What If Maul & Savage KILLED Sidious on Mandalore (Star Wars What Ifs)
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2022
- Instead of Savage meeting his end at the hands of Sidious, what would've happened had the Zabrak brothers killed the dark lord of the Sith himself? Would they lead their criminal empire or would they dedicate themselves to the Sith?
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What if qui gon didn’t die on naboo (if you haven’t done that already)
What if Ashoka was in the Siege of Mandalore with Obi-Wan and Anakin?
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
What if anakin fell in love with ahsoka
What if anakin fell in love with satine krist
It's crazy to remember that at one time Maul was just a sith assassin with a couple speaking lines, who got killed by a Padawan in his first real duel.
Reviving Maul and making him Kenobi's nemesis was one of the best things Clone Wars did, and that's a pretty high bar to meet
Actually, Darth Sideous gave Darth Maul a lot of mission and assassination missions before The Phantom Menace. And Darth Maul has successfully completed all the missions Darth Sidious gave him. Up until the Phantom Menace.
Kenobi had so many rivals
Vader maul and grievous
@@erenkaskarli9436 that was added after the movie
Yes, but those details were not known by the Republic until it was far too late.
I agree... they did maul dirty on the main movie, i still remember when i first seen that advert for the phantom menace and seen maul for the first time, i fully expected him to be the antagonist during the trilogy but hey cant have it all 🤷♂️
What if anakin was cloned and the clone became Vader while the real anakin was frozen and found by Luke years later.
Good idea
Or if Anakin was trained on Wayland, and Luke rescued him from the cloning facility.
That would be a good one.
That would be cool
You don't remember him nearly kill ventress with.his barehands? That's when I knew we were looking at vader.
I can actually imagine Maul being a much less tyrannical ruler than Sidious honestly. His brutality came out of a lust for revenge against any who he viewed had wronged him, and with both Obi Wan and especially Sidious being gone and with the Galaxy practically his I think he would’ve been able to find at least some inner peace and contentment living a life of luxury alongside his brother, that is as long as his rule was absolute.
What if Anakin joined the Separatists? I know, it sounds far-fetched, but Dooku and Anakin on the same side sounds fascinating. Padme did apparently question at some point if they were fighting on the wrong side of the war, while Anakin would have some realistic reasons to resent the Jedi Order and dislike the Republic. Perhaps she decides to jump ship in the middle of the war, for some reason, and Anakin joins her. Thus leading to a completely different timeline. He might even be able to get Ahsoka (post-exile) and some of the clones to join him as well.
Same
Good one!
Other Jedi would follow him. And soon the Clone War would become a Jedi Civil War.
This is a cool idea.
W pfp
I like how maul gets that happy ending, the galaxy is in a much better place than it originally was and even Anakin is in a “not great” but better than what he would have been as Vader position
You know it’s funny, I’m just imagining high pitch ear rape screams coming out of Sauvage during the celebration scenes while everyone’s just cheering
What if Anakin Skywalker killed Palpatine, and Dooku on the Invisible Hand while Obi-Wan Kenobi was unconscious and framed General Grievous for killing Chancellor Palpatine?
That’s a crazy theory I’ve never heard of
Even though Maul wanted to get revenge against Sidious, I wouldn’t say he was the better option. Chances are he’d used his underworld army to start seizing power.
No empire built off criminals as well as the plans of others has a long lifespan.
Yeah an empire under his rule would be cruel and brutal - perhaps slightly less so than under palpatines rule but it would still be very cold nonetheless.
He would be smart and make the people feel like "everything was well"
What if darth vader killed palpatine on Revenge of the Sith right after getting in the suit
Or another good idea I think Vader kill's palpatine before get burned ?
@@Tareus that sure is an interesting idea
He already did
@@heathgrigg2828 did he ? Then I missed it 🤣. But still its a good idea.
Maul “It’s over Sidious I have the high ground!!”
Sidious “you underestimate my unlimited power!!”
Maul “try it!”
It’s rather interesting listening to Maul and his brother pull a Yakuza, while the galaxy burns down around them.
