Flash Photography - Orlit Rovelight RT610 (Jinbei HD610) vs. Xplor 600 (Godox AD600)
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Orlit Rovelight 610 Description from Adorama:
In fact, it is the only 600ws wireless TTL monolight that that breaks the Canon RT barrier and also works on Nikon wireless systems. What more could you want? How about an outstanding Guide Number of 201 (ft at ISO 100), with manual levels from full to 1/256 power with fine 0.1 stop graduations. And stop action 'Freeze Mode' down to 1/19000th of a second and HSS built to rival even the most difficult challenges. More? An App and a Studio Remote How about a 6000mAh Lithium-ion interchangeable battery that packs up to 450 full power pops to give you total 600wsfreedom, anywhere, with a built in power level display. And, to top it all off, the ORLIT TR-611C and TR-612N remotes not only transmit to the Rovelight RT, but manually controls the famous Flashpoint Rovelight 600 monolight.
This compact monolight is not only the answer for all those loyal Canon RT TTL owners longing to have a more extensive and powerful lighting solution, without losing the wireless control in which they have already invested, but at the same time, this powerful package is the perfect companion for Nikon users with the ORLIT TR-611C TTL TRANSCEIVER atop their DSLR's. Plus, using the new ORLIT RT-600C Canon TTL or 600N Nikon TTL Speedlights, extends the remote monolight's possibilities even further, just like a Canon or Nikon flash, with 5 Groups in 15 Channels, and a special GR Mode where each member of the group can be independently set to mix of Manual or TTL automation. The use of the ORLIT TR-611C or 612-N remote adds 980ft/300m remote freedom without a speedlight to provide full TTL / Remote Manual / HSS, in 3 individual groups, with backward compatibility to legacy Flashpoint Rovelight and the above mentioned HSS link to Canon and Nikon cameras
The Orbit Rovelight RT-610's user interface design features a large clear full color LCD display, simplified menu system, and generous power and function control dial, graced by soft menu touch control buttons for all options. Future technologies and camera sync are firmware updated through the USB port. The radio modes are 4: C-Canon, N-Nikon, TRS-Flashpoint Rovelight (in Manual), and A6-HSS function for Nikon or Canon.
HSS Mode allows shutter speeds to 1/8000 through pulsing its light between the quickest focal plane shutter gate. The monolight can regulate flash duration (t0.5), by means of the manual output, from a rich 1/800s to an action arresting 1/8000s. To really capture the split second event, the Freeze Mode achieves an additional reach to just 1/19000s while still at a color balanced 5500 degree Kelvin.
Powerful 600Ws 201GN (ISO 100 ft, Standard Reflector)
Superb output in the most compact package
Eliminates the need for cords and AC powered strobes
20W LED Modeling Light (100W Tungsten Equivalent, 3200K) with 3 modeling lamp levels
Built in 2.4Ghz ORLIT RT radio system with full Canon RT wireless remote control.
Canon ETTL Nikon iTTL Radio Slave Modes
Links wirelessly with new Orlit Speedlight RT-600C with full Canon RT ETTL wireless remote control.
EV TTL Override Adjustment from -3.0 to +3.0EV
Bowens S-type Accessory Mount with many light modifiers available
Incredible long-life battery using Lithium Ion Technology with a replaceable 14.8V / 6000mAh battery module
Over 450 Full Power Shots per 3 hour Battery Charge
Maximum 2.5 Seconds Recycle Time
Tilt head with integrated umbrella mount
Vents and automatic fans for cooler, quieter running lights
Stable color temperature at 5500 150 K over the normal power range
Selectable Flash Modes TTL / M / Multi
Power adjusts from full power to 1/256 in 1/3 and 1/10 stop increments over a 9 stop range
Large Color Dot Matrix LCD Display panel with clear and direct operation
High Speed Sync to 1/8000th
Short Flash Duration IGBT (Freeze Mode) 1/800s 1/19000s
Long Flash Duration Mode Down to 1/32 Power with rich spectral saturation
Fantastic Wireless Range 980ft/300m plus with Orlit TR-611C / TR-612N or Speedlight RT-600C as Transmitter
5 Groups A / B / C / D / E / F
16 Channels
Industry benchmark interference avoidance with the new Orlit RT Radio System
Thermostatically Controlled Auto Fan Cooling with Overheat Protection
Recycle audio signal
User selectable Second Curtain Sync
Remote Transmitter Backward compatible with Flashpoint Rovelight 600 TRS-V / TR-A6 and TRS Trigger System
Can be triggered optically, or with a standard 3.5mm sync cord
Extensive Custom Functions
Auto Memory Recall
Continuous Capture remote mode sense to specific cameras
Mini USB Port for Firmware Upgrades
2 Year Warranty
Be advised that the Orlit RT610 Will NOT work with the Yongnuo 600RT speedlights. I tested it myself. For whatever reason it only works with original Canon 600RT speelights. I have seen videos on the internet where there is another Chinese 600RT stlyle flash that does work with the Orlit but the Yongnuo does not. Otherwise great video. I've been waiting for this comparison. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Phillip - glad I specified that it was a hunch. Thats very strange that they don't work together.
