The Renaissance EDC! Cinquedea Short Swords with Royal Armouries Curator Iason Tzouriadis

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  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria  21 годину тому +7

    Royal Armouries swords at Museum Replicas Limited (USA): bit.ly/3V9MGeV
    Royal Armouries Shop (UK): shop.royalarmouries.org/collections/windlass-swords
    www.youtube.com/@RoyalArmouriesMuseum/store

  • @koosh138
    @koosh138 18 годин тому +61

    I have been waiting almost 10 years for either Matt, Skall, or Lindy to cover a schiavona.

    • @titanscerw
      @titanscerw 18 годин тому +4

      This.
      Matt did a little in previous years, I guess 8min video or something mentions it ...

    • @FiliiMartis
      @FiliiMartis 44 хвилини тому

      Object number: IX.1016. A beautiful and simple style. A weight of only 1050g, and a blade 91cm long and 3.7cm wide. It would appeal to numerous people for different reasons.

  • @henninghesse9910
    @henninghesse9910 19 годин тому +55

    Schiavona would be interesting to see but if the royal amouries happen to have an original Katzbalger laying around I‘d be totally up for one!

    • @Fidi-h3b
      @Fidi-h3b 17 годин тому +3

      The Royal Armouries have some of everything in this world 😂

    • @BjarneKort
      @BjarneKort 14 годин тому +1

      Excellent choices! Not many good, affordable replica ones out there.

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 19 годин тому +54

    This one’s a pain to get, you have to drop down behind the Beast Clergyman’s house

  • @Zbigniew_Nowak
    @Zbigniew_Nowak 16 годин тому +10

    This matter of nomenclature - that for ancient people "it was simply a sword" - reminds me of the matter of the names of various dishes. What do I mean? For example, when I was a child, it was obvious to me that a casserole had a certain appearance. And specific ingredients. But it was a tradition in our home, sometimes in our region. And then I went to another city, ordered a casserole and the waiter brought me something completely different. That's why some expert may add additional differentiating names, but as long as you are a person in one region and everyone around you makes these casseroles similarly... It's just a casserole for you and you can't imagine any other! :)

  • @1rapataca
    @1rapataca 19 годин тому +28

    In Italy, at the time it was used, the blade was considered a large dagger or knife, "daga maestra", or simply known as "lengua di boe" (ox tongue).

  • @ronaldsellers3717
    @ronaldsellers3717 18 годин тому +33

    I vote for a schiavona review.

    • @MrDerushingo
      @MrDerushingo 14 годин тому

      Those don't get talked about nearly enough!

  • @RyanSoCal
    @RyanSoCal 18 годин тому +28

    Yes I'd love a good replica Schiavona

  • @libertytreerevo
    @libertytreerevo 18 годин тому +16

    YES Do the Schiavona Replica!

  • @keithmeech9510
    @keithmeech9510 16 годин тому +12

    I love the idea that a cinquedea started life as a broken partisan used by hardened Italian soldiers. Much like swashbuckling and wearing a tie.

  • @bobrank3291
    @bobrank3291 17 годин тому +9

    Yes, a Schiavona Royal Armory’s replica would be great

  • @ΕρνέστοςΣμίθ
    @ΕρνέστοςΣμίθ 10 годин тому +6

    I love the schiavona. I can't imagine a sword person disliking it!

  • @screwpbrown
    @screwpbrown 17 годин тому +8

    The grip looks very similar to the roman pugio, especially with being decorated

  • @gussie88bunny
    @gussie88bunny 10 годин тому +2

    That was a great discussion. Iason was knowledgeable, polite and humble (almost too much] and interacted nicely with Matt. I'd gladly listen to his opinions on whatever you've got stowed away in the armoury ........ schiavona and katsbalger perhaps?

  • @tambarlas5248
    @tambarlas5248 18 годин тому +6

    When I lived in Harrogate I was a member of the Royal Amouries. They offered monthly Saturday "classes" where they taught topics that are not displayed in the museum and behind-the-scenes exhibits. Great place.

  • @lightprint348
    @lightprint348 17 годин тому +6

    I can imagine someone picking up a battle broken partizan as a emegancy weapon on the battle field, using it as a sword, surviving and thinking that worked well and getting a sword smith to make a handled sword from a battered partizan

  • @davidribeiro1064
    @davidribeiro1064 16 годин тому +6

    I would absolutely live to see a schiavona video.

