10 Biggest WTF Moments From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
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Honestly, I'm still laughing at Keevan's last words, "I hate Ferengi..."
still not as strong as the "fucking solids" line from ST:Picard. 😂
@@FiXatowhen you need to poop but don't you eat enough fiber
But moogie was not accidentally shot during the sim. He straight up said he was putting her out of her misery
5:39 - I loved this scene. Seeing Q knocked down and hearing Sisko say “I ‘m not Picard!”
this is especially important considering he had a certain amount of resentment for Picard after his participation (however unwilling) in the death of his wife at Wolf 359
Yeah siskos plot armor always made since to me since he was the emissary but picards didnt click till i watch picard season 2 and q says picard was one of his favorites making me think he had been watching over picard
Greatest scene ever in star trek!
The Tom reveal in Defiant, is the greatest joke in Star Trek history. When he pulls off his fake sideburns to reveal a GOATEE!!!
Goatee = evil version of character
@@thebricknerd8599 This is how I know that I have a twin out there and HE'S the good guy.
@@thebricknerd8599 Except for Sisko
@@edwardrhoades6957 you're right.
@@edwardrhoades6957are you sure? I mean he technically did commit war crimes lol
Dukat showing up and killing Jadsia was one of the biggest WTF for me in DS9 the character had been there since the pilot and I had no idea the actress was leaving the show so it was a major WTF!
Agreed. They have Jake staying behind to do his job but not Jadzai's BS death!?! That should be No. One!
It hurts even more when you find out the actress didn't want to leave the show; but just wanted to not be up front and center as much as she had been so the writers got sour and took away any possibility of her returning by just killing her off.
@@ImNtDead it does hurt indeed. Terry Farrell's departure from DS9 was heartbreaking for the stupidest of reasons. Both on and off screen
Add to that she didnt want to leave! They wrote her out. Talk about rude.
@@christopherlively8477 100% agreed. It was a VERY petty decision on their part. She just wanted a little less screen time, and they got their feathers ruffled, and wrote her out. It was a ridiculous move. It piss-s me off to this day when someone brings it up.
I'd say the murder of Jadzia Dax, the Pah-Wraith using Jake as their host in battle, and Bashir having been replaced on tne station for months are high up on my personal list
..and "Whispers 2x14"
I dunno, I think the reveal of Changeling Bashir is actually pretty ingenious! It forces the viewer to rethink previous episodes and see them in a new light, like all good plot twists.
@@SvanTowerMan yeahhh, the whole Bashir/Changeling arc does intrigue me. One of the things I want to do during my next rewatch binge is to see exactly where/when he was abducted, and see the episodes in-between, to see how he acted. Like, did he still perform surgeries? Did he still play darts with O'Brien? Did he still have that incredible infatuation with Jadzia??? These are questions I need answers to, LoL! I'm sure someone else - probably SEVERAL someone else's - have already done this and can answer those questions, but I want to experience it for myself.
Tl;Dr: I wanna see what happened on the station during his abduction.
I'm in my first full rewatch of DS9 since I was a kid in the 90s. I can't believe how well this show has aged!
Honestly, it would have done way better in the age of streaming than 90s syndication.
Oh man, I can't count how many times I've watched DS9, LoL! I tend to watch ALL the older ST series several times a year. DS9, VOY, and TNG, are my top 3 older ST favorites. With the newer ones, my top 3 are SNW, Picard, and LD, though not in any particular order. However, Discovery and Prodigy are also REALLY good. Though not in my top 3, they are in my top 5. I do enjoy the older series' to the newer ones though. I often wish they'd do a reboot of both DS9 and VOY, though. I bet they would both do really REALLY well!
The thought of Picard smirking to himself thinking about Commander Sisko punching out Q makes me laugh
Jake staying behind made perfect sense He was 18. That age you are idealistic and feel invincible. Also he wasn’t alone. He was there with his family. He was pretty safe.
I think Q should have been an antagonist on DS9. The Prophets were omnipotent beings, the Q were omnipotent beings. How no one thought that wouldn’t be an awesome conflict is beyond me.
Move Along home would have made an awesome movie. Were it feature length it could have been scary. The threat wouldn’t have been from the games, but have someone be scared to death.
💯 Jake staying behind made every kind of sense-storytelling, character consistency, etc.
Disagree with you on Q, though. You don't get to be an immortal being without having good relations with your fellow immortals.
