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  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria  День тому +14

    Discussing with the @RoyalArmouriesMuseum Curator of European Edged Weapons, Iason Tzouriadis, how ancient weapons survived, and how we can read their history from their condition.
    Royal Armouries swords at Museum Replicas Limited (USA): bit.ly/3V9MGeV
    Royal Armouries Shop (UK): shop.royalarmouries.org/collections/windlass-swords

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc День тому +25

    I'm fascinated at how "everyday" this sort of thing was at one time, and fairly recently at that. When the Eglinton Tournament was held in 1839, lots of the competitors basically got their armor and weapons by just rummaging around in their attics, where great great great great grandpa's cuirass had been hanging on a peg for three centuries or so. "In our halls is hung armoury of the invincible knights of old" was a once tangible fact rather than a poetic metaphor.

  • @RoyalArmouriesMuseum
    @RoyalArmouriesMuseum 3 години тому

    Great video Matt! Loved having you visit us ⚔

  • @edi9892
    @edi9892 День тому +19

    In my first flat, I put two swords on the wall. They were brand new Albion Kingmaker. It only took three months for the backside of the pommel to turn red from rust!
    It was an interior wall and far from windows or anything related to plumbing.
    It rusted that bad despite being oiled!
    I polished it (huge work and didn't get rid of all the rust) and it instantly rusted again!
    I had to buy renaissance wax to prevent my sword from disappearing!

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  День тому +15

      Atmosphere in houses is weird and complex - there is one corner of my garage where things rust, but not in the rest of the garage. I think it's something to do with different temperatures meeting and causing condensation.

    • @TijmenHatesads
      @TijmenHatesads День тому +1

      It could be moisture, but I've also seen brake dust deposit on metal things and cause them to rust.

    • @tomhossain2099
      @tomhossain2099 День тому +2

      Generally places where animals live end up wet because we breath out wet air

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis День тому +14

    Ok, this is beautiful! I love this type of content.
    As an idea for you to consider: please make videos like this when you pass by Leeds (and it seems you do this quite often). Just pick three swords from the collection and talk about them. Maybe it will even help you to gauge which swords appeal to people for the 3rd batch of reproductions. Just saying...

  • @tiltskillet7085
    @tiltskillet7085 День тому +7

    Great video. I suspect isn't going to be the most popular focus, but I enjoy it when you go more into archaeology. Silly question: Is there a Curator of European Blunt Weapons?

  • @markkodryk829
    @markkodryk829 День тому +59

    Just checking, if you are still Matt Easton.

    • @trollfiddler
      @trollfiddler День тому +9

      Nowadays I expect him to say "I've been Nosferatu" 😆

    • @TijmenHatesads
      @TijmenHatesads День тому +10

      As you can see this video is mirrored, making him Gloss Weston. Next video will be on lightsabers.

    • @bushnut8305
      @bushnut8305 День тому +1

      He does have a certain look, doesn't he...?

    • @peterlynchchannel
      @peterlynchchannel День тому +3

      Is he the owner of Cat Easton?

    • @stretch3281
      @stretch3281 19 годин тому

      ​@@trollfiddlerlol 😅😂😂

  • @mistercroc9407
    @mistercroc9407 День тому +3

    Very interesting stuff, these interviews/convos are awesome.

  • @Mulvers
    @Mulvers День тому

    Really enjoyed these videos with Iason. Being local to Leeds and having used that brilliant library for research quite a few times, it's lovely to see a UA-camr Historian I like also being there 😄

  • @XVI_Legion
    @XVI_Legion День тому +2

    Super interesting videos, great showcase of the swords and knowledge.

  • @wolfpac4934
    @wolfpac4934 19 годин тому

    Thank you gentleman for an excellent video. What I particularly liked was the analytical approach to these swords. I am an archaeologist and as archaeologists, we can never say for sure with absolute certainty. I also liked that caveat. Please keep doing these videos

  • @arislabos4559
    @arislabos4559 День тому

    Amazing video and so many interesting facts. Also, it is always good to see a fellow Greek "blade enthusiast" and such a brilliant scholar.

  • @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 День тому +1

    Marvellous Matt. Love your shows like this.

