I recently had to uninstall and reinstall Audition, resetting my settings. I was gutted because I thought I'd lost this video. Thanks so much, this works wonderfully.
I narrate audiobooks, and record from my home studio. This is very close to the process I've arrived at (in Pro Tools) after about 10 years of tweaking. I feel seen.
Julian, you really did a great job with this video in relaying what each part does and your reason for doing your workflow in the order you did. Too many other videos simply preach the standard "Normalize/Compress/Normalize" but I had MUCH better results with your specific method of achieving good audio. So thanks!
I can't thank you enough if for not than other reason than watching this video just led me to downloading that Reaper Noisegate plugin to help with my breath. I messed around and found the perfect setting for me. Before that, no matter what I did or used it didn't work--I either couldn't get rid of my excessiveness or I did at the expense of my audio sounding pumpy. This whole setup here I imitated worked perfectly. 113 episodes of my podcast later. Thanks!
Listening on ATH-M50 headphones, this sound is consistent with your uploads Julian. Very little or no discernible noise after the normalization. Thank you for the upload and yes, your tutorial works well for dialogue and it did not introduce any muddiness on the low frequencies.
Incredible tutorial. Can't wait to try out this technique for my next VO. Thank you so much for explaining the thought process behind each parameter for each plugin!
Thanks for sharing, this is of course a very useful knowledge that I should learn from the beginning. However, person like me prefer to use Audacity for the normal daily workflow. So, if you have similar technique but it is done in Audacity, that would be very valuable for person like me. Thanks.
I know you don't live stream but could you show an example of how to do most of this when live streaming? preferably with tools that do not add a lot of latency for monitoring
Hey, with audition you can simply analyze the amplitude statistics tool. It will tell you your program loudness in LUFS. For stereo I aim for -16 LUFS and Mono -19 LUFS. Or you can throw your audio in the match levels tool, type in a target LUFS and then apply the settings and it will bring your audio to the desired loudness.
No lie, my audio sounds crispy now! I was already doing some of these things but I didn't use the LUFS to normalize. Looking forward to the deliveries for my clients.
I'm trying to replicate the ReaGate using other gate tools. I don't understand the wet/dry attenuation. I've been googling and coming up empty. Wet/dry seems to usually mean processed vs unprocessed... but here it seems different.
Thank you for this very informative video! I am just getting into voice recording and using Audition. For some reason I can't find the Reagate plugin to install into Audition (Mac version). The only version they offer is a windows executable file. Is there a way to do the same/similar process with a native Audition filter? If not, do you know of an alternative?
Hallo Julian, wunderbares Video und sehr gutes Insider-Wissen. Eines der ganz wenigen Videos auf UA-cam, die effizient erklärt und gezeigt werden. Eine Frage habe ich noch. Wenn man auf DeNoiser und/oder DeReverbs angewiesen ist, verändert das ja wieder ungemein die Loudness. Würdest du empfehlen, diese Einstellungen vor den Kompressoren und Amplifiern einzustellen, oder lieber am Ende und dann nochmal normalisieren?
Hi again... Can anyone help me? I see that Julian is using ReaGate in Audition on a Mac. (Because he often guesses at the keys for a Win...right?) But how is this? The plugin is only offered on Win! I need it on my Mac -- how does he do it? It's urgent! Thanks!
Tell me something Mr krause...when I record my voice for voice over on adobe, what are the steps I apply to process and edit the raw recording. Do I equalize first , then compress, then normalize last? Please tell me in which order, do I apply the processing . Finally, when I add an instrumental bed to the voice and apply the mixdown in adobe, what do I do to get the final robust sound. I'm not at all pleased with my final sound, it's not robust and powerful in playback
So helpful! Thanks! Questions: Since you the low pass filters + the noise gate that means you don’t need any noise removal vat/plugins/ that sort of thing right? I’m not good at voice overs so my breathing comes through a lot. So I would just heal or introduce silence over each breath section. I tried the gate previously but it would start to affect my regular voice over. How does it get rid of the breath but not part of your voice once you start talking? Lastly I might have to get an Audition subscription or figure out how to do this in another program 😄
Hey, aside from the noise gate I don't use any denoiser because I record in quiet environments. If that's not the case for you, you can always add a denoiser into this workflow. If the noise is not that strong, I think the noise gate should suffice. A gate can also help you to tame your breaths. The most important part is that the threshold is set just above the breaths. This way the gate doesn't open when you breathe and it will gate out your breath. But don't have the threshold set to high, otherwise it will start to gate out your voice. The gate I showed in the video can also be installed in other audio workstations. If you do that you can copy my settings and only have to play around with the threshold to get some decent results.
