Great work on this video! I love the way you transitioned to the final panel at the very end of your clip. I just finished my first pass through Seven Soldiers Omnibus and look forward to reading it a second time now that things make a bit more sense.
I just finished my first readthrough of Seven Soldiers and I just want to say thanks for putting the work in on making this video. Really cleared up some things for me and confirmed some others. Looking forward to watching some more!
Really great video, I was expecting to check it quickly but it grabbed me and I ended up watching the whole thing. A couple of extra notes (Spoilers ahead tho, if you want to discover all the connective threads yourself): -The process we see I, Spyder undertake at the beggining of the series is pretty much the behind the scenes of a remake / reboot of a character. That's what the Seven Unknown Men do, and that's why the Seven Soldiers are new versions or new spins of old and cuasi-forgotten DC characters. There's the idea that the Sheeda 'harvest' a culture when it's reached its peak and cannot advance further, so it makes sense that you combat them with characters that prove that you can still find new spins. -Due to them being from the future, the Sheeda know from their history that they're gonna be defeated for good by a group of seven in some point of the past; that's why they go around time trying to indirectly cause the dissolution of teams of seven (the Knights of the Broken Table, the original Newsboy Army, the JLA in the preamble to 7S in JLA: Classified 1-3); and it's also the reason the 7S are meant by the Seven Unknown Men from the get-go to never meet; so, they meet the rule of being a group of seven, but they never register in history as one, so the Sheeda don't know about them. -Aurakles isn't a Morrison creation, he first appeared back in Justice League of America #100 as 'Oracle', a mystical hooded figure (looking the way he does in the present era during 7S) giving cryptic leads to the JLA; and since that story was a JLA / JSA teamup about solving the mystery of what happened to the original Seven Soldiers, and also features the first apparition of Neh-Buh-Loh in his previous form of Nebula Man (and also of Boy Blue's sonic horn used to summon him), that story is a direct antecesor of Seven Soldiers; and it's written by Len Wein, named by Morrison to be the main inspiration for the series. Also, Aurakles isn't the literal father of Alix, she is her descendent. -The baby universe of Qwewq, that has shown up before in Morrison's JLA and All-Star Superman, is revealed to be the larval form of Nebula Man / Neh-Buh-Loh in the aforementioned JLA Classified 1-3. -It is heavily impied that several of the Seven Unknown Men, who live in a higher plane to the story, visit the story in the shape of different characters within it, in a way similar to the concept of fiction-suit that Morrison has used before; mainly Ali-Ka-Zoom, but also the ghost-form of Vigilante; and of course Zom is the shape taken by the evil Unknown Man / Terrible Time Tailor. The fact that he's a Tailor isn't coincidental to the concept of fiction-suits, as he crafts the 'suits' of who the original Newsboy Army are going to be, dooming them to a horrible future. In the same way, at the end, the Seven Unknown Men trap the Taylor in the 'suit' of Cyrus Gold, just before he's killed and eventually becomes Solomon Grundy, dooming him to be that mindless creature forever. Also, it's said that the cauldron of rebirth fell in Slaughter Swamp in some point of the past after Shining Knight's escape from Castle Revolving, which retroactively explains the origin of Solomon Grundy (or the post-crisis version, at least) and why he's Frankenstein-like; since both him and Frankenstein himself are technically grundy-men, like the ones in Limbo Town.
THis was amazing! I was sooooo confused after reading the Mister Miracle sections. You are the man for making and sharing this. I am on to the death of the New Gods and then to Final Crisis Omnibus and so on. Thanks again! Great video and fun edits.
Death of the new Gods (and Countdown for that matter) aren't canon and don't really matter. Shoulda read Jack Kirby's Fourth World up to the end (it includes New Gods, Mr Miracle and the Hunger Dogs novel) and Morrison's JLA. Stuff like Animal-Man and Morrison's Batman saga are also good and tie in nicely.
Phenomenal video. I found this because I just finished the book and feel how I do every time I finish a Morrison book: the insatiable need to study and talk about it to no end!
Word! A spectacular series that fits nicely into Morrison's big DC story that has run since his Animal Man series! I wish DC would use more of these characters again - Frankenstein has been ok but not stellar under other writers (although Gotham City Monsters was great), but would love to see Manhattan Guardian again...
