwork Orange is rather thin and blurred. Even the doctors who "treat" Alex are a bit sadistic when they realize he is suffering during Ludovico's treatment
idk, they got away with their crimes. Alex just thinks he's smart, when he really isn't
YEAH---WELCOME TO THE PRESENT
You guys are onto something. In my opinion Alex is the personification of evil while his droogs are still evil just lesser. Notice how Dim's badge number is 665 and Georgie's is 667 with Alex in the middle this entire scene.
They're followers; the banality of evil.
this movie is a great example of violence coming full circle. Alex's gang attacks a homeless man, he gets attacked by a homeless gang. Alex attacks his droogs, his droogs attack him
Can someone explain why he's been coughing the entire time when his friends take him to the woods? Lol
@K C aha okay, thx for asking me bae 😘
@@realcritical-kr2dd His whole "rehabilitation" was centered around a drug that made him feel ill while watching violent films. The result is him feeling sick and helpless whenever exposed to violence in any form. He's being manhandled and also wants to fight back, thus triggering the response of feeling ill.
also the drowning, like the marina
Hence the title, A Clockwork Orange. What goes around comes around.
0:15 I just love how the music starts and Dim breaks into that evil smile.
that music gives me the chills everytime I hear it. Especially the opening, creepiest opening scene ever
There is a relatively unknown band that lives and breathes a clockwork orange Ive seen them live a few times but they don't allow filming or phones into the show they wear the same outfit as the droogs in a clockwork orange the only difference is their version is all black jockstrap and everything, the few times Ive seen them live it gets cut short due to violence. The name of the band is the thirst they have quite a few songs on UA-cam and seem to put out new songs quite frequently
Kubrick was pretty much the master of using music to drive scenes
You *know* he was just beside himself with pleasure at the prospect of having a go at Alex after all that time!
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_Well, well, well_
_Well, well, well, well, well_
My favorite line
That's why they called him Dim
Same
I like how both Dim and Georgie-boy immediately regress to their old selves
uh, they never stopped being their old selves.
I've done that,
@plasticweapon
Precisely. They ARE their old selves and present selves. The only difference is that they now have rozzers' uniforms.
A movie like a fever dream. Pure cinematic art.
Yes especially the soundtrack really has fever dream vibes its so good
I agree. I feel like the music brings everything together
I love Kubrick's cinematography. Every frame of his movies can be made into a poster.
exactly. i listen to the soundtracks of this film while being sick
ACO is very prophetic. An increasingly right wing neo f*sc*st government needs to repress intellectuals and critics with a uniformed force of the worst kind of thugs, jokingly called a "police force". Anthony Burgess wrote the novel about such a dystopia future. He was attacked by a gang in real life, and he was angry at the police not coming to his aid. But later he thought about such uniformed thugs being useful to the state, especially in the light of the German experience of the eps and 40s.
A Clockwork Orange 🍊 was born.
In the original novel, Georgie died, so in this scene, it was actually Dim and Billyboy, the rival gangleader from the opening brawl.
Henrik Magnusson also as coppers?
Damn they shoulda stuck with that version!!!!
@Raymond Pritchard wow, thanks for the input.
Damn, you spoiled it for me dude
Yes
Warren Clarke who's playing Dim of "A Clockwork Orange" is amazing actor. God bless his soul. R.I.P (1947-2014)
Even though he’s a supporting character he left such an impression. R.I.P. to Sir Warren Clarke. 🙏🙏🙏
He looks SO young here compared to his Dalziel and Pascoe days.
He was. I loved his Blackadder performance too. "I shall take off my belt and by thunder me trousers will fall down."
Bummer 😢
He was in the Clint Eastwood movie ....Firefox .....btw it's Officer Colby to you.
I love how poetically the actor who plays Georgie delivers his lines @0:36
A job for two :)
@@Hobbitydobbity who are now a job age
I love the way Dim’s face slowly changes from an expression of dense confusion to a look of evil, childish glee.
“Enough is remembered tho little Alex” that line in this context is chilling.
I love how a couple violent thugs ended up becoming cops which reflects real life where a lot of psychopathic, bullies from high school end up in law enforcement. This movie is deep and one of my all time favorites.
