Mooney M20c - Flight and Pilot Interview
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- We meet Mike and his 1963 Mooney M20c and take it up in the air for a test flight!
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OMG! I got my complex endorsement in this plane. Not the same model, the same plane. I think I got 25 - 30 hours in it. Knew the original owner. It is a very small world.
Very cool!
hah thats amazing..... six degrees of separation.
Lucky you, such a sexy plane
Like the new definition for GUMPS 😁 Make sure that gear is down.
@Beckett Romeo www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/mzs6rt/i_hate_to_interrupt_the_mass_posting_of_the/
2:55 "With the numbers that I ran, it made more sense to NOT get into a partnership..." 3:12 "So I started looking, and a partnership 25 mins. from my house..." That made perfect sense, and it was even at his second most desirable airport. It doesn't appear that emotions had anything to do with that decision.
It’s a bit late 4 years later, but as I understood him he bought it form a partnership for him self. Or is my English just this bad?
He also said that he planned on flying a lot. Depending on how much is "a lot", then partnership might indeed be completely out the window no matter the other circumstances.
7:40 - The best part of this awesome video! That gear retraction...wow!
I love my MooneyM20c Ranger. Its a awesome plane all the way around. Thanks for sharing!
My dad had a Mooney, just like that one... used to take me up as a kid. I loved it.
I'm gratified to hear both of you talk about anchoring your hand before touching the avionics. Every pilot learns this on his own, and you can tell a pilot even in a car, because the habit carries over.
Back in the mid-1960s, I joined a flying club that had a 1965 M20C/Mark 21. Although it was an M20C as is the above 1963 model, it had a rectangular rear window and the "positive control" single-axis autopilot. Still had the manual gear lever. As I recall, it had a true airspeed of 165 mph (about 145k) at 75% power at altitude. Soon thereafter, we traded it for a new 1967 M20F/Executive 21 (about $20K!!), with the longer cabin, 200 hp, and the ram-air "Power Boost" feature for more MP at altitude. Great planes. as long as your nailed your approach speed correctly on final.
Those manual flaps and gear are awesome. Seems much better than flipping a switch.
The C is my all-time favorite!
A bone stock naturally aspirated and carb'ed Lycosaurus with constant speed mated to a simple airframe with retracts should make a great, reliable travel steed.
The simple airframe of the C can be "pimped" with the one-piece aero windshield and "speed mods" to decrease fuel burn in cruise. The 201-cowling should go on with some technical modification (not worthwhile for retrofitting existing C airframes). Throw in a glass cockpit and you're in the 21st century.
I really don't understand why Mooney never made an entry-level version like that based on the "short", "mechanical" Mooney. My gut feeling (caution! no research on this!) tells me, such a model should be possible for a $200k price tag. Increasing the total numbers produced based on the same general architecture as their "higher-tier" models would have undoubtedly improved overall profitability.
Good looking C model. I enjoy my G I’ve had for 16 years. KPBF. Thanks for sharing. 👍
That aircraft is a dream. I'm in a constant battle trying to justify one. It's the TCO vs. how often I have the time to fly... Thanks for the video, and congrats to Mike; he found a beautiful example of a 20C.
Enjoyed the Mooney trip as it brought back memories of Carpenter Airport in the Steele Creek Community outside of Charlotte, NC. My Dad was a CFI there and flew me and some of his students in a Mooney M20c there. That Mooney was brand new and smelled like a new car inside, had curtains on the rear windows, and I was very familiar with the "Johnson Bar" watching my Dad stow the gear after takeoff. Not long after, a male student landed with the gear up, ( I got slide photos my Dad took of it ) it bounced and screeched metal down the runway for hundreds of yards, but no fire or injuries. I do remember the pilot had "pissed himself" as he shakily got out of the aircraft.
Wear your shoulder harness. For s standardization instructor, that sticks out like a sore thumb. Beautiful airplane.
