What could possibly go wrong? Jimmy Broadbent takes me around Donington in his 450BHP Toyota Supra
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2023
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In the 90's I did something very stupid. I was listening to the Beastie Boys (which makes it their fault) while driving my Toyota Supra Japanese import down a country road. It was an awesome ride - all black, big whale tale, loads of power and massive tyres - with NO ABS.
I was going too fast and things took a turn for the worse when I arrived on a section of road covered in wet clay from a tractor crossing, just as a fully laden 12-ton truck came the other way. That was the end of my Supra and any illusion that I "knew everything about driving".
The thing I remember most about that Supra was that it was very responsive to the throttle and it didn't take much to get the tail wagging - AND it was HEAVY.. so stopping it took some work and lighter hatches could make mince meat of you on the brakes. I loved my Supra but it was a bit of a beast and not exactly the type of car I expected Jimmy Broadbent - Sim Racer extraordinaire and Praga racing champion - to be playing around with.
The fact that Jimmy doesn't seem phased by the Supra is a source of admiration and concern for me! Either he doesn't know that the Supra wants to eat him alive... or maybe he's a bit of a dark horse and knows more about tuning that I gave him credit for.
The only way to find out was to go on track with him. Getting him to ride with me was a tougher proposition...
The Toyota Supra Mk IV - a la Broadbent - a mighty fine machine and Japanese models seem to be gaining traction with collectors sooooo.....
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So cool to seeing Jimmer being adopted by his racing family. He certainly deserves every bit of success. A fans gratitude to you for playing your part Ben.
The Jimmer cracks me up - but he's serious on track now which is awesome
yeah ive been watching him for a while now, and i remember when he got nabbed for some karting, and then in short order he was in the Praga series. it's really exciting seeing his racing career expanding. he's a fun guy, a good entertainer, and now he's getting his karma back by being able to rub elbows with some big names and big racing series.
Ben is such a gentleman, not a whiff of arrogance driving Jimmy's hooptie, would love to see a series of you retesting cars from your Top Gear days and giving us your opinion on the car and stories about when you tested it for TG. Just an idea, great content, Keep it up!
Deal! Thats a cool idea - just looking up “hooptie” 😂
Deal! Thats a cool idea
@@BenCollinsDrives Hoovie uses it as a term of endearment (mostly)
how is a 450hp supra a hooptie? ridiculous
@@mikenewbold1699 Any car can become a hooptie given the right mistreatment
I like this raw trackday + commentary format. A bit more work on the audio and the editing but the footage is gold
We had an audio failure so this was a backup hail Mary
@@BenCollinsDrives the audio isn’t too bad, but it’s not synced in the first drive bit which is annoying.
Also the subtitles during Ben's run are poorly generated :/
@@damirkvajo yeah I try not to nitpick but it feels like half of Jimmy's lines especially are miswritten, lots of yours instead of you'res - I think it would pay to do a once (or twice) over after they're written to clear up some of that. Otherwise lovely vid!
I found the music(?) slightly off-putting.
Especially over the chatting in the garage, before the driving. First thought was a radio playing in the background.
I was laughing my ass off when Ben said he thought the GTRs would be first to spin off, and then later Jimmy passes two of 'em, in an RWD car at least 10 years older. Goes to show most folks who are likely (over) tuning their cars can't even drive the result. I also loved see that hatch just having a grand ol' time. Great video, gents! Thank you!
we missed it on camera but we were watching the track TV and saw this red missile going around the outside of everyone in the wet, and realised it was Jimmy in his Mazda.. I think he's coming for @autoalex
Listening to the video, somewhat on the back burner, but I looked up when Ben said he'd bring his own rubber the next time he came... Don't know if it was intentional.
@@BenCollinsDrives would be awesome to see Phil against all the different MX5s that team 87 and Jimmer have. a whole weekend of content!
@@henrikcarlsen1881
I sure hope it was intentional, gave me a little chuckle either way
its not the car, its the driver in most cases lol
Love seeing the two of you work together. Your “Ill get you next time, Broadbent!” really is a regular thing on Jimmy’s channel.
love being a thing - be great to race on Nurburgring with Jimmy
Im sure he would love that. Cheers, Ben.
