I was blown away by the photos as soon as you used the flash umbrella thingy (note the technical jargon), they were simply stunning and having owned m43 before makes me want to go back!! Simply stunning Lauren was just sublime!! Good job!!
@@TheCameraProject i understand but pausing hte video isnt the same feeling as watching all t once. If you want it fluent its bette if its a few seonds more.
Love what Olympus has done here. Short MFD on all of them, focus on smooth bokeh, great build and sharpness wide open- nothing to complain about. Shoot mostly Sony but still love my M43 gear!
Thankyou for the great comparison of these two lenses, all together with the beautiful composition on this beautiful streets and beautiful models. Im keen to 17mm PRO to pair with em1x body. However after seeing this video, i cant decide. both are great lens for m43 system. the 45 looks incredibly sharp
You won't go wrong with either, but it all depends on your usage. The 17 will be more flexible at the standard 35mm focal length. The 45 is more of your classic portrait lens. I'd say of the 2 the 45 stands out more to me over its smaller cheaper counterparts.
@@TheCameraProject i would like to ask your opinion, being that youve played with both lenses and many other. Currently im paring the body with 12-40 PRO as im more onto videos, for youtube and events. It is a very versatile lens with speedy focus and sharp too. If im were to add either one of theses great lenses you've reviewed for stills and beauty shots, or if you are in my position. Which one is your pick. Ive seen your vidoes repeatedly today and still cannot come with a decision . Your thoughts and input will greatly be appreciated . And oareon my bad english too.
Wow those lenses are really sharp even wide open, problem is they show up every imperfection and blemish. You my need more time on photoshop than you would with the cheaper premiun 1.8 lenses.
I sold all my olympus lenses and prefer the colours and micro contrast of Panasonic lenses. The Nocticron 42.5mm f1.2 is amazing and gives the leica pop. Also have Panasonic 12mm f1.4 and its sharp wide open. Work very nice with olympus e-m1 mark ii. I found olympus lenses gave flat colours in general. But personal taste.
Photo Video Guru I know that might be a dumb question, but can you use panasonic lenses on the omds or do you need some kind of adapter or something like this? (Answer would be super nice)
Lena K. All olympus and panasonic lens will work on each others bodies. I was using olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii with Panasonic lenses before upgrading to e-m1 mark ii
This was great, thanks so much! What flash would you use together with the OM-D 1/5 II? Just getting into flash photography and you really inspired me - thank you!! :)
I've used goth, but not at the same time. I really like both lenses and don't think you'd go wrong with either. If I had to pick one I'd probably pick the Olympus, but only because I have an Olympus camera.
Kayser Wong well there is a camera at parts. The Sony FDR X3000. There is also the transmitter for the flash system. That is a Flashpoint r2 transmitter
I think the video footage looked most times better then the pfotos you have taken from the model. The colours and the light look more natural in the video than in the photos....
buying the E-M10iii next year!the video settings on my D750 is subpar compared to what these cameras can do!thein body stabilization is pretty nice to look at here on youtube but the prices for the pro lenses on these mft are too high I say!shooting pictures with the D750 and film with the E-M10iii!
Yup. Micro Four Thirds honestly doesn't make a lot of sense to me anymore, with how expensive both the lenses and bodies are getting. Like the f1.2 lenses on a Micro Four Thirds really are F2.4 lenses on a full frame equivalent, meaning it's actually cheaper to go for like a Sony full frame and an f1.8 lens.
Its a fair point, the problem comes if in addition to your solid primes, you want some compact and low-weight zooms, and don't have the budget to be in 2 systems. I think these lenses help the people who want that shallow depth of field for a certain part of their work, but then want to be able to take the same camera on vacation with something like the 14-150 and not carry a ton of weight, gear, and price of a full frame system.
