Because of my recording mistake Grubby's audio quality is a bit worse in the first game vs the AI, if its annoying just make sure to skip to the second game :) Let me know if you liked this and want to see some more wc3 content! Thanks for watching everyone
This is a really REALLY good video. I've seen a lot of "pro being taught" videos and this is the best. It shows what an insanely good coach Grubby would make. He is SO good, and this discourse with another RTS expert (who is still a student) is the absolute best way for RTS viewers to understand a game. Seriously, this is amazing content. Please please do more of these. If you can find a teacher of this caliber in BAR I would support that, too. Thanks, Thermy, I've watched for a long time and I love this trend.
Love seeing uThermal and some other content creators getting into WC3 recently, the game never got the renaissance it deserves after Blizzard fumbled Reforged so hard.
Thumbnail scared me that you would play with reforged graphics. Its awesome to see you trying out so many new games. Id never know there is so much variety in this genre without you.
@@bobby4tw subjective reasons: wprse sfx, dont like the art style, worse visual clarity objective reasons: building sizes dont match up with real hitboxes, some sfx were switched between units for no reason, you cant tell elf buildings apart while they are being built because they all look the same, multiple death sounds for units making it more complicated to know whats happening and more.. edit: i think there are even reforged graphics specific bugs.
First game, and he's doing a proper build order, micros better than I could even imagine and plays super solidly throughout the entire match. It's actually insane how well he played his first ever game. Not surprising considering his past knowledge, but still very impressive to watch
It's really cool seeing you dive into this really nostalgic game for me - and I feel good knowing that I could most likely beat you in an RTS! I'd never stand a chance against you in Starcraft but I played WC3 ladder for several years. Had my 2500 win icon for Undead with a 58% win rate! I'd like to see you give Undead a go! Undead's gimmick is similar to Zerg, with cheaper units that are typically weaker than units of equal tier to other races with a few exceptions. Their Tier 3 / Tier 4 units are some of the strongest with some drawbacks. Abominations are relatively cheap for their power, but they are large and clunky. Frost Wyrms are one of the strongest units in the game, but very expensive and have several tech requirements before you can train them. Necromancers are my favorite support caster, able to summon skeletons from nearby corpses - buff your units with an insane steroid and cripple your opponents priority units. I'm surprised he didn't mention building a scout farm. It can be a good idea to build a farm further out from your base to act as a 'scout'. It warns you about early cheeses / rush tactics, and your opponent will almost never take the time to destroy it the first time. It takes too long to destroy, so they will most likely rush past it to try and attack your economy - so it gives you warning and you still don't lose it.
Out of all the people Grubby has coached, you are the one I'm most happy to see. Hope you like the game and continue to play it, cause the way I see things you have great potential. Cheers!
I strongly recommend playing Warcraft 3 more. It's fun, and if you are looking for entertaining content, it's a gold mine! The variety of heroes and items create a lot of opportunities for crazy hijinks that would fit well on your channel. For example - just with human - You can buy a mechanical sheep from your racial shop. These are like critters and appear as such to the enemy, but you control them, and they provide you vision. You can buy a staff of teleport from the goblin shop that lets you teleport a hero to any unit you control - including a mechanical sheep. You can buy a staff of sanctuary from your racial shop, which allows you to teleport any unit home. You can even use the staff of sanctuary to send a zeppelin home - a zeppelin that can contain up to 8 of your units, including heroes. The mobility all this provides allows you to essentially be anywhere, anytime, and do anything. Also - arcane towers have an ability that lets you reveal any part of the map. Build a few of those, and you can see everything, and go anywhere, and do anything - hijinks ensue. Also you have a spellcaster that can turn anything invisible. There is a lot of fun to be had. I hope you make more WC3 content!
Yea like putting fire in the forest with the human elf hero, put mortars in that area with the help of a zepelin and destroy competely the base out of reach ahah. Or using sorceress invisibility on 10 mortars and sneaking them in your opponent's mineral :P I know many of those ugly cheese. I think with human you can make 10x more cheese than UThermy has in his repertoire for sc2.
subscribing for more, loveing grubbying sharing more of a great game with others. still debating getting back into it myself. I remember my favorite was on my RRHO account, random race heros only x.x
As an old-school WC3 (NE) player turned big Starcraft 2 player, but dropped off before the Void expansion, coming back to see you and Winter doing Starcraft 2 streams and commentary while I relive my WC3 ladder is a dream come true! Please continue and enjoy your Warcraft 3 journey! I will love it! You will love it! And so many more will love it! Keep up the fun! Grubby and Moon (the 5th race) are two legends whom I will never deny a like. They have been around for ages, and you are in very good hands to get your MMR skyrocketing by listening to this absolute (4K) king!
