Very possibly. Carmichael's father had served in the Great War (Medical Officer), and he himself was a veteran of Normandy and the advance to the Rhine. Both would have seen shell-shock at first hand.
I spotted your comment and smiled when reading it. Ian Carmichael was an accomplished pianist and truly wizard on the saxophone. Yes, of course he 'mimes' in the Lord Peter series but he was a wonderful musician.
is really astonishing when film and TV companies have spent so much on getting everything right, but still take no notice of what the people playing musicians are doing. Oddly enough, the exploitation film maker Jess Franco quite often gets this right, which is amazing, considering the budgets he was working with. There's an amazing scene in one of his films, in which he is playing alongside Manfred Mann; and they really are playing as well..
@@oliverclothesoff5397 Just so sad that Mr Carmichael has gone from our world. I wished that he'd done more of the books though i believe that he'd narrated all of them for radio. His dear 'wife' is still with us but his devoted 'butler' has passed away. We are all here such a short time......
I just like the quaint and subtle nuances of a gentleman showing feeling along with a brut of a gal (it's the way I view my grandparents) when it comes to being sleuths and bloodhounds-- salt & pepper. Thank you so very much for posting this in a series linked together, as well. (Sub)
God, it's terrible, all those lads who went off to fight in the Great War and came back total mental and physical wrecks like poor George (and Lord Peter too for that matter). And the worst part is that the bloody government did NOTHING for them afterwards. They should have been fêted as heroes and granted a HUGE pension.
Muck006 How CAN you place "gay, trans, female or non-White" all in a row, in that particular order?! Females make up more than half the world's entire population, the others are real minorities. Furthermore, I think you do feminists a disservice. They aren't all nuts.
"Todays feminists and SJWs (and the Antifa communists) are intent on throwing away respect for any achievements" --- You've just made that up. Bare-faced invention.
They were just cannon fodder. One German officer was shocked when he saw the men and their horses being sent directly into the German machine gun fire.
That's not the terrible part. When they were sent during WW1, nobody really knew what they were sending them into, because it was a completely new scenario; and nobody really knew anything about 'shell shock' or ptsd as it is now, even though there are mentions of it as far back as Ancient Greece. The terrible part is that the same thing happens now, and they get treated the same way, by so, so many when they return. But we do know.
@@debbielough7754 It's terrible. In the past, it was a way a government got rid of the poor(er) in society. In England, sometimes the returning soldiers would be housed on river barges and once in awhile, one would catch fire. The conditions in the trenches was horrific. There was no social media back then and family members wouldn't know what their sons would be suffering.
How nice to see John Quentin in this.....quite ironic as he was effectively Bertie Wooster in the commercials for Croft Original sherry.....of course Ian Carmichael officially played Bertie Wooster for real in programmes!
Edward Petherbridge, hope the spelling is correct, was Sir Peter in the first videos I watched and found him so centered and carried an air of quiet strength and very intellectual. This Sir Peter plays the role quite different and more robust middle class as the Brits would say, Thank you for posting this, Lord Peter Wimsey is great treat
Both are interesting and entertaning in their own way. I loved the episodes with Harriet Vane in them - very romantic to se our hero wooing her -, but these others are also funny and smart.
Please. Lord Peter. Sir Peter would be something quite different. Petherbridge is closer in appearance, and the right age, but as long as I close my eyes, Carmichael is wimsier.
The character changed over the course of the series. When we meet him, he's somewhat flighty and irresponsible, still troubled and recovering by episodes of PTSD. His interest in solving murders comes about because he's very wealthy and bored. He's the second son, doesn't expect to inherit the his father's title because his brother has a nephew and can afford to indulge his whims. But, by the time we see him and Harriet married in Busman's Honeymoon, he's much more grounded. Now when he's brought into a case he is driven to discover who the murderer is and see justice done even though it grieved him to know the murderer faced hanging. The character aged and, during his relationship with Harriet Vane, 'grew up'. Which makes him all the more interesting. Edward Petherbridge carries the transition of the last three TV films off very well. And though we only have the audible book for Busman's Honeymoon your imagination can fill in how would appear if only they had presented it on film. Wonderful character and great cast. I loved Ian Carmichael and Edward Petherbridge in the role.
@@nancycrayton2738 The character does deepen over the course of several books, at first Sayers was just creating a mystery story. Over time, she gave Peter more depth, suggested that under his frivolous manner he was badly shaken by his war experiences and that he detected out of a desire to help people rather than out of boredom
@shirley: It's Lord Peter, not Sir Peter. Peter's the younger son of a duke and therefore not a peer. Nor is he a baronet (hereditary title) or a knight (a man knighted by the British monarch).
12:08 *Sanlucar de Barrameda* -- I first saw this nearly fifty years ago. A few years later, I had a very memorable dinner sitting in a seaside restaurant in Sanlucar, looking out over the Atlantic from the port Magellen set out from on his last voyage.
