Understanding the system - the law & the English Constitution
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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I've had several comments disappear from this video - it says there are 8 and I can only see 2! Unsurprisingly a touchy subject matter...
I placed one earlier linking your video to daddy dragon and the english constitution party and it has gone
@@christinehornsby1984 I guess Graham is considered a bad boy by the YT algorithm!
@@Successfulgardendesign i guess they do not like the truth comming out and then people can then become informed
I don't know why it doesn't show some comments in the default sorting order, but sometimes if you change it to "Newest First" they'll show up. Generally I've had post not show at all if I've added a links to certain platforms particularly the one Graham streams from. Then there is the use of AI to sensor certain topics. 😁
I always refresh the page to make sure it's still there. 😉
@@thesecretpeople3842 Thank you for that tip - one extra comment has shown up!
Very well said. A true Englishwoman. We need to go back to our roots and educate our youth in our history. It is vital for a free society in the future.
Umm appears some of my comments here have been removed too, although aware it won’t have been at your hand Rachel.
Yep, it's videos like this but also Electroculture, had some very odd things happen with that video!
Hello
It always cracks me up watching these councillors who believe they can just tell the public to shut up and get out. They don't seem to understand they work for the public. They seem to think the public are there to serve them and pay for what ever the next stupid idea they come up with. Time to wake them up I'd say. Just imagine groups like yours going to every council public meeting over the whole country.
Bye. Ps love the dog . I've got one as well.
Thank you and yes we do have people doing exactly that all over the country now - there's a dropbox folder in the video description with all our speeches in!
They took it out of education for a reason, great video Rachel.👍🤠
They've done a fabulous job making sure we know nothing!
And that reason was/is to dumb down we the people.
@@Successfulgardendesign They have, but we are re-learning fast. The good news is that they rely on our Constitution as the ONLY authority they have to Assemble, so they can't argue that we don't have one without undermining their own authority to exist.
Excellent clear explanation, thank you . I've been following Peacekeepers & taken their courses. Also very good is R Vobes interview with Chris Coverdale- create change by withholding tax- the only thing that actually creates change in history- petitions and marches while they create energy & enthusiasm don't ultimately create change. Challenge the gov via taxes- If we all do that ...instant result !
WE KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT. BUT WE CAN'T EXPRESS IT AS YOU DO. NEVER THE LESS WE WILL HOLD YOU HAND IN SUPPORT. WELL DONE MANY THANKS
Probably the most interesting video I’ve seen on UA-cam
An excellent summary of last night's presentation. I came away feeling i really learned something, they really explained it well.
Thank you, Andy. Glad it was of benefit to you :o) Hopefully catch up properly soon!
Rachel I came across this fantastic book that I think would help in understanding the theory and concepts behind the principles of our Constitution. It was written by Lord John Somers, who just so happens to have been one of the co-authors of the Bill of Rights. It isn't written as a book but as short, and some not so short, numbered paragraphs, so you can dip into it as you like.
[EDIT: Wouldn't allow the link, I'll post it on my site for you, if you remember.]
I would say that if you understand every part of what is being said here then you pretty much understand our Constitution.
"¶ 33. The same reason that obliges people to submit to governors and magistrates when they govern according to the laws and constitution of the country, and act for the good of the society, does as much oblige the people to oppose them, if they design their ruin and destruction; it cannot be supposed that God who has obliged mankind to preserve their lives, and consequently to use the means that are necessary to that end, should require people to suffer themselves to be destroyed, or made slaves, to gratify the lust or barbarity of any single person, or a few who are by nature their equals, and only above them by being in an office which the people erected for their own convenience."
Thank you so much for sharing that. I've downloaded it and will have a read-through. 🙏🙏🙏
I would say I'm at the stage where I can regurgitate what I've learned but I don't feel I have a full and deep understanding yet. I need to learn exactly how all the pieces work and slot together.
@@Successfulgardendesign You're more than welcome Rachel.
It sounds like you're picking it up quicker than I did. The content of the book will confirm what you already know to be true about right and wrong, but with regards to the Constitutional principles at the root of the relationship between governing power and the governed. It demonstrates with examples from history and religious texts, the logic and reasoning behind the core principles that make our English Constitution what it is.
It's no wonder that the present lot don't want us to know about it. 😉
@@thesecretpeople3842 Peace Keepers also say thank you for the book - Lance was thrilled and asked me to pass on their thanks - superb find!
