Great review. Its super stable but still sporty. Ive heard many people talk about this boat as a " big water" boat to which I agree but its also a super fun class 1 to 3 boat also and very stable for the beginner.
Good call on all of it, Gord! I swam out of mine in shallow, rocky water tonight...in calm water it pops up well, but it's a bit more work in moving water for sure. It does not like shallow water at all, in my opinion...or more accurately, with my skill level. Stability, speed, comfort, and that monster-truck approach to features are its strong points.
i agree with everything except rollability- i’d give it a 1. i’m new this yr to hardshell but can roll most any boat decently now except this m/l. You might be right about the suction, but if you just look at the height and width of the side rails and their relationship to the cockpit it makes it difficult to get the paddle relatively flat to the surface of the water because the elbow/arm is restricted quickly. i put it up next to the scorch x and reactr med and phantom and there was several inches difference. i do agree moving seat frwd will help but I don’t think that should’ve been dagger’s solution. Anyway, I appreciate your reviews. I do wonder if the indra s/m would have the same issues. cheers.
You are not alone with this I've had a few friends find the same thing. I know the Steeze can be difficult to roll as well. I've had the Indra and Steeze side by side and they are very similar. I really focus on my knee drive more in this boat than others when rolling. Definitely something paddlers should be aware of when choosing this boat. I have seen paddlers have no issue with it too. Probably different for each person's style.
Thank you, great review
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Great review. Its super stable but still sporty. Ive heard many people talk about this boat as a " big water" boat to which I agree but its also a super fun class 1 to 3 boat also and very stable for the beginner.
Absolutely 💯 I agree
Good call on all of it, Gord! I swam out of mine in shallow, rocky water tonight...in calm water it pops up well, but it's a bit more work in moving water for sure. It does not like shallow water at all, in my opinion...or more accurately, with my skill level. Stability, speed, comfort, and that monster-truck approach to features are its strong points.
@@brentwade9346 great boat, they all have plus and minuses
@@gordmccoll5009 Mine is much better with rolling since shifting the seat back a little and putting the seat shim in.
i agree with everything except rollability- i’d give it a 1. i’m new this yr to hardshell but can roll most any boat decently now except this m/l. You might be right about the suction, but if you just look at the height and width of the side rails and their relationship to the cockpit it makes it difficult to get the paddle relatively flat to the surface of the water because the elbow/arm is restricted quickly. i put it up next to the scorch x and reactr med and phantom and there was several inches difference. i do agree moving seat frwd will help but I don’t think that should’ve been dagger’s solution. Anyway, I appreciate your reviews. I do wonder if the indra s/m would have the same issues. cheers.
You are not alone with this I've had a few friends find the same thing. I know the Steeze can be difficult to roll as well. I've had the Indra and Steeze side by side and they are very similar. I really focus on my knee drive more in this boat than others when rolling. Definitely something paddlers should be aware of when choosing this boat. I have seen paddlers have no issue with it too. Probably different for each person's style.