@@Demarcoa Ehh you and Joey are busy plus he is dad now so I can understand these things. We all lives plus jobs to do just glad it finally came out or else might had to cancel it Now on to 52
it is amazing the amount of times I've dug through a book almost a century old, only to realize Morrison used it to farm ideas for this and other stories
I happened upon volume 2 of 4 of the TPB at a used book store and took a flyer on it since I was familiar with Zatanna, Klarion and Guardian. After a quick flick through I had to start at the beginning. Currently I'm almost halfway through the whole story, I love the bonkers subway adventures of Guardia, and the eerie and odd Klarion adventures. The others have been really good too, but I'm surprised I'd never heard of this!
I would want see this take place on the injustice universe. It would be nice to see a story like this one altered by the Injustice universe. They are currently doing a crossover with He-Man, so if that could work, this definitely could.
There is no reason to believe that the Spear wasn't Sally Sonic. And, just an opinion, the underlying theme is actually rebooting. Everything in this story is a rebooted version of something else. The villains are endlessly mining the past. Though it is difficult to tell if Morrison is pro or anti reboot
He might be neutral towards it, exploring the pros and cons in stories like this. Things can get grimdark but we can also breathe new life into old ideas in a positive and constructive way, or something along those lines
Finally someone talks about seven soldiers. I’ve been waiting for a long time.
This book needs Love so I requested it
Great work on this video! I love the way you transitioned to the final panel at the very end of your clip. I just finished my first pass through Seven Soldiers Omnibus and look forward to reading it a second time now that things make a bit more sense.
I just finished my first readthrough of Seven Soldiers and I just want to say thanks for putting the work in on making this video. Really cleared up some things for me and confirmed some others. Looking forward to watching some more!
Really great video, I was expecting to check it quickly but it grabbed me and I ended up watching the whole thing.
A couple of extra notes (Spoilers ahead tho, if you want to discover all the connective threads yourself):
-The process we see I, Spyder undertake at the beggining of the series is pretty much the behind the scenes of a remake / reboot of a character. That's what the Seven Unknown Men do, and that's why the Seven Soldiers are new versions or new spins of old and cuasi-forgotten DC characters. There's the idea that the Sheeda 'harvest' a culture when it's reached its peak and cannot advance further, so it makes sense that you combat them with characters that prove that you can still find new spins.
-Due to them being from the future, the Sheeda know from their history that they're gonna be defeated for good by a group of seven in some point of the past; that's why they go around time trying to indirectly cause the dissolution of teams of seven (the Knights of the Broken Table, the original Newsboy Army, the JLA in the preamble to 7S in JLA: Classified 1-3); and it's also the reason the 7S are meant by the Seven Unknown Men from the get-go to never meet; so, they meet the rule of being a group of seven, but they never register in history as one, so the Sheeda don't know about them.
-Aurakles isn't a Morrison creation, he first appeared back in Justice League of America #100 as 'Oracle', a mystical hooded figure (looking the way he does in the present era during 7S) giving cryptic leads to the JLA; and since that story was a JLA / JSA teamup about solving the mystery of what happened to the original Seven Soldiers, and also features the first apparition of Neh-Buh-Loh in his previous form of Nebula Man (and also of Boy Blue's sonic horn used to summon him), that story is a direct antecesor of Seven Soldiers; and it's written by Len Wein, named by Morrison to be the main inspiration for the series. Also, Aurakles isn't the literal father of Alix, she is her descendent.
-The baby universe of Qwewq, that has shown up before in Morrison's JLA and All-Star Superman, is revealed to be the larval form of Nebula Man / Neh-Buh-Loh in the aforementioned JLA Classified 1-3.
-It is heavily impied that several of the Seven Unknown Men, who live in a higher plane to the story, visit the story in the shape of different characters within it, in a way similar to the concept of fiction-suit that Morrison has used before; mainly Ali-Ka-Zoom, but also the ghost-form of Vigilante; and of course Zom is the shape taken by the evil Unknown Man / Terrible Time Tailor. The fact that he's a Tailor isn't coincidental to the concept of fiction-suits, as he crafts the 'suits' of who the original Newsboy Army are going to be, dooming them to a horrible future. In the same way, at the end, the Seven Unknown Men trap the Taylor in the 'suit' of Cyrus Gold, just before he's killed and eventually becomes Solomon Grundy, dooming him to be that mindless creature forever. Also, it's said that the cauldron of rebirth fell in Slaughter Swamp in some point of the past after Shining Knight's escape from Castle Revolving, which retroactively explains the origin of Solomon Grundy (or the post-crisis version, at least) and why he's Frankenstein-like; since both him and Frankenstein himself are technically grundy-men, like the ones in Limbo Town.