I still think those lenses are *way* too overpriced, and it would actually be more cost effective to own two systems with two separate range of budget lenses. And Sony actually does have a few low-weight zooms for their full frame system and to be honest a Sony full frame isn't heavier or bulkier than an Olympus mirrorless, and considering that there's now a bunch of really good cost effective fast prime lenses for the Sony system you can see how MFT is starting to make less and less sense. Like for the price of two of those Olympus lenses I could actually buy a full frame Sony a7ii ( a really solid camera) and a really good prime lens. And let's not even begin with adapting lenses and how easy it is to focus with a bit of practice and focus peaking.
I don't mean to be mean but why do most modern models look as if they just stepped in something nasty. I do not want happy clappy images but a little less pain might make a nice difference and make the images /models more memorable.
...Both lenses are to big and expensive for what they are. The problem for me as former mFT user is, that the mFT sensors are not capable of enough image quality to justify lenses in that price range. Fuji sells an absolutly pro grade build quality 56mm F1.2 for around 1000€, what is way under that Olympus 45mm F1.2 and there you get a sensor which matches the lenses. So if this would be 800-900€ lenses ok, but they'are definitly not worth a 1300€...
Benjamin Jehne....yeah, had mft, now on nikon full frame. no bias on brand, but larger sensors are always better. I did love the compact size of the micro 4/3 system, and they have tons of technology built into the cameras(not just hype)...but once i saw what the larger sensor does with the overall iq and depth in the photo, it was all over.
Yup. MFT doesn't make any sense anymore. Olympus and Panasonic are pricing their bodies and lenses like full frame cameras which make no sense. The whole point of going the MFT way was to pay way less to get some pro grade features but in a smaller body with a smaller sensor. Olympus body and lenses are grossly overpriced.
A key theme about these lenses is having options. It doesn't make much sense to buy MFT just to get a bunch of f/1.2 primes to minimise DoF when the DoF-equivalent f/2.8 (well, f/2.4 to be exact) lenses on FF are much smaller. Indeed, my old Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95 was a comically front-heavy MFT prime compared to the equivalent 35mm Summicron on the M and my old A7. So if your goal was to "maximise bokeh", then go straight to FF. But it's important to recognise that *in addition* to the assortment of low-cost and small MFT lenses (an area in which MFT really shines), you have the *option* of going f/1.2 should you want to. Regarding the Fuji--I agree with 56/1.2 is a brilliant piece of kit, but so is the 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron. I actually prefer the build of the Noct and wish I hadn't sold it. The images were exquisite and my other systems include Canon FF, Leica M and previously Fuji X. I haven't tried the new 45/1.2 but would love to. Finally, there's video. Until the A7SIII comes out, Sony can't touch the GH5 with its 4K/30 8 bit 4:2:0. The f/1.2 primes really shine on the GH5 for video.
Yeah, Col, I have to agree with you in terms of there being options. The sony system is fantastic, but if you throw some 2.8 primes on that thing it becomes insanely expensive and heavy too. If you are cool just shooting with a few primes, then it might make sense, but the zooms are where things really get insane. It's all about making the kit that works for you. For instance, Maybe keep the 17 1.8 as a walk around lens, and then for your serious portraiture shell out for the 45 1.2. It just depends on what you need.
Apples to Oranges, the Fuji 56mm f1.2 in neither weather sealed, doens't focus as close as and is not as sharp wide open as m.Zuiko 45mm f1.2, which is one of the sharpest lenses Olympus lenses ever produced. Also, I read somewhere that Fuji is suuuper slow on focusing, while Zuiko is blazingly fast even on my little Pen E-PL7 camera. Farther It has programmable L-Fn button where you can bind any camera function for quick access and a cool manual focus clutch. So good luck and have fun shooting your "absolutly pro grade build quality" yet not weather sealed lens with snail speed focusing motor on magic unicorn dust Fuji sensor, meanwhile I will enjoy my Zuiko.