I understand Mark is a very good player in any RTS game, but the pace at which he picked up the build and micro specifics while under pressure is pure insanity. I to this day forget upgrades and start them WAY too late every other game.
Wow great news, I heard in the video that you feel good about playing Warcraft and want to try and climb on the ladder. That's super cool, I'm stoked for it. New viewer here, found your content from Grubby. Great collab, hope to see more!
Oh my god, Yes! I love both of you guys. So cool to see you together. I'd love to see more. Maybe teach him some Starcraft? Two very wholesome cool dudes.
Watched this live, it was like watching best mates meet for the first time. Hope we get a lot more grubby x uthermal content, whether WC3 or something else. You guys have great chemistry
I hope you do a warcraft challenge! I would watch that even fi you are in bronze. Nice game, especially for a first time! You might even beat Insane Computer.
This collab is CRAZY! I go through phases where I'll binge watch wc3 and then sc2 and go back and forth. I never even thought about you two coming together but it just makes so much sense.
You showed really good microcontrol on the tidehunters map and a good gameplay despite doing it first time. Really glad you can involve more people in that beautiful game! GL HF!
Loved this!! You already have so much knowledge in SCII and a lot of that will carry over to Warcraft - I would be very interested to see you play more Warcraft
Warcraft 3 is my favorite game still and grubby was a very instrumental teacher to me back in the day, working with mr Cygnus at warcraftreplays to do audio commentary on how to micro was probably the first time I had heard commentary from the pros playing the game. Thanks for bringing back some good memories and I hope you keep make more wc3 content!
I freaking LOVE that you're doing this. While I don't expect you to become a high-ranking player, I would love to watch your journey of becoming at least a decent, well-rounded WC3 player. I mean, watching you go 1v1 against Grubby would be pointless, but if you would eventually get to the point of going 2v2 together with him, that could be a lot of fun to watch.
this is the content i needed, the two main RTS creators i watch the same month some of my favorite streamers are learning the fighting games and moba's i watch.
Man, Marc is so good. I'm super impressed with how quickly he picked up the game, though not surprised. I've been playing WC3 on and off for 20 years now and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat me lol.
Oh my gosh, that chat at the end of the second game was gold, HAHAHA. But better at first WC3 1v1 games than all the other playerbase perhaps, thanks to the Grub
Because of my recording mistake Grubby's audio quality is a bit worse in the first game vs the AI, if its annoying just make sure to skip to the second game :)
Let me know if you liked this and want to see some more wc3 content! Thanks for watching everyone
I'm so hyped leeets go!
Was about to ask if you've called in on phone! :)
I can`t believe u never played Warcraft3!! Most def more content, i think you`ll love it!! To no 1 series! :)
Quality content, gib more
I'm down to watch more. Thanks for the content, Thermy. Cheers brotha.
Yesssss please continue this wc3 journey!! The two best streamers have collaborated. 👌🏼👌🏼
Agreed
100%
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My two favorite youtubers and content creators! Love to see it.
Damn dude, you learn fast. Impressive second game.
This is a really REALLY good video. I've seen a lot of "pro being taught" videos and this is the best. It shows what an insanely good coach Grubby would make. He is SO good, and this discourse with another RTS expert (who is still a student) is the absolute best way for RTS viewers to understand a game. Seriously, this is amazing content. Please please do more of these. If you can find a teacher of this caliber in BAR I would support that, too. Thanks, Thermy, I've watched for a long time and I love this trend.
Love seeing uThermal and some other content creators getting into WC3 recently, the game never got the renaissance it deserves after Blizzard fumbled Reforged so hard.
Yeah the whole Tyler1 showmatch thing followed up by some more league streamers playing for a bit really did wonders for the game
Ohhhhhhhhhhh my god this is exactly what we needed ! Kudos to you and Grub !
Two of my favourite RTS content creators combined! This was awesome. Gz on second match win! The macro was unreal
Thumbnail scared me that you would play with reforged graphics.