Justin Storelli Yep, the meathead jock douchebags end up becoming cops who bully the weak and arrest and put them in jail for the pettiest of crimes.
and the smarter sociopaths/psychopaths/whatever become well-to-do on wall street or in Congress, wearing a suit, and some end up getting fucked anyway
or rather even when one accepts and integrates into society one still gets screwed
Fred Smith Whatever you're trying to counter it won't work. At the end of the day the juicers get the respect, the attention, and the girls. End of story!
It's usually the BULLIED from high school who become cops. They have a chip on their shoulder and think they're big men with a gun and a monopoly on violence. The bullies from school grow up and move on and get real jobs.
Bunch of nonsense.
"a job for two, who are now of job age."
Some info.
Malcolm did NOT nearly drown in this scene. He never mentioned it in the commentary on the DVD, and he even talks about having a breathing tube while he's under the water. The water was muddied with beef extract to hide the oxygen tank and tube. But he did say it was freezing cold that day. Plus in one of the documentaries on the film, they say there was never any record of equipment failure as they did several takes of the scene.
He did have his cornea scratched and ribs broken, though.
yeah malcolm said that the ludivico method scratched his cornea
I’m pretty sure it broke halfway through filming
@@dullfuture9283 "there was never any record of equipment failure as they did several takes"
@@Nico-pb1sryeah but he’s pretty sure tho
0:10. That zoom-in on Alex's face set this whole scene up perfectly. What a great reaction shot.
Dim's stupid and obnoxious giggle really makes me laugh. They don't call him Dim for nothing. 😂
james rodriguez I'd say Din was 3rd funniest character in Clockwork orange; after Alex and Mr Deltoid
Don't call him "Dim" no more. "Officer" call 'em! Hehe, hehehehe 🤪
It’s probably short for Dimitri
Don't call him Dim,officer call him!
I remember watching this mini-series on Masterpiece Theatre about the life of Winston Churchill's mother. The actor who played a young Churchill looked very familiar but I couldn't place him. I looked up his name in the IMDB and it was Warren Clarke who played Dim. How about that for acting range? From a moronic hooligan to young Winston Churchill.
funny thing is that probably isn't the first time they have taken somebody out there because they knew exactly were that water trough was.
Something chilling...the location away from the streets, watching them walk him from behind, overcast weather, the sound effects...just perfect...one of my favorite scenes in the movie
Note that while they were carrying him like executioners, at some point the Dies Irae melody plays 1:22
A piece sung in funerals (not the Mozart version).
3:05 "A bit more, he's still kicking."
Ugh. Dim is so sadistic. My heart doesn't exactly go out to Alex, but this is still sickening.
On some level, Alex is getting his just deserts. But any joy one can take from Alex's suffering is weakened by the fact that A) it is being done by his former goons B) the former goons are now police who probably use their power to abuse others and C) Alex has no ability to fight back.
@@nathanseper8738 also D from the fact that he had been "reformed."
@@anironiccoolness I would rather have Alex defeated in an honorable way than have him be treated like this.
The brilliance of this movie is how it makes you feel icky by almost forcing you to feel bad for a total psychopath.
@@MichaelFreckelton Alex is evil, but the society around him is even more so. That's the brutal truth.
Dim's voice when he's ordering the hobos away is very different from his usual voice that comes back when he recognizes Alex.
Either that or he was putting it on so he seemed more intimidating
Yeah it's showing he's still the same psychopath as back then.
Especially with his vapid chuckling.
01:55 but don’t call me Dim anymore, either. Officer, call me! 😆
0:10 *Alex:* Things can't possibly get any worse.
0:12 *Alex:* And the clouds opened and god said "I hate you Alex DeLarge."
O H N O
(then god just summons Georgie and Dim)
'This is to make sure you stay cured' is one of the most chilling lines in film history.
Yeah but too bad that didn’t happen he was back to his old self after his recovery.
@elijahbaker781 Alex in this version definitely went after these two and probably tortures them now since he's on government payroll I could see Alex working as a torturer or military executioner
The trippy sound as they are battering Alex was supposed to be like a comedic effect but I think it makes it more horrific, it sounds nightmarish...not lighthearted!?
Agreed, there’s something viscerally disturbing about it.