  • @ArcticGator
    @ArcticGator 19 годин тому +11

    the overall shape of them and that hilt really reminds me of the pugio!

  • @theghosthero6173
    @theghosthero6173 18 годин тому +7

    24:00 there is actually a 16th century yemeni short sword made from an italian partisan blade, which really looks like a cinquedea (private collection, Mk Antiques)

  • @ihtfp01
    @ihtfp01 18 годин тому +15

    In my head, this is a DWARVEN weapon design...

  • @thezieg
    @thezieg 14 годин тому +3

    Always liked them, but after my trip to Tuscany some years ago, I had to have one. Now I can!!

  • @johnpillow481
    @johnpillow481 9 годин тому +1

    Yes please, more RA! A theatrical sword-master I worked with many years ago in a production of R&J had us banging away at each other with bucklers in one hand and a very similar broad blade and what I thought of then in my very young mind as a Roman short sword.

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis 19 хвилин тому

    The cinquedea fulfils the same role as the messer from my perspective. I'm happy you mentioned it at the end. And I don't mean this connection because of the grip's riveted style and lack of a dedicated pommel (so a knife), but due to the thumb on the blade that just makes sense on such a wide blade (those notches help to grip the sword in that way as well). The notches on the grip also facilitate the rapid extraction of the short sword from the scabbard (hook the small finger in as you draw it out). So this is a self-defence sword meant to be carried with you all the time (why shorter is better). In this regard, considering its use and intent, I see it as an Italian messer.

  • @Greywacke838
    @Greywacke838 2 години тому

    The man just has so much knowledge! Personality I'd love nothing better than the two of you sitting down for longer form discussions on some of what you've been talking about.

  • @valandil7454
    @valandil7454 17 годин тому +3

    Fascinating I've always been curious about the cinquedea because I'd only seen the "shorter" if you can call an 18" dagger short ones there in the Royal Armouries 🙂
    This reminded me of Dr Tobias's theory about them being the early Italian remembrance of the classical period and their obvious place as very ornate sidearms meant to push the limit of what was considered a dagger or a sword, I've always been curious whether anyone's actually managed to find more to it or not? 🙂
    And yes please I'd like to see a schiovona I love those things, being part Scottish my family introduced me to the Claymore before I'd been to Italy and seen one, the contrast makes them so sleek for something you'd use in a lot of the same ways 😊

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 19 годин тому +17

    Cinquedea: the Renaissance Five Finger Death Punch!

  • @user-tv4lz5ie5u
    @user-tv4lz5ie5u 19 годин тому +37

    Definitely not an easy Appendix Carry option

  • @thatguy3287
    @thatguy3287 19 годин тому +16

    A cinquedea longsword hybrid would be cool

    • @asahearts1
      @asahearts1 19 годин тому +12

      The Albion Principe is kind of like that. Best cutting sword.

    • @Federico19871000
      @Federico19871000 18 годин тому

      I think that existed a 1 hand sword but after that lenghness they stopped(too much heavy I guess? Or maybe too much large (not thick but large))

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 15 годин тому +2

    Totally out of my period but one of my favourite swords. I Iike to imagine Montagues and Capulets going at each other with cinquedea.

  • @ArmsandArmor
    @ArmsandArmor 5 годин тому

    just got my cinquedea! awesome sword i love it, really nice work and im glad you chose this for the royal armouries series of swords!

  • @garrenbrooks4778
    @garrenbrooks4778 18 годин тому +3

    One of my favorite short swords is the Swiss Degen. I carry one as part of my early 16th century Reislaufer kit. Given the strong swiss and German presence in northern Italy at the time, it's exciting to think of how these two swords might have met on the battlefield.
    Infact it strikes me as curious that there seems to be a strong theme on these weapons from these interconnected cultures around the late 15th/early 16th century weapons existing on a wide spectrum between dagger and sword

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 17 годин тому +1

      For about 70 years , swabian Hohenstaufen dynasty had been also Kings of Naples.

  • @MasterPoucksBestMan
    @MasterPoucksBestMan 19 годин тому +9

    That'd be fun with a buckler.