Came here to make sure someone was advocating for young idealistic Jake, there was never any doubt in his mind that the federation would regain control of the station. This was probably more similar to a risky away mission in his mind than the actual high stakes situation it was, and let's not ignore the desensitized nature of his life as the son of a commander who regularly lives those experiences..
Bad call on this one trek culture.
Q couldn't be antagonist, Sisko would just hit him again and again.
"He was there with his family"
POV: you've never seen DS9 😂
Move Along Home could have been .uch better with just a couple more days of writing... It was obviously rushed.
Kira thought of Dukat's daughter as a member of her family. Little did either know how accurate that statement was. Ziyal and Kira were basically stepsisters.
Uh they were not related at all.
@@superhayes256 dukat was essentially kira's stepfather while he was with her mother ergo his daughter would've been kira's stepsister.
@@mwallacejam She was raised by her father.
@mikemaricle9941 yes but her mother was with dukat. Absentee Mom's new man is technically step-dad even if you never meet him
In defense of "Allamaraine, count to four," the Wadi *did* explicitly tell Quark that only children started at the first schap, tried to talk him out of starting there, and rolled their eyes at him when Quark insisted. It's no surprise that the "challenge" was lame.
What the showrunners were trying to convey was a message that the "Allamaraine: Aliens is that their games are so dangerous that not even children would be safe in their presence. What happened something between absurd and downright disturbing.
00:53 no, he directly stated that he shot her on purpose, which is worse.
Yeah, Leck basically said he saw that they weren't going to be able to rescue her, so he put her out of her misery.
Honestly? Respect.
Iggy Pop as a Vorta was such a magnificent addition to the episode
This is bizarrely perfect timing because I’m currently doing a rewatch of deep space nine and literally just yesterday I got to the episode Defiant. So when I saw the thumbnail I had to check my living room for any cameras in case Seán Ferrick was watching me
Bahahah! The things I'd do if Seán WAS watching me would be HILARIOUS, LoL 🤣 🤣 🤣
I think that Sisko hooking up with Jadsia in the mirror universe was pretty weird but also makes sense since that would never actually happen
It's possible that Bashir's friend Felix based Vic Fontaine on an actual person he knew, as Quark tried to get an image of Kira for a customer earlier in the series, and as Barclay did with the command crew of the Enterprise-D in TNG and later the crew of Voyager. It's quite possible the mirror version of the actual person Felix based Fontaine on is the one who got killed.
Personally I dont care if it was a human or hologram, For my money It was SOOO satisfying to see "Vic" get shot. Couldnt stand ANY of the "vic" episodes.
That was my assumption as well, so I'm glad I wasn't the only one
I always assumed that WAS Felix (at least the mirror universe version of Felix) and he modeled the character after himself.
@@ViroVV Even "It Is Only a Paper Moon". A great PTSD ep
@@vahi37 To each their own of course.
That said... It is music based, Which is a NO for me. Further, its a musical style I also loathe. So double no.
Even if it has some significance to the greater plot I also see a LOAD of problems with it. Like the fact that it is another one of the "We have to give Ezri a problem to fix with her training" episode but they forgot that her training is a counseller. So they had to overhype psychological issues, Like Garaks claustrophobia and Nog having PTSD. So its an artificial construct that they fabricated 2 episodes earlier with the Siege of AR558.
So thats definitely 3 strikes for me.
Which is a shame for Nicole because They mustered 3 big issues for her and then she was more or less relegated to giving Bashir a girlfriend.
Which with how poorly utilized Ezri was in season 7 it does beg the question should they just have let Terry go part time? They did not do much more than part time role for Ezri. So what was really lost?
Cause unless I miss my history, Jadzia's run made her one of the shorter hosts in the Dax line. Cause I think she only had the symbiote for 6-8 years by canon timelines.
For which I digress. Point is still the same, Not a fan of ANY of the Vic episodes and honestly outside of the battles at the end and the Wynn/Dukat stories coming to a close, Season 7 was perhaps the weakest season since Season 2. And having those vic "Filler" episodes is a large reason why.
Jake staying on the station during the dominion occupation made total sense when you realize that it gave a character that was essentially a cilvilian, something to do during the war. Otherwise, he would not have had anything to do.