@@MarcoBoneMan not as bad as The Shining.
they held that actor under the water for a good minute too not sure if kubrick would have had some form of air in the tub for him otherwise its pretty brutal for a movie of its age
From what I’ve read, there was a breathing apparatus but supposedly it wasn’t working well and Malcolm McDowell was really struggling to pick his head up and the other actors weren’t aware and just acting along. I also read that was not true and it did work fine, it would have been documented if it failed and it wasn’t supposedly. Who knows but nonetheless, the scene turned out terrifying.
It’s terrifying
WEW, WEW WEW WEW
if it isn't little wew
Long time no viddy wew
yare yare
Oh no
god i love the comments on every video to this movie
0:16...Watch Dim's face go from questioning to recognizing and to flat-out *evil* in seconds flat.
That guy’s performance is criminally underrated (..someone comment his name😭😭🙏)
Unmixed Unmastered Warren Clarke is the actor’s name :)
The cueing of Wendy Carlos’ music is so powerful
I just love the whole atmosphere of this scene with all the bare trees and everything. Really creepy and disturbing.
they're just normal English trees
Sure. I just like it because it reminds of a dream I had once about the Joker.
Jam Lym isolation?
I sense over analysing
I agree! It's the fact that they are out in the country and away from any people and commotion.
This is without a doubt one of my favorite movies of all time.
not Bambi ?
@@MrDaiseymay this is Bambi on steroids 🤣🤣🤣
"WELL WELL WELL... WELL WELL WELL WELL"
Канал неофициального телевидения WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL
WELL---spotted. why are you wearing that leopard skin?
@@ArmyJames "If it isn't little Alex"
The soundtrack is fantastic, really added to the atmosphere
I love the line, "this is to make sure you stay cured."😆
I seen in a documentary that he was actually drowning down there. His breathing tube stopped working
Bollocks. He would have been free to lift his head at any time. Although, if he was professional enough to keep his head submerged for the purpose of the scene then kudos to him!
They were actually holding his head down forcefully.
Don't forget that they accidentally cut his cornea open in the "it's a sin" scene, he's a great actor who endured through so much pain only for the art of film-making. It paid off quite well, it's too bad we don't see as many dedicated actors now.
@@totallynotsummermorrison33 I don't know if you're joking or not
@@deloreanjones4628 On which part? I just read the cornea part in an article, so I'm not sure if it's 100% fact or whatever, with the second part I was just saying that most actors seem to be in it for the paycheck, they don't seem to even be enjoying themselves half of the time. I'm not saying an actor needs to be under torture like Alex here, I'm just saying they should do it for the love, not for the paycheck.
Notice Alex is gagging and near vomiting the whole time when this ex-droogs beat him and try to drown him, that's because his violent urges and anger are being supressed due to the therapy he did...
He's trying his hardest to try and hit dim and George, but he can't physically do it
The length of time Malcolm McDowell holds his breath in the water of that trough is really impressive. Over a full minute.
They had an oxygen tank, but the water was still freezing cold and they did 28 takes. So I agree, it’s definitely still impressive.
@watchoutforsnak3s I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.
Even with an oxygen tank, I agree it's impressive. It would've been really cold there.
@@watchoutforsnak3s I figured there was a pit filled with water underneath the no-bottom trough with a scuba diver holding a regulator to McDowell's mouth.
i read that the water was warm , but i could be wrong@@watchoutforsnak3s
When the camera zooms in as Alex is lifting his head up, and that look on his face as he says "Oh No" and how the music starts as soon a it is revealed who Alex is seeing... god, is marvelous, Kubrick did know how to make films, never ever seen movies like his, beyond fascinating and engaging
This movie was so far fucking ahead of its time it ain't funny. It still exceeds the quality of everything in the theaters these days in terms of intelligence, social insight/satire; and originality (with a nod to the novel by Burgess on which it is based). Kubrick is the Saint of Film-making!
Honestly this wasn't all that great
@@dancegod1691 saw it yesterday and I disagree hard. One of the best movies i’ve seen. It’s so damn unique.