You probably know Ben, but your "Yeah whatever, I'll get you next time Broadbent!" audio is a donation alert on Jimmy's streams and plays dozens of times during a stream. Your voice and sense of humour are etched onto the brains of Jimmy's viewership =)
"We're actually getting overtaken by a forklift."
Top notch commentary Ben, top notch!😂😂😂
"Next time I´ll bring some rubber with me" 🤣love u Ben
Love seeing Ben embracing and being embraced by his new YT cohort. The love of motoring is such a universal language too, so it brings together people of all ages and experience levels without any weirdness or barriers.
there was an initiation process involving a paddle - but they eventually allowed me in
DriveTribe and A Jimmy Video from Ben on the same day. Always love to see more of him. Great driver, great presenter.
You know you’re in for quite an experience when you hear “Oh God!’ From The Stig on multiple occasions.
yeah my inner voice was desperate to ask Jimmy "are you sure..??"
Ben, Jimmy, this is the stuff of dreams. Seeing you two together.. 💕
Sometimes like old car nerd friends, sometimes (like the passenger footwell amnesty montage) like father and son. Wholesome and lovely either way
So funny how the guy in the SEAT probably didn't even know the STIG was behind him, but the Supra just couldn't catch him 🤣🤣
LoLz
I very enjoyed this Ben!
As a fan from your early Stig days I like to see you embracing this new period in your career. Great to see you keeping your passion alive and enjoying all aspects of motorsport.
I've always thought that Mk4s look better either with a wing delete or a GT style monster. The out of sync split screen was err, unusual. 😂Great stuff Ben and Jimmy. Thank you. 🙏
My bro had a Veilside kit on his with no rear spoiler and to this day it's still one of the best looking Supras I've ever seen.
The TRD factory bunny ears are also good looking spoilers
Nah man it looks okay without the wing
@@ProSkye59 Yes pal. With the smooth back end, reminds me of Aston Martins.
Great video! Love the way you two interact with eachother, both genuine friendly people with a mutual passion, absolutely great to see!
JIMMY!!!! The Stig drove your car!!!! And you got to ride with him!!!! You lucky ass!!!! that's bucket list stuff for me right there!!!
Jimmy is such a good person and has really made something a lot of himself from his UA-cam channel. And to see him driving with an absolute motor racing legend like Ben Collins is pretty cool
This was a good watch, more trackdays please :)
Love this. You're probably the same Jimmy, but I'll never get bored of watching any onboard from the likes of Ben, Tiff etc. So underrated (talking general population). These boys can drive. Straight out in any car, any conditions, moving around.... brilliant. I could honestly watch it all day.
I do wonder why people get so hung up on the MK4 Supra's weight so much. UK spec Twin Turbo manual cars were 1566kgs and they were Top spec with 4 pots and diff Oil cooler pumps and Rads. It's basically the same as a BMW E46 m3 and you never hear people complain they are too heavy , And Unlike the M3, the boot floor doesn't fall out or crack the subframe mounts off when it's done a few hard drives. and it's still nearly 150 kgs lighter than the Nissan GTR's that were also on track (1740 kgs)
As Boris the Blade said "Heavy good heavy is Reliable and if it doesn't work, you can still hit them with it.
Boris the Bullet Dodger?
underrated channel at the moment. Been subscribed for a good while now, content is always great.
This is like the Jeremy and Will Young relationship, so much man love waiting to explodes
LoL
As I'm watching this, it is pouring rain outside. Feels like I'm in the back seat!
Great driving guys ❤❤❤. Awesome content. Love you both
i bet yous never thought the bloke playing video games in his shed would end up being a valuable track weapon
Great to see this. Good to see Track driver Vs The Sim Driver. Though now Jimmy is getting legit quick on track….is equally great to see!
Nice video. Looks like a lot of fun. Love the seats in Jimmy’s car! The Supra needs a new paint job or something. Enjoyed watching you two boys at the track. Thanks! 😊
I used to clean that place.. been around there many a time! Love the place!
Good vibes straight from the intro! Nailed it with the FFTD music😎
Playful nicely balanced low-grip rear drive is so much fun. Some of the most fun I’ve had is in an MX-5 on a wet track. Low enough power, light enough, and skinny enough tyres to be really able to sling it around.
The front drive hatch may be more stable in those conditions, but managing understeer constantly is soul sapping for me.
