What a fascinating film, thanks for posting it! Amazing to catch a glimpse of the tramway emerging from the Kingsway tunnel onto the Embankment, & also the old shot tower across the river. Seeing these wonderful old trams in action makes me wonder whether we should have kept the network intact, given the pollution / CO2 concerns we have today!
I bet they took them of the streets because of WW2, such trams are unlike the subways out in the open and vulnerable to dropping bombs, mainly cuz they couldn’t dodge to the side, like a car or bus or carriage could...
Very sad old trams were gone. But Croydon have new trams on 4 routes. I rode one when I was six. Going Kingsway subway tram still in my memory never forget. Now I am 76 in June.
They did bring them back to Croydon, but they have to bring them back to Elephant & Castle (there were such plans but they were cancelled). The elephant had waited for too long.
Nice overhead shot of Woolwich Market at 7:10 with the gates to the Royal Arsenal (yes, that Arsenal) just visible at the top. I remember dodging the busses here in the 70s when I was a nipper.
I would have been 6 when they finished , but I can still remember vividly going along the embankment in a London smog ,and the copper directing the traffic as he loomed up torches or lanterns in hand . Some things stick in your mind .. likewise getting the trolley bus from dalston up to the posh cinema at Stamford hill , we had our own flea pits the savoy and classic cinemas but the posh one a odeon I think on the corner was bigger
In America after the war GM bought up the trolleys and interurban rail lines. They closed them and communities had to buy their buses if they wanted mass transit. I was born in 1954. My family lived for a year in England in 1970. We stoked a coal fire then.
I live in a Polish city called Olszyn and until 1965 we had a metre gauge tram network, there still is a short length of track with one of the old trams to remind everyone of it. 50 years later in 2015 the network was rebuilt to the standard (4' 8 1/2") gauge and reopened though a bit longer and going in an entirely different direction. Now in 2021 there's another line being built to the Pieczewo area.
3:23 I was just whisteling the song all the time, until the exact same song came up in the video. Its call „riding on top of the car“ as far as I know.
My great-aunt lived on Downham Way and, five years old, I'd watch the trams for hours. Catching a tram was hair-raising even then as it would stop in the middle of the road and you would have to brave the traffic to get to it.
Ein eindrucksvoller und auch etwas wehmütiger sehr guter Bericht. Ich wusste bis dato gar nicht das in London früher einmal Straßenbahnen verkehrten. Dazu noch als Doppelstockwagen. Woher auch, denn 1, war das vor meiner Zeit und 2. lebe ich in "Good old Germany". Deshalb: Chapeau !!!
In Deutschland haben ja auch nicht alle Städte eine Straßenbahn und noch weniger eine U-Bahn, wenn man nun zusätzlich bedenkt, dass England in den Städten überbesiedelt war, kann man verstehen, dass Doppeldecker notwendig waren. Berlin hat übrigens auch Doppeldecker Busse im öffentlichen Straßenverkehr im Einsatz. Warum es die Straßenbahn in England nicht mehr gibt und alles heute nur noch per Bus und U-Bahn läuft könnte an den Kriegen gelegen haben. Eine U-Bahn station kann als Bunker dienen, während eine Straßenbahn den Bombardierungen aus der Luft hilflos ausgeliefert wäre, weil durch die Beschienung kein ausweichen möglich gewesen wäre.
In London gibt es Transport Museum wo man alte Busse, Straßenbahnen und U-Bahnen sehen kann. Und auch die nördliche Einfahrt des Kingsway-Strassenbahntunnels steht immer noch. Und in Croydon, südlich von London, gibt es einen modernen Strassenbahnnetz aber leider nicht doppelstöckig.
@@samanli-tw3id aber ein Bus hat die Möglichkeit auszuweichen, eine Straßenbahn kann wegen der Schienen ja höchstens auf den Schienen vorwärts oder rückwärts. Es war ja auch nur ein "könnte" also eine Möglichkeit, nicht dass es zu 100% deswegen so ist.
What a sight you see you see when crashing them all and changing then to all busses and waiting.at each stop but it but have been very sad I would have love to have seen them
London trams wow this tram rocks this tram has good sound it's a shame it's got withdrawn in the 90s it's too old to come back but we can call it TFL trams London
In America after the war GM bought up the trolleys and interurban rail lines. They closed them and communities had to buy their buses if they wanted mass transit.
Hello, I was very interested in this historical film. As the operation of the trolley is a puzzle to me, do you have a map or photo of this system when it is out and under the tram to see the connection. Thank you for your information
It would be fantastic to travel back to those days so i could experience riding on a tram for myself, It was very short sighted of London transport too get rid of them as they off road and under it,
If you ask an average European nowadays whether there are trams in London, they will probably say no. I think during the late 1940s they would have been more aware with many trams enriching the city centre back then as shown in the beautiful video above.