Its awesome to see you trying out so many new games.
Id never know there is so much variety in this genre without you.
Same lol
Reforged graphics are a HUGE improvement over the original low poly. What are you babbling about? For nostalgia reasons?
@@bobby4tw subjective reasons: wprse sfx, dont like the art style, worse visual clarity
objective reasons: building sizes dont match up with real hitboxes, some sfx were switched between units for no reason, you cant tell elf buildings apart while they are being built because they all look the same, multiple death sounds for units making it more complicated to know whats happening
and more..
edit: i think there are even reforged graphics specific bugs.
"Kill the dark purple one" stormbolts light green murloc😂 love seeing the learning process, and scary how quick picking things up.
uThermal is gonna be the first person in wc3 to find the most disgusting combination of units u could imagine
i would laugh so much if he started doing unit challenges in WC3 that literally etcha sketches the known meta
"Beating grandmasters with footmen only"
Paladin rifleman into grandmaster
Proxy altar rush
there is actually a guy (there may be more, but I know one) who dose this in WC3 already, he dose all kinds of silly challenges.
WC3 is such a great game, it and SC2 are just the best thing Brilliance Entertainment ever made.
Archmage Entertainment
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Job’s Done Productions
Sc1 and BW, the old diablos, they were on a run for almost 20 years
First game, and he's doing a proper build order, micros better than I could even imagine and plays super solidly throughout the entire match.
It's actually insane how well he played his first ever game. Not surprising considering his past knowledge, but still very impressive to watch
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAA THIS COLLAB IS CRAZY HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
It's really cool seeing you dive into this really nostalgic game for me - and I feel good knowing that I could most likely beat you in an RTS! I'd never stand a chance against you in Starcraft but I played WC3 ladder for several years. Had my 2500 win icon for Undead with a 58% win rate!
I'd like to see you give Undead a go! Undead's gimmick is similar to Zerg, with cheaper units that are typically weaker than units of equal tier to other races with a few exceptions. Their Tier 3 / Tier 4 units are some of the strongest with some drawbacks. Abominations are relatively cheap for their power, but they are large and clunky. Frost Wyrms are one of the strongest units in the game, but very expensive and have several tech requirements before you can train them.
Necromancers are my favorite support caster, able to summon skeletons from nearby corpses - buff your units with an insane steroid and cripple your opponents priority units.
I'm surprised he didn't mention building a scout farm. It can be a good idea to build a farm further out from your base to act as a 'scout'. It warns you about early cheeses / rush tactics, and your opponent will almost never take the time to destroy it the first time. It takes too long to destroy, so they will most likely rush past it to try and attack your economy - so it gives you warning and you still don't lose it.
2 legends of the RTS community! So cool to see you collaborate with Grubby the King of Orc! Also thank you for the new eyes you're both putting on WC3
Out of all the people Grubby has coached, you are the one I'm most happy to see. Hope you like the game and continue to play it, cause the way I see things you have great potential.
Cheers!
I love this! I hope you'll keep trying, it's fascinating to see a top player learning a new game and WC3 is an absolutely classic.
More collabs? WC3? uThermal and Grubby playing BAR?
Yes please to all of the above!
I want more of this long format stuff my dude. This was great fun to watch. Entertain me!!! haha.
I strongly recommend playing Warcraft 3 more. It's fun, and if you are looking for entertaining content, it's a gold mine! The variety of heroes and items create a lot of opportunities for crazy hijinks that would fit well on your channel. For example - just with human - You can buy a mechanical sheep from your racial shop. These are like critters and appear as such to the enemy, but you control them, and they provide you vision. You can buy a staff of teleport from the goblin shop that lets you teleport a hero to any unit you control - including a mechanical sheep. You can buy a staff of sanctuary from your racial shop, which allows you to teleport any unit home. You can even use the staff of sanctuary to send a zeppelin home - a zeppelin that can contain up to 8 of your units, including heroes. The mobility all this provides allows you to essentially be anywhere, anytime, and do anything. Also - arcane towers have an ability that lets you reveal any part of the map. Build a few of those, and you can see everything, and go anywhere, and do anything - hijinks ensue. Also you have a spellcaster that can turn anything invisible.
There is a lot of fun to be had. I hope you make more WC3 content!