The way they finally played out KiraXDukat concept with Meru instead makes it a LOT more WTF cause it gives a hidden subtext of creepy. All the other interactions between Nerys and Dukat play out like handsy step dad with no boundaries vibe as it relates to Nerys. Cause he is clearly obsessed with her for some reason without any sort of justification from Nerys. Having this story with Meru makes that creepiness make a LOT more sense. He sees the part of Meru that exists in Nerys and wants the younger, prettier version of Meru. Cause thats how he sees it.
Further, it also colors Dukat's interactions with Ziyal and the way he goes from being ready to murder her to doting over her and choosing her over his existing family also equally as sinister when seen through that same lens. Which with the original Z her age would have been perfect to push that angle. Yet it seems apparent that they aged her up in order to make the much needed romance with Garak
Adding that "step dad" level of evil to him not only makes his evil all the more dark, It actually aligns pretty well with the kind of evil Dukat has always represented. Hidden, Gaslighting, transactional and retaliatory.
Entirely agreed. It is absolutely in alignment with what we know to be true of real human abusers of this sort. It’s one of the things that makes DS9 one of the - if not THE - best of all the ST series. They lean into the darker themes, and don’t shy away from painful truths while still remaining Trek at the core. It gives the characters and stories so much more depth, and allows us to reflect on these darker moments of our own history. Knowing in abstract way that “comfort women” exist/ed is rather different than seeing an “actual” comfort woman, and understanding what the practice did to her and by extension the whole subjugated culture. It creates a valuable opportunity for real empathy and understanding.
I think the original trailer for "The Defiant" spoiled the Thomas Riker twist if I remember right. The second "Will" Riker gave Miles O'Brien the cold shoulder I knew it was Tom Riker and not Will.
One I would add to this list is "In the Pale Moonlight." Not any one particular moment--most of the episode. What Sisko did seemed so much out of his character and yet made perfect sense. The outrageous quality of this story is what made it so great. One of my favorite books DS-9 episodes!
That should read Brooks not books. Stupid spell checker always editorializing everything I say!
@@markvaughan653 It's 2023, and you don't realize you can edit your original post?........... Come on, man...
Can't edit comments on my app on kindle fire.
I had the very same thought. Not all Star Trek captains are morally rigid stereotypes. They're only human too, and realize that sometimes the needs of the many do outweigh the needs of the few... or the one.
That's one of the best eps in ST history.
No sudden attack and eventual death of Jadzia Dax? Thought that would be here.
The Roswell episode was brilliant 😂
#10 is my favourite Ferengi episode. Vic Fontaine's image could've been based on a real person.
I aggree with both statements. Using real life models for holo-characters as seen by the EMH, first with Dr. Zimmerman and later the awful episode where they were going to make Bashir the model for the EMH.
"Little Green Men" is one of my favorite eps. So clever. DS9 is still my favorite Trek.
For me, Vic being a human in the Mirror Universe makes a lot more sense when you consider TNG and VOY go out of their way to establish that Data and the Doctor are sentient beings and have personhood. While that personhood isn't spelled out for holodeck/suite characters, it's highly implied for Moriarty who's clearly akin to Vic in terms of intelligence and awareness.
Because there isn't holodeck tech in the MU, it makes sense that there would be a material version of Vic who is just as human as the holodeck version.
There’s a million things that make zero sense in trek. You just roll with it
Add to that the fact that both Data and the Doctor were deliberately and literally made in the image of their own human creators.
Perhaps Vic Fontaine‘s presence in the Mirror Universe is an homage to the fact that James Darren starred in the wonderful series The Time Tunnel back in the 60s, beginning the same year as TOS! It would have been cool to see him reprise his role in Enterprise, playing alongside fellow time traveler Scott Bakula!
I frickin love Little Green Men, fiction about real-world mysteries is so much fun to me ^^
#2 is my favorite. I loved the continuation of Tom's story.
I harbor some resentment over the recent revelation that Tom is alive while Sito Jaxa is dead, but that has nothing to do with his appearance in this episode, which was a Grade A twist.
@@GSBarlev There's two reasons Sito can't be brought back.
For one, it would cheapen her sacrifice. Even though Lower Decks is satire, the show deals with some serious issues like depression, PTSD, and the impact of trauma. It would also make Mariner's struggle to healing less meaningful; sometimes people have to live through long periods of dysfunction to get to a better place.