I think that if the story did move towards the ‘chosen one’ prophecy, and if it did end on a Maul vs Anakin duel, it would be interesting to have a:
PTSD!Anakin: “You took everything from me.”
Maul: “I don’t even know who you are.”
Moment.
-What if in SWTOR, Ochos of Oblivion didn’t happen and Vitiate/Valkrion return around the movies?(In the same vain of the Darth JarJar fic you did.)
-What if The Rule of Two was abolished after the Clone Wars?
-What if the Sith Empire returned during the Galactic Civil War instead of the Clone Wars?
-What if Vader lived at the end of RotJ, not redeemed and in charge of the Imperial Remnant?
-What if Anakin saved Mace Windu and stayed in the light during Order 66?
-What if Thrawn was present during the Original Trilogy?
-What if Anakin/Vader was a double agent and played the long game like your Rebel Thrawn fic?
-What if Maul was found by the Jedi before Sidious?
-What if Vader,Thrawn and Several Imperials started an Imperial Rebellion separate from the Rebels,which really took off around the DS1 destruction?
-What if Vader never burned on Mustafar?
-What if Grevious was a Republic General but still hated the Jedi?
-What if Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 and later trained the Skywalker Twins?
-What if Lord Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 dark side ending and ignoring the dlc, basically replacing Vader?
Well i like the overall story ark, but there are a few glancing errors to me. After the landing on Mandalor and not finding any resistance its unlikely the clones would just relax, especially not 501st. Theyve been through enough warfare to know that this is highly unlikely to be a welcome surprise and more likely to be a trap, so in all likelyhood they would increase patrols, maybe even with AT-RT's and Speeder-Bikes, the AT-TE's would be positioned tacticly in places with good overview and the fleet would most likely enter a blockade formation over Mandalore.
Then with the crimson dawn fleet appearing: A warship is always active on at least a third of its crew, so given what we know, they would detect the incoming ships, raise the shields (since no one else was supposed to come here especially not a large multitude of vessels) in addition to that, we know communication blocking doesnt work terribly well in Star Wars, so the republic fleet would be able to alert the groundforces of a potential incoming attack.
Next point Crismon Dawn fleet vs. the three venators. Even if they have multiple retrofitted Mon-Cal Transport-/Cruiseliners, that is still a far cry form an actual warship like the Venator. Nevermind the huge amount of fighters Venators have. So i dont deem it impossible that theyd be able to destroy them, but they would suffer severe losses in the process.
Aftermath on the ground: The crimson dawn landing force is now presumably cut down at least by half and given what we have seen previously, their transports arent exactly the hard-to-hit type. so given the Fact that neither Rex or Vaughn strike me as particualrly gullible, there would probably be AT-TE's and clones with AA-rockets stationed on and around the major landing pads. And if an AT-TE's mass-driver is strong enough to punch holes in a munificent a couple of gonzanties and smaller transports will be free targetpractise. Now of course there is the likely option that the crimson dawn would attack from both the out- and inside, evening the playing field a bit, but as we saw the fresh drafted and moderatly trained mandalorians of Maul were not really able to outmatch the clones despite having homefield advantage and i guess for the rest of crimson dawn it'd be even worse.
Maul and Savage would most likely still be a big problem... but its the 501st + Ahsoka and it would also be probaly noticed rather quickly that an entire republic strikegroup couldnt be hailed... so chances are pretty good Anakin would just, you know... be Anakin and rush to Mandalore with his entire fleet , pretty much the instant hed be unable to reach Rex, Jesse or Ahsoka.