It's funny how the loss of trams was actually lamented at the time. One of the few instances of nostalgia that was spot on. They could have modernized them and avoided the ongoing insane uk love affair with the motor car. Getting rid of trams across Britain was one of the two greatest transport mistakes. Along with Beeching. 3:29 is fascinating - the building of the Festival Hall for the imminent Festival of Britain.
In Washington DC our trams, which we called streetcars, ran until 1956 through most of the city and downtown...and until 1962, on the west side of the city. Now, we have newer trams made in the Czech Republic that have a short 2.5 mile route on the east side of town. Honestly, the streets are too narrow for them and they are a nuisance I'm sorry to say.
And now we weep as we are now in a world clamoring to fix our envirnoment impact on the planet, trams seem perfect as they are all electric with no pesky hazardous batteries to contend with.
да, там говорится, что их продали на металлолом (правда не все, самые новые на тот момент успели ещё поработать в Лидсе, но через несколько лет трамвай закрыли и там)
Yes, we’ve all seen this lovely film. It’s still brilliant.
Thank you
I was only four when the trams went but I remember the trips my father took me on vividly.
What a fascinating film, thanks for posting it! Amazing to catch a glimpse of the tramway emerging from the Kingsway tunnel onto the Embankment, & also the old shot tower across the river. Seeing these wonderful old trams in action makes me wonder whether we should have kept the network intact, given the pollution / CO2 concerns we have today!
Thank you for watching
I bet they took them of the streets because of WW2, such trams are unlike the subways out in the open and vulnerable to dropping bombs, mainly cuz they couldn’t dodge to the side, like a car or bus or carriage could...
The trams in London lasted til July 1952
I'm a tram lover. I liked the film but feel a pity for London tram which was unique and made the city much alive and still brighter
Tah nk you for watching
Very sad old trams were gone. But Croydon have new trams on 4 routes. I rode one when I was six. Going Kingsway subway tram still in my memory never forget. Now I am 76 in June.
The subway was one route my Dad missed out. We alighted at Savoy Street. I think the subway route had closed the year previously.
From Terence Wise....I was eleven years old when the last Trams ran in South London.I missed them then and I miss them still.
Wonderful work! Our Forefathers did a wonderful job.
Bring them back.
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They did bring them back to Croydon, but they have to bring them back to Elephant & Castle (there were such plans but they were cancelled). The elephant had waited for too long.
Nice overhead shot of Woolwich Market at 7:10 with the gates to the Royal Arsenal (yes, that Arsenal) just visible at the top. I remember dodging the busses here in the 70s when I was a nipper.
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I would have been 6 when they finished , but I can still remember vividly going along the embankment in a London smog ,and the copper directing the traffic as he loomed up torches or lanterns in hand . Some things stick in your mind .. likewise getting the trolley bus from dalston up to the posh cinema at Stamford hill , we had our own flea pits the savoy and classic cinemas but the posh one a odeon I think on the corner was bigger
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In America after the war GM bought up the trolleys and interurban rail lines. They closed them and communities had to buy their buses if they wanted mass transit. I was born in 1954. My family lived for a year in England in 1970. We stoked a coal fire then.
The flip over seats, when backwards became forwards and vice a versa 😆
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I live in a Polish city called Olszyn and until 1965 we had a metre gauge tram network, there still is a short length of track with one of the old trams to remind everyone of it. 50 years later in 2015 the network was rebuilt to the standard (4' 8 1/2") gauge and reopened though a bit longer and going in an entirely different direction. Now in 2021 there's another line being built to the Pieczewo area.
Thank you for watching
Gary steam
Trams are the future now and cars the past. I drive and way too many cars on the road. We need to do something about this.
3:23 I was just whisteling the song all the time, until the exact same song came up in the video. Its call „riding on top of the car“ as far as I know.
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Just amazing footage - I almost can't believe much of this was filmed in my lifetime and in my 'manor', New Cross, southeast London.
East Anglia Transport Museum in Norfolk have these old trams running on their private track, great place to visit if you love this stuff.
Great xoxo.
11 months to early for me as I wasn't born.
Do remember the trolleybuses though..
Thank you
Yes, I was old enough in the trolley days to go all over London with a Red Rover and my school friends, collecting numbers and visiting the depots.
My great-aunt lived on Downham Way and, five years old, I'd watch the trams for hours. Catching a tram was hair-raising even then as it would stop in the middle of the road and you would have to brave the traffic to get to it.
Ein eindrucksvoller und auch etwas wehmütiger sehr guter Bericht.
Ich wusste bis dato gar nicht das in London früher einmal Straßenbahnen verkehrten. Dazu noch als Doppelstockwagen.
Woher auch, denn 1, war das vor meiner Zeit
und 2. lebe ich in "Good old Germany". Deshalb: Chapeau !!!
Thank you
In Deutschland haben ja auch nicht alle Städte eine Straßenbahn und noch weniger eine U-Bahn, wenn man nun zusätzlich bedenkt, dass England in den Städten überbesiedelt war, kann man verstehen, dass Doppeldecker notwendig waren. Berlin hat übrigens auch Doppeldecker Busse im öffentlichen Straßenverkehr im Einsatz.
