I am not a expert but I have owned the timeline and now I own the Boss DD-500. When I went to guitar center and tried the DD-500 I was very Expressed with how warm the pedal was. There are many different ways of manipulating the Boss internally.. the Knobs are just a quick way to increase, Time, strength, tone, mod... Internally is where tweaking gets all the intricate details. Let say you only want want only one tape head: Sweet! or maybe tape head 2 or tape head 3 or all three at once, Its their. Also Boss has upgrade with increased perimeter internally.. so the pedal is evolving into everything one could want.. Boss has the ability to shape your repeats to be darker or brighter.. Remember the pedal is getting better.. . In the Video the did the Boss a disfavor because the internal setting where not in-gaged.. no warble or tweaked tape... Love the Echo Plex....
Strymon's Timeline has a reverb quality to its delay sound while the DD-500 doesn't. In this sense it's like apples to oranges, I'd prefer the DD-500 not only because of price but because I have a nice reverb pedal which can compliment it.
I completely agree, I was having to create a separate patch on my bigsky that was less reverb whenever I used my timeline delay to offset the extra reverb the timeline has. I sold my timeline and bought the DD500 and I'm happy.
whether your just a hobbyist or your in two different bands like me you cant go wrong with either of these delays. In a band context,when you have to constantly make adjustments in a live settings for the sake of your "TONE" then the fun factor is gone baby! Alot of the things I've found that I was so anal about don't really matter when 4 or 5 other guys in the band are cranking loud! specialy true when couple of guys from the audience 10ft from stage are half drunk,they don't give a dam about your echoplex settings or what milliseconds did you tap the tempo at. That's not to say ditch musicianship, all I'm saying is stop nit picking stuff and go have a good time. Whether your going for a bang for your money or for instant gratification either one of these will do. What I've come to realization with from gigging almost every weekend, nobody gives a dam... So just get either one and have a good time,or get both if you could afford it...
+oh “mr.rokkstah” please! spoken like a true working musician - agreed. Face it, if you're only making 50 buck a gig, do you really need another 500 piece of gear? It ain't gonna make you play any better....
$50-$75 a gig ha! that's just gas money one way to a gig half the time! depending on how far. By the way,I do have a descent day job that pays the rent and bills. I gig at different venues with different bands for the love of music and playing guitar,I never did it for money but when cash is handed to me at the end of the evening while loading my gear,I don't turn it down either! cheers my friend!
I just got a DD-500 today. After menu diving in it, it's clear this thing has beastly capabilities that will take me years to explore. If you are trying to decide between the two, I think I can help you decide. If you will just take the presets and run with it, I'd probably take the Timeline. If you will ever envision yourself hooking it to a computer to design or upload other people's patches, then you're a DD-500 person.
For what it’s worth, both sound great. With Strymon, I prefer the sound of their smaller, dedicated delays to any Timeline equivalent setting. The big Boss is a fantastic all round toolkit that can do modulation work as well (chorus/tremolo/vib/phase-ish stuff) AND you always have the option of two different delays (with their own pan/EQ etc) on tap. So...I ended up choosing the Boss DD-500, Strymon El Capistan and DIG. It doesn’t mean you have to use them all at once but they cover a lot of territory for different moods and song types.
@@orryfishburne5326 get the dd500, its better than the timeline. Has higher resolution. Can run two delays in parallel. Better screen for easier editing. Plus its a lot cheaper.
@@effector3659 thanks for your reply and insight. I decided to order the Timeline early today before i saw ur message, but im still on the fence about it to be honest. I am curious to see for myself why people are so obsessed with Strymon products and if its as amazing as people claim, but i still might switch to the DD-500 depending on how much i like the Timeline or not when it arrives. I have the MD-500 and I absolutely love its editing capabilities. That screen is super helpful, and makes it a really easy and intuitive process.