Story: 8/10
applied tactics: 3/10
What if Cal Kestis and his wife Merrin trained Finn to use the force. Cal would teach him the ways of the light side and teach him Lightsaber combat and Merrin would teach him the dark side of the force and how to use Magick. Thus, teaching him balance in the force. It's a sequel theory. After ROS Finn is already searching the galaxy for more force sensitive people like him, what if he comes across an old Cal and his wife Merrin living a simple life on Bogano, and they agree to train him. Might be a cool story.
uh not sure how that would work as cal might be dead by that time he was a padawan like 12 during tcw and leia died of old age whilst finn was 20 so Idk
@@trx_ced1142 Cal is about 18 yrs old in fallen order and the game takes place around 14 BBY I think, ROS takes place around 35 ABY , which would make Cal around 67 yrs old by the time ROS takes place. Imma be honest, that's still really old to be taking on an apprentice but I think it's still believable. And then at the end of the story we can have Cal maybe sacrifice himself for Finn. I think it's plausible.
Cal has a wife?
@@trx_ced1142 dude its a fan fiction. Anything goes. Canon dont matter here.
@@typicalcanyon1283 lol nah but at the end of fallen order it was implied that he and Merrin might have a “thing”, so in this fictional future I assumed that they may have gotten married :)
What if Maul killed Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon and remained Sidious’ apprentice?
Fairly solid story my one gripe is that there is no way that the Republic absent Sidious would order a full scale genocide of the Jedi Order, more likely scenario is that they'd have had the Order exiled from Republic space likely to the Jedi homeworld of Tython, whole scale genocide though not something the Republic would engage in especially on such an extreme measure. Anyway glad to see the Republic die for that act. The leadership deserved it.
I love how u tell ur stories. It's like a movie going on in my mind. Ur an amazing writer, keep doing what ur doing
With the dark sabre, he ruled over the galaxy with a combination of brute force and the art of the deal.
Maul's power + Thrawns intelligence?? That's a scary combo
I'm happy you're proud of this cause' so am I! Maul and Savage's bond is great and I love how that fueled their power, I'll always be a sucker for stuff like that. The Zabrak Brothers are my favorite Sith in all of Star Wars. Anyway the Crimson Dawn getting to be not just as powerful as the other 2, but the main title in charge was awesome. Maul was very much a better Palpatine and I love it. I hate that Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and other Jedi got killed though. And Anakin had to deal with that becoming a mess was the worst part. I felt so bad for him 😥 But again Maul and Savage ruling the galaxy was great.
I will always mention how much I love the grand inquisitor saying "hello" in the beginning.
Just so humoursly welcoming
Keep up the awesome videos!
I love your stories.
Although I would love a Grievous-centered story. He appears here and there in these stories but he never really gets much of a spotlight.
Here’s an idea, Anakin and the 501 travel to the future during the galactic civil war, say about 5 BBY.
Of course the 501 inhibitor chips wouldn’t work and it would be interesting to see Vader and Anakin see each other
This way is different than the other videos with fans done with Maul and Savage killed Sidious on Mandalore. Still, here you made them geniuses, and having Crimson Dawn as the sole savior to the citizens of the Galactic Republic is a BRILLIANT and incredible abstract thinking decision you made. For Carr being the interim chancellor instead Padme or Bail is a clever move; you made for someone like Carr, who is an economist, is excellent for the Republic but is a consequence of what would happen if Palpatine was missing during a war. This video deserves to be a sequel for how it's good it is, and this is a fantastic video, Mr. Pente Patrol, so please keep up the fantastic work, and may the force be with you!
I feel bad for anakin in this story, he lost everyone, except for his family and became a sad, hollow shell of his former self
He got what he wanted, but at what cost?
@@parkergreen2704 thanos: Everything
@@jsaplays33Better than being Vader
@@Truly_Sithari oh that more misery ten fold
@@jsaplays33 yep he lost his wife, didn’t know he had children until he was too late, had to betray his friends but turned out it wasn’t necessary, lost his limbs. Yea if maul and savage killed sidious at least anakin would have a better life than that
I have a nice idea for you, Pente Patrol.
"What If Ahsoka Tano SPOKE with the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker?"
Instead of your usual narrative style, you could make this one a bit different. For example, prepare an actual extensive dialogue - faithful to both characters, of course - which should be fully voiced. I'm asking this because:
1 - Many fans of the iconic Togruta Jedi (including yours truly) would be curious to know if she would be able to reconcile with her former Master. During the Clone Wars, Ahsoka believed that Anakin was the man to be looked up to... but after witnessing him as a ruthless cybernetic machine years later, would her faith in Skywalker be actually shaken?