Great instructions. I`m looking for the sound you have in this video. I want a crisp nice vocal without having the mic in my face. I have the Røde procaster with the goXlr but I cant get a nice sound without having the mic in my face. I want a setup where the mic can stay out of the monitor like you do here. What is your setup for this? A reply would be awesome :)
Do you adjust your post-processing when using the DBX 286s? Especially if you are using the 80hz "bass roll-off" on the DBX? I discovered your walk-through video with the DBX on the day I received mine. Helped with setting it up for voice over. Much appreciated!
When I use the dbx286s I usually don't add any additional post-processing. Because that's the main reason to use the 286s. The goal is to record already processed audio. If you would still need to do heavy post-processing when using the 286s, you could save the money and simply do all your processing in post.
@@JulianKrause I appreciate the response Julian! I bought the 286 for the beefier preamp to use with a dynamic mic for podcasting, as opposed to getting a cloud lifter. Seemed worth the extra $50 to get the real-time processing of the 286. With voice over work, I bypass everything after the roll off and apply fx in post.
@@voicesofjohn4127 I see, that's totally valid. When you use the dbx286s essentially just as a preamp you would need to do some post-processing. I personally would do exactly what I showed in my Audition workflow video: ua-cam.com/video/GVovXsbCjjU/v-deo.html
Hi! Is there any way to add the ReaGate effects in Mac Audition? Can I combine a few settings perhaps? ReaGate isn't a standalone VST for Mac. It only works within Reaper on a Mac. It's a standalone in Win. Help?
@@Just_Samson Hi... No, I never did. But I just figured out the basics of noise reduction w/o degradation on my own. To me the jargon is incomprehensible. Threshold? Huh? I omitted Compression in the end. I submitted my first audiobook to ACX a week or so ago and haven't heard back. We'll see how I did soon I hope!
Hi Julian, could you please suggest an alternative for the ReaGate step of your workflow? Unfortunately, Rea plugins are not available for Mac. Can I do that step with native Adobe effects?
Hey, I have been using Resolve for quite some time now and since they included loudness normalization, I always wanted to replicate my workflow in Fairlight. I might make a video about it :)
I used these exact same settings (tweaked a bit the compressor) and I still get 24.77 lufs at the final check. How do you go about getting it down to 19 like you did? Hard limiter? More compressors? And what happens if your audio peaks between -6 and -3? I see that there are many youtubers recommending normalizing to -0.1 db so you get the most volume?!?
Hey, make sure that in the last effects preset you use the amplification effect to get your audio to the final -19 LUFS. I show this at 8:58 in the video. Having your final audio peak around -6 to -3 dBFS is totally ok. You do not have to have your peaks right below 0dBFS. It is much more important that the loudness is where it is supposed should be. Btw, peak normalizing to -0.1dBFS is in my opinion a bad idea and here is why. 1: Only because you normalize the peaks, does not mean that your audio will always have the same loudness. When you process different recordings, they will end up at a different loudness. And that's not what you want. You want to have a consistent loudness from recording to recording. 2: Even though you might gain a tiny bit of loudness by normalizing your peaks to 0.1dBFS, but UA-cam and many other platforms actually turn down the audio to -19 LUFS(mono) anyways. So, you don't gain anything by pushing your peaks to -0.1dBFS. 3: If you get your peaks very close to 0dBFS it can happen that the audio clips if there is any additional processing taking place. For example, UA-cam compresses your audio after upload, and this might result in clipping when the peaks are very close to the maximum. So, it is always best to leave about 1dB of headroom.