The other reason is that bringing her back would thrust her character into too prominent of a position; she is not only Mariner's idol, she's part of the genesis of the entire Lower Decks theme. For a show that only has 10 episodes a season, bringing her back would be a distraction and would crowd the already limited screen time.
I'm much more interested in the revelation of Thomas Riker. Why did he need to be escorted to earth? Is he no longer in prison? I was hoping we would see him in the finale as a co-conspirator with Nick Locarno. Hopefully Jonathan Frakes will be asked to do a revisit in season 5.
@@josephsheranda You're right, of course. But it still hurts a ton. I re-watched _TNG's_ "Lower Decks" after finishing the _LDS_ finale, and I had a big, long, ugly-cry during the whole last ten minutes of the show (and then for half an hour afterwards).
Honestly, it helped change my mind about Sito x Mariner-OF COURSE Mariner would have known and idolized her, because who wouldn't?
I think we can all agree that Sisko knocking Q on his arse was one of the highlights of DS9, after all of the Enterprise incidents, he had it coming... :P
Out of the whole series, one of the best highlights came early in the first season?
I Agree! 👏👏👏👏👏 👍
4:57 Why would vic fontain exist... Oh that's easy, because Felix Knightly based the Vic Fontaine image on a real person. Much like the EMH and later versions were based on living people, Felix based Vic on living person who he used to model the AI and character on.
So what we are seeing is the person Felix based Vic on... not actually the hologram but the human.
Doesn't explain why the name is the same unless Felix also used their name as well as their image.
@@mitchellhmartinez Yep, or its a nickname the mirror vic picked up. going by a different name till felix gave him the nick name vic.
I could easily infer that Vic Fontaine was visibly based on a real person (the program’s creator or someone else), and we saw the Mirror Universe version of that person in the episode.
The moment wasn’t explained, but I don’t think it was *unexplainable* the way the video claims.
8:12 - “Allamaraine, count to four,
Allamaraine, then three more,
Allamaraine, if you can see,
Allamaraine, you'll come with me…”
When Kia Wynn finds out that she's been bangin Dukat😂😂😂
Vic and mirror Vic has a quite logical explenation. Felix created the hologram with the appearence of a real version and named it after him
I always found the bit in "Vortex" where Odo gets knocked out by a falling rock weird. How did that work exactly? Does this imply that he replicates the entire humanoid internal structure? Otherwise he wouldn't have a solid nervous system. It's also strange that while unconscious, he didn't revert back to liquid form.
I think there are even more scenes where Odo (outside of his humanoid phase) was knocked out. Still makes me cringe.
how did Jadzia's death not make this list!?
I think abandoning DS9 at the end of season 5 should also be on the list.
Bashir being a Changeling should be on the list.
The Defiant getting destroyed should be on the list.
When they said WTF, I thought they meant moments like Worf and Garak in the Dominion penal colony seeing Julian Bashir as an inmate when they'd just left him on DS9!
Nothing beats when Leck shouted"Doesn't anything explode around here!?"
Easy explanation for the Mirror Vic, that wasn't Vic Fontaine, that was Felix. In the regular universe, Felix used his likeness to model the character of Vic Fontaine, just as Dr. Zimmerman used his likeness for the EMH.
that moment in By Inferno's Light when we see Bashir get brought back to the barracks just makes you go "...excuse me?"
IMO, Vic's appearance as flesh and blood in the mirror universe hints to prime's holo-Vic being conscious. It could be argued that permanently deactivating prime-Vic would be akin to killing him.
(-- Enter the philosophical debate of what is life... The Measure of a Man? Is Data alive? But he's just a computer, right? Right? --)
Could DS9 Have worked if they didn't have Obrien and eventually worf. Obrian was first in command red on TNG in the pilot episode and was a very developed background character who got to shine on DS9
1.) Ishka was not shot accidently in the simulation, that Ferengi did it on purpose and even says so!
2.) The "flesh" Vic Fontaine has one hint at why he´s there: in the prime universe, as O´Brien and Nog (while the latter recovers from his trauma during the war) talk about the Vic hologram O´Brien mentions that Vic is special in ways even he can´t understand, such as Vic being able to block his activation sequence if "he doesn´t want to come out" or, despite being a creation set in a vastly different timeframe, having no problem at all understanding what he is, where he is and what´s happening with his "real" friends.