  • @michaelshelton5488
    @michaelshelton5488 День тому +6

    Jonathan Ferguson and Ian McCollum should collaborate on official Royal Armouries reproductions of historical guns

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  23 години тому +6

      Jeez, with Pietta or Uberti! That would be so amazing.

    • @evenjohansen4584
      @evenjohansen4584 3 години тому +1

      😳Hoooh! Do you _want_ the universe to explode from awesomeness?!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE День тому +2

    Thanks for the video & information ⚔️

  • @boydgrandy5769
    @boydgrandy5769 День тому +2

    The localized pitting on the Italian short sword could be a result of the manner by which it was displayed. Using some sort of sleeve or clamp at the first quarter of the blade, made of brass or bronze say, could have resulted in electrolytic corrosion that made the steel of the blade the sacrificial anode of the circuit. Moisture (condensation) would have accelerated the process.

  • @KlausBeckEwerhardy
    @KlausBeckEwerhardy День тому +1

    That was awfully interesting. Thanks for that.

  • @GrantHendrick
    @GrantHendrick День тому +3

    Very interesting commentary about how swords survived.

  • @polymathart
    @polymathart День тому +14

    We need a deep dive into Narsil: its origin, its design, its battle damage, how it kept its edge after thousands of years, and how it was reforged into Anduril.

    • @jakeshaw4952
      @jakeshaw4952 День тому +1

      Already done.

    • @ulfhedtyrsson
      @ulfhedtyrsson День тому +2

      More importantly, how they perfectly fabricated and forge welded shards of the blade together into the same sword by beating on them at a dull red heat that wouldn't even dent good steel at those temperatures. No wonder dwarves are so salty. Elves can just magically cold forge weld steel like nothing despite the dwarves being of Aulë the Smith god. Not fair bro.

    • @tl8211
      @tl8211 День тому +5

      @@ulfhedtyrsson The solution is easy: it's not the old sword. They got a new sword and just told Aragorn it was the old one LOL

    • @Suillibhain
      @Suillibhain 17 годин тому

      It wasn't real. It was a story. Tolkien wasn't a conservationist that I am aware of. Let fiction be fiction. Read it for the story it tells, not for its science. Fiction isn't science, contrary to the musings of the conspiracy and Peudoscientist idiots (cough... Gram Hancock... cough)

  • @windalfalatar333
    @windalfalatar333 День тому +2

    What is the opposite of a fuller called? The third sword you demonstrated has this. I really love these videos when you discuss matters with other experts (such as Toby Capwell and this chap).

    • @windalfalatar333
      @windalfalatar333 22 години тому

      Please, Matt, what is the opposite of a fuller? Sorry for insisting, but it's my autism acting up.

    • @dustronyt4565
      @dustronyt4565 22 години тому

      it's not the opposite of a fuller, it's just no fuller. This arming sword has flattened diamond cross-section, so it's really just one of it's edges that wasn't removed cause no fuller was made

    • @windalfalatar333
      @windalfalatar333 21 годину тому

      @@dustronyt4565 I see. Being an edge of the diamond section, could it then be termed a 'bevel'?

  • @SeanCrosser
    @SeanCrosser День тому +1

    The chape holding moisture explains why my bastard sword, that I store upright in my room, has corrosion develop right above the tip. Good to know!

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian День тому +5

    The Cinquedea was perhaps on a mantle, resting loosely in the scabbard, with the corroded edge of the blade downward.

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens День тому +1

      However both edges were corroded on opposite faces

    • @guyplachy9688
      @guyplachy9688 День тому

      "The Cinquedea was perhaps on a mantle, resting loosely in the scabbard, with the corroded edge of the blade downward."

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens День тому

      @@guyplachy9688 My bad, however the explanation still doesn't quite check out as a mantle is likely to be too dry for the kind of corrosion as a result of the scabbard design that Matt is referring to.

  • @DogsaladSalad
    @DogsaladSalad День тому +2

    i would love to know how many surviving swords are slightly bent! seemingly a lot of them have a bend in the blade. was that normal or was that just from age and mistreatment?

  • @ryankolick4117
    @ryankolick4117 День тому +1

    A really cool sword I think to talk about is in the royal armories in Leeds (hint hint) it's a "falchion" that looks to be made by modifying an old arming sword

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa День тому +4

    Great video on an interesting topic that is rarely discussed. I wonder how much corrosion and rust affects historical artifacts that are very old (eg. 2000+ year old swords) even if they look like they're in decent condition. Do modern sword replica makers add a lot of additional iron/steel mass to swords to take into account the original artifact's potential lost material from rust and corrosion?