Point taken, and I don't necessarily disagree. However, if you bought micro four thirds, for its portability for travel or it's video features, than having access to fast primes to get you shallow depth of field might be something you are interested in for portraits or shallow depth of field, rather than investing in 2 different systems.
@@TheCameraProject The images look great & can certainly be used professionally and has their own aesthetics some may prefer. I already have two micro four thirds cameras as they used to have the best value for video work a few years back. But now the 35mm mirrorless options include good prices, small lens and if Olympus base their offers on those hooked in the system they need to reconsider. It's easier to switch now. It was so good for us to have so many options to choose from, hope they can all be around for a long time.
@@exinexi having owned f/1.8 “full frame” lenses for several systems, these Olympus Pro lenses blow them away in image quality, build, and features. There’s really no comparison.
Hey Jayme, the model numbers are in the scripting above. Those are the adorama versions. At Unique photo or B&H they would be called Godox, but both are the same thing. It's pretty fantastic and way better than Olympus's own solution in that it is't using one flash to trigger another, it's using IR commanding. So the commander on top of the camera controls all of the settings for multiple groups and multiple flashes if you need. You can use with speed lights or large studio lights as well. They are way cheaper than Olympus branded flashes as well. The flash I was using runs around $120, and the trigger about $50. There is also an $80 model flash for smaller and lighter weight uses which I also own. Great to put in a bag just in case you need one. I hope to do a video on the system one day!
Great video, and yes I’ve heard of using Godoy system ...I currently use a cactus v6 and the compatible rf60 flash, but would have to upgrade to their newer rf60x and new transceiver in order to obtain HSS with my Olympus mod em1 and mod em5 mark ii. But the prices on those are higher than. Some of the prices you were giving for the setup you used.
Don't use the LCD to frame a portrait shot.... LCD is there to review images and settings. Use Live View only on extreme angles and tight spots. Your digital camera is NOT a phone.
MuertoInc, I’m not trying to troll, but if you can compose and get the shot you want with the LCD what’s the problem with that? I’m fairly new to photography, that’s why I’m asking.
@@DominiKing32 on my DSLR it had some lag between shutter button and actually taking the picture. I'd only use it for odd angle shots. On my OM-1 thats not the case and I see no reason not to use ot if you can compose the shot and get what ya want.
I was blown away by the photos as soon as you used the flash umbrella thingy (note the technical jargon), they were simply stunning and having owned m43 before makes me want to go back!! Simply stunning Lauren was just sublime!! Good job!!
Thanks Steve!
I would love the photos to be just a few seconds longer.
duly noted! we try to keep the videos on the shorter side and figure people could always pause if they need.
I had the exact same thought!
Ditto.
@@TheCameraProject i understand but pausing hte video isnt the same feeling as watching all t once. If you want it fluent its bette if its a few seonds more.
@@pengingamer4510 Fair, we'll try to hold a bit longer next time
Love what Olympus has done here. Short MFD on all of them, focus on smooth bokeh, great build and sharpness wide open- nothing to complain about. Shoot mostly Sony but still love my M43 gear!
Buying these lens the 17mm pro for my em1 mark ii .
Watching this back now I almost forgot how unbelievably cold wet windy and horrible the weather was that day.
Thankyou for the great comparison of these two lenses, all together with the beautiful composition on this beautiful streets and beautiful models. Im keen to 17mm PRO to pair with em1x body. However after seeing this video, i cant decide. both are great lens for m43 system. the 45 looks incredibly sharp
You won't go wrong with either, but it all depends on your usage. The 17 will be more flexible at the standard 35mm focal length. The 45 is more of your classic portrait lens. I'd say of the 2 the 45 stands out more to me over its smaller cheaper counterparts.
@@TheCameraProject i would like to ask your opinion, being that youve played with both lenses and many other. Currently im paring the body with 12-40 PRO as im more onto videos, for youtube and events. It is a very versatile lens with speedy focus and sharp too. If im were to add either one of theses great lenses you've reviewed for stills and beauty shots, or if you are in my position. Which one is your pick. Ive seen your vidoes repeatedly today and still cannot come with a decision . Your thoughts and input will greatly be appreciated . And oareon my bad english too.