I think both Carmichael and Petherbridge do a fine job. They are different, that's all. Seems like fictional characters can have several interpretations and stay true to the story.
Spoken by a person who will, like all of us, be geezers ourselves someday. And might want a little more respect. Noticing that the grandsons are only interested in how much money they might get. Not endearing.
@lou That's the thing about being young. It might as well be a different nationality or species. The young always look at the old as if they have some particularly disgraceful disease, that they themselves are immune to. It isn't until you start to become old for instance that you start regretting how condescending you were to your parents, or your own children start to treat you the same way. Don't worry. Payback, alas, is coming for the young, lol. They just don't realize it yet. Those making fun of geezers today, are the geezers of tomorrow, and karma is not kind.
Anna Cropper, who plays the artistic niece, also played the widow of a condemned man in Inspector Wexford 'A new lease of death'. Anna has exactly the same hairdo and face in both roles!
My very much missed mum saw him where she worked at the original Waterers nursery and garden centre in the early 70s. Apparently he was a very much reserved in his public demeanour but still polite and gentlemanly. Very much old-school.
Oh my. How sleuths and guests in British mysteries love their sherry. And seemingly lots of it. But in American detective circles, re Bosch, it's "Do you want a beer?" Although I do recall Morse too would tip a pint. Or five.
When O was a little girl, my grandpapa belonged to the Cosmos Club. In those days, women were not allowed to walk into the front door, being required to enter via the Ladies' Entrance, and women were not allowed upstairs to see the library, unless there was a ball being given in the ballroom on the second floor. I went back to visit the Cosmos Club once as an adult, having joined a ladies' public speaking club that occasionally has a luncheon meeting and lecture at the Cosmos Club. Nowadays, they have gotten rid of that front door nonsense, and if you stop in to peek into the library, that really is paneled like the library in a Harvard House, you are likely to see a nine year old child sitting at one of the fancy desks, not dressed to the teeth in puffed sleeves and a girlish dress and matching ribbons on her pigtails, as my mother dressed me whenever I would meet my Grandfather there, but merely wearing jeans and a T-shirt, doing her homework as she waits for a family member in this modern generation.
😎😳Great story, let's hear it for humane behaviour for all humanity in big ways and small, every day in all way untill it comes some what naturally and then naturally...😊😎
@@polemeros My grandfather didn't think so. He was one of the members who worked for change, tapping an African American candidate for membership who was so well qualified that he couldn't possibly be turned down (in the wake of his friend Carl Rowan not getting in, due to racism) and I believe he may have been behind the change that got rid of the no-women-through-the-front-door nonsense...that change took place between the summer when I turned ten years old and the Christmas a year and a half later. Can you imagine having to tell your beloved brilliant ten year old granddaughter, the apple of your eye, who reads six years above grade level and who looks exactly like her grandmother, the love of your life...that she is NOT Good Enough to come in through the front door? Of course he changed that rule, just as he made the racial bar fall at the Cosmos Club, out of anger that they had snubbed his friend, Carl Rowan! When my grandfather wanted to change things, he didn't yammer on about it...he simply made it happen. He and Joe Kennedy, Sr., got FDR on the ballot in '32, working together, though of course there were many others who also made important contributions to the 1932 campaign. But when my grandfather wanted something to happen...it often did happen. He was good at that. I wish he'd lived long enough for me to have learned skills from him. I remember him and I miss him, but he passed away while I was still too young to have learned from him.
@@nicholasalexander4743 Constitutional democracies are only a little bit different from constitutional monarchies, especially compared to the default forms of government, namely totalitarian autocracies and failed warlord states....
@@polemeros Yes, Sayers' creation had a sad side but alos a happy frivolling side. Harriet Walter is always glum and the whole tenor of the show has changed
@@glen7318 You missed the point of the remark then ... because it is included to show how desperate and BROKE the person is ... explaining why he is a potential suspect.
And that, of course, is why almost all wills nowadays include a 30-day survival clause, to make sure that this kind of problem doesn't occur (although sometimes there are difficulties even with this clause).
@big bear fuzzums: Are u REALLY as stupid and idiotic as ur comment makes u out to be? Or do u have Alzheimer’s or suffer from major memory loss? U conveniently seem to forget that nixon pledged to end the war-just didn’t say how long it wd. take. Do u remember a guy named Reagan, an actor turned President? I believe his successor was a Bush....but the smart one. And we had eight years of his, the not very bright one. Yes, there were Democratic Presidents-Carter, Clinton and Obama whom u likely despise more than any President bcoz, like the current occupant of our beautiful White House, ur probably a closet or not so closeted racist. Don’t dare to blame our vets treatment only on the Democrats u hate-mongering bigot.
The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club (1972) - 8.2 When one of the members of the Bellona Club passes away, Lord Wimsey is brought in to determine the time of death for testamentary purposes.