I had the joy of flying in a 65 Mooney 20. It was wonderful. I was impressed with how advanced it was for such an old girl.
I grew up in the back seat of an E with the Johnson bar landing gear. I'll be looking for an early M-20F with a Johnson bar someday.
I never use flaps in my 62 m20c
Keeps things simple and dramatically minimizes the need to trim the plane from liftoff to touchdown
Great job in the video!
Talk about bringing back memories, I had a Mooney Super 21 Forty-five plus years ago. Loved it.
I drive by the Mooney factory in Kerrville all the time!! I've always wanted to go check it out because I see it open sometimes.
Hey Bobby, Glad to see the Doodles back in the air, loved the Mooney. so sorry to hear about Mav.
Bobby, great to see you be able to do a new episode while you were in town. As always very informative and inspiring. Also very sorry about Maverick He was a great guy.
Mike, you have a fantastic looking Mooney there. The paint job is first rate and the whole plane looks well maintained. I never was that much of a fan of Mooneys but that one I really like.
Awesome vid Bob, thank you. Super great with the multiple cams! Excellent editing!
The comms in this video are excellent!!
Thanks for doing this video - I've been looking at buying one of these.
Loved the manual gear on the Mooney, positive system with very little chance for unwanted retraction. I drove an M20E in the 70's out of Wenatchee, WA.
Great video! I'd love to see a Bellanca Super Viking review.
Both guys matched their shirt with their sunglasses.........haha. Awesome video!
Love the simplicity of the gear! Awesome!
Mike a good review. I like your Gulfstream sweater!
Great video I felt like I was back in my Mooney M20B difference was she also had the manual flaps.
👍 Glad to see u back again w/another interesting episode. Keep'em coming, Bobby. 👏😀✝⚜☮🇺🇸
Way back in the 70's, I'd fly with a Pal in his Mooney. Had the all-wood wing, but a replacement metal tail! Was an absolute delight!
I wish I owned one now!
Fast, inexpensive and a capable traveler.
Sad to hear Mooney has shut down yet again. I have never been able to understand how such a fine aircraft could be so well built, so well liked and yet not be able to stay afloat financially. Lets hope they can get it together again one of these days. Thanks Bobby!
Preston Miller New they are expensive, and if you’re going to spend that much most people would rather have a Cirrus. Cirrus still has great performance, fixed gear, a HUGE cabin, and of course the parachute.
I think Mooney would have had a shot if they’d been able to get a parachute in the new ones.
This was a great blast from the past for me. My brother had a '57 when I was young teen and he'd take me on flights when he visited. I always remembered that manual landing gear and how fast the gear was.
Old Bellanca Pilot, likes this. Love the gear mechanism ! Good efficency. When you grew up flying a Luscombe, only a few well balanced and sensitive airplanes really feel right.. Cruisaire was one.. M-20 looks like another. Typical cold clear and bumpy winter day.
I remember my dad having this airplane, Brand new when I was 5 years old, flew everywhere, like a family car.
Mooney's are awesome! I'm glad I found your channel -you do a great job!
My man went from 0-100 when he said he’s a FI for the 777
Still a cool job, don’t be a hater
FRIENDHORATIO1 that’s not the reply that came up in my notifications 😂
In 1963 I flew our club 1962 C nonstop from STL to LLY which was then Cameron Airpark. I flew at 11.5k at 18" and 1800 rpm. TAS was 140 mph. It was CAVU all the way with zero wind component. Flight time was 6 hrs. For the 834 am trip. I put 36 gal into the 48 gallon tanks. Consumption was 6 gph so I had 2 hrs. Reserve. I was alone but that is phenomenal economy. I retired a long time ago from Eastern Air Lines but that trip remained the longest flight I ever had as a crew member. The next longest was a 5:15 JFK MEX as 1st O on a L1011.
Thanks for making videos again!!!