@@MALBACHinc I'd go with the 45 if I had to pick one of them.
@@TheCameraProject thanks man
Love the mood and postprocessing in the flash images. They have a lot of style.
The "darkened down streets" shots with the 45mm and flash/brolly were absolutely STUNNING, so good they hit me emotionally. Just WOW. 👏👏👏
@ 1:40 I made up my mind sticking with my 45 1.2 and not getting the 17 …look at the bottom how wide it gets from distortion…..thanks for the compare.
Absolutely. If portraiture is your goal than the 45 is definitely the better choice.
That was a great video with great photos! Definitely one of my faves. Well done!
Are the bokeh the same for both lens? 17mm vs 45mm?
Wow those are really sharp photos.. and lots of those photos are shot wideopen at f1.2...
Perfect place for fast lens! Good job
Great to see you again missed you :)
Wow those lenses are really sharp even wide open, problem is they show up every imperfection and blemish. You my need more time on photoshop than you would with the cheaper premiun 1.8 lenses.
Got to love imperfections. :)
Awesome review. Now I know the distant between lenses and object. Thanks!
More time watching you taken photos than the real photos!!
I sold all my olympus lenses and prefer the colours and micro contrast of Panasonic lenses. The Nocticron 42.5mm f1.2 is amazing and gives the leica pop. Also have Panasonic 12mm f1.4 and its sharp wide open. Work very nice with olympus e-m1 mark ii. I found olympus lenses gave flat colours in general. But personal taste.
Photo Video Guru I know that might be a dumb question, but can you use panasonic lenses on the omds or do you need some kind of adapter or something like this?
(Answer would be super nice)
Lena K. All olympus and panasonic lens will work on each others bodies. I was using olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii with Panasonic lenses before upgrading to e-m1 mark ii
Thankyou very much!
This was great, thanks so much! What flash would you use together with the OM-D 1/5 II? Just getting into flash photography and you really inspired me - thank you!! :)
audentish you can actually find all the flash info in the description for the video. So glad you liked it!
Did you try Panasonic Leica 42.5 1.2 vs Olympus 45 1.2 which one you prefer? Thanks
I've used goth, but not at the same time. I really like both lenses and don't think you'd go wrong with either. If I had to pick one I'd probably pick the Olympus, but only because I have an Olympus camera.
What mounted on top of your camera hot shoe?
Kayser Wong well there is a camera at parts. The Sony FDR X3000. There is also the transmitter for the flash system. That is a Flashpoint r2 transmitter
Were you both shooting with the em5ii as you have in the past?
Bill Whitworth yup!
I think the video footage looked most times better then the pfotos you have taken from the model. The colours and the light look more natural in the video than in the photos....
Can you guys please suggest lenses which can take a model & background at the same time.....
These, just stop down the aperture
buying the E-M10iii next year!the video settings on my D750 is subpar compared to what these cameras can do!thein body stabilization is pretty nice to look at here on youtube but the prices for the pro lenses on these mft are too high I say!shooting pictures with the D750 and film with the E-M10iii!
What kind of piece allows the rod to go through.
Ralph Lewis if you mean for the umbrella it’s just an umbrella mount for a light stand.
Nice! Thank you.
Wow it’s actually quite hard to guess which is which …
Between me and Alison?
Great images fantastic video great lenses beautiful model 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👏🏻😍
great model
Awesome video!
Some of the shots just rock. Love the bokeh.
Thanks Ralph!
This is why I went with the Sony A7ii and the 85mm 1.8
The combo was cheaper and the bokeh was better.
Yup. Micro Four Thirds honestly doesn't make a lot of sense to me anymore, with how expensive both the lenses and bodies are getting. Like the f1.2 lenses on a Micro Four Thirds really are F2.4 lenses on a full frame equivalent, meaning it's actually cheaper to go for like a Sony full frame and an f1.8 lens.