I love the way the "poor" husband and wife describe themselves as desperate. Yet they're both earning money, and earning more than the millions of working class people, who were also gassed, shot, & traumatized in WW1. They're SO strapped for cash that they have a BAD servant. Oh dear. Because filling the coal bucket themselves is too impossible. It reminds me of another of Lincoln's quips. He met some puffed up military bod, Lincoln commented that he (Lincoln) needed to blacken his boots as they were scuffed. The puffy guy said, "I never blacken my own boots." in a snotty tone. Lincoln replied, "Whose boots do you blacken?"
George does not want to do housework because he's not brought up to it and he is mentally shaken up by the war. Sheila has a full time job and has heart troulble, so relying on not very good servants, who might walk out any minute, is all she can do.
@@glen7318 No, he's a twat. He's an entitled self absorbed horrible person as everything else he does demonstrates. He doesn't care about Sheila at all, just about his won self importance. The good old English class system at work. And it's still there. Everybody despising everyone else, except for, bizarrely, the "lowest" order, who think people like Prince Andrew are great. Who also throw tantrums all the time and refuses to even close his own curtain.
@ciroalb3: I too was sure I saw Frank Middlemass as the old boy in the club with the handlebar moustache. Don't know what his name is. However I'll have a good look at the credits.
And the Latin schoolmaster in...something--he falls over in a heart attack mid-translation... Also, the fellow playing George played Charlie in "Bergerac" a few decades later. Took me awhile--I did a double-take, watched him for a bit, but didn't recall until I'd walked away. So good one can't recall who else they played while they're playing the one they're playing before you.
The curses are there and the innuendo. What are you going on about? It’s murder most foul, silly rabbit. The Queens English, bow ties and dry martinis don’t make it any less heinous.
Lern englisch ... deutsche Übersetzungen haben Fehler ... und zwar nicht zu knapp. Manchmal wird der Sinn sogar um 180° gedreht ... und die ungebildeten Übersetzer wissen z.B. nicht dass "taking orders" (aus: Pride & Prejudice) "zum Priester ordiniert werden" heisst ... und nichts mit "Befehle entgegen nehmen" zu tun hat.
One writer's error. If a person dies his bowels and bladder empty. This would have been noticed in the club. But then again, there wouldn't be a story, would there?
It is possible that the victim had voided just prior to his death, though that would have been an extraordinarily lucky coincidence for the party who would benefit by it (sorry to be vague, but trying not to spoil).
@@auntfanny3266 This was filmed back in the days when they were still using really big lights which made the sets rather warm. Having a REAL dead body - which also conforms to the specification of gender, looks and weight - under these circumstances would be "unsanitary". Full size puppets arent that easy/cheap to make either.
@@glen7318 And Glyn Houston was no mean actor -- he had other commitments. This one does all right, even though I agree that I would have preferred GH.
Just LISTEN to them speak ... and learn the language that way. There are two things you need to learn it (after getting a starting vocabulary): - something to read, which you can DEVOUR every day ... which will give you the basic understanding of sentences and grammar and - something to listen to, which will demonstrate how words are pronounced. As my old english teacher used to say: _You do not need to know what each word means, you just need to know what the sentence means._
I'm watching on my phone and it's great , even if it wasn't,u won't hear me complaining, it's free and all the episodes are in order,the channel took time to share these, until I learn how to do it myself , I'll take it as is and be grateful. Thanks again for this channel poster's time and effort !
Ian Carmichael is not the ideal cast for this role. He's too old. At the time of the affair at the Bellona Club, Lord Peter was in his early 30s, but Carmichael already looked like he was 60.
. They are speaking English... Americans must not expect all people to speak American. :-) This is a programme for a British audience it wasn't made for world wide distribution .Sorry.
If you are accused of a crime you didnt do ... you would WANT someone like Lord Peter Wimsey to be on your side. Sadly I feel he would be somewhat powerless against todays might of MEDIA PROPAGANDA and MANIPULATION OF PUBLIC OPINION.
Bloke playing. ‘Gully’ or some such name who is ‘ supposed’ to have only one arm has been so poorly dressed by the costume dept responsible to appear to have this missing limb that your can still see his real arm quite clearly stuffed inside his suit, a small point admittedly but as Ian Carmichael, et all are good actors and I have just been watching some Paul Templar/Francis Durbridge stuff where the acting is abysmal and the plots worse so onward with this show and I remain thankful for small mercies.
Lord Peter is a most delightful character
I think Ian Carmichael was probably very satisfied to express Lord Peter's compassionate insight into shell-shocked casualties of the Great War.
Very possibly. Carmichael's father had served in the Great War (Medical Officer), and he himself was a veteran of Normandy and the advance to the Rhine. Both would have seen shell-shock at first hand.
Love the way George and the doctor stare at each other but don't speak until Wimsey introduces them. How terribly, terribly British 😆
Not so much as ….and you are?
Used to watch these with my Dad, he always turned me on to the best shows.