Also Julian, when in the workflow should I add a parametric equalizer? (I want to get my voice deeper) -> When would you add it? In what part of the process?
@@MarinasFlorin I would add it in the first preset where the highpass filters are. So, it is applied before the loudness normalization and this way you will still get a consistent loudness at the end.
@@JulianKrause Top notch help! Thank you for explaining this Julian. You are extremely helpful. I'm glad I subscribed and follow you. Keep the videos coming :D
This whole video is fantastic, but feels redundant for mac users that cannot install the third party plugin that does all the work! Or I'm being dumb...which is also very possible...
Its so complicated,i didnt understand a thing,use simple words so that everyone can understand, and explain the every phrase you use,like you say us to check the decibles of beadth but you dont say how to check it ,and where will the decibles of selected breadth be displayed,
Hi! I think Julian first finds the loudest breath (the small waveform that he highlights at 8:30) and then he looks at the scale over on the right side. It's kind of hard to see, but I think the breath in this example peaks at around -42 dB. Then, he sets the threshold circa 6 dB above that breath-peak (which is around -36 dB).
@Wayne Brown I wrote this a year ago apparently, and I don't know what I was referring to at this point in time. His voice in the video is very overly compressed and has to much low-end hum, and is overall not clear. I assume that was my complaint. It's a bad sign when the speaker's voice doesn't sound good in a video in which the speaker is telling you how to process voice recordings. Hope that clears some stuff up for you.
@Wayne Brown I'm listening at home on basic speakers that I listen to everything on, and the voice processing sounds really bassy and lacking in dynamics. And I mentioned the time of my post because I don't remember what I was thinking when I posted a year ago so I'm taking a guess at what I meant by my original post back then.
@Wayne Brown Not interested enough in this debate to bother. You can go ahead and feel like you "won" the argument if that makes you feel better but I don't think his voice processing sounds good. Don't know what else to tell you.
I recently had to uninstall and reinstall Audition, resetting my settings. I was gutted because I thought I'd lost this video. Thanks so much, this works wonderfully.
I narrate audiobooks, and record from my home studio. This is very close to the process I've arrived at (in Pro Tools) after about 10 years of tweaking.
I feel seen.
Julian, you really did a great job with this video in relaying what each part does and your reason for doing your workflow in the order you did. Too many other videos simply preach the standard "Normalize/Compress/Normalize" but I had MUCH better results with your specific method of achieving good audio. So thanks!
I can't thank you enough if for not than other reason than watching this video just led me to downloading that Reaper Noisegate plugin to help with my breath. I messed around and found the perfect setting for me. Before that, no matter what I did or used it didn't work--I either couldn't get rid of my excessiveness or I did at the expense of my audio sounding pumpy. This whole setup here I imitated worked perfectly. 113 episodes of my podcast later. Thanks!
That's great to hear! Glad you could get some use out of this video.
Listening on ATH-M50 headphones, this sound is consistent with your uploads Julian. Very little or no discernible noise after the normalization. Thank you for the upload and yes, your tutorial works well for dialogue and it did not introduce any muddiness on the low frequencies.
You're a legend Julian. Thanks so much for this helpful tutorial.
Incredibly clear explanation. Many thanks, that was excellent.
Well made. i like your understandable instructions. Thanks.
Thanks for the tutorial. Will try these settings. 👍👍👍👍👍
Some awesome tips there Julian thanks a lot.
Loving your videos! Thanks from Nepal! 🇳🇵
So simple! There are so many processing options. DeEssers, Noise Reduction, DeReverb, etc. You don’t do any of them. Wow!
Another excellent video. Thank you for these details!
Thank you Julian that was a really useful tutorial!
Wow Julian!! This is so damn helpful ! I wish you all the best, you really help me with this channel
I've been waiting for this video so long! Thanks a lot
Thanks 🙏 from australia!
Incredible tutorial. Can't wait to try out this technique for my next VO. Thank you so much for explaining the thought process behind each parameter for each plugin!