  • @barrytdrake
    @barrytdrake 9 годин тому

    Thank you, Jason and Matt!

  • @stephenlewis6922
    @stephenlewis6922 19 годин тому +3

    Yay! I absolutely love these. They just have a cool look!

  • @DemonDaoist
    @DemonDaoist 19 годин тому +3

    So very appreciate this video

  • @MrTrilbe
    @MrTrilbe 17 годин тому +1

    I can just listen to Iason Eleftherios Tzouriadis all day, such a calming voice.

  • @benjaminjohnson6936
    @benjaminjohnson6936 18 годин тому +1

    Fascinating discussion! I would love to see more of Iason on the channel. I love his videos on the Royal Armouries channel.

  • @meatballdivino8955
    @meatballdivino8955 3 години тому

    Been really getin interested in cinquedeas recently, this video is a sudden blessing, cant wait to hear about it

  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard 13 годин тому +9

    YES schiavona replica and episode please!

  • @GeorgeKarayannis
    @GeorgeKarayannis 18 годин тому +2

    hurrah for iason, a fellow Greek in teh Royal Armoury, so proud!

    • @TeutonicEmperor1198
      @TeutonicEmperor1198 17 годин тому +2

      κάνει το επάγγελμα που θα ήθελα να κάνω! τυχερός και άξιος!

  • @rogerlacaille3148
    @rogerlacaille3148 7 годин тому

    What a fascinating gentleman, I hope you do more work with him...and I'd love to see something about the Schiavona!

  • @kevinjohanson5718
    @kevinjohanson5718 11 годин тому +1

    Ever since assassin’s creed 2, the cinquedea has been a closet favorite of mine

  • @Trn-u1n
    @Trn-u1n 19 годин тому +4

    More Mat Easton videos, LETS GOO!!

  • @bombfog1
    @bombfog1 17 годин тому

    Man, Thank you for adding one of these to your line. I’ve been waiting for someone to make a good Cinquedea replica for years.

  • @mickvonbornemann3824
    @mickvonbornemann3824 18 годин тому +4

    Look like a cross between an Anglo-Saxon sword & a Gladius

  • @DouglasBriton
    @DouglasBriton 3 години тому

    Iason Tzouriadis's and Matt's discussion about how weapons become tied in to the identity of a localised group - as a Scot, this really resonates with me. Sgian dubh, dirks, claymores, Scottish targes, Scottish all-steel pistols, to the much earlier depictions of swords with downswept quillons - weapons have a long and strong link to Scottish identity. And it persists to this day. The dress swords of officers in the Royal Regiment of Scotland is the highland broadsword with a basket hilt. Many who wear a kilt will also wear a sgian dubh in their sock.

  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola 12 годин тому +2

    The whole partisan thing broke my mind.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus 9 годин тому

    You lucky sob, I'm super jelly you get to go to these wonderful museums and factories to handle all these beautiful weapons 😂 Great video as always Matt. 👍👍

  • @mistercroc9407
    @mistercroc9407 16 годин тому

    Great conversation, I really enjoyed that.

  • @stephengarrett8076
    @stephengarrett8076 19 годин тому +1

    Outstanding blade!

  • @danhodg1
    @danhodg1 16 годин тому

    What a beautiful replica, I think that would be top of my list out of the Easton x Royal armouries x Windlass line .... so unique.

  • @alexanderguesthistorical7842
    @alexanderguesthistorical7842 19 годин тому +4

    My guess would be that the cinquedea are a development and an enlargement of the Roman pugio dagger. And I thought I read somewhere that the blades of the cinquedea slowly grew wider and wider primarily to allow a larger space for decoration on the scabbard. Is that right do you think??? The only reason for the distinctive crossguard construction on the original, that I can think of is that it would allow the maker to 'fit' both sides of the quillons to the flats of both sides of the blade, following the shape of the fullers by filing. This allows the crossguard to fit almost perfectly to the blade. Rather than having to make a slot for the blade to go through (usually at the bottom of a shallow rebate) on a usual crossguard. How is the crossguard fitted to the windlass reproduction? As it looks like the tang is too wide for a slotted crossguard to go over it. Did they copy the 'sandwhich' technique of the original??? If so, I'm impressed with the design.