@@Successfulgardendesign As with you, he is more than welcome. 👍😁
Lord Somers wrote other pamphlets too, one on Grand Juries. I haven't read it yet but the first two paragraphs follow a similar theme to his other pamphlet in describing the true nature of our Constitution:
"THE Principal Ends of all Civil Government, and of Humane Society, were the Security of Mens Lives, Liberties and Properties, mutual Assistance, and Help, each unto other, and Provision for their common Benefit and Advantage; and where the Fundamental Laws and Constitution of any Government have been wisely adapted unto those Ends, such Countries and Kingdoms have increased in Virtue, Prowess, Wealth and Happiness, whilst others through the want of such excellent Constitutions, or neglect of preserving them, have been a Prey to the Pride, Lust and Cruelty of the most Potent, and the People have had no Assurance of Estates, Liberties or Lives, but from their Grace and Pleasure: They have been many times forced to welter in each others Blood in their Masters quarrel for Dominion, and at best they have served like Beasts of Burden, and by continual, base subserviency to their masters Vices, have lost all sense of true Religion, Virtue and Manhood.
Our Ancestors have been famous in their Generations for Wisdom, Piety, and courage, in forming and preserving a Body of Laws to secure themselves and their Posterities from Slavery and Oppression, and to maintain their Native Freedoms; to be subject only to the Laws made by their own Consent in their general Assemblies, and to be put in Execution chiefly by themselves, their Officers and Assistants, to be guarded and defended from all Violence and Force, by their own Arms, kept in their own hands, and used at their own charge under their Princes Conduct; entrusting nevertheless an ample Power to their Kings, and other Magistrates, that they may may do all the Good, and enjoy all the Happiness that the largest Soul of man can honestly wish; and carefully providing such means of correcting and punishing their Ministers and Councillors, if they transgressed the Laws, that they might not dare to abuse or oppress the People, or design against their Freedom or Welfare."
Hi, where did you obtain a copy of Lord John Somers book ? Thanks
Common Law, Constitution, Living Man vs Legal Man, are all valuable in lawful (not legal) fight, but especially valuable when fighting councils is Doctrine of Lesser Magistrate.
Hmm seems you don't like me posting about Graham Moore and the ECP, wonder why
I have no problem with you posting about Graham at all... YT on the other hand might do! I've not had any comments come through from you other than this one. I've had a few videos where comments get instantly deleted 🤷♀Graham has also been to Colchester to give us a talk on the English Constitution
I was just re-watching and want to point out something fundamental regarding your comments about knowing our Rights. I'm in no way being critical of anything that you said, only to show something that is useful to know to gain a broader perspective.
Parliament (nor the King) cannot give or bestow Rights, they can only legislate to restrict or diminish the exercising of those that we have. It's worth remembering also that legislation is not set in stone, meaning that it can be repealed or voided at any time. Therefore those Rights are always potentially there!
We being "born of nature" are born with every right that Nature endows us with, but it's only because we are also born as members of a Society that some Rights have been, as I said, restricted or diminished for the "better running of Society".
It's a fundamental common law principle that we are free to act at Will and by our own good judgement, providing that there is no law (or statute) to prevent it.
“The absolute rights of man, considered as a free agent, endowed with discernment to know good from evil, and with power of choosing those measures which appear to him to be most desirable, are usually summed up in one general appellation, and denominated the natural liberty of mankind. This natural liberty consists properly in a power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, unless by the law of nature: being a right inherent in us by birth, and one of the gifts of God to man at his creation, when he endued him with the faculty of free will. But every man, when he enters into society, gives up a part of his natural liberty, as the price of so valuable a purchase; and, in consideration of receiving the advantages of mutual commerce, obliges himself to conform to those laws, which the community has thought proper to establish.” - William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book 1, Chapter 1, Of the Absolute Rights of Individuals.
William Blackstone's words have been used to teach students of English Law, and in legal arguments, for centuries, so he is a good authoritative source for "persuasive" arguments it you need them.
When you have the time it is highly recommended that you read through this chapter of this book because it details what the common law considers "Absolute Rights", rights that should not be encroached upon by anyone, regardless of their social status. It should go some way to helping you understand why the Law is our birthright, for what it protects.