Thank you for this tutorial, Julian! Gonna experiment with some of the settings to fit my recorded voice!
Very helpful video, Julian. Thank you
Thanks for sharing, this is of course a very useful knowledge that I should learn from the beginning. However, person like me prefer to use Audacity for the normal daily workflow. So, if you have similar technique but it is done in Audacity, that would be very valuable for person like me. Thanks.
Thank you
Awesome, thank you! Super useful.
Awesome technique!
I know you don't live stream but could you show an example of how to do most of this when live streaming? preferably with tools that do not add a lot of latency for monitoring
Is there anything equivalent to the match voume option in audacity?? 03:33
There is Loudness Normalisation in the latest version I think. It has similar settings, although I don't know if it's the same thing or not.
Thank you for the excellent tutorial, Julian! Any recommendations for Audition plugins for us Mac users?
Great video Julian, as usual, thanks.
Very helpful tutorial, thank you.
This is an AMAZING tutorial! Thank you so much. Can you explain about how to set the right loudness levels for different media, like youtube?
Hey, with audition you can simply analyze the amplitude statistics tool. It will tell you your program loudness in LUFS. For stereo I aim for -16 LUFS and Mono -19 LUFS. Or you can throw your audio in the match levels tool, type in a target LUFS and then apply the settings and it will bring your audio to the desired loudness.
Superb tutorial :)
No lie, my audio sounds crispy now! I was already doing some of these things but I didn't use the LUFS to normalize. Looking forward to the deliveries for my clients.
How about a de-esser? Would you put ut before or after the compressor? I guess there are different ways to do it. Thx for a great video tutorial.
I'm trying to replicate the ReaGate using other gate tools. I don't understand the wet/dry attenuation. I've been googling and coming up empty. Wet/dry seems to usually mean processed vs unprocessed... but here it seems different.
Thank you for this very informative video! I am just getting into voice recording and using Audition. For some reason I can't find the Reagate plugin to install into Audition (Mac version). The only version they offer is a windows executable file. Is there a way to do the same/similar process with a native Audition filter? If not, do you know of an alternative?
exact same issue, shame he didnt respond :(
Very organized
I wish you would explain Audacity too one day :)
4:18 is that a compressor inside Audition? What version of Audition was it? I don't think it's still in Audition. Or is it a plugin?
such a great video!
Hi Julian, could you make a video about the adobe audition setup for classical music in a theater. Greetings from Peru
Hallo Julian, wunderbares Video und sehr gutes Insider-Wissen. Eines der ganz wenigen Videos auf UA-cam, die effizient erklärt und gezeigt werden. Eine Frage habe ich noch. Wenn man auf DeNoiser und/oder DeReverbs angewiesen ist, verändert das ja wieder ungemein die Loudness. Würdest du empfehlen, diese Einstellungen vor den Kompressoren und Amplifiern einzustellen, oder lieber am Ende und dann nochmal normalisieren?
Thanks for the video! I'm not sure that I see where to download the file you mention towards the end though?
Thanks so much for sharing, Julian. It sounds very natural and good. What microphone are you using?
Hey, I'm using a Schoeps CMC641.
Julian Krause Nice. Thanks! Keep up the great work.
Very interesting! I was wondering, should I apply noise reduction before or after this process?
Noise reduction is the first thing to do
@@gideonsemabia9497 thanks!
Very good. Thx.
Hi again... Can anyone help me? I see that Julian is using ReaGate in Audition on a Mac. (Because he often guesses at the keys for a Win...right?) But how is this? The plugin is only offered on Win! I need it on my Mac -- how does he do it? It's urgent! Thanks!
Have you tried using an expander instead of a noise gate?
julien do you have a master class on udemy?
Tell me something Mr krause...when I record my voice for voice over on adobe, what are the steps I apply to process and edit the raw recording.
Do I equalize first , then compress, then normalize last?
Please tell me in which order, do I apply the processing .
Finally, when I add an instrumental bed to the voice and apply the mixdown in adobe, what do I do to get the final robust sound. I'm not at all pleased with my final sound, it's not robust and powerful in playback
So helpful! Thanks!