    • @Zbigniew_Nowak
      @Zbigniew_Nowak 16 годин тому

      But why were Roman daggers so wide? This is another puzzle! I once suspected that they could also be used for digging in the ground as a small shovel, but... I guess that wasn't the point. However, the cinquedea seems so wide that it may make it difficult for the opponent to grab the blade even when wearing a protective glove.

  • @pauloldfield6968
    @pauloldfield6968 14 годин тому

    I find these subjects so fascinating

  • @DarmokAtTinegra
    @DarmokAtTinegra 34 хвилини тому

    This is one of my favorite weapons which is simultaneously not at all a favorite weapon.
    I first saw a cinquedea in the Eyewitness Arms & Armor book and was transfixed. It seemed so squat and ugly, yet at the same time elegant and practical. It became the grunt weapon for my bad guy action figures.
    Now I love the thing. For its deceptively basic design, its uniqueness. But I still don't think I'd waltz into a fray with one.
    Beautiful job on the replica. I'm sorely tempted.

  • @tidepoolclipper8657
    @tidepoolclipper8657 15 годин тому

    The sword guard reminds me of earlier Medieval Arming Swords where the hand guard more so pointed forwards.
    The Jin Dynasty Jian had smaller guards similar in shape.

  • @carlcramer9269
    @carlcramer9269 18 годин тому

    The murmur and look you give the camera when Tzouriadis mentions the partisan coming from Italy - it was sensual. :o That takes a passion for the subject!

  • @RodneyKatana
    @RodneyKatana 18 годин тому +1

    Thanks for correcting the way.I've been mispronouncing the name of that sword

  • @Stuart-e6y
    @Stuart-e6y 16 годин тому

    My ever all time favourite sword / knife

  • @insanogeddon
    @insanogeddon 8 годин тому

    LOVE THEM. Shield and sword in a one stop easy carry package.
    Easy edge alignment for cutting, great for piercing, can block and catch points and large swung weapons.
    Treated as a non-tool when it is just a brush clearing machete with a reinforced point and a cross guard all of amazing craftsmanship
    - might replace the Panga Machete in Africa and stop all the reverse use for piercing with a floppy tip if made cheap

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 18 годин тому

    Thank you for the video ⚔️

  • @DobleWhiteAndStabley
    @DobleWhiteAndStabley 7 годин тому

    ... I have a new desire. I love swords like this.

  • @rodsayers6963
    @rodsayers6963 16 годин тому

    Just got my copy - a beautiful sword

  • @pharaohsmagician8329
    @pharaohsmagician8329 9 годин тому

    Thats awesome! Its a great self defense weapon. Though the best EDC ones are the very short ones that are easy to conceal but still do seriousc cutting rendering damage

  • @grantcox4764
    @grantcox4764 15 годин тому

    Was waiting for this one since you mentioned it upcoming...

  • @Mhorton32
    @Mhorton32 17 годин тому +1

    It strikes me that this would be a very difficult blade to try to grab with your hand if someone was swinging it at you, you could try to pinch grip it but it would be almost impossible to wrap your hand entirely around it while still being able to grip it hard enough that it doesn't get pulled through your hand.

  • @Flint_Locke
    @Flint_Locke 16 годин тому

    I just received my Royal Armouries Cinquedea. It's beautiful. I need to figure out a belt for it but I'm still enjoying playing with it.

  • @allanburt5250
    @allanburt5250 18 годин тому

    Fascinating peace of history

  • @christianbutcher716
    @christianbutcher716 11 годин тому

    I appreciate the attempt with the green screen

  • @marcacee220
    @marcacee220 17 годин тому +2

    More Italian weapons please

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 14 годин тому

      Like later era Italian Falchions with swept-hilt like hand guards, Crab Claw Broadsword, Horseman's Battle Axe, 16th century battle axe, 1820 Italian Navy Sword, 1852 Italian Navy Sword, 1880 Lion Head Italian Navy Sword, Italian Boarding Sword, 1880 Cavalry Saber, 1871 Cavalry Trooper Saber, Italian Dueling Saber, Corseca Partisan, Pole Hammer, and La Beidana.