@@SlipknotMachinehead Then make sure to watch 2001 if you haven't
@@dancegod1691 i have. Liked this a lot better though
@@SlipknotMachinehead That's cool! I think youd also like Ex Machina
I genuinely didn't see this coming the first time I watched this
who did----but Kubrick
Same. I remember getting chills.
I was as surprised as Alex 😆😆
I've never noticed it before but around the 2:00 mark his fight or flight kicks in, which triggers the treatment from the conditioning which you can hear in the reaching sounds he makes. So in addition to the fear, pain and everything else Alex is enduring, he's also feeling the horrible sick feeling that he'd do anything to avoid.
The way Dim’s eyes light up is horrifying
One of the only movies I can watch multiple times. This book is phenomenal, and the movie, the music, the areas, this entire story is a masterpiece.
I almost drowned just by watching this scene.
“A job for two who are now a job age, the police!”
Stanley is a genius, he made us sympathise an insane! Author and actors did a splendid job but it would've meant nothing if Stanley wasn't the captain of the ship
It's Burgess that made Alex the way he is, not Stanley.
Balls. Without Burgess’ novel you’d have fuck all.
moin khan yeah but you know Kubrick is a little strange but I think it’s because we are used to Hollywood films
Burgess is the ship and stanley is the captain
The book is even more bloody and Alex is even more brutal in it, and he gets even more brutally treated but you still sympathize with him
I love how it shows that even as police officers they're still the same psychopaths.
Can you imagine what Alex is going to do to them once he’s cured?
nothing? sorry man, this isn't john wick.
@@plasticweapon morons
@@plasticweapon he is ultra violent . The method only stopping him , it didn't fixed him . So the result is only more violent
@@manhuc4856 you ignt, you no speak good engrish
@@manhuc4856 these two are police atleast they have some fighting capabilities it ain't like some action film
RIP Warren Clarke who portrayed Dim.
The score is genius.
Made by a great electronic composer
Wendy Carlos arrangement of Purcell’s funeral march
I remember when I first watched this movie I was blown away, I never really realized how good film could be
Every scene in this movie really is a masterpiece
the **boing!!** sound effects really added to the absurdity of the violence here.
0:15 Most shocking part of the film.
The twist
665 and 667 ganging on 666
It was obvious if you read the book. Only instead of Georgie, it’s Billy Boy who was with Dim.
@@TheCeraization "If you knew it would happen, you would have known it would happen".
Agreed
Alex ratted out Georgie and Dim, and the governor said "they sound PERFECT for my police force!"
0:10 Genuinely one of the most shocking scenes in cinema. My brother and I were flipping out when we first saw this.
Dim and the other did the bad things too. I think we feel sorry for Alex because it's unfair. They're as guilty as Alex.
I didn't feel sorry at all for the character. The whole second half of the film was quite satisfying to watch honestly. But I did feel bad for the actor who about drowned while they were filming this.
@@dancegod1691 then I guess the film didnt even make you think,this is what films do,make you think!Alex in the second half of the film is a broken man a man who has been tortured and humiliated becouse of prison,when he returns to the society everyone continues to torture him without any compassion for he has been through(brainwashed,beaten,mentally tortured,being humiliated,losing the love of his family and so on....)if alex was horrible at the first half then the people around him at the second half are being even more cruel,I think a nice scene was the part of when he returns to the house of the writer when at first the writer sympathise with him for being tortured yet later he too becomes a monster because of anger and revenge, the story of alex in the second part of the movie is the story of every released prisoner who struggles in the society to live after his freed and in the end just like alex in the film he returns in his past self,revenge,anger and cruelty is what our society offers to these broken men and this is what they will become,surely justice is not revenge yet just like many other things justice is a concept created by humans who have showed many times that they can be the worst monsters (of course the movie covers other concepts as well like power,choice,how the governments uses people and being human, but revenge and justice is also one of the main themes in the movie)
Not really maybe it’s just payback and probably the only time they did it
@@panoskatrin4910 Yeah exactly, I think viewers are missing the point if they're watch John Wick and going "hmm why doesn't he put down his gun and just talk to these guys? Why does he need a dead wife? How about they injure the puppy instead of kill it? Make me feel much better than what the story is actually about"
@@panoskatrin4910 But that logic, no punishment should exist. Not for rape, not for hate crimes, nothing. Technically there is a scientific cause for every behavior or action; does that excuse the behavior? And treating a sociopath well won't make him grateful, or make him act less bad; it will just educate him to the fact that certain people are easier to take advantage of. What about his victims? They will never return to life. Should he be treated with dignity, respect and given freedom even though his victims will never have the opportunity to live their lives to their full?