Its a fair point, the problem comes if in addition to your solid primes, you want some compact and low-weight zooms, and don't have the budget to be in 2 systems. I think these lenses help the people who want that shallow depth of field for a certain part of their work, but then want to be able to take the same camera on vacation with something like the 14-150 and not carry a ton of weight, gear, and price of a full frame system.
I still think those lenses are *way* too overpriced, and it would actually be more cost effective to own two systems with two separate range of budget lenses.
And Sony actually does have a few low-weight zooms for their full frame system and to be honest a Sony full frame isn't heavier or bulkier than an Olympus mirrorless, and considering that there's now a bunch of really good cost effective fast prime lenses for the Sony system you can see how MFT is starting to make less and less sense.
Like for the price of two of those Olympus lenses I could actually buy a full frame Sony a7ii ( a really solid camera) and a really good prime lens. And let's not even begin with adapting lenses and how easy it is to focus with a bit of practice and focus peaking.
Just got those lenses yesterday
Omg it's grassonwhat!
Geesh can I take a look at the photos
ive missed your videos the last few months, exited you lot are back. beer and a shot next?
Ewan McIntyre we have a few reviews lined up but when it gets warmer again we’ll get some beer and shot episodes going!
didn't know Sansa Stark did modelling on the side. 😂
Lol I could stop laughing.. she is very good looking but now every pose cracks me up
I don't mean to be mean but why do most modern models look as if they just stepped in something nasty. I do not want happy clappy images but a little less pain might make a nice difference and make the images /models more memorable.
i want this content very nice video thanks
...Both lenses are to big and expensive for what they are. The problem for me as former mFT user is, that the mFT sensors are not capable of enough image quality to justify lenses in that price range. Fuji sells an absolutly pro grade build quality 56mm F1.2 for around 1000€, what is way under that Olympus 45mm F1.2 and there you get a sensor which matches the lenses. So if this would be 800-900€ lenses ok, but they'are definitly not worth a 1300€...
Benjamin Jehne....yeah, had mft, now on nikon full frame. no bias on brand, but larger sensors are always better. I did love the compact size of the micro 4/3 system, and they have tons of technology built into the cameras(not just hype)...but once i saw what the larger sensor does with the overall iq and depth in the photo, it was all over.
Yup. MFT doesn't make any sense anymore. Olympus and Panasonic are pricing their bodies and lenses like full frame cameras which make no sense. The whole point of going the MFT way was to pay way less to get some pro grade features but in a smaller body with a smaller sensor. Olympus body and lenses are grossly overpriced.
A key theme about these lenses is having options. It doesn't make much sense to buy MFT just to get a bunch of f/1.2 primes to minimise DoF when the DoF-equivalent f/2.8 (well, f/2.4 to be exact) lenses on FF are much smaller. Indeed, my old Voigtlander 17.5mm f/0.95 was a comically front-heavy MFT prime compared to the equivalent 35mm Summicron on the M and my old A7. So if your goal was to "maximise bokeh", then go straight to FF. But it's important to recognise that *in addition* to the assortment of low-cost and small MFT lenses (an area in which MFT really shines), you have the *option* of going f/1.2 should you want to.
Regarding the Fuji--I agree with 56/1.2 is a brilliant piece of kit, but so is the 42.5mm f/1.2 Nocticron. I actually prefer the build of the Noct and wish I hadn't sold it. The images were exquisite and my other systems include Canon FF, Leica M and previously Fuji X. I haven't tried the new 45/1.2 but would love to.
Finally, there's video. Until the A7SIII comes out, Sony can't touch the GH5 with its 4K/30 8 bit 4:2:0. The f/1.2 primes really shine on the GH5 for video.
