I have often wondered about the psychology of motivations around adherence to and participation within a religious group and how this may function as a source of supply and validation for a narcissist. I have a Christian fundamentalist acquaintance where this seems to be the case. When I look at the methods and techniques used, one of the key elements of preachers approach is to cajole people by telling them how important and precious THEY are. That God has a plan for THEM. In the mind of God YOU are special and so on. There seems to be an inherent, strong and deliberate reward component being projected that would gratify and hook a narcissistic personality. Then there is the music, group hugging and singing and the " love bombing " by the group directing their attention to new recruits that appears to be highly seductive to a narcissistic personality. They are it seems not only attracted at the entry level but seem to manifest further up the chain as preachers where they are the focus of attention and even adulation, and shamelessly make demands of others that are self serving and self aggrandising. This person I know seems to be energised by this, and feed off of the group atmosphere that is created in quite a selfish way. The fundamentalists, in contrast to more inwardly reflective self examining models of religious practice are very extroverted and emotionally expressive. Cultivating and rewarding what comes naturally to narcissists. Also, he is quick to lay claim to being right and seeking to correct and admonish those who do not subscribe to his view. He appears to "use" the phenomena as a self validating crutch and podium from which to exhort his self importance. Claiming a close relationship with " God " also seems to have the effect of neutralising the need to compete with a hierarchy of people as he's already occupying the top floor, right next to " the big guy ". ........ supply ?
I don't understand how is casual sex narcissistic because narcissism has increased but centuries ago having multiple lovers and having sex with prostitutes wasn't narcissistic? A very interesting conversation as usual. I hope we get to see the whole video if possible.
Sufferers of NPD still try to reach out to others. But the other within them is dead and therefore their connection is severed. So they can only connect with the self and therefore must force others into the self. Others can only be perceived through the self and as part of the self. So others must then be ruled because if they are not they will become invisible and once the others begin to become invisible they are alone again. The reason shame is so difficult to cope with is because it is the fear of deserving to be treated like an object. The ultimate form of being left alone.
This is in the Bible as Diotrephes. It is warned from the Bible to stay away from (Narcissism)... Unhealthy Narcissism; that is! It is in the Bible about staying celibate until you marry. Do not covet. When we sleep around we are bonded w/ the other person. It is only one man one woman....not several people! However; we still do these things...just have to repent and make changes.
You are right on point soul ties are made and cannot be broken unless by Yah or the holy spirit. A soul tie to a evil person is a nasty thing. Also the evil spirits attached to a person can jump through the soul tie connected.
I have often wondered about the psychology of motivations around adherence to and participation within a religious group and how this may function as a source of supply and validation for a narcissist.
I have a Christian fundamentalist acquaintance where this seems to be the case. When I look at the methods and techniques used, one of the key elements of preachers approach is to cajole people by telling them how important and precious THEY are. That God has a plan for THEM. In the mind of God YOU are special and so on.
There seems to be an inherent, strong and deliberate reward component being projected that would gratify and hook a narcissistic personality. Then there is the music, group hugging and singing and the " love bombing " by the group directing their attention to new recruits that appears to be highly seductive to a narcissistic personality.
They are it seems not only attracted at the entry level but seem to manifest further up the chain as preachers where they are the focus of attention and even adulation, and shamelessly make demands of others that are self serving and self aggrandising.
This person I know seems to be energised by this, and feed off of the group atmosphere that is created in quite a selfish way.
The fundamentalists, in contrast to more inwardly reflective self examining models of religious practice are very extroverted and emotionally expressive. Cultivating and rewarding what comes naturally to narcissists. Also, he is quick to lay claim to being right and seeking to correct and admonish those who do not subscribe to his view. He appears to "use" the phenomena as a self validating crutch and podium from which to exhort his self importance.
Claiming a close relationship with " God " also seems to have the effect of neutralising the need to compete with a hierarchy of people as he's already occupying the top floor, right next to " the big guy ".
........ supply ?
Narcissism and Religion
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I don't understand how is casual sex narcissistic because narcissism has increased but centuries ago having multiple lovers and having sex with prostitutes wasn't narcissistic?
A very interesting conversation as usual. I hope we get to see the whole video if possible.
Sufferers of NPD still try to reach out to others.
But the other within them is dead and therefore their connection is severed.
So they can only connect with the self and therefore must force others into the self. Others can only be perceived through the self and as part of the self.
So others must then be ruled because if they are not they will become invisible and once the others begin to become invisible they are alone again.
The reason shame is so difficult to cope with is because it is the fear of deserving to be treated like an object. The ultimate form of being left alone.
This is in the Bible as Diotrephes.
It is warned from the Bible to stay away from (Narcissism)...
Unhealthy Narcissism; that is!
It is in the Bible about staying celibate until you marry.
Do not covet.
When we sleep around we are bonded w/ the other person.
It is only one man one woman....not several people!
However; we still do these things...just have to repent and make changes.
You are right on point soul ties are made and cannot be broken unless by Yah or the holy spirit. A soul tie to a evil person is a nasty thing. Also the evil spirits attached to a person can jump through the soul tie connected.
how many one nighters have you had recently?
the suppression part in the west is from Christianity's overlay of culture, no?
Definitely
9:46 - "Woke up by a girl I don't even know her name"