Questions: Since you the low pass filters + the noise gate that means you don’t need any noise removal vat/plugins/ that sort of thing right?
I’m not good at voice overs so my breathing comes through a lot. So I would just heal or introduce silence over each breath section. I tried the gate previously but it would start to affect my regular voice over. How does it get rid of the breath but not part of your voice once you start talking?
Lastly I might have to get an Audition subscription or figure out how to do this in another program 😄
Hey, aside from the noise gate I don't use any denoiser because I record in quiet environments. If that's not the case for you, you can always add a denoiser into this workflow. If the noise is not that strong, I think the noise gate should suffice.
A gate can also help you to tame your breaths. The most important part is that the threshold is set just above the breaths. This way the gate doesn't open when you breathe and it will gate out your breath. But don't have the threshold set to high, otherwise it will start to gate out your voice.
The gate I showed in the video can also be installed in other audio workstations. If you do that you can copy my settings and only have to play around with the threshold to get some decent results.
Julian Krause I’ll give this a try - thanks!
Great instructions. I`m looking for the sound you have in this video. I want a crisp nice vocal without having the mic in my face. I have the Røde procaster with the goXlr but I cant get a nice sound without having the mic in my face. I want a setup where the mic can stay out of the monitor like you do here. What is your setup for this? A reply would be awesome :)
Nice Work! Now do the same thing for Logic Pro ;D
Great video, Any idea for a free noisegate plugin for mac?
Julian, do you know of a ReaGate equivalent for Mac ? -- This Reaper plugin appears to work only on Windows. 🙁
hey Julian I got a question. I processed my vocal the same as you do, but the final loudness is always low even is -19lufs. TY
Thanks so much for this helpful tutorial . Where from is the rack effect tube modeled compressor?
Hey, it comes with Adobe Audition CS6.
@@JulianKrause Thanks. How to do it with 2020 ver ?
If you have a oneven volume recording. Is there a step to take in this workflow?
And i mean a very oneven volume recording.
Could you recommend an alternative to Reagate for Mac?
Do you adjust your post-processing when using the DBX 286s? Especially if you are using the 80hz "bass roll-off" on the DBX?
I discovered your walk-through video with the DBX on the day I received mine. Helped with setting it up for voice over. Much appreciated!
When I use the dbx286s I usually don't add any additional post-processing. Because that's the main reason to use the 286s. The goal is to record already processed audio. If you would still need to do heavy post-processing when using the 286s, you could save the money and simply do all your processing in post.
@@JulianKrause I appreciate the response Julian! I bought the 286 for the beefier preamp to use with a dynamic mic for podcasting, as opposed to getting a cloud lifter. Seemed worth the extra $50 to get the real-time processing of the 286. With voice over work, I bypass everything after the roll off and apply fx in post.
@@voicesofjohn4127 I see, that's totally valid. When you use the dbx286s essentially just as a preamp you would need to do some post-processing. I personally would do exactly what I showed in my Audition workflow video: ua-cam.com/video/GVovXsbCjjU/v-deo.html
I cannot find the reagate plugin for mac - any clues please? I'm personally new to audio editing
www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
@@flyfisherjames Only windows in that link
Is ReaGate compatible with Windows 11?
Yep!
Hi! Is there any way to add the ReaGate effects in Mac Audition? Can I combine a few settings perhaps? ReaGate isn't a standalone VST for Mac. It only works within Reaper on a Mac. It's a standalone in Win. Help?
Hi, I'm looking for a Mac version or similar as well. Did you ever find a mac plug in?
@@Just_Samson Hi... No, I never did. But I just figured out the basics of noise reduction w/o degradation on my own. To me the jargon is incomprehensible. Threshold? Huh? I omitted Compression in the end. I submitted my first audiobook to ACX a week or so ago and haven't heard back. We'll see how I did soon I hope!
Hi Julian, could you please suggest an alternative for the ReaGate step of your workflow? Unfortunately, Rea plugins are not available for Mac. Can I do that step with native Adobe effects?