Wonderful - formidable performance by the brilliant Ian Carmichael - thank you for sharing & looking forward to the rest of the series
Thank you!!!! Love watching quality British programing. Watching from the US. 😊❤
What a treat---after all these years! Thank You!
Hey
That's why I love these shows, no curses or unpleasant words. BEST ACTING only.
I truly enjoy the music of these intros and intermission pieces. I enjoy these videos.
They are wonderful.Thank u for posting
Witty,amusing and beautifully portrayed and not a curse or innuendo in sight,Perfect.
@@langsuan123 Lovley, jubbly it took it`s time to penetrate. OH there i go again.
Ian Carmichael’s attention to detail is very evident in his “piano playing’. Some of the best miming I’ve seen. So rare and so pleasing.
I spotted your comment and smiled when reading it. Ian Carmichael was an accomplished pianist and truly wizard on the saxophone. Yes, of course he 'mimes' in the Lord Peter series but he was a wonderful musician.
@@chelamcguire I didn’t t know that. It makes perfect sense. Thank you 😊
is really astonishing when film and TV companies have spent so much on getting everything right, but still take no notice of what the people playing musicians are doing. Oddly enough, the exploitation film maker Jess Franco quite often gets this right, which is amazing, considering the budgets he was working with. There's an amazing scene in one of his films, in which he is playing alongside Manfred Mann; and they really are playing as well..
I always figured Ian played for real in the show. It looks legit to me, I'm amazed. He's also an accomplished mime apparently.
@@oliverclothesoff5397 Just so sad that Mr Carmichael has gone from our world. I wished that he'd done more of the books though i believe that he'd narrated all of them for radio. His dear 'wife' is still with us but his devoted 'butler' has passed away. We are all here such a short time......
I just like the quaint and subtle nuances of a gentleman showing feeling along with a brut of a gal (it's the way I view my grandparents) when it comes to being sleuths and bloodhounds-- salt & pepper. Thank you so very much for posting this in a series linked together, as well. (Sub)
Excellent series. Very good acting.
Fabulous series. Thank you for sharing.
Hey
I love the scene starting at 25:48. Such good acting in this whole series.
I admired how Lord Peter acknowledged George’s mental health issues with PTSD instead of just calling him”weak natured.”
why would he call him weak? Wimsey has had a breakdown himself because of his war experiences
@@glen7318 That's Tu's point, isn't it? It was Murbles that gave that description of George, and that led Lord Peter to jump to George's defense.
Fun to recognize John Welsh (who played Mr. Murbles in this episode, and Mr. Merriman in "The Duchess of Duke Street"). :)
Superb quality upload considering the original broadcast or VHS quality. THANKS
Wonderful presentation and delightful experience in one’s mind trying to solve his grandfather’s death.🙏🏽📖😇
God, it's terrible, all those lads who went off to fight in the Great War and came back total mental and physical wrecks like poor George (and Lord Peter too for that matter). And the worst part is that the bloody government did NOTHING for them afterwards. They should have been fêted as heroes and granted a HUGE pension.
Muck006 How CAN you place "gay, trans, female or non-White" all in a row, in that particular order?! Females make up more than half the world's entire population, the others are real minorities. Furthermore, I think you do feminists a disservice. They aren't all nuts.
"Todays feminists and SJWs (and the Antifa communists) are intent on throwing away respect for any achievements" --- You've just made that up. Bare-faced invention.
They were just cannon fodder. One German officer was shocked when he saw the men and their horses being sent directly into the German machine gun fire.
That's not the terrible part. When they were sent during WW1, nobody really knew what they were sending them into, because it was a completely new scenario; and nobody really knew anything about 'shell shock' or ptsd as it is now, even though there are mentions of it as far back as Ancient Greece.
The terrible part is that the same thing happens now, and they get treated the same way, by so, so many when they return. But we do know.
@@debbielough7754 It's terrible. In the past, it was a way a government got rid of the poor(er) in society. In England, sometimes the returning soldiers would be housed on river barges and once in awhile, one would catch fire. The conditions in the trenches was horrific. There was no social media back then and family members wouldn't know what their sons would be suffering.
How nice to see John Quentin in this.....quite ironic as he was effectively Bertie Wooster in the commercials for Croft Original sherry.....of course Ian Carmichael officially played Bertie Wooster for real in programmes!
Dorothy L Sayers did an English version of Dante's Inferno.
Fully rhymed.
Edward Petherbridge, hope the spelling is correct, was Sir Peter in the first videos I watched and found him so centered and carried an air of quiet strength and very intellectual. This Sir Peter plays the role quite different and more robust middle class as the Brits would say, Thank you for posting this, Lord Peter Wimsey is great treat
Both are interesting and entertaning in their own way. I loved the episodes with Harriet Vane in them - very romantic to se our hero wooing her -, but these others are also funny and smart.