I own and fly an Experimental Amateur Built plane. I've owned 2. I greatly appreciate the many benefits of owning E-A/B but if I ever went Certified, it would probably be a Mooney.
the Mooney company is actually back up and running but they don't know what they wanna make next, some rumors of a new trainer have come up but that's just speculation
Same employees ,designers and craftsman? Do the Chinese still own it?
always like the Mooneys with the Johnson bar gear handle. New Mooney drivers had a bobble on take off when retracting the gear, They would pull on the yoke the same time as the gear operation! Great airplanes!
Wonderful plane and video! Great engineering on that gear!
Anyone remember going to the Abbotsford BC airshow? Great memories!!
1963 that's a very good year , love the Money!
My 1967 Lopresti cowled M20F would rock along all day at 158-160kts sipping 10gph all on 200hp. Tight cabin but what a great flyer.
Nice video Bobby! Always good to see you back in the air!
The Johnson bar gear is awesome. It does not have all the complexities of hydraulic or electric. Less $$$
“Birds!”... isn’t a flying doodles video if there aren’t birds somewhere judging by the last 3 videos I’ve watched. Really, seriously hoping to catch you at Oshkosh this year (2021 baby!). Love the content. Keep it up!!
I have a 1969 Mooney M20C with electric flaps and gear. Love flying it, but find annuals too expensive and not many mechanics want to touch it. Flying it has been a joy.
The step! You didn't mention the step that retracts automatically when you start the plane. That is one of the coolest features of these planes!
I like Mooney's. Even though I am not a pilot just a truck driver, but I am not surprised they went out of business. They really needed to change with the market to stay competitive. Meaning they needed a variety of turbo props added to their fleet of sales, including still keeping their current planes. Including making some planes like the beachcraft C-90...
Yo Doodle! What's up with the beard and the white shades? LOL! I love this plane and I could fit just nicely in it. The retractable landing gear came up surprisingly quick and 150 knots at 10 gallons an hour would be no problem with my plans for any future long range flights. I think you have a most phenomenal airplane and you're one lucky dude. At $100 an hour maintenance it would be the perfect choice for me and I wish I could afford one. Thanks again for the great post Doodles!
AWesome video bobby. LOve this airplane, fast and simple.
I found one of these on ebay... I know that sounds questionable but I can't stop looking at it.
Thanks for taking us along Bobby!
Awesome, good looking aeroplane.
One good thing about the Mooneys, they don’t crumple on you. Flying around in a forty plus year plane that may have had some hard landings you could be the Spam in the can. Not in a Mooney.
Awesome video dude! Keep up the great work.
So, I have the same hair color, haircut, sideburn length, wear those same sun glasses and also own a Mooney M20C out of Texas (KGTU). I hope that guy isn’t also a bank robber or I might get falsely accused!
the mooney was used in he olden days for "advanced" aircraft at ERAU!
1963 was a great year , the year I was born !!
I was thinking....I recognize that voice. I watch you sail... and now fly too.
nice flight
Also my favourite plane !
Nice video ! Very nice plane !
Greetings from Montréal YUL !
6:35. The Cirrus has a castering nose gear, not a "direct steering linkage".
Very nice video.
This has the windshield speed mod. Makes for fun panel work…
insurance and lawsuits are killing G/A. I read of one lawsuit from early 80's were a widow sued Cessna because the seat belts did not keep her husband alive in a plane crash. He had slammed into the side of a mountain at 125 knots at night. I was talking to a former Beach test pilot. He said in the 60's and 70's insurance cost was about $5 per Bonanza. By 1980 it had jumped to $30K per plane.
(Q) Why do lawyers never get attacked by sharks when swimming in the ocean?
(A) Professional courtesy.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman LMBAO!
It's becoming the same in the UK, I'm all for safety and being covered. But law? It's only for the rich!