Love the banter 😂😂😂 your a proper wind up merchant Ben 😅😅
Great video that! Being a MKIV Supra owner that also tracks it I love this so much.
Mine has circa 700bhp on low boost haha and 1251bhp at the moment on kill on racefuel, welcome to have a go when I next get out on track Ben.
The stock spoiler surprisingly generates 60kg at 100mph (some say 80kg) and about 160kg at 155mph. You certainly notice it at top speed events and I suspect it’ll be doing something on track but not anything you’d feel.
I think on that wet track you’d need a huge GT wang to even feel it on a Supra.
MKIV can and are beasts on track but they come into there own a lot more on a dry track, can’t wait to get mine back out after watching this ❤🙌
As a Basement Dweller, I have to say that Jimmy do all that driving while narrating what he’s doing to his adoring audience.
You’re not too bad either, Ben. 😉
"Next time I come I'll bring some rubber with me"
Hats off to Jimmer for resisting that low hanging fruit
Love seeing mkiv’s built for track driving!🔥
Brilliant video Ben 👏
This was great to watch. My brain kept melting though when you would do massive countersteers and the 2 vids weren't synced
Super cool Ben, its not everyday you get to hang out with a famous youtuber! Keep grinding m8.
This was a relsly video Ben thankyou. Grrat rapport between you two. You guys should consider colloabing mire.
Seeing you relentlessly wrestle the wheel, Jimmy just sitting there quiet but could see him constantly grinning with his eyes.. magical stuff mate. You must've needed a good sit down after all that sliding 😂
Excellent video, Ben. Great to listen to the discussion on the car and it's setup to ahead of the drive too. Maybe you and Jimmy in a Lancia next for some proper education!
I just admire how you're constantly learning more about your drive - I mean, who else would look up the downforce on that largely cosmetic wing? Great stuff. You have a rare combination of intelligence, experience and bravado. In presenting, I also like your ability to see different sides of an issue (again, like the wing - more downforce would make it faster, but would it still be a track day car?) without getting preachy or judgmental. To paraphrase The Stranger from "The Big Lebowski"... I like your style, Ben...:)
Great video Ben, funny to see how even the great Ben Collins has trouble being a passenger. Makes me wonder what he was like when being in the passenger seat of the reasonably priced car lol
Only thing I will say is when you were talking to Jimmy about the engine and when you got in the car you were talking about what you could see (the engine, the cockpit) but the camera was still pointed at you. Maybe next time turn the camera to the car you're talking about or do a couple of panning shots and edit those in as you're talking.
stakes are higher when there are walls !!
I never thought about that having a car that is on the edge so that when you get in a proper setup you appreciate it more. I loved how Ben and Jimmy were both sharing knowledge.
Best way to learn to drive fast. Suboptimal tyres/grip/traction. Forces you to be much more precise with your steering/pedal input. Fast track driving technique improvements. At least I do that on Gran Turismo, there's probably some other safety issues in real life or something....
How many prayers did Stiggy say while being driven around by Jimmy?
Great idea for the series name! Jimmy and Stiggy! Although maybe you can't use that name for legal reasons...
Several on our first run through Craners 🤪
Looking forward to you getting to drive Minty. Hope we get another great video like this one to commemorate the fact.
Fantastic video, tricky conditions for big torque RWD. The EP3 civic type R was great in the wet, not much power and good tyres meant it was a formidable opponent in the conditions. We all know who has the most fun and skill though. Very entertaining video.
Awesome! Looked like a hoot 😁
Love this mate i just can't wait to see you drive the Jaguar XJR-9
anyone else surprised that Jim Broadbent wasn't the Academy Award, Bafta, Golden Globe winning 75 year old actor?
@BenCollinsDrives. Love the high quality of your videos Ben - raw, yet polished, all at the same time. Amazing interviewing skills - I think you've got a bit of Clarkson on the interview side and a bit of Wilman on the production side! The historical video on Senna's F3 car was absolutely fantastic, as is this review of a more modern Supra turbo. The insider take on everything from the driver's details to the technical engineering aspects of the vehicle - you bring that extra little bit of intelligence to the automotive presentation that very few have the ability to observe, yet the skills to convey in a cogent and interesting manner. Keep up the good work!
Enjoyed this!