In a way, kind of the same as SC2, a lot of the same meta/ cookie cutter strats over and over again
Yea like putting fire in the forest with the human elf hero, put mortars in that area with the help of a zepelin and destroy competely the base out of reach ahah. Or using sorceress invisibility on 10 mortars and sneaking them in your opponent's mineral :P I know many of those ugly cheese. I think with human you can make 10x more cheese than UThermy has in his repertoire for sc2.
He can also play the campaign, it's one of if not the best in the RTS genre.
Grubby bringing in collabs from all angles, first League now Starcraft this is sick
warcraft 3 is the singularely best game humanity ever created, glad you are on board
One of for sure.
The Editor was goated. It enabled the Community to Invent mobas autobattlers and several stand alone Games Like Legion td
Then why could it never compete with the glory of a league of legends or valorant?
@@k9tirion927 LoL is literally WC3's baby, also not to use foul language, but LoL is goddamn shit.
@@k9tirion927zoomer detected. RTS games were huge back in the day. WC3 had it’s glory days before League and Valo ever came out.
This was a ton of fun to watch, gg Marc! Was very entertaining and loved Grubby coaching you!
subscribing for more, loveing grubbying sharing more of a great game with others. still debating getting back into it myself. I remember my favorite was on my RRHO account, random race heros only x.x
and now watchign, i'm so down to follow this journey
So crazy I recently subscribed to both of you separately and now you collab randomly lol what are the odds. Keep it up with the wc3!
As an old-school WC3 (NE) player turned big Starcraft 2 player, but dropped off before the Void expansion, coming back to see you and Winter doing Starcraft 2 streams and commentary while I relive my WC3 ladder is a dream come true! Please continue and enjoy your Warcraft 3 journey! I will love it! You will love it! And so many more will love it! Keep up the fun!
Grubby and Moon (the 5th race) are two legends whom I will never deny a like. They have been around for ages, and you are in very good hands to get your MMR skyrocketing by listening to this absolute (4K) king!
I’m extremely stoked to watch more! This is such cool content, you going over all the races would also be a great intro for beginners.
Wow am I glad I ran into this for that alt F, info...
Wow, I can't believe I'd see uThermal and Grubby together in one video. This video put a smile on my face.
What a true display of what a fast learner and a great coach can do together. Very impressed, would love to see more!
I came here from Grubby's channel and I am actually impressed how two professional RTS players can learn from each other. Great job!
Ahhhh! no way this was my RTS of choice back in the day! I was an absolute trashcan but I loved playing it
Me too 😅
Love the collab, 2 of my favorite RTS gamers/youtubers together, what a time we live in!
Super cool that you're trying out Warcraft! Really happy to see you and Grubby collab
First time hearing of you. Liking and subscribing! I'm glad you two are collaborating, and I look forward to more in the future!
Super well played, love the micro even though it was just your first game. Great coaching by Grubs
Love the collaboration. Thanks for everything both of you do. All the best :)
I love seeing thermy and grubby content! I’ll watch y’all collab on anything
I understand Mark is a very good player in any RTS game, but the pace at which he picked up the build and micro specifics while under pressure is pure insanity. I to this day forget upgrades and start them WAY too late every other game.
I’m a 20 year Grubby follower. Just came for this and subbed. Can’t wait to follow your journey bro!
Wow great news, I heard in the video that you feel good about playing Warcraft and want to try and climb on the ladder. That's super cool, I'm stoked for it. New viewer here, found your content from Grubby. Great collab, hope to see more!
Oh my god, Yes! I love both of you guys. So cool to see you together. I'd love to see more. Maybe teach him some Starcraft? Two very wholesome cool dudes.
Watched this live, it was like watching best mates meet for the first time. Hope we get a lot more grubby x uthermal content, whether WC3 or something else. You guys have great chemistry
This feels like the beginning of a fantastic series! Totally epic and fun to watch.
I haven't seen a single game of wc3 yet but this was entertaining af seeing you learning everything with Grubbys explanations
As a huge fan of both of you, I've been dreaming of this crossover for a while. Sometimes dreams do come true!
When two GOATs become the multiGoat.
Seen Grubby, insta clicked, realised it was therms, i stayed.
Please do more.
I hope you do a warcraft challenge! I would watch that even fi you are in bronze. Nice game, especially for a first time! You might even beat Insane Computer.
This collab is CRAZY! I go through phases where I'll binge watch wc3 and then sc2 and go back and forth. I never even thought about you two coming together but it just makes so much sense.