Hope that helps. 🤓
Thank you, yes that does help. I hadn't considered it in that way before, makes a lot of sense. I will hunt out the chapter you mention when I get a mo! :o)
When I first read your comment I assumed you meant some of our rights have been diminished or restricted for a better running of society is covered by cause no harm, loss or injury to another. But are you saying we've given up more than that? If so, can you give me an example to help cement it in my brain? Thanks
He literally says that whilst natural rights exist, they can be surrendered 'in consideration of receiving the advantages of mutual commerce' and that laws and statutes are there to provide laws 'that the community has thought proper to establish'.
He is not arguing that Parliament cannot abridge natural rights. He is saying that Parliament _may_ abridge natural rights in furtherance of a well-functioning society in which all may find benefit and profit. A very Whig viewpoint, but true nonetheless.
So you are absolutely correct in your statement that 'we are free to act on our own good judgement... providing there is no law to prevent it'. Spot on: but it practically means we are _not_ free to act on our own judgement, which is a very good thing indeed!
If Parliament cannot pass laws then why do you accept the Bill of Rights 1689? This was an Act passed by Parliament. Alternatively if only judges can pass laws please provide a citation for the case that the Bill of Rights came from
I do understand why this might lead to that sort of circular thinking - remember this is Rachel and her 10 minute take (as a relative novice) on what was and is both a simple and complex topic (sorry if that comes over as cryptic). Firstly, the Bill of Rights (alongside the 1st Act of Parliament, and the Coronation Oath, and later the Act of Settlement) are not Law. Peacekeepers would never suggest that they are. They are simply the authorising documents that kick of the whole thing. They effectively establish the rules of the game. They are also very restrictive. If you really need to understand what law is (by that I mean what it actually means then I would point you to my substack where the first 9 (brief) articles explore the whole topic in a digestible way - the last one is a bit of an eyeopener - even for me. The running order for the series is in the notes on the substack page itself - just do a free subscription.
To the point about law is made beautifully in the bill of rights itself under article 13 - parliament may amend, strengthen and preserve it - at no point do their authorising documents state that they create it - that's the point - we make law in the courts and parliaments purpose (aside from resolution of our grievances) is to enact it as legislation. That, done properly in this way would give legislation the force of law. I trust that makes better sense of it all? just look for lancepeatling substack - lancepeatling.substack.com/
Thank you Rachel, i think you nailed it in your summery presentation.
Thank you, Leonard! :o)
Marvellous, short sharp and simple.👍🏼
Rachel, absolutely loving your essential work. Why is the spelling so unusual? Is that normal 17th century spelling ?
I don't know how normal it is but presumably, it will be the best of that era!
@@Successfulgardendesign thanks for taking the time to respond.
Interesting stuff.
Thanks. 👍🏽
Like you I’m also learning, though urge you not to rely on AI Rachel as it’s often inaccurate, especially on the Constitution. No surprise it states that Parliament is sovereign when it absolutely is not.
Yes, absolutely, never rely on Chat GPT - it's helpful for summarising, but you have to read the original to check it!
Agree when this is possible. However, it’s not always possible with case law and case precedents, i.e. common law . @@Successfulgardendesign
@@boroughgal4146 Thanks for the heads up, useful to know!
❤keep up the excellent work Rachel. @@Successfulgardendesign
Thank you for your brilliant video, and for everything you are doing to fight against the growing totalitarianism. I have just tried to find the Bill of Rights 1688 on the govt's legislation.gov site, but it keeps coming back with no results found! And I tried printing a copy from the resources folder you very kindly provided, but it will only print in ultra tiny print (unreadable), and I don't understand the line at the very end; there are no known outstanding effects of the Act??
Hi Melanie, the link for it is www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/WillandMarSess2/1/2/introduction
The outstanding effects on the Act means there are no changes coming in the pipeline to it. If you find acts with a red notice bar at the top that means that changes have been made but aren't on the website yet.
@@Successfulgardendesign Thank you! That's very kind of you to go to that trouble. And thank you for explaining about the 'no outstanding effects', much appreciated. God bless you. 🙏💖
@@Successfulgardendesign Just double checking; it has the 'read more' at the bottom of your reply, but tapping on it reveals nothing, had you written anything more? Because if you have, it's not showing up. Thank you. 🙏💖
Sounds like it's just YT being funky - you've not missed anything extra!@@melaniebaynes2730