Arrrrr Donington and rain, good old east mids 😂
Legend has it, they did have a dry day, but it was that long ago, it's become a bit of a myth 😅
it's a great track in the rain I love it - you can pull some weird lines and play games at the hairpins
@@BenCollinsDrives one day I'll be going round it rather than watching. Gotta keep them dreams alive, until then, I have youtube or a quick drive down road to watch.
One of my favourite memories was the market as a kid, walking round with parents and hearing them and the tire smell coming over the wall. The first day I walked through the other side and saw the track 👌 priceless.
You Brits love driving rwd cars with heaps of bhp in the chucking rain. It's awesome.
I feel like the instrument cluster showing up at 10:59 tells a story :P
Good stuff, Bens seeing his life flashing before his eyes lol!!!
What was the random cluster photo at 10:59? 😂
Liked the vid, looked like fun. I quite enjoy trackdays in the wet, means I can keep up with the more serious machinery in my lowly 987 😅
brilliant stuff!
Love this crossover and reuniting of legends. Bit worried about the AI/human responsible for the subtitles though =)
New subscriber here Ben! I saw you had your own channel on VinWiki. Australian ex-pat here from Steyning in West Sussex. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us! 👍😎🇦🇺
thanks for joining !! Got some exciting stuff in the pipeline and just interviewed some absolute legends for the podcast.. hopefully first of these coming out on Sunday
Great watch again, you pair Mike at Drivetribe and Harry all great viewing
Great video but your producer needs chastising. Video and audio sync issues everywhere.
Always good to see you and Jimmy sharing these moments. Keep them coming.
yep sorry - we have a fubar during the recording
I had a mk4 Supra TT, UK car with a boost controller and Nur Spec exhaust. I usually kept it at stock boost in the wet but forgot one time and it was at 450bhp. Taking off from the lights up a slip road with a slight curve to it and it went quite sideways on me and I held it like that for about 100m. Gave the traffic behind me a bit of a thrill 😆 Super fun car, wish I still had it but it was a thirsty beast.
Love this video! Only point of criticism is this: I don't know who wrote the captions, but they were woefully innaccurate at a number of points
i think I came across thinking you guys definitely up for a show. A weekly show with both of yaa Jimmer and Ben. Trust me ITS FUN! We have a "past" sim Shed dweller champion plus A Stig who never talks and leaves onto driving to speak for itself.
IM ON FOR IT! 🤘
Great vid! Love to see the mkiv action. Ever thought about a colab with Rob Dahm and his rotors?
Jimmys Supra had a different meaning back in the day i must say
Love to see Ben in the JDM hitters. Should try your hand at the full blown drift machines, a "Ben Collins & James Deane in his eurofighter' video would be a sight to behold!
great call thanks - adding to the list!
Good video by ben and finally a vidrmro showing the driving not a helmet lol
Awesome video, cool to see you teaming up w/ Jimmer! Bit of feedback; Audio was out of sync on the onboard cam & quite a few of subtitle errors
Need to do this again in the dry! 👌
I had my first touristenfahrten on the Ring in October. Cold and raining all day. We had a track prepped JCW Mini. I was slipping and sliding too, with more than a few near-Code Brown moments. 😅 Still, was an experience I wouldn't have missed.
That generation had functional scoops at the rear which vented into the rear tire wells right onto the tire, which 1994-1995 ford mustang also had (later ones were fake and just a dead end) - I always thought it was weird both companies invested the time and money to include those scoops but then both abandoned it.
I had a Supra TT 420bhp and in the wet is was the slowest car I've ever owned :)
Some of the footage on the left is in front of that on the right x this tripped my head
Mr Collins... Another fantastic video, and fantastic drive... Love all you do...
But please, with all due respect to your video editor, they need to work on Audio Sync between separated Mic and Video tracks... Made it somewhat difficult to correlate between the steering corrections in reaction to the wheelspin and the gear changes that we saw in the Video, and what we heard of the over-revving and engine speed changes in the soundtrack...
Would also have been nice if you could have Mic'd up Jimmy too, so the conversations were not so one-sided - particularly in-car where we could only hear your side of the convo...
Looking forward to the next one...
Best Regards,
Tigger
Love that Mk4. Its like a less-patina version of Cleetus' Ratrod Supra. Having a turbo already if the trans is made up to take it, 450hp is just the beginning lol. Killer regardless!
we need to see a Mazda celebrity race - another one on my list!