I myself prefer the sound of the timeline. Instant gratification with the sounds. It’s just beautiful, while the boss really didn’t speak to me. Still, i think both are useless if you need to switch fast from a delay you have already running on pedal A to a delay on Pedal B. The lag switching in the timeline is about half a second and the boss is almost a second or two during which the sound is dry. If you need this switch of delays to happen as fast as pressing a distortion pedal then both are utterly useless no matter how well or bad they sound. And no reviews of these pedals show this mainly because the reviewers are manipulating the pedal with their hands (switching pedals) and so this huge lag problem is not noticeable. Hey, happened to me. Spent about one hour testing the timeline at the store (with the pedal on a stand) and had to buy it because of the sound. Got to the first rehearsal and while using pedal A with a slap back and needing to change to another delay, boom, where was the delay of pedal B when I needed it? Too late for the first note of the chorus. Thought it was my mistake but no. The cool guys at strymon told me that there is indeed a lag. So had to return it. Today went back to the store to test the dd500 and now immediately with my feet and bam. Even worse than the timeline. Wish the reviews mention this detail. So far only the DL4 does this switch without a lag. But the sound is a bit meh so had to let it go. In fact that’s why I initially went to the timeline. Because the sound of the dl4 was a bit weak. But now I’m missing it while I hunt for a pedal that does this right.
damn, this is huge. Did you find something that suit up? Im really trying to find a good stereo in out delay pedal, yes for the sound, but it HAS TO BE the most effective possible for live shows.. peace
Finally, I find someone mentioning this...and from a portuguese fella! bought a flashback 2x4 a while ago and the lag switching between A and B was ridiculous. I actually though the pedal was broken, I couldn't find anyone talking about this anywhere (I even posted on forums, spammed dozens of youtube reviews and nothing). What is even weirder is that I was eventually able to find a user of the previous version of that same pedal, asked him about this...he sent me a video, and from what I could get the lag time was actually non existent in the older version (or maybe really short). Knowing this I just returned mine, thinking that it was a factory flaw or something. Recently I bought a timeline to replace that same unit, and this was one of the first things I checked. Maybe you have a better ear for those things than I do, but I actually don't notice that much lag switching problem in the timeline...although it does seem to differ according to delay type. Still, it is not nearly as problematic as it was on my flashback, so I'm keeping it. Anyways, I don't understand how this is not talked about more...it really is a big problem in these types of pedals
Both amazing, yet Boss sounds warmer to me, Timeline is more edgy (which is nice too). I also prefer the Boss big display with tons of functions. The desktop software of Boss is simply amazing to go even deeper (try the "pattern mode" and get in a polyrhythmic heaven...). I choose DD-500 indeed!
Everyone's got a hard on for the Timeline...great pedal for sure if you have the money, but Boss definitely stepped up their game! I'd have to say Boss wins because it's cheaper lol both amazing pedals
The TL's tape delays sounds more saturated and has some higher pitched overtones. While the DD500's sounds like too much of the clean, original sound is being passed through, it's not as saturated sounding, even on the RE-201 setting. I don't like how the tape decays sputters at the end on the RE-201 setting but I think I prefer the DD500's RE-201 setting over the Tape setting. It also has that trademark Boss mid-range overtone sound to it like the DD-20. I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I think the El Cap is still a better Tape Delay.
Hi let me thank you first "shnobel" cause I've always enjoyed your reviews! I honestly don't think any of these machines would have any problem rocking in a capable hand but I felt the DD500 sounds a bit more digital if it makes sense at all! thanx again man!
i WISH the DD500 had some measure of control over the saturation of the tape delays. Thats the one thing I cant alter and one of the biggest reasons, IMO, that I cant make my 500 sound as good as my el capistan. Close, but not quite...
I prefer the hi clarity delay of the Strymon over the slightly more analog sound of the Boss. I say that because I already have a great analog Vapor Trails by Seymour Duncan
I'm really happy with my DD-500. It's not hard to make it sounds like the Timeline...anyway what's the point? You will never play them side by side in the real live situation :)
Its impossible to choose between them. I really appreciate you making all the different modes in a shootout between both units. Its been really help, but im still on the fence for either or. I like the more organic, warmer tone of the Timeline, but i also like the brighter, more percussive sound the DD-500 has. I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses tonally and fundamentally as well. The Boss has a better screen for deep editing which is a huge plus for me. I guess my real question is, is it possible to get that warmth the Timeline gets with the DD-500, and is the Timeline capable to achieve that brightness the DD-500 can do?