    • @thekaxmax
      @thekaxmax День тому +3

      A lot. It's why ones that aren't corroded much are so celebrated

    • @titanscerw
      @titanscerw День тому +1

      Compare eg stats of Royal Armouries specific items
      IX.144
      IX.2141
      IX.2638
      stats on their respective Royal Armouries websites with stats on their todays replikas it is not by much of difference in case of well preserved less corroded pieces.
      Hope that helps.
      +][+

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 День тому

    These have been great videos

  • @billberg1264
    @billberg1264 День тому +2

    I was immensely confused by the dao until you referred to it as a dao. With it displayed on a table next to two clearly European swords, and possessing a blade that seemed plausible for a European sword, I just kind of assumed it was European. But then that handle.
    I guess I'm a little disappointed that it didn't turn out to be some sort of double-edged messer. I've always kind of wished those existed. Well, it seems the Elmslie type 5b has once again successfully defended its place as my favorite European sword.

    • @CISCambridge
      @CISCambridge 23 години тому

      Do you mean the cinquedea? Italian 15/16th century.

    • @billberg1264
      @billberg1264 20 годин тому

      @@CISCambridge Apparently, yes. It sounded to me like he was saying "Qin [something or another] dao." If I had remembered how long ago the Qin dynasty was, I may have been more credulous.

  • @rogerlafrance6355
    @rogerlafrance6355 День тому +2

    Survival is rare considering, they were pulled off the wall and reworked to serve in the latest war or adventure for many hundreds of years.

  • @Hangman404
    @Hangman404 9 годин тому

    Hi Matt, thanks for the interesting video. A related topic that I would be very interested in is the wear and tear caused by combat and what it can tell us about the techniques and intensity of a fight. Is it possible to determine how sharp different parts of a blade actually were in comparison to modern blades?

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT День тому +1

    Leather scabbard can deteriorate and miss grow in it keeping it damp

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT День тому +1

    Blades can be covered in hard black corrosion and later the corrosion removed. Most swords have been completely covered in corrosion and probably several times between cleanings.

  • @bcscenery9254
    @bcscenery9254 День тому +2

    So, Excalibur could be perfectly preserved in the mud of the Dozmary Pool ?

  • @wrekced
    @wrekced День тому +1

    At about 23:50 you spoke about the engraving on the recasso of that sword from the other video and it made me wonder (again) what you might see if you were to use a magnaflux system on that sword. Magnaflux is non-destructive and could show details of the engraving that are not visible anymore. They use magnaflux systems to recover erased serial numbers off guns and other metal items in crime investigations. Its not 100% effective at revealing hidden markings, but I bet you could get a pretty good idea of what the engraving looked like originally if you used that method. Since the method is basically to put oil/fluid with very fine steel particles in it on the surface to be tested, then expose the object to a strong, evenly distributed magnetic field, there is very little risk to the sword. There are vehicle repair shops that have magnaflux systems for finding hidden cracks in things like cylinder heads and engine blocks. You could probably find a shop that would let/help you use their equipment to look at that sword in exchange for some publicity. I think it would be really cool to see the whole engraving on that sword. I bet that having access to a magnaflux system would be very usefull because it could (non-destructively) reveal hidden details on other items as well.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  23 години тому +1

      Yes it might work, I honestly don't know much about it. I have only heard of them a few times in regards to criminal investigations.

  • @georgysb
    @georgysb День тому +3

    Now I'm interested if at the mile deep bottom of the Black Sea iron objects are well preserved due to anaerobic condition despite the salt water. Or hydrogen sulfide reach salt water agressively dissolves iron?

    • @Joe-Przybranowski
      @Joe-Przybranowski 21 годину тому +1

      I was intrigued by your question so I looked it up and discovered the answer 'sometimes'.
      Apparently if the oxygen is low enough metal won't corrode quickly regardless of salt levels.

  • @311Bob
    @311Bob День тому +2

    I wonder if any families still hold a family's sword from medieval times and who has the oldest.