A solicitor said to me once - when I challenged his bill (he had an undeclared relationship with the opposing law firm and he was being ambiguous with his invoice pricing vs his quotation) - "the thing is that being a law firm or solicitor is basically an adversarial role". I then pointed to his letter head which stated that his was an "expert in dispute resolution", hence our engaging him. I then rattled off aspects of the Trade Description Act too. That, with the other aspects I'd pointed out, knocked £600 off of the bill - AND he was still making money. The useless @#!%$# !
@@musoseven8218 >>> 😊
Are your cameras on loose mount or what? The effect of plane movement is very realistic. I get my flight time going along with you guys!
I used to own a plane and a hanger in Mesquite before it was controlled. I feel old.
1963 ? You have got to be kidding. That is before the Beetles got here...
I own a 1965 C model myself and I would never trade it for any other.
Those big birds on approach are most likely Pelicans. big white black in the wing tips
Just about 8 hangars from one of the most unique homebuilts ever to fly.
Defiant
Lucky you in a Mooney. Great video.
Delta shutdown their 777. Wonder if that affected him. Cool plane.
I’m not at delta but I did get displaced off the triple in late summer to the Airbus then bid 737 permanently after 6 years teaching the 777.
Cool video and cool plane!
It would be cool to see you fly with 310 Pilot Kevin and Jamie
Great looking airplane!!
Wish you had filmed the gear process. Have always been curious about that. Nice video
I should have done a go-around for him to film it. I regret no doing that to show people as I felt exactly like you before I flew one.
Nice. Love Mooneys. It is a 55 (57 actually) year old airplane actually, I think you said "45". No big deal ;-)
You're a good dude Bobby!
I like Mooney's, except for the backwards tail fin.
In a Cessna you can't see out the side windows without crouching down, the top of the window is below eye level. But not on the Mooney, an advantage of a low wing.
Mike, Great Looking Mooney! You need to tell me about it back at the 777 schoolhouse.
Bobby, keep these coming. I enjoy both of the Doodles channels.
That was a very cool flight, thank you very much! That gear is way fast. How low do you have to get before the gear horn will go off?
My father belonged to a flying club and they had a Mooney M20C 1962 I thought. I was taught how to land it in case for whatever reason my father could not. I had to go around on my first try as the Mooney is so close to the ground it tries to float and I was running out of runway ha ha. It's a Great airplane I remember this one indicated 160 knots 8000 ft. at cruising speed.
man thats is nice . love the colour fast machine
Awesome, been waiting for a Mooney M20C. Wait, aren't you supposed to be sailing right now?
Where did Bobby learn to fly? I saw his buddy Travis's Army Squadron t-shirt so maybe in the Army?
excellent video-
Excellent video!
I heard Trinidad on short final.....yes, do a Trinidad.
Mooney Pilot: on those high CHTs, you might want to check your fuel flows. Many A&Ps set the fuel flows below redline, "just to be safe", but that's a mistake- redline fuel flow at sea level should be considered a MINIMUM flow. Increasing your flow by 1/2 to 1 GPH should bring down your temps quite a bit, if set too low.
Long story short, we needed a carb overhaul bad. Runs way cool now.
@@AlwaysBringASwimsuit Great!
@@AlwaysBringASwimsuit Glad to hear it. Post the long story :-).
Nice aircraft !
That's pretty cool that you got to fly with Zach Galifianakis
Come back to Indonesia and i will take you up in a Super Puma ..show you how we put out the forest fires :)
I wish people would start looking at the data rather than feeding the myth, the Mooney M20C has a bigger cabin than most comparables. PERIOD! It has more width than the 206 and 210 for gosh sakes!!! Can you tell it bothers me?? Lol
The Cessna 150 is the tightest with 38 inches/96 cm.
The Cessna 172 and 152 according to Cessna’s website is 40 inches / 102 cm wide.
The Grumman AA5 is 41 inches / 104 cm wide.
The Cessna 182, PA28 and Bonanzas have 42 inch/107 cm cabin widths
The Cessna 206/210 has 43 inches/109 cm
The Mooney cabin is 43.5 inches/110 cm wide.