I mean, they both sound great and all that, and if you were to tinker with the Boss's extensive menus you could set it up to sound even better than this demo shows. The problem for me is that I'm savvy and I don't like to, nor can I afford to waste my money. If you're lucky you can pick up a pre owned Boss for a little over £200.....Or if you're lucky a second time you might get a Strymon for a little under £400. They always tend to hold their value that's for sure. If I was going to buy 1 of these then I'd go for the Boss. I'd much rather spend £200 than £400. Then I could buy something else I wanted with the £200 I'd saved by not wasting my money on a Strymon, so as far as I'm concerned, buying the Boss is a win-win. 👍
In demo videos the timeline sounds better in stereo. But i actually read that you can improve stereo image on boss dd500. You have to pan them L/R and control the wave pedal..here a guy talks about it on forum www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/psa-boss-dd-500-can-do-killer-stereo.1642517/ Can you please make a video comparison of these settings vs stock?
+Johnny Way yeah too bad Boss dd-500 presets aren't taking the unit to its full potential. You can actually tweak the thing to sound as good as anything else, but it takes a lot of time and discovery. Its okay. I'm sure theres some guy who is putting all of this together and will share to the internet
Great demo. And in stereo. That makes the differences obvious. Every manufacturer can buy the best digitale components on the international market. The more they buy, the cheaper they are, and a part of that margin your can pass on to the customer. Thats why the boss is cheaper. But the most value lies in the research and in the ingenious ideas of the creative mind and the software engineer. Even after existing quite a long time on the market, no other delay comes close to strymon's tape delay algorithms in the timeline and - even better - the el capistan. 32 bit don't make a good sound. Stupid, to put that on top of the marketing message. 1. The tape echo emulation of the timeline is much more realistic. 2. The stereo ambience is dramatically better in the timeline. 3. The factory demos of strymon products are so much better. The Roland and Boss demos are expensive, blown up marketing shows that don't help making a buying decision. This is the first demo that helped me to decide: I will buy strymon's el capistan.
+Matthew Marcy Yes. A serious session guitarist needs at least two kinds of delays: Digital Delay types and Tape Delay types. For these big and wide 80ies clean tones or high gain solo tones you need digital delays + detune or chorus + Reverb. An analog delay (like the el capistan) can go just with your plain guitar sound because analog delays produce more space. You can dial in a bit of chorus with the special tape parameters and add the room with the diffuse and darker delay timbre. And with the el capistan you can add spring reverb emulation on top. Too bad that it has no presets. I use a t.c g-force for in conjunction with a lexicon hall for the 80ies sounds. I use my timeline if I need a more pure delay sound. I love the delay of the timeline (especially the tape algorithm). The el capistan must be even better. It's on my whishlist.
To be fair and honest the DD 500 is a better delay when you take into account the price point. It has better digital delays than the Timeline but other delays are not quite as good as the Timeline so if they cost the same I would have to say that they were about on par with each other but knowing that you can save over 100 bucks on the DD500 that makes it a much better delay than the Timeline in MHO.
interesting, at least on my laptop this demo sounds like a widespread stereo with the timeline but the dd500 sounds mono. Totally different image....is it that way in real life?
In a band or mix, give me the boss all day. It's night and day difference in how warm it is compared to the grainy digitized (obviously synthetic) timeline. I went through the same thing. Had the timeline, got a DD500 in a trade and within a couple of days, the timeline was gone. Even the bandmated noticed how natural the difference was. With clean tones it's not as noticeable, but with any kind of gain and the boss handles it so well, stays out of the way and definitely doesn't add the color that the timeline does. I should have learned my lesson with the Flint which was a massive disappointment and my first taste of strymon. That said, if you want a good synth delay, the timeline is a solid choice.