2 - This would be a nice alternative if Ahsoka's own show on Disney+ fails to deliver.
This was a cool story with a lot of interesting twists and turns. You managed to keep things fairly well balanced between to 3 factions. I liked the fact that this was less of a force user driven story and more focused on tactics. I will make one criticism, it is not significant to the story itself, but using the term "Mandaloregate" OMFG you are killing me with that! I hated that reference, to be clear!
I am excited at the prospect of Anakin having a twin sister, that sounds like it has some serious potential!
What if idea! I know you already did a what if on Anakin being raised by Mother Talzin, but this is something very different than that. What if the Dathomir Witches had captured Anakin and turned him into a force beast like they did to Savage Oppress? Anakin already had one of, if not the highest Midichlorian counts in Star Wars history, so what if they further saturated him with force energy as they had done to Savage Oppress?
After reviewing the what if above, I thought that maybe I should give more insight on what I was thinking as far as plot. If I remember correctly in the story where Mother Talzin raised Anakin the focus was on keeping him balanced in the force, my thinking in asking what if the Dathomir Witches turned him into a force monster like Savage Oppress was from the angle of what if the Dathomir Witches decided to try to take power the way Maul did in this story, so they capture Anakin and turn him into a force monster like Savage Oppress, perhaps not on a galactic scale, but rather trying to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith, admittedly it is not inconceivable that they could try to take power on a galactic scale, but that would be a tough story to navigate, but becoming a 3rd force faction and trying to hoard Jedi and Sith artifacts, Holocrons, and anything else of that nature and were no longer content with staying confined to that one planet.
This is one of the best ones you've done, kudos.
Then Mual would be the true Sith Lord and Dooku would increase his droid production and take over everything Sideous had planned accept for Anakin he never cared for turning him he knew it wasn't a good idea and saw how it would backfire on Sideous eventually and it did.
I like how you had ended that. . Especially the "massages" part. . And how you called him on that with "he's asking for massage's and I don't give massage's. . "I know how to spell messages". . Genius, simply genius. . But back to the story, I thought it was well put together, and I appreciate the work you are doing.
You unlocked an ending so dark that even Sidious would look light
This is so good keep up the good work you earned my sub
I’m not going to lie I would love to see a continuation of this. About Luke and Leia
amazing video bro you deserve more subs your what if videos are amazing incredible thank you for making a what if Savage Opress and Darth Maul killed Darth Sidious video i always wondered what star wars would look like if there defeated Sidious in there fight would there take over the sith maybe i hope there Would've there are my favourite characters but anyways amazing video keep up the good work dude
Damn dude! You’re cranking these videos out man! Totally loving it and keep up the good work man! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Watching this video and rethinking the final arc of the Clone Wars, it would have made a whole lot more sense for the Republic to just blockade Mandalore and send in small commando units rather than invade in full force. Maybe they could have declared war on Maul himself rather than Mandalore, like what happened in the Napoleonic War of the Seventh Coalition.
What if Vader's mind went back in time to his younger self in Revenge of Sith after sacrificing himself for his son? But here, Anakin/Vader still hadn't forgive the Order for their arrogance that led to their downfall and work with Padme by finding evidence around Sideous to oust him out of the position of power.
Very great vod
This vid was amazing my favorite so far bro keep it up
What if Pong Krell either killed or escaped from the 501st, and went to join Dooku, as he said he would.
Okay I always wondered this and now here it is. This’ll be good, look forward to it. I’m calling it now amazing story.
Excellent Video!!
Intresting that Maul is probably one if the best shots to end the rule of two, considering that one of the few people Maul genuinely had a bond with was his brother.
Loved this fanfiic, good job😊
Really liked this one but it would make more sense if Palpatine die in an alternative manner. He would be enjoying torturing one of the zabraks with force lightning and would have been so focused on inflicting pain that the other zabrak would kill him. This is similar to how he didn’t notice Vader’s change of heart in Return of the Jedi.