AMAZING! MAKE A SERIES!
Grubby teaches uThermal WC3!
Such a great vibe
You showed really good microcontrol on the tidehunters map and a good gameplay despite doing it first time. Really glad you can involve more people in that beautiful game! GL HF!
Loved this!! You already have so much knowledge in SCII and a lot of that will carry over to Warcraft - I would be very interested to see you play more Warcraft
Yes! I was waiting for this colab for ages! Hope to see more wc3 in the future and more colabs with Grubby! It's so cool to see both of you!
The starcraft style "split and forget" micro was funny to see. So different from what you're supposed to do and I've personally been there as well
Warcraft 3 is my favorite game still and grubby was a very instrumental teacher to me back in the day, working with mr Cygnus at warcraftreplays to do audio commentary on how to micro was probably the first time I had heard commentary from the pros playing the game. Thanks for bringing back some good memories and I hope you keep make more wc3 content!
Warcraft 3 arc let’s do it!
Great content! It's so nice seeing all the new WC3 stuff all around!
I freaking LOVE that you're doing this. While I don't expect you to become a high-ranking player, I would love to watch your journey of becoming at least a decent, well-rounded WC3 player. I mean, watching you go 1v1 against Grubby would be pointless, but if you would eventually get to the point of going 2v2 together with him, that could be a lot of fun to watch.
Thanks for the fun and instructive video with teacher Grubby! ^^
uThermal & Grubby is the best crossover I didn't know I needed.
I liked this a lot, somehow i couldnt stay focused on the new rts games you tried but here i was hooked. Maybe nostalgia.
this is the content i needed, the two main RTS creators i watch the same month some of my favorite streamers are learning the fighting games and moba's i watch.
What is this??? A crossover episode? :)
Loving it l! Frikadelbroodje powerrrrrrr
This was a great video, very much enjoyed watching you two!
Loved this, as you are two of the RTS streamers I love to watch!
2 of my favorite content creators together, what an unexpected treat
Warcraft 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. I would love to see you play more of it.
Great video!
So good to see you playing wc3. I enjoy both your and grubby’s videos & it’s cool to see you two in the same video
The live stream was amazing, thank you! 🤩
Thanks, fellas! This was a delight
So excited for more content creators in wc3. One of these days I will work up the courage to really take on this massive challenge of a game.
the words of thrall from the last orc mission "Yet another day i never thought id live to see"
Awesome, there is no game like Warcraft 3 out there, it is very unique and fun. Glad you try it
holy shit this is amazing! please do more!!
This was a great watch! Hope you continue playing WC3!
love the content and the two streamers in this vid nice guys keep growing the channels :D
Absolutely love this content! Would love to see more of your wc3 progress!
Man, Marc is so good. I'm super impressed with how quickly he picked up the game, though not surprised. I've been playing WC3 on and off for 20 years now and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat me lol.
My two favorite RTS streamers in a single steam!?! I'm so happy :D :D :D
Uthermal is really inguinius/creative. Will be interesting!
Oh my gosh, that chat at the end of the second game was gold, HAHAHA. But better at first WC3 1v1 games than all the other playerbase perhaps, thanks to the Grub
Subscribed, hoping there'll be regular wc3 content! Well played, love your energy!
You guys make awesome duo, we need more of this!
Omg!! Grubby and uThermal in a video?? this is the best collab ❤❤
Would love more content with Grubby!
Happy to learn WC3 through the convo between these two!
I really enjoyed this!!! Great content!! 👍
Awesome Colab, I hope we see more!!
Love seeing proplayers trying another games for the first time. That's intresting video
two of my favorite creators, super fun to watch
Woooooh...this is like avengers crossing over with Xmen!!! This is awesome.
Two of my favorites youtubers in the same vid! Please more!!! : DDD
two of my favorite youtubers in the same video? excellent
Yes this is great stuff mark. Would love to see more.
Won my sub with Warcraft3. Keep it up, thank you! Damn, wonderful movement and macro indeed for a new player of warcraft.
Grubbys ability to explain the game in simple terms is astonishing
This game was core memories for me. That was when DOTA actually came out on custom games. Awesome times!
I could watch coaching sessions like this for a long time
its great see you bouth in a coaching game!
Grubby should get payed by blizzard for the marketing he does for blizzard ngl