“Well....Well...Well 😆 Well...Well..Well....Well” 😂 if it isn’t little Alex...” No more viddy-drue?? I don’t believe it 😳...” A job for two who are now of job age....THE POLICE!!!!!!!!😆😂..And that sinister dead music when the camera fixes on dim is CLASSIC 👍
Droog
I have the DVD. Malcolm McDowell’s commentary on it is fascinating. He remembers every detail of it, & talks about this scene at length.
This scene scared the shit outta me when i was younger
@TM Films yeah, exactly
@@davidvasey5065 Its not that werid TBH
At a younger age I exposed myself to not exactly PG stuff on TV
@@thatsprettylunchean Same... I used to love watching the R rated shit except for when I found one that was a tad bit too much and i end up with nightmares or something.
@@thatsprettylunchean Dude I watched 15 rated movies at age 5 and under
Y'all got no shit on me. I was addicted to Silence of the Lambs back when I was 8. Probably because I didn't understand shit lmao
If Alex wasn’t in a trance he’d destroy them
This is just amazing cinematography
It's fun that the hobo recognized Alex but not the two other droogies as well
What are you talking about ? They recognized him as quickly just as that tramp .
Alex was the only one who really stepped out of the shadows to engage the hobo, and he precipitated the beating. Also even if he does recognize the others, they're wearing badges now. Best to call it even and keep quiet unless he wants another beat down from them.
I bet they knew dim and georgie were police and knew they couldnt really do anything to them
Always be good to your underlings. We'll never know where would we and they be after awhile.
Hahaha. Love that Alex' murderous urges are manifested by his gagging. He's pleading for mercy and at the same time, programatically subverting his desire to kill Georgie and Dim, which he especially wants to do. Funny, the two could have easily killed him without redress, but of course, that would have ended the movie. I guess we can say, that they wanted him to suffer but not die, for the sake of the plot.
My favourite scene, because of how awesome this plot twist, those "well well well", the soundtrack and acting are united.
This is more violent and disturbing than Joker 2019.
The character Alex Delarge as portrayed here by Malcolm McDowell was an inspiration for Heath Ledger when he was preparing for the role of The Joker
clockwork orange is perfect movie on morality joker is based on the same idea but doesn’t hit as hard as this
Joker isn’t intended to be overly violent or disturbing?
Joker isn't disturbing at all...
Joker: society is evil
A clockwork orange: man Is naturally evil
Despite not liking the movie much (i liked book though), this is still one of most disturbing and omnious scenes I've ever seen. The way how music starts, how Dim begins to smile, truly disturbing. And the place they beat him up feels like from some nightmare, a place half forgotten by everyone.
The lightning and colour let the scenery appear extra terrifying, desolated and hopeless.
Just imagine what it must feel like to be on Alex spot.
Something tells me that it's not the first time Dim and Georgie takes somebody out for a swim in the bathtub.
They did
yeah.. the author (widower of the woman Alex r...d earlier in the film) whose house he goes to for help right afterwards actually talks about how the police often brought people out there to brutalise them.
Dim's cretinous, evil giggling, though. Sounds far more menacing and scary than dumb or humorous to me.
1. Malcolm no doubt misses that head of hair he had, back in the day.
2. Note the light source (setting sun) in the background, when they were walking down the path. Kubrick loved using a light source in the background, in all of his films. (Recall all the panel instrument lights in the background, on the B-52 scenes during "Dr. Strangelove.")
One of the best and most important films ever made.
The score is superb.
For a film with many memorable scenes, this one always stood out to me. The quick zoom to Alex's face as the "dread theme" starts playing as he realizes it's Dim and Georgie freaks me out every time I see it. What a twist. It's good ironic commentary on the police in general too.