Yeah, Col, I have to agree with you in terms of there being options. The sony system is fantastic, but if you throw some 2.8 primes on that thing it becomes insanely expensive and heavy too. If you are cool just shooting with a few primes, then it might make sense, but the zooms are where things really get insane. It's all about making the kit that works for you. For instance, Maybe keep the 17 1.8 as a walk around lens, and then for your serious portraiture shell out for the 45 1.2. It just depends on what you need.
Apples to Oranges, the Fuji 56mm f1.2 in neither weather sealed, doens't focus as close as and is not as sharp wide open as m.Zuiko 45mm f1.2, which is one of the sharpest lenses Olympus lenses ever produced.
Also, I read somewhere that Fuji is suuuper slow on focusing, while Zuiko is blazingly fast even on my little Pen E-PL7 camera. Farther It has programmable L-Fn button where you can bind any camera function for quick access and a cool manual focus clutch.
So good luck and have fun shooting your "absolutly pro grade build quality" yet not weather sealed lens with snail speed focusing motor on magic unicorn dust Fuji sensor, meanwhile I will enjoy my Zuiko.
Photos should have been longer.
You are featuring the photos of the lens, not the videos of the lens. Otherwise, good work.
Defo better with the flash. And I think 45 looks like pro portraits. 17 looks like someone is trying to make pro portraits.
These lens are more expensive than their f/1.8 full frame equivalent. How is this convenient in any way?
Point taken, and I don't necessarily disagree. However, if you bought micro four thirds, for its portability for travel or it's video features, than having access to fast primes to get you shallow depth of field might be something you are interested in for portraits or shallow depth of field, rather than investing in 2 different systems.
@@TheCameraProject The images look great & can certainly be used professionally and has their own aesthetics some may prefer. I already have two micro four thirds cameras as they used to have the best value for video work a few years back. But now the 35mm mirrorless options include good prices, small lens and if Olympus base their offers on those hooked in the system they need to reconsider. It's easier to switch now. It was so good for us to have so many options to choose from, hope they can all be around for a long time.
@@exinexi having owned f/1.8 “full frame” lenses for several systems, these Olympus Pro lenses blow them away in image quality, build, and features. There’s really no comparison.
Can you take a sec (or a vid) to talk about lighting/flash system used?? Thanks!
Hey Jayme, the model numbers are in the scripting above. Those are the adorama versions. At Unique photo or B&H they would be called Godox, but both are the same thing. It's pretty fantastic and way better than Olympus's own solution in that it is't using one flash to trigger another, it's using IR commanding. So the commander on top of the camera controls all of the settings for multiple groups and multiple flashes if you need. You can use with speed lights or large studio lights as well. They are way cheaper than Olympus branded flashes as well. The flash I was using runs around $120, and the trigger about $50. There is also an $80 model flash for smaller and lighter weight uses which I also own. Great to put in a bag just in case you need one. I hope to do a video on the system one day!
Great video, and yes I’ve heard of using Godoy system ...I currently use a cactus v6 and the compatible rf60 flash, but would have to upgrade to their newer rf60x and new transceiver in order to obtain HSS with my Olympus mod em1 and mod em5 mark ii. But the prices on those are higher than. Some of the prices you were giving for the setup you used.
The Host is Hotter than the model...
yeah he must work out
Snooze!!!! The video was good I'm just tired...
I don't think your choice of shots was helpful in evaluating the 17mm.
Don't use the LCD to frame a portrait shot.... LCD is there to review images and settings. Use Live View only on extreme angles and tight spots. Your digital camera is NOT a phone.
MuertoInc, I’m not trying to troll, but if you can compose and get the shot you want with the LCD what’s the problem with that? I’m fairly new to photography, that’s why I’m asking.
Dumbest comment ever, congrats.
@@DominiKing32 on my DSLR it had some lag between shutter button and actually taking the picture. I'd only use it for odd angle shots. On my OM-1 thats not the case and I see no reason not to use ot if you can compose the shot and get what ya want.