Really disappointed with the DD-500, which is a shame because the MD-500 is amazing. Strymon still wins on tape and analogye emulation. Boss falls more into the eventide area when it comes to tape and analogue emulation. Their algorithms are not as good, but on the flip side their units are more versatile. Decision comes down to what you want to do with it, the DD-500 if you want a more up to date pedal, but if you want tape and or analogue emulation, Strymon hands down, their algorithms for this stuff is simply superior. DD-500 just sounds digital. Having said that, definitely go the MD-500 over the Mobius, I can't stress that enough.
So to compare a "tape" model you turn off the modulation depth and speed, seriously?? Has to be the dumbest thing ever! Styrmon is vastly higher end quality. DD-500 a great pedal and full of features for the cost level. I require a ms readout and presets and it has that better than most. I would say the DD-500 is "the delay" choice at this point in time. But outdoing Strymon and Eventide, naaaaa. Listen how beautiful and rich the Timeline is even with dufus having the modulation off!
I bought the DD-500 based on this video. Couldn't be happier with my purchase. Im rarely disappointed in anything Boss does.
Something about the TL that the Boss can't replicate. Some depth. All these years later and the TL is still killing it!
I am not a expert but I have owned the timeline and now I own the Boss DD-500. When I went to guitar center and tried the DD-500 I was very Expressed with how warm the pedal was.
There are many different ways of manipulating the Boss internally.. the Knobs are just a quick way to increase, Time, strength, tone, mod... Internally is where tweaking gets all the intricate details.
Let say you only want want only one tape head: Sweet! or maybe tape head 2 or tape head 3 or all three at once, Its their.
Also Boss has upgrade with increased perimeter internally.. so the pedal is evolving into everything one could want.. Boss has the ability to shape your repeats to be darker or brighter.. Remember the pedal is getting better.. .
In the Video the did the Boss a disfavor because the internal setting where not in-gaged.. no warble or tweaked tape...
Love the Echo Plex....
The DD-500 complements the BigSky quite nicely. And with the V2 update, it sounds even better!
Is there a V2 DD-500?
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The DD-500, the fact that you can run two separate delays simultaneously gives a huge advantage over the TL.
I watched this video a third time and realized that neither of these pedals suck. They are both awesome.
Strymon's Timeline has a reverb quality to its delay sound while the DD-500 doesn't. In this sense it's like apples to oranges, I'd prefer the DD-500 not only because of price but because I have a nice reverb pedal which can compliment it.
+Patr2ckT which reverb?
+Eric sin sinner Neunaber Wet Reverb
Patr2ckT
Nemesis is my last delay
I completely agree, I was having to create a separate patch on my bigsky that was less reverb whenever I used my timeline delay to offset the extra reverb the timeline has. I sold my timeline and bought the DD500 and I'm happy.
whether your just a hobbyist or your in two different bands like me you cant go wrong with either of these delays. In a band context,when you have to constantly make adjustments in a live settings for the sake of your "TONE" then the fun factor is gone baby! Alot of the things I've found that I was so anal about don't really matter when 4 or 5 other guys in the band are cranking loud! specialy true when couple of guys from the audience 10ft from stage are half drunk,they don't give a dam about your echoplex settings or what milliseconds did you tap the tempo at. That's not to say ditch musicianship, all I'm saying is stop nit picking stuff and go have a good time. Whether your going for a bang for your money or for instant gratification either one of these will do. What I've come to realization with from gigging almost every weekend, nobody gives a dam... So just get either one and have a good time,or get both if you could afford it...
+oh “mr.rokkstah” please! spoken like a true working musician - agreed. Face it, if you're only making 50 buck a gig, do you really need another 500 piece of gear? It ain't gonna make you play any better....
$50-$75 a gig ha! that's just gas money one way to a gig half the time! depending on how far. By the way,I do have a descent day job that pays the rent and bills. I gig at different venues with different bands for the love of music and playing guitar,I never did it for money but when cash is handed to me at the end of the evening while loading my gear,I don't turn it down either! cheers my friend!
Absolutely true.Knobs tweaking is for studio recording use.The rest is go out make it simple and do sound great!
I just got a DD-500 today. After menu diving in it, it's clear this thing has beastly capabilities that will take me years to explore. If you are trying to decide between the two, I think I can help you decide. If you will just take the presets and run with it, I'd probably take the Timeline. If you will ever envision yourself hooking it to a computer to design or upload other people's patches, then you're a DD-500 person.