Please. Lord Peter. Sir Peter would be something quite different. Petherbridge is closer in appearance, and the right age, but as long as I close my eyes, Carmichael is wimsier.
The character changed over the course of the series. When we meet him, he's somewhat flighty and irresponsible, still troubled and recovering by episodes of PTSD. His interest in solving murders comes about because he's very wealthy and bored. He's the second son, doesn't expect to inherit the his father's title because his brother has a nephew and can afford to indulge his whims. But, by the time we see him and Harriet married in Busman's Honeymoon, he's much more grounded. Now when he's brought into a case he is driven to discover who the murderer is and see justice done even though it grieved him to know the murderer faced hanging. The character aged and, during his relationship with Harriet Vane, 'grew up'. Which makes him all the more interesting. Edward Petherbridge carries the transition of the last three TV films off very well. And though we only have the audible book for Busman's Honeymoon your imagination can fill in how would appear if only they had presented it on film. Wonderful character and great cast. I loved Ian Carmichael and Edward Petherbridge in the role.
@@nancycrayton2738 The character does deepen over the course of several books, at first Sayers was just creating a mystery story. Over time, she gave Peter more depth, suggested that under his frivolous manner he was badly shaken by his war experiences and that he detected out of a desire to help people rather than out of boredom
@shirley: It's Lord Peter, not Sir Peter. Peter's the younger son of a duke and therefore not a peer. Nor is he a baronet (hereditary title) or a knight (a man knighted by the British monarch).
Thank you for this! Loved it!
Господи, збережи і укріпи всіх захисників нашіх ta pryvedy jih do Peremohy !
Upokij, Bozhechku vsih polehlyh Lytsariv Ukrajiny!!!
12:08 *Sanlucar de Barrameda* -- I first saw this nearly fifty years ago. A few years later, I had a very memorable dinner sitting in a seaside restaurant in Sanlucar, looking out over the Atlantic from the port Magellen set out from on his last voyage.
How lovely!
Thank you very much for sharing this gem! New subscriber.
Ian Carmichael is the only Wimsey for me💕
He's done some of the audiobooks, too. His reading is sheer perfection.
He does have a rather sly, steely severity when provoked, like Brenda Blethyn in Vera" (whom I love, bit he's much more elegant of course).
I think both Carmichael and Petherbridge do a fine job. They are different, that's all. Seems like fictional characters can have several interpretations and stay true to the story.
Yes he was the only one for this role really wasn't he.
Ian Carmichael reads Wimsey books on line. try them on youtube
Belíssima arte
Awww I have that last tea cup. Royal Albert. I was anticipating Lord Wimsey to say “what” more often.
The character Dr. Penberthy here is played by Donald Pickering who used to play the character of Dr. Watson where Geoffrey Whitehead was Holmes.
I know him best as Dolly Longstaff in the 1970s adaptation of "The Pallisers."
"I'm afraid something rather unpleasant has happened" when he noticed that the geezer had croaked! Very British!
Famous for understatement which is why I love British Novels!
Spoken by a person who will, like all of us, be geezers ourselves someday. And might want a little more respect. Noticing that the grandsons are only interested in how much money they might get. Not endearing.
@lou That's the thing about being young. It might as well be a different nationality or species. The young always look at the old as if they have some particularly disgraceful disease, that they themselves are immune to. It isn't until you start to become old for instance that you start regretting how condescending you were to your parents, or your own children start to treat you the same way. Don't worry. Payback, alas, is coming for the young, lol. They just don't realize it yet. Those making fun of geezers today, are the geezers of tomorrow, and karma is not kind.
@@lou-nc4rc Are they? George has a hysterical fit because he's shell shocked. The Grandfather is very old, they cant expect him to live much longer
@@wmnoffaith1 So true. The young think they'll be young forever.
Anna Cropper, who plays the artistic niece, also played the widow of a condemned man in Inspector Wexford 'A new lease of death'. Anna has exactly the same hairdo and face in both roles!
Linus (Ecbert of Wessex) Roache's mother.
condemed man? Is Insp WExford not set in modern times, after the death penality was abolished?
I loved Ian Carmichael so much....
My very much missed mum saw him where she worked at the original Waterers nursery and garden centre in the early 70s. Apparently he was a very much reserved in his public demeanour but still polite and gentlemanly. Very much old-school.
I miss the gentility of the past. Of course, each era has its pros and cons.
thanks for posting.
Oh my. How sleuths and guests in British mysteries love their sherry. And seemingly lots of it. But in American detective circles, re Bosch, it's "Do you want a beer?" Although I do recall Morse too would tip a pint. Or five.
Loved the description of what a woman would find out...