@@BenCollinsDrives heck yeah! I totally agree
Awesome 😊
Great POV view from that camera, any chance you could share what it is and where to get one ?
Very kind of Ben, checking on Jimmy's sphincter.
Here’s a challenge to you, Ben: you should get another MKIV Supra and build it your way. More aero, tune the suspension your way, turbo, etc. . And the MKIV is not heavy when compared to modern platforms- 3,450. An R35 is 3,800lbs, very portly!
Reading the subtitles is half of the fun
I think the ABS in the Supra must be pretty good, I think when Car and Driver or something tested it in period, it had the shortest stopping distance of any car. Also yeah the 2JZ engine is famously powerful when modified, but because it's so heavy and the car is so long you mostly see modded Supras as drag cars. Looks very fun, although there's only so much you can learn about a car's capabilities when it's that wet. Maybe proofread your subtitles a bit more thoroughly for your next video?
Edit: excited about that hint that you may drive the Mint MX-5 monster :)
ABS was v good - mine had none and I discovered the hard when I flat spotted my front left with some spirited braking and entering ...
11:58 - every car person can relate 😂
Great vid! Love the longer format showing both your styles in full. Very relaxing and also very informative, seeing the interaction between you two. Your teacher/coach persona really comes out with Jimmy behind the wheel and in contrast your driver/excitement comes through when you are.
And I might be alone in this but I especially like the 1st person /helmet cam stuff. It really puts me there and I feel the swoop n flow much more. But what I really appreciate is how it shows me when and where you look to the apexes. (Having driven that track a fair bit in sim) seeing when you start preparing your turns is super fascinating. I still have so much to learn and that view gives me a glimpse into a real pro’s technique.
Very Awesome.
(Ps I found the baked-in subtitles distracting because they couldn’t be turned off and weren’t very accurate anyway. I kept my thumb over them so I could hear what you were actually saying)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Interesting insertion of subliminal guage cluster at 11 minutes mark.
Proud of our little shed dweller 😃
Some say the Stig is scared of Supras, at times you can hear a squeak from his rear end, all
We know is that he is called The Stig!!!
What is that sub conscious advert at 11.00 bang on? Weird that 😂😂
I've had/driven Supra MK4s, and I still have a standard JDM N/A Auto Supra maybe for sale.
I will tell you this, the earlier models, even an N/A, will teach you a lesson if you can not control it with it being heavy and no assists.
Once powerslided around a roundabout in the wet and it made me understand car control from then on.
Content idea. Ben Collins drives other people’s track day cars and Jimmy Broadbent supplies the cars. This good tv.
Boy in the Civic knew what he was doing.😎
"I think it's best you concentrate" XD
Jimmer is not having to worry about reading chat so he has more than enough brain power for concentration.
This is probably easy mode for him to be honest
"Hows ya sphincter?" lmao
Great vid but could have done without the music (if thats what it was) playing in the background and whoever added the subtitles needs to have another go...
Would love to see you driving Jimmys R32 GT-R Ben.
100% agreed, I can't understand why this was given a green light to upload. Ben deserves better, I'd say.
A fun little video. Interesting to see the differences in driving styles between you both.
Unfortunately the video editing was a bit sloppy: desynced video in some of the multi-cam shots, audio desynced in a few clips, and subtitles had some mispellings in too.
10:46 got me giggling 😄
"It looks like it's been left in a shed for a while". Was Ben referring to the car or Jimmer?
Who did the subtitles? I thought UA-cam had started it's own random madness lol. Nice drive!
Being just a road car the wing is more for reducing lift at high speed than making down force. The mk4 Supra was really just a high speed tourer than a track weapon, although it was a weapon when transformed to JGTC spec. Best of all the Supra versions though. Collins must have been jesting with all that nervous act though, a big woolly Supra with only 450 brake is hardly scary on a track!
450hp in the rain with tyres that weren't really meant for wet driving, makes a bit of a difference lol he was putting in quite a bit of countersteer on the straights even though he was well into 3rd gear already.
I did notice Ben immediatly started to drive the car at the edge, got to grips really quickly. not the giddy limit but was 8/10s by the end of his first lap.