  • @matthewdavies2057
    @matthewdavies2057 День тому +2

    Would liquid automotive wax be as protective as museum wax on sword blades?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  День тому +2

      I have absolutely no idea, sorry!

    • @katecapek3116
      @katecapek3116 День тому +4

      FWIW, carnauba based automotive paste wax works well on antique black iron (circa 1880 and more recent).

  • @richardmcginnis5344
    @richardmcginnis5344 День тому +1

    i really like that short fat one, i have a few swords but they're single edge mostly asian origin i would love to put one of those fat little swords on my wall

  • @mrunique4871
    @mrunique4871 День тому +1

    Oooooooh , not medieval swords again .
    Of course , I'm going to have to watch it now I'm here though lol 😄

  • @tonyoliver2750
    @tonyoliver2750 День тому +1

    Are swords in churches sometimes beaten into ploughshares and pruninghooks? Asking for my friend Isaiah.

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson День тому +1

    Awesome

  • @HobieH3
    @HobieH3 22 години тому

    Iason has quite an unusual accent. He sounds like 3 different people. Probably a very interesting person.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus День тому +2

    Hmm Idk... I can't tell if you are or aren't Matt Easton or if you'll continue to be 🤔

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 День тому +7

    Bro just rest at a bonfire and they get repaired automatically

  • @dougsinthailand7176
    @dougsinthailand7176 День тому

    Requesting captioning for us hard of hearing veterans. Thank you!

  • @Dave_0993_I
    @Dave_0993_I 14 годин тому

    13:00 a brass chape would react chemically with a ferris blade.

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa День тому +3

    What is up with all these weird spam bots popping up? I haven't seen them on other Scholagladitoria videos before. Anyways, great video on an interesting topic.

  • @Timbyte
    @Timbyte 17 годин тому

    interesting stuff

  • @robthompson1399
    @robthompson1399 13 годин тому

    I recont that cinquedea was displayed protruding from behind a sheild on a wall, without inspection, nobody would know it was rusting away 🤷‍♂️

  • @SeanCrosser
    @SeanCrosser День тому

    5:10 huh, that's an arabic script inscription on that blade.
    8:41 ah alright, inscribed when they were obtained by the arsenal

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis День тому +3

    This is funny, at this point, half of the comment are butt bots.

  • @karllambert2350
    @karllambert2350 День тому +2

    Blood rusts

  • @Arhanar-xg9rf
    @Arhanar-xg9rf День тому

    Де субтитри??? 🤔

  • @j-uw8gx
    @j-uw8gx 15 годин тому

    Some archeologist is 500 years is going to love the Soviets for drowning everything in cosmoline.

  • @windalfalatar333
    @windalfalatar333 День тому

    If a dead knight lay with his lady under a stone effigy slab in the church, didn't the corpse or corpses very quickly start smelling? It seems people in the Middle Ages weren't as anal-retentive about odours as modern man, but it seems to me that the situation could have become almost unbearable. Did people just put on a brave face because it had been the lord of the manor and he was considered worthy of respect? Then again we're talking about an age when they appear to have used human urine and excrement for lots of things and that all the disgusting jobs from history Sir Tony Robinson tried out in his documentary series often had something to do with getting into contact with excrement (such as building Anglo-Saxon huts from feces) or urine (working as a tanner).

  • @Eckister
    @Eckister 22 години тому

    complete and absolute off-topic, but does everyone at the Royal Armories follow a dress code, or is this just for the cameras? don't get me wrong - I get that they are a reknowned institution of learning, but surely a curator (for whom it is possible not to come into much contact with any other person during a day) could have some leniency, no?

  • @plasmaburndeath
    @plasmaburndeath День тому

    𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗰𝗸, 𝗻𝗼 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗦? 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗼𝗻 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮 𝗹𝗲𝘁 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻 ;-)
    Seriously though keep up the good work.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT День тому

    Deaccession these swords and I’ll care for them 😂

  • @michaelcote1942
    @michaelcote1942 День тому

    NO CAPTIONS! Thumb Down.

  • @vulpesvulpes5177
    @vulpesvulpes5177 День тому +1

    You guys must work in an incredibly second-guessed business! I’ve not heard stuttering and hemming and hawing like this in a long time. Got an opinion? State it. Clear and loud. No need to fret over every word you utter. Somebody won’t like it. That’s why we have debates. Matts not too bad. This other guy is killing me!