For what it’s worth, both sound great. With Strymon, I prefer the sound of their smaller, dedicated delays to any Timeline equivalent setting. The big Boss is a fantastic all round toolkit that can do modulation work as well (chorus/tremolo/vib/phase-ish stuff) AND you always have the option of two different delays (with their own pan/EQ etc) on tap. So...I ended up choosing the Boss DD-500, Strymon El Capistan and DIG. It doesn’t mean you have to use them all at once but they cover a lot of territory for different moods and song types.
I re-watched this video and hands down or up the Boss DD-500 is the best. So I returned the Strymon and purchased the Boss DD-500.
Are u still happy with your switch? I really want to upgrade my delay capabilities, but im really torn between these 2 units.
@@orryfishburne5326 get the dd500, its better than the timeline. Has higher resolution. Can run two delays in parallel. Better screen for easier editing. Plus its a lot cheaper.
@@effector3659 thanks for your reply and insight. I decided to order the Timeline early today before i saw ur message, but im still on the fence about it to be honest. I am curious to see for myself why people are so obsessed with Strymon products and if its as amazing as people claim, but i still might switch to the DD-500 depending on how much i like the Timeline or not when it arrives. I have the MD-500 and I absolutely love its editing capabilities. That screen is super helpful, and makes it a really easy and intuitive process.
I myself prefer the sound of the timeline. Instant gratification with the sounds. It’s just beautiful, while the boss really didn’t speak to me. Still, i think both are useless if you need to switch fast from a delay you have already running on pedal A to a delay on Pedal B. The lag switching in the timeline is about half a second and the boss is almost a second or two during which the sound is dry. If you need this switch of delays to happen as fast as pressing a distortion pedal then both are utterly useless no matter how well or bad they sound. And no reviews of these pedals show this mainly because the reviewers are manipulating the pedal with their hands (switching pedals) and so this huge lag problem is not noticeable. Hey, happened to me. Spent about one hour testing the timeline at the store (with the pedal on a stand) and had to buy it because of the sound. Got to the first rehearsal and while using pedal A with a slap back and needing to change to another delay, boom, where was the delay of pedal B when I needed it? Too late for the first note of the chorus. Thought it was my mistake but no. The cool guys at strymon told me that there is indeed a lag. So had to return it. Today went back to the store to test the dd500 and now immediately with my feet and bam. Even worse than the timeline. Wish the reviews mention this detail. So far only the DL4 does this switch without a lag. But the sound is a bit meh so had to let it go. In fact that’s why I initially went to the timeline. Because the sound of the dl4 was a bit weak. But now I’m missing it while I hunt for a pedal that does this right.
damn, this is huge. Did you find something that suit up? Im really trying to find a good stereo in out delay pedal, yes for the sound, but it HAS TO BE the most effective possible for live shows.. peace
Finally, I find someone mentioning this...and from a portuguese fella! bought a flashback 2x4 a while ago and the lag switching between A and B was ridiculous. I actually though the pedal was broken, I couldn't find anyone talking about this anywhere (I even posted on forums, spammed dozens of youtube reviews and nothing). What is even weirder is that I was eventually able to find a user of the previous version of that same pedal, asked him about this...he sent me a video, and from what I could get the lag time was actually non existent in the older version (or maybe really short). Knowing this I just returned mine, thinking that it was a factory flaw or something. Recently I bought a timeline to replace that same unit, and this was one of the first things I checked. Maybe you have a better ear for those things than I do, but I actually don't notice that much lag switching problem in the timeline...although it does seem to differ according to delay type. Still, it is not nearly as problematic as it was on my flashback, so I'm keeping it. Anyways, I don't understand how this is not talked about more...it really is a big problem in these types of pedals
Both amazing, yet Boss sounds warmer to me, Timeline is more edgy (which is nice too). I also prefer the Boss big display with tons of functions. The desktop software of Boss is simply amazing to go even deeper (try the "pattern mode" and get in a polyrhythmic heaven...). I choose DD-500 indeed!