Warum es die Straßenbahn in England nicht mehr gibt und alles heute nur noch per Bus und U-Bahn läuft könnte an den Kriegen gelegen haben. Eine U-Bahn station kann als Bunker dienen, während eine Straßenbahn den Bombardierungen aus der Luft hilflos ausgeliefert wäre, weil durch die Beschienung kein ausweichen möglich gewesen wäre.
In London gibt es Transport Museum wo man alte Busse, Straßenbahnen und U-Bahnen sehen kann. Und auch die nördliche Einfahrt des Kingsway-Strassenbahntunnels steht immer noch. Und in Croydon, südlich von London, gibt es einen modernen Strassenbahnnetz aber leider nicht doppelstöckig.
@@alexandrau6096 Das war nicht der Grund warum Straßenbahnen ausgemustert wurden. Auch sind Busse hilflos gegen Luftangriffe aber sie fahren noch.
@@samanli-tw3id aber ein Bus hat die Möglichkeit auszuweichen, eine Straßenbahn kann wegen der Schienen ja höchstens auf den Schienen vorwärts oder rückwärts. Es war ja auch nur ein "könnte" also eine Möglichkeit, nicht dass es zu 100% deswegen so ist.
What a sight you see you see when crashing them all and changing then to all busses and waiting.at each stop but it but have been very sad I would have love to have seen them
I remember the trams well as a kid. But it would certainly be hazardous boarding & alighting London trams in today’s traffic.
Thank you.🌠
Ah, another amenity that succumbed to the dominance of cars
London trams wow this tram rocks this tram has good sound it's a shame it's got withdrawn in the 90s it's too old to come back but we can call it TFL trams London
How we could destroy our cities for cars? 😢
In America after the war GM bought up the trolleys and interurban rail lines. They closed them and communities had to buy their buses if they wanted mass transit.
Thank you
@@lovelondon4348 I lived in Bristol twice. I loved the green double deckers. You could smoke upstairs and the views were great! That was in the 1970s.
Hello, I was very interested in this historical film. As the operation of the trolley is a puzzle to me, do you have a map or photo of this system when it is out and under the tram to see the connection. Thank you for your information
no I have not map or photo.
Do you mean the ploughs?
dewi.ca/trains/conduit/ploughs.html
@@EricLDunn Thank you very much for the explanations and the diagrams. My colleagues and I appreciate this history
miclo69 - Lyon France
It would be fantastic to travel back to those days so i could experience riding on a tram for myself, It was very short sighted of London transport too get rid of them as they off road and under it,
Three years old when they disappeared, bummer.
First time seeing this - so sad 😢
If you ask an average European nowadays whether there are trams in London, they will probably say no. I think during the late 1940s they would have been more aware with many trams enriching the city centre back then as shown in the beautiful video above.
There are in Croydon but it’s well away from Central London.
It's funny how the loss of trams was actually lamented at the time. One of the few instances of nostalgia that was spot on. They could have modernized them and avoided the ongoing insane uk love affair with the motor car. Getting rid of trams across Britain was one of the two greatest transport mistakes. Along with Beeching.
3:29 is fascinating - the building of the Festival Hall for the imminent Festival of Britain.
In 50s, trams were seen obsolete and cars were symbols of progress.
As a music hall fan I love the song halfway through, but I find it quite depressing to watch, losing a very large part of our history
Her trains😊😊😊
Hong Kong is still using. BUT only you can see it in Hong Kong Island.
everything was better then. Central London is quite empty now and outside of the congestion zone its bumper to bumper.
In Washington DC our trams, which we called streetcars, ran until 1956 through most of the city and downtown...and until 1962, on the west side of the city. Now, we have newer trams made in the Czech Republic that have a short 2.5 mile route on the east side of town. Honestly, the streets are too narrow for them and they are a nuisance I'm sorry to say.
And now we weep as we are now in a world clamoring to fix our envirnoment impact on the planet, trams seem perfect as they are all electric with no pesky hazardous batteries to contend with.
Thank you
nice
Thanks
Why whenever their is something beautiful their is someone who wants to destroy it?
Jetzt wollen sie wieder alles auf elektrik umbauen 😂😂😂😂
Thank you
Bei 50er war Benzin billiger als Wasser and niemand hatte Ahnung über Globalerwärmung.
Thanjavur Maris karner.
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F for the trams because they are oh wait they are actually back in London
What a pity they were scraped. Would have done for nice dwellings to many needy people.
trams were for the poor.
New bus stand
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Thanjavur oriental tower to new busy and.
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Почему трамвай сожгли?На металлолом ?
I dont know!
да, там говорится, что их продали на металлолом (правда не все, самые новые на тот момент успели ещё поработать в Лидсе, но через несколько лет трамвай закрыли и там)