When one is fighting for the psychos who plan these wars does one really think they care about the wounded that return home? 😎🐯
Magnificent actor
When O was a little girl, my grandpapa belonged to the Cosmos Club. In those days, women were not allowed to walk into the front door, being required to enter via the Ladies' Entrance, and women were not allowed upstairs to see the library, unless there was a ball being given in the ballroom on the second floor. I went back to visit the Cosmos Club once as an adult, having joined a ladies' public speaking club that occasionally has a luncheon meeting and lecture at the Cosmos Club. Nowadays, they have gotten rid of that front door nonsense, and if you stop in to peek into the library, that really is paneled like the library in a Harvard House, you are likely to see a nine year old child sitting at one of the fancy desks, not dressed to the teeth in puffed sleeves and a girlish dress and matching ribbons on her pigtails, as my mother dressed me whenever I would meet my Grandfather there, but merely wearing jeans and a T-shirt, doing her homework as she waits for a family member in this modern generation.
😎😳Great story, let's hear it for humane behaviour for all humanity in big ways and small, every day in all way untill it comes some what naturally and then naturally...😊😎
The old way was much better.
@@polemeros My grandfather didn't think so. He was one of the members who worked for change, tapping an African American candidate for membership who was so well qualified that he couldn't possibly be turned down (in the wake of his friend Carl Rowan not getting in, due to racism) and I believe he may have been behind the change that got rid of the no-women-through-the-front-door nonsense...that change took place between the summer when I turned ten years old and the Christmas a year and a half later. Can you imagine having to tell your beloved brilliant ten year old granddaughter, the apple of your eye, who reads six years above grade level and who looks exactly like her grandmother, the love of your life...that she is NOT Good Enough to come in through the front door? Of course he changed that rule, just as he made the racial bar fall at the Cosmos Club, out of anger that they had snubbed his friend, Carl Rowan!
When my grandfather wanted to change things, he didn't yammer on about it...he simply made it happen. He and Joe Kennedy, Sr., got FDR on the ballot in '32, working together, though of course there were many others who also made important contributions to the 1932 campaign. But when my grandfather wanted something to happen...it often did happen. He was good at that. I wish he'd lived long enough for me to have learned skills from him. I remember him and I miss him, but he passed away while I was still too young to have learned from him.
@@alindley3128 Strange.
They do things differently in America...
@@nicholasalexander4743 Constitutional democracies are only a little bit different from constitutional monarchies, especially compared to the default forms of government, namely totalitarian autocracies and failed warlord states....
Wonderful series. I prefer Ian Carmichael's portrayal of Wimsey.
Yes yes and yes.... Petheridge is just a bit too affected for me...
@@glen7318 Yes, the Petheridge-Walter duo seemed like dreary depressives throughout. None of Carmichael's sprightliness and joy.
@@polemeros Yes, Sayers' creation had a sad side but alos a happy frivolling side. Harriet Walter is always glum and the whole tenor of the show has changed
If it's English, it's classy 💜.
Then you clearly have not been watching English media for the last 25 years. They have all gone PC and classy is the last thing they now portray.
Love it
did you noticed LPW said "your habit of smoking your cigarettes down to the last millimetre will give you away."
It doesn't really add antying to the plot as far as I remember. There's nothing in the book about cigarette ends being a clue
@@glen7318 You missed the point of the remark then ... because it is included to show how desperate and BROKE the person is ... explaining why he is a potential suspect.
@@Muck006 He was always a potential suspect as the grandson of the old general
And that, of course, is why almost all wills nowadays include a 30-day survival clause, to make sure that this kind of problem doesn't occur (although sometimes there are difficulties even with this clause).
She and her husband were extremely happy
Quite unforgivable
? Who?
Our Vietnam Vets treated so horribly as well
vietnamese vets didn't fare much better but only usa is important, it seems
Worse
All U.S. Vets except WW2 have been ignored.
And all by the left and Democrats long may they hang!
@big bear fuzzums: Are u REALLY as stupid and idiotic as ur comment makes u out to be? Or do u have Alzheimer’s or suffer from major memory loss? U conveniently seem to forget that nixon pledged to end the war-just didn’t say how long it wd. take. Do u remember a guy named Reagan, an actor turned President? I believe his successor was a Bush....but the smart one. And we had eight years of his, the not very bright one. Yes, there were Democratic Presidents-Carter, Clinton and Obama whom u likely despise more than any President bcoz, like the current occupant of our beautiful White House, ur probably a closet or not so closeted racist. Don’t dare to blame our vets treatment only on the Democrats u hate-mongering bigot.
The actor playing the doctor also played Dolly Longstaffe in the Pallisers.
Thank you for uploading.
Did people really wear their ties like they are doing at 13.12?
What? Round their necks?
I believe so. In fact, that's how I still wear mine...
These shows and their stories are great. Thank you for the Lord Peter Wimsey stories.
I do like Petherbridge better. Just my opinion.
I agree; he is far closer to the Wimsey created and described by DLS. But I can occasionally enjoy Ian Carmichael in the role, at least a little.
Can anyone tell me what is the snippet of music that Lord Peter plays at 17:45?