  • @greysector1330
    @greysector1330 14 годин тому

    I had heard from a fencing master that these were a work around for ordinances banning swords in Italian walled cities at the time, as they were deemed as "daggers"

  • @thekaxmax
    @thekaxmax 18 годин тому +2

    Def do the schiavona, plz

  • @ScrubDaddy265
    @ScrubDaddy265 19 годин тому +4

    Audio is too quiet. It very much looks like an Italian encountered a messer or a katzbalger and had something made up with Italian flare.

  • @jeremiahkindel9301
    @jeremiahkindel9301 7 годин тому

    Windlass made a schiavona years back. At the time i could not afford one. I would love for them to bring it back. Along with their qama they produced.

  • @MrDerushingo
    @MrDerushingo 14 годин тому

    There aren't a lot of Cinquedea replicas outh there so, i'm glad that Windlass did one at all. I just wish they had done the end of the fullers at the point a bit better.

  • @greenman4508
    @greenman4508 19 годин тому +5

    The edc currently in England is a spork, is it not 🤭? Oh, just checked, they are banned now too.

    • @billy.g3597
      @billy.g3597 18 годин тому +3

      These days you can be arrested for being found in possession of a sharp tongue...

    • @greenman4508
      @greenman4508 18 годин тому +4

      @ well played.😂if you could be fined for a dull wit the supporters of tyranny would be broke

  • @MichaelJohnson-qd7cq
    @MichaelJohnson-qd7cq 3 години тому

    My two cents. It might be possible that the elongated triangle shape of the blade may have been an aid to cutting/slashing attacks. Kind of like a curved blade. Only as the blade tip is still in line with the rest of the weapon it is good for thrusting. The tip looks like it's somewhat reinforced so it could possibly deal with armor ok. Last but not least when one thrusts with the blade given that it gets wider as you move back from the tip it limits how deep the thrust might go making it less likely the blade is going to get stuck in your opponent. As well it would likely make a relatively nasty wound.

  • @tsmspace
    @tsmspace 11 годин тому

    after watching this video here's what I think. People had really good gloves and used them a lot for things like riding and fashion. Secondly, a thin blade can be wider and be strong from the width, but because it's so thin be easy to sharpen often to a very fine edge. but perhaps more importantly, people had really good gloves, in a situation where people already in close quarters need to produce their sword, it is actually reasonable for someone in gloves to grab the blade of another persons sword before they get to properly swing it. A very wide blade will be much harder to grab, and if you can't get a good grip on it, then a sharp blade will still cut through your gloves, so any grip someone can manage to get on the blade will still leave them vulnerable to being cut but the blade if the user pulls on it. So I kind of think the cinquedea is intended to be used by someone who will be in crowded areas who really does not want someone to be able to grab the blade,, and both a thin and sharp sword and a wide blade would counter someone trying to get a grip on it. A thicker spine, and narrow blade on the other hand, is more possible to grip to prevent slipping into a cut, and also because it is thicker there is a significant workload for regular sharpening meaning it is much more likely that the blade is ALSO duller as a result, making it even easier to grip.

  • @trystanfranziskus
    @trystanfranziskus 16 годин тому

    loved that type of sword ever since i played dragon's dogma when i was 14

  • @GUNNER67akaKelt
    @GUNNER67akaKelt 14 годин тому

    I've like the cinquedea since firstI learned of it. Quite the blade.

  • @Ytbinger
    @Ytbinger 14 годин тому

    Hands down my favorite sword of all time thanks to Assassins Creed 2. The first time I saw it I was struck with a love that has lasted to this day.

  • @danielpace626
    @danielpace626 16 годин тому

    I have made a more plain version of one of these, I carry it at Renaissance Festival every year it gets a lot of comments. It's a bit shorter 21" but it's very easy to carry, and you don't have to worry about bumping it into anyone.

  • @joestevenson5526
    @joestevenson5526 15 годин тому

    I've always love the look of a cinquedea, which in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful blades around. It is interesting that he said that precursors dated all the way back to the 13th century. Where would you say the point of balance is from the quillon?

  • @richard8808
    @richard8808 13 годин тому

    Reminds me of much earlier arming swords. I guess it was an "everything old is new again" situation.

  • @JosephAllen-d2e
    @JosephAllen-d2e 19 годин тому +1

    A Matt Easton saber would be great. I think it does look similar to a gladius. At least enough to think a gladius influence is there.