I watched this video and purchased the Strymon. Hands up then down the best.
Nice comparison... besides the delays, what else are you using? I mean the guitar and another effect. Thanks
Everyone's got a hard on for the Timeline...great pedal for sure if you have the money, but Boss definitely stepped up their game! I'd have to say Boss wins because it's cheaper lol both amazing pedals
I'd love to see a comparison of the Boss MD-500, DD-500 and RV-500 against the Boss GT1. I wonder if the algorithms are really different...
The TL's tape delays sounds more saturated and has some higher pitched overtones. While the DD500's sounds like too much of the clean, original sound is being passed through, it's not as saturated sounding, even on the RE-201 setting. I don't like how the tape decays sputters at the end on the RE-201 setting but I think I prefer the DD500's RE-201 setting over the Tape setting. It also has that trademark Boss mid-range overtone sound to it like the DD-20. I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I think the El Cap is still a better Tape Delay.
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let me thank you first "shnobel" cause I've always enjoyed your reviews! I honestly don't think any of these machines would have any problem rocking in a capable hand but I felt the DD500 sounds a bit more digital if it makes sense at all!
thanx again man!
i WISH the DD500 had some measure of control over the saturation of the tape delays. Thats the one thing I cant alter and one of the biggest reasons, IMO, that I cant make my 500 sound as good as my el capistan. Close, but not quite...
Thanks for that demo,was going to buy the Strymon, will now get the Boss instead.
I prefer the hi clarity delay of the Strymon over the slightly more analog sound of the Boss. I say that because I already have a great analog Vapor Trails by Seymour Duncan
Timeline anyday it does everything better than boss.
Both are fantastic units
The boss sounds damn good imho. Clear sound 32 bit !
They both sound great!
dd500, the more versatile and clean of the two.
I'm really happy with my DD-500. It's not hard to make it sounds like the Timeline...anyway what's the point? You will never play them side by side in the real live situation :)
Its impossible to choose between them. I really appreciate you making all the different modes in a shootout between both units. Its been really help, but im still on the fence for either or. I like the more organic, warmer tone of the Timeline, but i also like the brighter, more percussive sound the DD-500 has. I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses tonally and fundamentally as well. The Boss has a better screen for deep editing which is a huge plus for me. I guess my real question is, is it possible to get that warmth the Timeline gets with the DD-500, and is the Timeline capable to achieve that brightness the DD-500 can do?
Is it just me or the DD500's left channel is clipping?
Yes, that's right 😉 by me to
Prefer the boss for more standard sounds. Prefer the strymon for more ambient sounds. Need both.
I mean, they both sound great and all that, and if you were to tinker with the Boss's extensive menus you could set it up to sound even better than this demo shows.
The problem for me is that I'm savvy and I don't like to, nor can I afford to waste my money. If you're lucky you can pick up a pre owned Boss for a little over £200.....Or if you're lucky a second time you might get a Strymon for a little under £400. They always tend to hold their value that's for sure.
If I was going to buy 1 of these then I'd go for the Boss. I'd much rather spend £200 than £400. Then I could buy something else I wanted with the £200 I'd saved by not wasting my money on a Strymon, so as far as I'm concerned, buying the Boss is a win-win. 👍
In demo videos the timeline sounds better in stereo. But i actually read that you can improve stereo image on boss dd500. You have to pan them L/R and control the wave pedal..here a guy talks about it on forum www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/psa-boss-dd-500-can-do-killer-stereo.1642517/ Can you please make a video comparison of these settings vs stock?
+Johnny Way yeah too bad Boss dd-500 presets aren't taking the unit to its full potential. You can actually tweak the thing to sound as good as anything else, but it takes a lot of time and discovery. Its okay. I'm sure theres some guy who is putting all of this together and will share to the internet
Good god...is there anything better than a good tape delay sound
Gonna stick with my DD-20
Great demo. And in stereo. That makes the differences obvious. Every manufacturer can buy the best digitale components on the international market. The more they buy, the cheaper they are, and a part of that margin your can pass on to the customer. Thats why the boss is cheaper. But the most value lies in the research and in the ingenious ideas of the creative mind and the software engineer. Even after existing quite a long time on the market, no other delay comes close to strymon's tape delay algorithms in the timeline and - even better - the el capistan. 32 bit don't make a good sound. Stupid, to put that on top of the marketing message.