I'm on a PC and I'm still too dumb to figure out how to get ReaGate. Also interested in an alternative.
Hey Julian...can you try out DaVinci Resolve...then click on the Fairlight tab and do all this in there. K thanks :)
Hey, I have been using Resolve for quite some time now and since they included loudness normalization, I always wanted to replicate my workflow in Fairlight. I might make a video about it :)
@@JulianKrause yes please
I used these exact same settings (tweaked a bit the compressor) and I still get 24.77 lufs at the final check. How do you go about getting it down to 19 like you did? Hard limiter? More compressors? And what happens if your audio peaks between -6 and -3? I see that there are many youtubers recommending normalizing to -0.1 db so you get the most volume?!?
Hey, make sure that in the last effects preset you use the amplification effect to get your audio to the final -19 LUFS. I show this at 8:58 in the video.
Having your final audio peak around -6 to -3 dBFS is totally ok. You do not have to have your peaks right below 0dBFS. It is much more important that the loudness is where it is supposed should be.
Btw, peak normalizing to -0.1dBFS is in my opinion a bad idea and here is why.
1: Only because you normalize the peaks, does not mean that your audio will always have the same loudness. When you process different recordings, they will end up at a different loudness. And that's not what you want. You want to have a consistent loudness from recording to recording.
2: Even though you might gain a tiny bit of loudness by normalizing your peaks to 0.1dBFS, but UA-cam and many other platforms actually turn down the audio to -19 LUFS(mono) anyways. So, you don't gain anything by pushing your peaks to -0.1dBFS.
3: If you get your peaks very close to 0dBFS it can happen that the audio clips if there is any additional processing taking place. For example, UA-cam compresses your audio after upload, and this might result in clipping when the peaks are very close to the maximum. So, it is always best to leave about 1dB of headroom.
Also Julian, when in the workflow should I add a parametric equalizer? (I want to get my voice deeper) -> When would you add it? In what part of the process?
@@MarinasFlorin I would add it in the first preset where the highpass filters are. So, it is applied before the loudness normalization and this way you will still get a consistent loudness at the end.
@@JulianKrause Top notch help! Thank you for explaining this Julian. You are extremely helpful. I'm glad I subscribed and follow you. Keep the videos coming :D
Julian is there a reaper reaplug alternative for MAC? it seems to only support Windows. Thanks
www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
Do you use this method to maybe compliment a dbx 286s?
I personally don't use the 286s but you can totaly do that!
This whole video is fantastic, but feels redundant for mac users that cannot install the third party plugin that does all the work! Or I'm being dumb...which is also very possible...
aww yisss
0:38
Its so complicated,i didnt understand a thing,use simple words so that everyone can understand, and explain the every phrase you use,like you say us to check the decibles of beadth but you dont say how to check it ,and where will the decibles of selected breadth be displayed,
Hi! I think Julian first finds the loudest breath (the small waveform that he highlights at 8:30) and then he looks at the scale over on the right side. It's kind of hard to see, but I think the breath in this example peaks at around -42 dB. Then, he sets the threshold circa 6 dB above that breath-peak (which is around -36 dB).
I don't like the way your voice is processed in this video, and don't think I'll be taking your advice.
@Wayne Brown I wrote this a year ago apparently, and I don't know what I was referring to at this point in time. His voice in the video is very overly compressed and has to much low-end hum, and is overall not clear. I assume that was my complaint. It's a bad sign when the speaker's voice doesn't sound good in a video in which the speaker is telling you how to process voice recordings. Hope that clears some stuff up for you.
@Wayne Brown I'm listening at home on basic speakers that I listen to everything on, and the voice processing sounds really bassy and lacking in dynamics. And I mentioned the time of my post because I don't remember what I was thinking when I posted a year ago so I'm taking a guess at what I meant by my original post back then.
@Wayne Brown Not interested enough in this debate to bother. You can go ahead and feel like you "won" the argument if that makes you feel better but I don't think his voice processing sounds good. Don't know what else to tell you.
@Wayne Brown Brother, this may seem like a good use of your time but it's not a good use of mine. Take care.