Nice that you included Tyber Zaan.
Very interesting scenario and one I hardly considered, mainly because in the main continuity Maul/Savage were just so far outmatched by Palpetine. Regardless a very cool video and I'm very much looking forward to see the story unfold 👍
And my usual suggestions keep coming ;D
What if A'Sharad Hett had trained Anakin Skywalker?
What if Oppo Rancisis had trained Asajj Ventress?
What if Ahsoka Tano had been trained by Darth Sidious?
Finally found a Yarael Poof scenario: What if Yarael Poof had investigated on Kamino with Obi-Wan Kenobi? Mainly because master Poof was the only jedi Jango actually respected.
What if Mother Talzin not just opened up friendly relations with the Jedi, but moved to have all Dathomirans and Iridonians to be actively loyal members of the Republic.
I have found nothing stating that Mother Talzin knew that Palpatine was Darth Sidious. So this move is out of anger of the Sith kidnapping her son Maul.
The deal made between the Jedi and the Nightsisters would be all force sensitive Zabrak male and females would be able to train as both Jedi and the balance of the Nightsisters magic. As the females of the Jedi order, if approved by the council, could learn the Nightsisters magic. (Would love to see Jocasta Nu learning Nightsisters magic.)
This would have four major event effects from the main storyline.
1. When Ventress returns to the Sisters she has the option to train with the Jedi (maybe Obi-Wan Kenobi or Quinlan Vos.)
2. When Maul is found and healed he can find some peace with his people, Jedi Brother, and the Jedi who helped returned him home. (Also a rocky peace with Obi-Wan.)
3. Crimson Dawn never happens or is an order to end the crime syndicates (would be right down Anakin and Ahsoka's alley), so Duchess Satine doesn't die.
4. Dathomir has not only a presents of Nightsisters more able to defend themselves, but Zabrak males and Jedi to defend the planet from the CIS attacks.
Of course ifJocasta Nu learns the Nightsisters magic and order 66 happens, she can raise the dead Jedi to keep fighting for the temple.
What if Obi Wan and Shaak Ti were in love?
What if Anakin was raised by Jango Fett?
This fic is gonna be fun 🤩
Well done as always. Will there be a part 2?
I was thinking in the next episode that Anakin could go undercover as a Darth Vader like entity but still have all his power and a suit that just conceals his identity.
Funny how Palpatine's plan still works out. He just doesn't live to see it.
You sir are a true goat for the fandom. Perfect timing for work. Cant wait to listen to rey as lukes daughter. Awesome work 😁👍
Damn this video was good. Glad you didn’t keep it short. Curious how this new Jedi order would face against the Yuuzhan Vong.
Probably overkill considering how many Jedi members there are now, but still curious.
Plagueis: A non alien couldn’t become supreme chancellor
Nix, a fellow Muun: hold my beer
Honestly, why do I prefer this story to the real one? Why would this be legit so cool? Great job man, this is epic
That last video was pretty good. I can't wait to watch this one when I can. I've got a what if. What if Yoda was Sidious master in the sith order and Plagueis was the grand master and Mace was the master of the order or the other way.
ive been looking forward to this
this was an elite video
I do have a suggestion to a video.
What if Dooku was able to convince Sidious to go along with his version of the empire. Dooku didn’t want to destroy the Jedi but rather have a new Order in its place.
That wouldn´t happen, Palpatine hated the Jedi. He barely could wait for their extermination.
I loved how you used a different chancellor then Bell Organo as there were more the one person who can lead the Republic
I have strong feelings that you could have found a way to make sure ahsoka lives
Same, there's no way she wouldn't have sensed something off in the force
This is the only one of your many amazing stories that I don't like, but, I don't hate it either. I don't post often, and I'm not sure if I've said this before, you could probably write some amazing books or even movies.
I was listening to some quiet stuff so I turned my headphones up to max and I may have been jump scared by a hello
This really needs a pair of part 2 videos. One where the twins join Crimson Dawn, and one where they decide to stop the Sith...