Hi there! I do have 2 Yongnuo 600RT's which work fine with the Rovelight RT610. Just make sure the channels and ID's are all the same on the Rovelight RT610 and the YN600EX-RT's and you should be fine. I do have the TR-Q6 trigger and they work great. I hope this helps.
Yongnuo probably updated the firmware. Or Maybe Jinbei/Orlit updated theirs. The Yongnuo 600RTs that I own were bought in late 2015 and they definitely do not control this Orlit. However, the Orlit TR-Q6 trigger, that Adorama presently bundles with the Orlit Rovelight RT610, controls my Rovelight, my Yongnuo RT speedlites and my Canon RT speedlites. So its a good idea to get that bundle if you decide to buy the Orlit.
besides the TR-Q6 trigger that i have already for a sony body, is there Youngnuo trigger that's compatible with a sony camera and would work with the speedlights as well? or would the tr q6 work independently with the speedlights without purchasing another trigger just for the speedlights.
Welcome back, Robert. It's been too long between videos.
FWIW: The annoying ratcheted stand mounts found on the Godox AD600, AD-H600B, AD-B2, and the myriad S-Type brackets can be easily converted to "clickless" operation by removing the two toothed plastic disks inside the mount and inserting one appropriately sized rubber washer or disk cut from rubber gasket material. For best hold, I did have to Dremel off the plastic ridge that keeps the toothed disks centered.
I've converted the mounts on multiple S-type brackets, an AD-H600B, and an AD-B2 thus far. The modified S-type brackets were tested with my 71" Rimelite deep parabolic softbox and there was no slipping. Note that the modification is completely reversible so don't lose the little toothed plastic disks.
Yea i was also thing about replacing them with a rubber washer the same size. Ill work on that after the weekend.
I really dig your videos. Very informative and it's cool to see you using equipment that I have already (Flashpoint/Cheetahstand) or can afford. I am really waiting on you to get the rotolights and test them.
I would also like to see the rotolight
I think Magmod got lost on UA-cam *waves*
I'm not sure if i'll get my hands on a Rotolight anytime soon, but I'll try to touch base with them again.
I hope so especially the aeos 2! It looks like it has to be really close to the subject!
I received my 2 Xplor's yesterday :) Thanks Adorama .
Exciting- Go crush some sunlight with them!
Going to test Jinbei next weekend, thanks for your video it was Great timing 😊👍🏻
Holy crap the orlit is only 250$ on adorama now!!!!
I'm already invested in godox. But dang.
Hey Robert, I have a quick question. Is there any way at all to trigger Godox And Orlit lights simultaneously? Whether you have to get a X1R receiver or trigger stack? I know it use to work with the older Rovelight 600. If you could test it I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Michael
Dude that new Jinbei 300Ws strobe looks like the BUSINESS!
As good as the AD 200 is I think Jinbei might have a winner.
The 600Ws light looks great too!
I don't think Godox understands how much we hate that plastic ratcheting crap.....FIX IT GODOX!
Great video Rob!
Which one, the Jinbei Mars 3 or another one?
Thank you for your review of these capable units. As a cross-platform user with both Canon and Nikon cameras, there is an advantage to having the Orlit Rovelight. On the unit itself, you can switch between Nikon, Canon, Sony and Fuji. That means one studio set up for all those brands (TTL for Nikon and Canon). All you need is a different transmitter. I have been a Canon shooter for years and recently added Nikon into my equipment stable. I purchased a TR-Q6N for Nikon and bam... studio lights for both brands. I use my ST-E3-RT to control the Rovelights with 3 Canon 430EX-RTs and 600EX-RTs when using Canon. Switch over and use the TR-Q6N on Nikon for the Orlit. I do agree that Orlit needs to bring back a speed light for Nikon to add flexibility.
Sorry, some of you will immediately point out that I could do the same by getting a different XPro transmitter for Godox to be cross-platform. My point is that the Orlit also integrates with existing Canon RT Speedlites for extra flexibility.
Great review! I shoot Canon and Sony and went with the Orlit Rovelight rt 610 ttl and I couldn't be happier (Adorama has had 2 crazy sales with them this year and I took advantage of both. I picked up 4 lights for less than the cost of an equivalent number canon 600 EX II RT's). Like yourself, I've found the color temp and power output to be very consistent. With the recent firmware upgrades the lights work flawlessly in HSS with both systems. I haven't had a chance to test the ttl yet. I have also found the battery life to be fantastic, I don't even drop below half charge on a location shoot. I'm also a big fan of the Cheetahstand quick softboxes, I know you like those as well. Keep up the good work!
david miller does it orlit rovelight work well with Sony? Do they offer a transmitter just for Sony?
david miller ... so... it’s been awhile... how are they now? I bought 2 601’s and both batteries release buttons immediately broke.