So maybe (speculating here) this odd individuality comes from the fact that while Vic is a hologram in "our" universe he´s quite real in others. A bit far fetched, I know. But then again we have seen stranger stuff.
Yep. We weren't going to rescue her so I put her out of her misery
OMG! Molly was so small on If Wishes were Horses
Hana Hatae was one of the most delightful subjects to be included in the _What We Left Behind_ documentary.
I firmly believe Keevan getting killed and then them trying to pass off his corpse as alive for the exchange is a deep cut reference to the movie "Angel 2"
Vic makes sense if you look at it from the other direction - he existed in the Mirror universe, and did not in the Prime; the weird part is more about how Bashir came up with the fictional character that is clearly a real person in the Mirror universe.
How did "In the Pale Moonlight" not make it on this list?
Iggy Pop is great in that episode, gave the perfect performance of a Vorta that really just wants to get this over with, do his Dominion paperwork and go home. Love the delivery of ". . . and no patience."
What about when Gul Dukat returned as Adonai, and no-one seemed to notice? That's got to be one of the biggest wtf moments.
EMPEROR'S NEW CLOAK is best forgotten. For one thing, the Alliance already had cloaking technology and captured Sisko with it in THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS.
Tom voices a list \o/ - and manages to not be too grumpy until nearly half way through. Good going. :) Sean’s mirror universe counterpart.
A new record!
Idk if the information is out there but I would love to see a video on the sound design of trek. I gotta know how they made the tricorder open/close noise 😂
The episode when Jake worked all his life to bring back his dad.
Kira sleeping with Dukat definitely would have veered into "The Night Porter" territory.
Odo really gave a damn about those birds.
How did you miss that, in DS9's "Little Green Men," we see the return of Charles Napier, who played Adam in the TOS episode, "The Way to Eden?"
I've heard that when they asked Napier if he could do the DS9 role, he said that he didn't want to wear that weird shirt again!
Iggy Pop as a Vorta! One of my favorites.
Regarding Mirror Universe Vic Fontaine, I always assumed that Prime Universe Hologram Vic was based on an IRL person; therefor a flesh and blood Mirror Vic isn't such a stretch.
iggy pop was so hilarious in that episode.
Im relatively new to trek and just saw the allamarine episodes. Y'alls did warn me. Count to four, then three more.
I don't think they brought Q back on DS9 because there wasn't really any chemistries with Q and Sisko, they didn't really click, whereas with Picard and Janeway, we saw very early on that it was working.
Worf gettin it on with Ezri was really poor writing for many reasons. Worf would never dishonor Jadzai's memory like that. Trill aren't supposed to reassociate and Ezri must be the worst therapist it the universe to allow that to happen. It was a completely unnecessary subplot that undermined the integrity of the characters
Oh, I think you are Being entirely too nice about that plot development.
The whole storyline with Ezri in the last half of the final season was just awful! Like first season of TNG Awful! 🤮
Just .... I don't know where to go from "bottom of the barrel" to any lower to explain how bad it was!
@@TheNoiseySpectator Terry Farrell's departure from DS9 really tarnished the final season. Jadzia was to Sisko as Spock was to Kirk.
I don't think Dax was important
Q-Less is my number one, mainly because it’s great to see John DeLanice get knocked on his arse, this moment and for the uniform is easily why Sisko is a badass, not to mention in the pale moonlight while I’m remembering.
How about the surrogacy of Keiko's pregnancy by way of Kira? That spanned a good part of a season and caused some interesting character reactions.
My take on Mirror Fontaine. His first name isn’t mentioned by any residents of the mirror universe. Perhaps Vic’s creator based Vic’s form on himself (just like Lewis Zimmerman did with the mark-1 EMH model). So, the lunatic that was shot was none other than someone named “Felix Fontaine”. After all, prime universe Felix never had his last name mentioned.
You look like Bob from The Boat that Rocked, and I love it
A cloaking device . But they already had cloaking devices. They were used by klingons and cardassians in the first two mirror episodes.
Move Along Home is a very TOS style episode.
Let's not forget that the Earth general in Little Green Men was played by the legendary Charles Napier - himself no stranger to Star Trek having played the very different space-hippie Adam in the original series episode The Way To Eden.
Love Tom doing the commentary.
The reader of this has not seen enough DS9!
That is a good list.
I always assumed that Bashir’s friend Felix created Vic Fontaine in his image, so the mirror Vic Fontaine was actually Mirror Felix Fontaine.