The theme song to this very series ragtimed to pieces!
The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club (1972) - 8.2
When one of the members of the Bellona Club passes away, Lord Wimsey is brought in to determine the time of death for testamentary purposes.
👍✌🇺🇸✌👍The Best Ever👍
Has anyone else, I wonder, spotted that lord Peter smokes " Passing Cloud " cigarettes?
I love the way the "poor" husband and wife describe themselves as desperate. Yet they're both earning money, and earning more than the millions of working class people, who were also gassed, shot, & traumatized in WW1. They're SO strapped for cash that they have a BAD servant. Oh dear. Because filling the coal bucket themselves is too impossible.
It reminds me of another of Lincoln's quips. He met some puffed up military bod, Lincoln commented that he (Lincoln) needed to blacken his boots as they were scuffed. The puffy guy said, "I never blacken my own boots." in a snotty tone. Lincoln replied, "Whose boots do you blacken?"
George does not want to do housework because he's not brought up to it and he is mentally shaken up by the war. Sheila has a full time job and has heart troulble, so relying on not very good servants, who might walk out any minute, is all she can do.
@@glen7318 No, he's a twat. He's an entitled self absorbed horrible person as everything else he does demonstrates. He doesn't care about Sheila at all, just about his won self importance.
The good old English class system at work.
And it's still there. Everybody despising everyone else, except for, bizarrely, the "lowest" order, who think people like Prince Andrew are great. Who also throw tantrums all the time and refuses to even close his own curtain.
The book makes a bit clearer, I think, that it's a matter of adjusting to a new reality and doing so badly.
@@glen7318 Yes, she's okay. He's an idiot.
@@beth12svist exactly...being an idiot.
'Known for his imagination, poor George. Unhappy quality'...
the wonderful Frank Middlemass in a small role as a club member
ciroalb3 not in the credits - sounds like him but not quite
I truly enjoy all the old radio programs!! Fond memories of my youth!!
@ciroalb3: I too was sure I saw Frank Middlemass as the old boy in the club with the handlebar moustache. Don't know what his name is. However I'll have a good look at the credits.
@@mfjdv2020 he is named in the book, but I think not in the program
@@mfjdv2020 Norman Scace?
His arches were strained. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🦶🏼
After years of playing the innocent/idiotic butt of the joke how nice that he got to play a genius detective who only pretended to be a fool.
IT IS!
cÓMO PUEDO VER ESTA SERIE SUBTITULADA EN ESPAÑOL????? :(
35:12-35:22 TRUTH! ((( 8
Quality!
The Daily Twaddle? 📰
Look, it's Merryman, from The Duchess of Duke Street!!!
And the Latin schoolmaster in...something--he falls over in a heart attack mid-translation...
Also, the fellow playing George played Charlie in "Bergerac" a few decades later. Took me awhile--I did a double-take, watched him for a bit, but didn't recall until I'd walked away. So good one can't recall who else they played while they're playing the one they're playing before you.
@@dellaroux To serve them ALl my dayss is where he plays a teacher.
@@glen7318 Ah, yes, thanks, that's it. I just pictured that lanky flat-fall mid-ablative, classic....
The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club.
Why does Charmichael drop the letter g at the end of words ending in ing?
because that is a way that Englsih people talked.
@@glen7318 It's an upper-class affectation.
The curses are there and the innuendo. What are you going on about? It’s murder most foul, silly rabbit. The Queens English, bow ties and dry martinis don’t make it any less heinous.
Hast du die Serie auch in deutscher Sprache?
Lern englisch ... deutsche Übersetzungen haben Fehler ... und zwar nicht zu knapp. Manchmal wird der Sinn sogar um 180° gedreht ... und die ungebildeten Übersetzer wissen z.B. nicht dass "taking orders" (aus: Pride & Prejudice) "zum Priester ordiniert werden" heisst ... und nichts mit "Befehle entgegen nehmen" zu tun hat.
Soames' dad? And Monty?
Wodehouse certainly had the useless refuse, on the upper class English down pat! Twaddle!
wodehouse?
Dorothy L Sayers. an academic researcher (Oxford )as well as a writer of mysteries
Where did Peter Etherbridge go??? 😥😒
Edward Petherbridge?
I was abit surprised while watching this the actor was so unlike the written character. However they played the characters and the story well.
What wimpy people. "I like facts" is a really weird thing to say. George has a point, actually. Little did they know in the 70's.
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Hint: this should be 4:3 screen ratio. This stretched version looks absolutely DREADFUL.
Muck006 Don't make a muck of it, old boy, don't you know. We're lucky to have it.
Hush
Mouais ben moi ce que je préférerais c'est une version française ou au moins sous titrée!
One writer's error. If a person dies his bowels and bladder empty. This would have been noticed in the club. But then again, there wouldn't be a story, would there?