@@videovaulttv1 It works really well with my Sony A7riii, I can't speak to other models.
@@jasonsborean Funny you should ask that, I had two of my battery release buttons break today. It sucks because the batteries are still working flawlessly in terms of power. Now I have to gaff tape those two batteries to keep them in place. They still work that way. Every light system has weaknesses and these seem to have potential problems with the battery clip. I've read about people having problems with batteries even on high end models from Profoto and others. At least these batteries are a little less than half the price of those.
Awesome video. Great, clear recommendations at the end.
Did you see the Orlit RT 610 HSS TTL is on sale WITH the TR-Q6 trigger for only $449 ?? Sound like a great deal to me.
Shout out to the D750. I’m still using one as well
3 years old and I still feel like it's the best bang/buck.
Robert Hall Photography recently I’ve been using it 1st over my d810
Thanks for the info Adorama is having a rebate on both :)
Good review. But because I shoot Canon and (predominantly) Panasonic, the Godox ecosystem suits me better - especially those tasty AD200s
I'm a canon shooter and i was soo interested in this light , but I couldn't find any good/in-depth reviews. Ultimately,I went for the flashpoint
Not much given up either way! Hope you're enjoying the Xplor!
I know this is a bit late to comment to this video, but I'm curious, Robert Hall or anyone else who may have tried: How well do the Orlit Rovelight strobes work with the low profile Bowens mounts (such as from Cheetahstand)? The strobe tubes seem to stick out even less than the Godox AD600 strobes that the low profile mount is designed for, so it seems like it would be even more beneficial so long as they work.
More videos on the Orlit are definitely needed...Is it possible to switch from TTL mode to Manual mode with no change in the exposure? (Just like it’s possible with the profoto air remote.)
I have the xplor but I'm really excited about Orlit and the new KWIK series that's about the release. Most flashpoint studio strobes are just plain ugly and those things are sexy lol
I can’t seem to get the Rovelight 610 transmitter to go into ‘M’ mode. Pressing the buttons do nothing. I’d like to shoot in manual over TTL. Also, when in TTL, why doesn’t the back of the Rovelight change as I change the power on the transmitter?
Love your lighting reviews. I'm still more than happy with Godox's system, the AD600 in particular. I use the single extension on my AD600 making it really easy to mount my strobe high up on a boom arm with no weight concerns. Good to see alternatives out there however, keeps Godox on their toes. Any chance you'll be reviewing the Interfit Honeybadgers at some point?
That extension head option makes a massive difference for people who are using them outdoors. I find it very scary to walk away from either of these when they are on top of a stand (even a C stand with a big enough softbox). The remote heads make them much more useable with or without an assistant.
Hi Robert. I use Fujifilm. I want HSS but I don't care about TTL. Do the cheaper Orlit 601 or the Xplore 600 No-TTL works with HSS in Fuji?
Yes you can use the 601 with the TR-Q6 for Fuji to get HSS without paying for TTL
I just purchased a Neewer Vision5 400W TTL for CANON and will receive it tomorrow, after a little more research I found the Orlit RT601 with a trigger for about the same price on Adorama. Seriously considering return the Vision5 and going with the Orlit, The main differences being 400Ws vs 500Ws and no TTL for the Orlit (which doesn't bother me). The Orlit also comes with a case where the Vision does not. I shoot primarily real estate but am venturing towards portraits.... Any thoughts on this?
I was wondering if both explor 600 and Rovelight can use same triger at same time
no.
Olympus shooter here... is there a manual non-TTL trigger for all of us non-Canikon shooters out there? I want to invest on this system now that is affordable. Price, look, trigger, modeling light are all better than the Flashpoint (Godox) system.
Good video!
Thank you!
Since this video was posted over a year ago, would you still recommend this monolight? I currently have 2 canon 600ex-ii-rt. I'd like to have an outdoor strobe. I read the comments and it seems like I can use it with the Canon ST-E3-RT. What I'm asking is, have there been any new monolights released since the time of this upload that also work with the Canon RT system?
Hey Robert, thanks for the video. I'm on the verge of ordering the explor 600 but thinking of holding off for the new version, have you heard anything about when they look to release that?
I haven’t heard a hard release date yet and I still don’t have one in my hands so it’s still a ways out.
When trying to figure out an affordable fast Stobe to get for freezing action I found that the ORLIT lists there duration as t.5 and not a t.1... Where does that really leave it in comparison to say a E640? Is it the best budget option for speed? Which is faster? Godox/Flashpoint or the Orlit?