    • @rikospostmodernlife
      @rikospostmodernlife 19 годин тому

      It actually looks more like Luristan bronze swords, and the handle almost looks like one from a qama straightsword

  • @JSRLPadre
    @JSRLPadre 6 годин тому

    Regarding grip, i personally believe that this thing was held between the end user's upper and lower gums, by the blade, and required near super human neck strength to wield effectively...

  • @JustClaude13
    @JustClaude13 14 годин тому

    Wheel pommel swords were the penny-loafer of the medieval world.
    I want a matched set of cinquedea sword and dagger.
    Some use the term Anelace interchangeably with cinquedea. The cinquedea may have been an Italian variation within the type.

  • @timothyyoung691
    @timothyyoung691 31 хвилина тому +1

    schiavonna episode please

  • @cliffordjensen8725
    @cliffordjensen8725 14 годин тому

    To me, it looks like a good sidearm for a pikeman. I can see it catching and breaking pike shafts quite easily. It appears to be quite handy, and strong.

  • @GaryNac
    @GaryNac 12 годин тому

    I definitely do agree that the blade looks like the head of a partisan.

  • @thegeneral123
    @thegeneral123 15 годин тому

    *Windlass and I. I do like the look of a Cinquedea, hopefully I can get one before the UK government ban this.

  • @Headsuporheadstone
    @Headsuporheadstone 6 годин тому

    Would love a video of Celtic arms and weapons during the Migration period and dark ages! There seems to be no good information on when La Tene style Celtic weapons changed or went out of use.

  • @Lorfanatic
    @Lorfanatic 9 годин тому

    I would love to see you do a special of some kind on mercenary weapons and their histories, what is known and what is not. I dearly love schiavonas, south German longswords, Swiss sabres and others, but anything but basic information on them is so very hard to find. Francis Drake's forces used something referred to as a "fire pike" and I'm still unclear on what it could be.

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis 31 хвилина тому

    Regarding Schiavona: object number IX.1016. A beautiful and simple style for a Type 2a from the late 1600s. An overall weight of only 1050g, a blade 91cm long and 3.7cm wide. It would appeal to numerous people for different reasons. In particular, it's a cut-focused blade that I suspect it's quite thin to achieve the stated overall weight considering the listed dimensions for the blade.

  • @hristotanev3737
    @hristotanev3737 17 годин тому

    Without being a specialist and claiming to have exclusive knowledge of the evolution of weapons historically, I can say that this weapon has all the distinguishing characteristics (minus the noticeable length of the blade) of the Ancient Roman dagger - "Pugio":))

  • @misolgit69
    @misolgit69 14 годин тому

    I've wondered about these for years after seeing a drawing with no context in a book about ancient weapons

  • @Poohze01
    @Poohze01 12 годин тому

    Replica Schiavona? Yes Please!!!

  • @emergingloki
    @emergingloki 17 годин тому

    Looking at it with admittedly very little formal training, the hilt looks to be so designed as to enable the welder to change grip very easily but also maintain edge alignment, and with all that steel in the hilt and the upper part of the blade I'd guess the PoB is only a few inches in front of the cross guard, so it would be more nimble than it initially looks.

  • @masturch33z
    @masturch33z 10 годин тому

    I would love a replica Schiavona!

  • @RiverofGrassFencing
    @RiverofGrassFencing 13 годин тому

    Just as a point of contention, as I love this classification of sword, I do not believe them to be of Italian origin but rather something that was adopted and made quite the fashion statement. The broadness, design elements and the construction, lead me in my research to believe these to have originated in the Islamicate. A fun game is to crop their hilts with those of dagger hilts from Morocco for example and as someone to chose which is which. That’s not to say there isn’t parallels in blade profiles to other dagges type blades in Europe/Italian states, but that particular hilt is to me a give away.

    • @RiverofGrassFencing
      @RiverofGrassFencing 13 годин тому

      By the way, will be picking one of these up in furthering of that research. There is a surviving ottoman one, in which’s function would have been similar to dueling qama, and I believe these should handle in the same manner

  • @tidepoolclipper8657
    @tidepoolclipper8657 14 годин тому +1

    A sword used by Italian peasants was La Beidana.