I think the Mirror Vic Fontaine is actually the Mirror Felix, and the Prime Universe Felix used his template to create the hologram Vic Fontaine.
There were too many WTF moments in Star Trek for me. I think a good one for me was the Luwxana Troy episode where she started losing her mind.... Or the episode when Picard got zapped unconscious by that alien prob thing.
LOL, Liquidator Leck didn't shoot Ishka by accident during the training. As he put it himself. he saw that they would fail to save her so he put her out of her misery. A different kind of Ferengi :) As for Vic's living counterpart in the mirror universe? Bashir was super intelligent, but didn't it occur to you that he might have used someone's physical parameters to create the character? For all we know the creator used himself as a model, and that was the guy you saw in the mirror universe.
I would definitely include "The Muse" where that alien sucks Jake's creative energy and almost kills him. Yuck!!
Being that Sisco was a half blood Prophet, were his abilities temporarily unlocked by the other Prophets in his match with Q?
He was 100% human-his mother was _possessed_ by a prophet, she wasn't, say, a avatar of one.
The Roswell incident is when my ancestors first came to Earth
Am I the only one who realized that the Alamarane-thing was an early level (shapp)? It was supposed to be easy and silly. It's level 2. The trials of the game got progressively harder. Y'know, like a game.
Incidentally, the baseball player was named Harmon "Buck" Bokai, third baseman for the London Kings and mentioned in an ST: TNG episode "The Big Goodbye" as having the longest consecutive game hit streak breaking Joe DiMaggio's record set in 1941.
About Jake . . .
When he decided to remain on DS9, I thought it was going to be a growth arc for the character; that they were about to treat Jake as a grown-up character.
The next episode, he was reduced to, “I’m sending a present to my Daddy !”
So much for that.
9: _"As a coward,_ what Jake did was baffling to me."
Actually early in DS9, the Vic Fontaine hologram was told he was a hologram.
I understand the show runners wanting to keep Jake Sisko on DS-9, as it was the only way to include him in the show once the war started. However, I would also point out that journalists often work in war zones, and often face restraints on their writing, or their ability to transmit their stories (e.g., Gaza, and Afghanistan right now).
As to what the Bajorans might do in retaliation for harming the son of The Emissary, keep in mind that they fought a guerilla war against the Cardassians for years.
4:51 there can be only one explanation.
Although he was a hologram, Vic Fontaine was alive.
DS9 Remains the best Star Trek. By far. For so many reasons. I mean, it wasn't perfect...but damn it was good.
The Vic Fontaine programme was created by Bashir's friend, it's conceivable this friend modelled the main character off himself, therefore "Mirror Vic" is actually the mirror version of this friend
Someone should open a quark's bar in Rosewell. I'd go there if there was a ferengi behind the bar!
5:06 maybe the same reason Tuvok, a character from Voyager, was on the alternate Terrok Nor: It's Star Trek so why not....
Odo may not have reported the time travel events to Starfleet and if he did, Starfleet wouldn't divulge them to the public at large. The Temporal Prime Directive makes information like that instantly classified. It's not like they ever divulged that Zephram Cochrane needed the help of the Enterprise-D crew to complete First Contact. The only reason anyone knows about the thing with Kirk and the whales is the entire Earth saw the ship overhead causing havoc, and they had to broadcast in the open to resolve the issue.
Jadzia's death isn't on this list?!?! Are you insane?
man this guys voice is so monotone its almost hypnotic
If they'd have gotten Warwick Davis to play the leprechaun i think we all would've been ok with it.
Star Trek DS9 had a lot WTF moments.
It begs the question, why ISN'T there a Quark's in Roswell?
Meru didn't have stockholm syndrome. She willingly sacrificed herself so that her family and others could eat better and more likely survive. Wasn't there a video of her saying just that?
I would definitely add the death of Jadzia to a WTF moment. Considering when she got killed I literally said "what the f--k?"
How about Kira showing up in Oso's arms, sans her Bajoran nasal bridge ridges ? ! ?
Vic being flesh and blood doesn't need explanation. It's a parellel universe. Anything is possible, even the laws of physics being different, that's why it's multiple uinverse theory, not "just two" universe theory.
Start Trek's take on strange phenomena: It's always aliens.
How about Tuvok being in the mirror universe on DS9