I always through this was the lesson of the book. Aggression not only results in violence, removing Alex's ability to function with aggression, has left him a victim unable to justifiably defend himself.
the ending to this is kinda a lesson too with all of the horrible characters throughout the book having good endings while the other people the droogs attacked have bad ending with the old guy presumably taken to prison and all this homeless people still remaining homeless and probely were beaten up by alex and his new droogs after he got his ultra violence back
I remember the first time I saw this movie and 0:16 came on screen I gasped and screamed “NOOOOO”
I work as a police officer, and when I encounter some known junkie I simply say: "Well, well, well, well, well..."
When I first saw this scene I really thought he was going to die. I actually ... felt bad for him. Damnit Kubrick. You got me.
Kubrick gets everybody!
Seeing a handcuffed man drowned in a murky bathtub in the woods is pretty disturbing no matter who it's done to
Here's a mindfuck. They were that close to helping Alex out had they not recognize him. Granted both novel and movie imply Alex isn't the first person they beat on, but Dim actually did seem concerned about the guy before he realized who it was. Had he not been filled with revenge, even by the standards of that timeline, Dim would probably make a decent cop.
The way Alex was being cured is my reaction to this scene.
“AAAAAAAAAHHH STOP IT STOP IT PLEASE I BEG YOU!”
It was just sad.
Well...well well well well well well well well
Dim 665 George boy 667 Alex 666
at last I see it
*WELL!* (hueheh) *WELL. WELL. WELL.* (hueheuhehhe)
*WELL. WELL. WELL. WELL* (huhuHEuhehe)
*IF EET ISN'T LITTLE ALIX. LOHNG TOIME NOH-VIDDY, DROUG. HAOW GOES?*
Fun fact: When preparing for his role as the Joker in The Dark Knight, Heath Ledger referenced Malcolm McDowell's performance in this film. I feel like this scene almost parallels the parade scene where Joker's thugs dress up as soldiers.
Yeah thank God that never happens in real life
@@tonywords6713 lol
If there's not already a Dim "Well! Well! Well!" sound clip ringtone, then there should be.
What goes around comes around.
Sebas Bobby I agree my Uncle Steve said as line and also said fuck off die my uncle Steve was in marine core 1969 and he was desert storm one my uncle had a clockwork orange on dvd 📀 also but own English version with deffrent ending where Alex and 3 druges siting down in front of cameras in drugge outfits and not at hospital end where says I am cure all right
Only the bad
@@STUNTHEINSECT
Ahhh...
So why bother with 'justice?'
Music makes this scene extraordinary
Purcell wrote this funeral music to be used for Queen Mary.
It was used again for Purcell's own funeral 8 months later.
OH-
In the book, it was Dim and Billyboy. That would have made for an equally delicious scene.
Georgie had been killed while little Alex was in the Staja.
so heart warming to know in the book dim and billy boy forgave each other and became friends and bonded over torturing alex
@@Sam81537 LOL
2:18 Let's talk about those sound effects for a moment!
The way he says a bit more he's still kicking is so chilling
Yeah it shows just how angry he is at Alex for what he has done to him in the past and that he's still suffering because of the memories, it's honestly terrifying.
And knowing this isn't the first time they brought someone here
@@Whosthis761 Yeah that shows they're still the same psychopaths and have not changed.
Would love a book about Alex after the ending
@@Whosthis761 From what I heard the book ends with Alex all grown up only he's bored with violence now and decides it might be time to grow up, instead of entertaining himself by picturing horrific things he pictures stuff like him sitting near a fire place drinking tea, he even bumps into one of his old droogies Pete who invites him to a dinner with him and his wife, Alex imagines that maybe he could get a wife and maybe a kid too who might be how he used to be.
I just got the book through and i have to give massive kudos to Kubrick for making it so faithful to the book.
I really wanted to see Alex become "cured all right" then come back and get these two.
why?
When I saw this for the first time, the twist shocked me and was taking this whole scene to process 😳
0:14 It was at this moment, Alex knew he was fucked. hahaha
“Well, well, well…well, well, well, if it isn’t little Alex. Long time no viddy Droog!”:)
“It’s impossible I don’t believe it.”
Georgie and Dim even as cops still have a lot of Droog in them considering they knew exactly where to take Alex. He's not the first and will not be the last to be taken to the trough.