As a general rule, you can multiply the the t.5 by 3 to get a t.1 estimate.
The bigger issue is that you'd have to know how output compares to really make a judgement about which offers shorter durations.
Adorama says the 601 is 500WS the 610 is 600WS. Is this a mistake or accurate?
Finally, thank you so much for these detailed information on these 2 lights, I'm still struggling to choose which one to go since the Orlit RT610 has freeze mode for my "action portrait photos" while the Xplor 600 doesn't, but can I get the same "freeze mode" result if I use a faster shutter speed with HSS on Xplor 600?
You can freeze action using HSS and fast shutter speed as well, but it’s always more capable and efficient to use a short flash duration. If ambient light is not affecting your photo, then you can basically consider the flash duration your shutter speed. So a 1/19000 flash duration is faster than any HSS + high shutter speed can achieve. Both have their applications depending on the environment you are shooting in
Also, the Xplor is no slouch, with a 1/10,000 lowest flash duration. For most purposes in action sports they would achieve similar results. I would be willing to bet the next Xplor update (due first quarter of 2018) will likely have a freeze mode.
Robert Hall Photography the specs say they are IGBT... but they also say the duration is t.5 and not t.1. Is ‘freeze’ mode 1/19000 in t.1?
Hey Robert, thanks for the video! I'm having inconsistencies with my Orlit RT 610! When I put it in M mode, it will randomly go back to a higher-power setting and blowout the image. I also can't get the light to not blowout images when in TTL mode, I'll put the trigger at -3 stops but it's still flashing at a really high power. Hoping you have any insight, it's tough to find any support for this product.
Did the update ever solve your problem?
Can you use the Flashpoint R2 transmitter as studio strobe with the Rovelight? It might be a good short term way to get into the Rovelight system. Right now, the Rovelight is $450 while the Xplor is $750... Is it worth the $300 difference?
No and...it depends.
$300 means different things to different people. I’d still buy the Xplor myself, because there is no speedlight for my camera brand, and I like the evolv that much better than the rover.
Great review. Robert do you know if you can get exposure in ttl then switch to manual and have the same power setting?
That would be the TCM function on Pro models of Godox lighting. XPro trigger, AD600 pro, AD400 pro.
Robert, Great comparison - Thank you. Would you recommend the Godox ad200 or the orlit rt 610 for someone with no lights in either system and shooting Sony mirrorless system. I have a Sony speedlight, but want to expand wireless ttl hhs photography outside. Any guidance you could provide would be appreciate and keep up the great videos. Thank you.
Outdoors I LOVE the AD200 + AD-B2. When you combine 2 AD-200's you are have almost the same power as the AD600 / orlit 610. And when you don't need the power, you have two lights. And, if you want to add more speedlites, Godox makes them for Sony but there isn't currently an option with the Orlit.
Thank you!!!!
does this work for sony a7rii
Will you review the ad600 Pro?
Can you control the Orlit RoveLight RT 610 with a Yongnuo YN 600 EX-RT ii?
I’ve read yes and no from people, there’s some comments regarding it (including the pinned comment here and it seems it’s based on the firmware. I’ve never tried it myself.
For the budget modes folks I think the orlit system saves you a few hundred bucks. Thinking about switching out my elinchrom for one of these systems.... Just not sure which way to go 🙁
ORLIT RoveLight RT610 bundle looks way better physically and is $100 cheaper than the Xplor 600. It's a no brainer for me.
They came down in price significantly with recent promotions too. For Canon users I think it’s a killer deal, but for other systems it’s problematic until they rebuild the ecosystem which is something Jinbei is currently addressing I believe.
Robert Hall Photography Nice cause I'm picking up the A7iii soon. I don't want to spend $750 on 1 light. Lol
Robert Hall Photography don't the rovelight work well with Sony now with the Sony transmitter for it?
It works well just between those two devices. My point is regarding the "system". There is a Canon compatible speedlite meant to work with the Orlit, but currently no speedlite for Nikon or Sony.
Robert Hall Photography ok that makes sense
I bought one and return it because of the cheap plastic use for the dial which broke on arrival. Other than that it works great! Who else bought one and the dial nob is loose or broke on them?
Wow, really? I just gave mine an exaggerated wiggle and it seems strong.
Can i use the orlit with a sony body?
Yes they have a Sony trigger, but there is no flash to be used in conjunction with it.
will the ttl work with pocket wizard on canon anyone knows?
no.
Hello, Can you talk about Jinbei HD610 vs Godox AD600 PRO ??? Im thinking this problem. Thank you. which should i buy ?
How can you see the LCD power setting when you want the light to come from above? I would never buy a back LCD but only one on the side
The whole purpose of these lights with full radio control integrated is that you don't have to touch or see the LCD on the strobe.