Amazing coverage Arden! Thanks for the great work!
Thanks for watching!
The entrance you made for Frankenstein was gnarly
THis was amazing! I was sooooo confused after reading the Mister Miracle sections. You are the man for making and sharing this. I am on to the death of the New Gods and then to Final Crisis Omnibus and so on. Thanks again! Great video and fun edits.
Death of the new Gods (and Countdown for that matter) aren't canon and don't really matter. Shoulda read Jack Kirby's Fourth World up to the end (it includes New Gods, Mr Miracle and the Hunger Dogs novel) and Morrison's JLA. Stuff like Animal-Man and Morrison's Batman saga are also good and tie in nicely.
Phenomenal video. I found this because I just finished the book and feel how I do every time I finish a Morrison book: the insatiable need to study and talk about it to no end!
Word! A spectacular series that fits nicely into Morrison's big DC story that has run since his Animal Man series! I wish DC would use more of these characters again - Frankenstein has been ok but not stellar under other writers (although Gotham City Monsters was great), but would love to see Manhattan Guardian again...
He is telling us that the, "die is already cast". Great video.
I've heard fantastic things about this comic. Good on you guys for doing this. Most looking forward to the Shilo Norman section.
Nice thx man 2 years in the making but it's worth it. This book needs more love
No, THANK YOU for being so patient.
@@Demarcoa Ehh you and Joey are busy plus he is dad now so I can understand these things. We all lives plus jobs to do just glad it finally came out or else might had to cancel it
Now on to 52
Has Grant Morrison read every comic ever? Sometimes it feels like they have.
it is amazing the amount of times I've dug through a book almost a century old, only to realize Morrison used it to farm ideas for this and other stories
I happened upon volume 2 of 4 of the TPB at a used book store and took a flyer on it since I was familiar with Zatanna, Klarion and Guardian. After a quick flick through I had to start at the beginning. Currently I'm almost halfway through the whole story, I love the bonkers subway adventures of Guardia, and the eerie and odd Klarion adventures. The others have been really good too, but I'm surprised I'd never heard of this!
Great work
Damn! This video is almost as good as the comics. Very good.
Amazing video. Seven Soldiers is brilliant.
u deserve more.... views, subs, money..... I appreciate ur vids.... wish more did
Ok, finally read it and now, i'm ready to watch!
That noise you used in the beginning scared the shit out of me
Seven soldiers sounds really interesting
Holy shit, I'm gonna buy this. It has all sorts of things I find interesting. Plus the collection is on sale til the 8th of July.
good job thanks dude
thanks for watching!
fantastic thank you
thanks for watching!
12:22 BEST. INTERVIEW PROCESS. EVER.
great video on seven soldiers
Amazing
Thanks
Yay
about frankenstein haha
"and you should feel bad for not knowing that!"
This really was one of the best stories DC ever made.
I would want see this take place on the injustice universe. It would be nice to see a story like this one altered by the Injustice universe. They are currently doing a crossover with He-Man, so if that could work, this definitely could.
I feel this could potentially be translated well into a movie, idk...
Agreed. Alex Proyas could direct this.
You guys have to talk about the newest tmnt issue 86. It’s so good
22:30 Ok, need to go back and re read.
16:24 Aaaaaaaand here comes the LSD.
So is guardian who "James"supposed to be Supergirl?
I just remembered stuff the Chinatown kid was a charcter
There is no reason to believe that the Spear wasn't Sally Sonic.
And, just an opinion, the underlying theme is actually rebooting. Everything in this story is a rebooted version of something else. The villains are endlessly mining the past.
Though it is difficult to tell if Morrison is pro or anti reboot
He might be neutral towards it, exploring the pros and cons in stories like this. Things can get grimdark but we can also breathe new life into old ideas in a positive and constructive way, or something along those lines
15:15 All this for a D6.
You Are (Not) Alone?
Well I guess your next video will be final criss,good luck on that one