Does that happen to everyone, no matter how they die? :-0
It is possible that the victim had voided just prior to his death, though that would have been an extraordinarily lucky coincidence for the party who would benefit by it (sorry to be vague, but trying not to spoil).
Rarely.
George's missus is a bit of all right.
Waste 'w' war.
I'm here after watching Frasier season 5 Halloween episode.
George is rather unpleasant and even cruel towards his wife. Unable to hold onto a job, no means of income. Incapable of change.
He had PTSD
Shellshock from fighting in the trenches WWI
@@mavisemberson8737 Absolutely - shellshock was PTSD. Terrible.
Just wondering, because the upper classes are so socially correct... Shouldn't the guest be offered the drink before the host?
If the guest was invited then yes; if uninvited I think no.
@@jamescairns4051 For sure. An uninvited guest should not get a drink at all.
Bunter is merely conveying Lord Peter's part-consumed sherry from A to B. He's not being offered a drink. Murbles is.
You could not make this show today. Too many folks smoking.
Peter Jones and Glyn Houston much better as Bunter
Dead body? Clearly breathing and even moved his hand, despite Rigor Mortis!
well as an actor I know this......ITS HARD to play dead...so be it
Moan moan
@@auntfanny3266 This was filmed back in the days when they were still using really big lights which made the sets rather warm. Having a REAL dead body - which also conforms to the specification of gender, looks and weight - under these circumstances would be "unsanitary". Full size puppets arent that easy/cheap to make either.
It's known as corpsing.
I think that they frown on using an actual dead body.. (or killing the actor)....
TOO QUIET.
Not the best Bunter.
Anna - Yes, they should have waited for Glyn Houston to come back.
MAYBE GLYN WASN'T UP TO THINGS
@@inisipisTV They are hardly going to be able to wait if an actor has another commitment...Bunter isn't the star
@@glen7318 And Glyn Houston was no mean actor -- he had other commitments. This one does all right, even though I agree that I would have preferred GH.
@@VLind-uk6mb Gerald Campion was the best Bunter.
Too bad the subtitles are so awful.
Turn them off :-)
Just LISTEN to them speak ... and learn the language that way. There are two things you need to learn it (after getting a starting vocabulary):
- something to read, which you can DEVOUR every day ... which will give you the basic understanding of sentences and grammar and
- something to listen to, which will demonstrate how words are pronounced.
As my old english teacher used to say: _You do not need to know what each word means, you just need to know what the sentence means._
@@Muck006 the subtitles are terrible you could not follow hte plot that way
Some of the acting is a little wooden
En castellano hablado 😡🇨🇱
fuzzy copy and stretched, disgrace
Ungrateful arse, 😯
@@kathleencampbell1138 Converting the screen ratio is easy ... but not part of YT auto-corrections.
I'm watching on my phone and it's great , even if it wasn't,u won't hear me complaining, it's free and all the episodes are in order,the channel took time to share these, until I learn how to do it myself , I'll take it as is and be grateful. Thanks again for this channel poster's time and effort !
Ian Carmichael is not the ideal cast for this role. He's too old. At the time of the affair at the Bellona Club, Lord Peter was in his early 30s, but Carmichael already looked like he was 60.
Early 50's (he was born in 1920) but it's something that he admitted to himself, which is the main reason he didn't do any more after 1975.
@@Shadowman4710 Ian Carmichael was in his early 50s. But in the novel Lord Peter was in his early 30s.
I thought I was good with accents, but I can only understand about one word in eight. I'm out of here.
. They are speaking English... Americans must not expect all people to speak American. :-) This is a programme for a British audience it wasn't made for world wide distribution .Sorry.
I haven't come across anyone with an accent yet, but I'm only 8 minutes into this episode. I'll keep you posted.
@merry hunt: The artist's young maid at 8:50 has a cockney accent. Watch this space for more!
I dont think that the voices are hard to understand - its mostly middle and upper Class English speaking standard English....
@@mavisemberson8737 touche’. Spot on 😊
Why have you made them widescreen when they were made in 4x3? Everyone looks fat with ridiculously wide shoulders - this is such a shame.
I'm sorry Don 't think this is my type of show.
What an irritating character Peter Wimsey.
No he's brilliant
some people do find him irritating,. I find Petheridges portayal irritating whereas for me Ian Carm has the right balance....
If you are accused of a crime you didnt do ... you would WANT someone like Lord Peter Wimsey to be on your side. Sadly I feel he would be somewhat powerless against todays might of MEDIA PROPAGANDA and MANIPULATION OF PUBLIC OPINION.
Bloke playing. ‘Gully’ or some such name who is ‘ supposed’ to have only one arm has been so poorly dressed by the costume dept responsible to appear to have this missing limb that your can still see his real arm quite clearly stuffed inside his suit, a small point admittedly but as Ian Carmichael, et all are good actors and I have just been watching some Paul Templar/Francis Durbridge stuff where the acting is abysmal and the plots worse so onward with this show and I remain thankful for small mercies.