1. The tape echo emulation of the timeline is much more realistic.
2. The stereo ambience is dramatically better in the timeline.
3. The factory demos of strymon products are so much better. The Roland and Boss demos are expensive, blown up marketing shows that don't help making a buying decision.
This is the first demo that helped me to decide: I will buy strymon's el capistan.
+Matthew Marcy
Yes. A serious session guitarist needs at least two kinds of delays: Digital Delay types and Tape Delay types. For these big and wide 80ies clean tones or high gain solo tones you need digital delays + detune or chorus + Reverb. An analog delay (like the el capistan) can go just with your plain guitar sound because analog delays produce more space. You can dial in a bit of chorus with the special tape parameters and add the room with the diffuse and darker delay timbre. And with the el capistan you can add spring reverb emulation on top. Too bad that it has no presets.
I use a t.c g-force for in conjunction with a lexicon hall for the 80ies sounds. I use my timeline if I need a more pure delay sound. I love the delay of the timeline (especially the tape algorithm). The el capistan must be even better. It's on my whishlist.
To be fair and honest the DD 500 is a better delay when you take into account the price point. It has better digital delays than the Timeline but other delays are not quite as good as the Timeline so if they cost the same I would have to say that they were about on par with each other but knowing that you can save over 100 bucks on the DD500 that makes it a much better delay than the Timeline in MHO.
Sounds great. But somehow I prefer sticking to my simple one trick-stompboxes.
The DD500 doesn't has much wow and flutter and the repeats seem quite static, strymon definetly sounds more rich
Dd500 is great! Own one and for the money! It's fantastic.
I'm glad I invested in the Timeline. Boss is not even close.
+Paul Saunders Worship Musician Note-Sense sounds to me like they've added a reverb algorithm to the preset.
interesting, at least on my laptop this demo sounds like a widespread stereo with the timeline but the dd500 sounds mono. Totally different image....is it that way in real life?
In a band or mix, give me the boss all day. It's night and day difference in how warm it is compared to the grainy digitized (obviously synthetic) timeline. I went through the same thing. Had the timeline, got a DD500 in a trade and within a couple of days, the timeline was gone. Even the bandmated noticed how natural the difference was. With clean tones it's not as noticeable, but with any kind of gain and the boss handles it so well, stays out of the way and definitely doesn't add the color that the timeline does. I should have learned my lesson with the Flint which was a massive disappointment and my first taste of strymon. That said, if you want a good synth delay, the timeline is a solid choice.
all boss needs now is a "Boss RV-500"
heh
And a, and one of those, and a, maybe I'll just buy another, and and and... Yeap. I've heard that before too!
And today they announced exactly that pedal! :)
Done
Wahh you got it!
timeline without hesitation
Really disappointed with the DD-500, which is a shame because the MD-500 is amazing. Strymon still wins on tape and analogye emulation. Boss falls more into the eventide area when it comes to tape and analogue emulation. Their algorithms are not as good, but on the flip side their units are more versatile. Decision comes down to what you want to do with it, the DD-500 if you want a more up to date pedal, but if you want tape and or analogue emulation, Strymon hands down, their algorithms for this stuff is simply superior. DD-500 just sounds digital. Having said that, definitely go the MD-500 over the Mobius, I can't stress that enough.
DD-500 sounds much more real
Only from my ear standpoint..my observation is the timeline sounds warmer, the dd-500 sounds brittle.
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So to compare a "tape" model you turn off the modulation depth and speed, seriously?? Has to be the dumbest thing ever! Styrmon is vastly higher end quality. DD-500 a great pedal and full of features for the cost level. I require a ms readout and presets and it has that better than most. I would say the DD-500 is "the delay" choice at this point in time. But outdoing Strymon and Eventide, naaaaa. Listen how beautiful and rich the Timeline is even with dufus having the modulation off!
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the delays of the Strymon are very out of phase and that's all.
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