I think your theory was amazing!!!‼️‼️
If Maul manages to kill Sidious his ego would grow to galactic proportions. He didn´t believed he could take on Darth Vader by himself.
Damn talk about a roller coaster of emotions this what if really had me on the edge of my seat. Also 19th attempt of what if Anakin and Galen Marek trained together and were rivals.
You should continue this what if story with the choices of Luke, Leah, and possibly Anakin as an older man either fighting against crimson dawn or possibly joining them in some degree of the 3 of them. Many cool possible stories and it would be cool to have a continuation of a great story to advance this possible timeline.
What if Lux Bonteri had stood by Ahsoka during her trial and helped her after she left the order.
Plagueis: Well, that was just some Galactic Karma.
Sheesh man, this was a wild ride, just seeing everyone get slaughtered like that, it envokes heartbreak
What IF Anakin and padme adopted ahsoka (as their daughter) after she left the Jedi order
OR
What if Luke and Leia are/we're NOT Force-sensitive
Yeah no Ashoka was 5 years younger than anakin
As soon as I heard the words "A young Chiss man who offered his services to Crimson Dawn", I thought "OH F*CK, I KNOW WHO DIS IS, AND THE REPUBLIC AND CIS ARE SCREWED".
Art pure art I love this
Oh dang, got to see the Senate vote for Order 66 here. Glad to see that was used, though I'd still like to see it as the title for a video.
Another what if that came to mind: What if Ahsoka and Lux Bonteri got together (or became official) during the Clone Wars? I don't know if it'd change much, but I'd like to see what would have happened if that ship had sailed in the Clone Wars.
Shame how most of my favorite characters died but this story feels like a real episode
I have the power of Grey skull
@@tylerjbeeler2361 power of Gay skull
goooood
He saw my comment and made the video, let’s go!
Are you going to do part 2 ? Seeing Anakin Rocky training montage could be cool xd
This video is already good, but acknowledging the scrapped Crystal Crisis arc is the inexplicable Cherry on top
With Maul's plan, uninterrupted and the success getting rid of sideous. Then you'll be the new Typer Zann of the Zann Consortiam / Mauldilorian Consortiam!
dont forget the what if griveous realize the truth that you promised
Any maul video is always amazing
Once again nice What If Pente, also loved going down a different path with the chancellor 😎👌
Lol, also completely forgot the last 2 times:
Day 26 of suggesting: What If Maul killed Ahsoka on Mandalore? xD
P.S: That Order 66 scene was probably the most brutal one so far. Like... Bombarding the Jedi Temple? Went dark real fast 🤣
Man that was painful especially the way Anakin went. Good but painful story
About time you made Maul and Savage dominate!
That was a dark and sad story. I was hurt with the death and the darkness of Maul and Savage.
what if domino squad survived
what if palpatine wasnt force sensitive, you could have anyone from mass amedda to a random alien
i thought this theory was pretty good, but the usage of order 66 struck me as odd. i assumed it was only saved for the scenario where the jedi had committed “treason,” rather than them becoming an issue with the elongation of the war. was fun to listen to :)
Makes me want to rewrite my own What If story involving Savage and work on it more thoroughly.
Great story! What if Luke and Liea stood against maul part 2
Why you gotta kill off Ahsoka like that...
Great vid. Poor snips and rex did not deserve to die that way.
Overall good, though I'm surprised Dooku didn't recognize Maul, him being the one that killed Qui-Gon (Dooku saw a recording of Maul killing Gui-Gon I believe) No matter, t'is a small detail.
Great story but I would of added Mother Talzin to the story and the night brothers because I think Dathomir would of been key to Mauls plan.
I want a part two
I feel like maul would be sitting on the chair wondering how he managed to kill sidious for days
Maul’s plan was well thought out. Very cunning plan. Noice!
"What if Padme became Chancellor?"
That would be interesting.
what if anakin time travelled to the rebels tv show time and created a fleet of old repubic seperatist and imperial ships for the rebel alliance. this is possible as he knew about a lot of clone wars bases and could hijack star destroyers