Point North - Into The Dark (Feat. Kellin Quinn) [Official Music Video]

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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    The official music video for Point North's new single "Into The Dark (Feat. Kellin Quinn)" available now on Hopeless Records!
    Directed by Bryam Castellanos
    @bryambryam
    www.bryambryam.com
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    Lyrics
    What’s it like being broken
    I know that life ain’t fair
    But you’re the only one who cares
    And if our pain is shared
    You know it’s yours I’m holding
    Cuz if it’s mine to bear
    I’m not afraid to be repaired
    I’m treading in your water
    I don’t wanna but I gotta
    You know I like it when I’m drowning
    Reaching for your hand like it’s all that I can count on
    Into the dark
    Trying not to lose myself when I go too far
    Where do I start
    When every turn I take keeps us apart
    I need a sunrise in the dawn
    Show me what the world is running from lately
    I used to see you around almost every day
    With some other guy hand up on your waist
    And I saw the smile that was on your face
    I guess I never thought that you could just replace me erase me
    But now babe it doesn’t even phase me
    I kissed you good bye
    And moved on from the madness
    And like a phoenix I rose from the ashes
    Shutting down cuz I feel nothing
    Cuz I’m always trying find something
    Feelin like I wanna give up think I got a problem now
    Don’t believe in what I can’t see
    If I fall I wanna fall free
    Even if we never let go you just gotta say so
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 321

  • @_hana_1214
    @_hana_1214 4 роки тому +566

    came for Kellin, stayed for Point North cuz damn this slaps

  • @mrbluejean
    @mrbluejean 9 місяців тому +1

    Where has this song been all my life

  • @amberleann
    @amberleann 4 роки тому +3

    THIS IS SO GOOD AHHHHHHHHHH

  • @darlam6537
    @darlam6537 4 роки тому +1

    sooooo excited to hear this in nj

  • @ToodelsALX
    @ToodelsALX 4 роки тому

    The Beginning reminds me of Save me from the Dark :)

  • @EntservChannel
    @EntservChannel 4 роки тому +1

    Great!

  • @visionpond1298
    @visionpond1298 4 роки тому +1

    Love love love the song but hate the music video

  • @lanie5759
    @lanie5759 4 роки тому +523

    Wow ive never heard of you guys before but this song was absolutely amazing. I'll definitely be checking out some more songs now

    • @lostdakota
      @lostdakota 4 роки тому +7

      BookDragon If you dig Point North, you might like our sound! We take a lot of influence from them, especially the last song we put out last week :)

    • @lanie5759
      @lanie5759 4 роки тому +5

      @@lostdakota oh i'll definitely give you guys a look then!

    • @floobor
      @floobor 4 роки тому +4

      There awesome

    • @TheTrooperMB
      @TheTrooperMB 4 роки тому +3

      the album is just phenomenal !

    • @TheTrooperMB
      @TheTrooperMB 4 роки тому +4

      @@lostdakota will look for you and see if you'll appear in my playlist ;)

  • @junhansguitar1036
    @junhansguitar1036 4 роки тому +134

    I clicked bc Kellin, but now I have a band to add to my list of obsessions....this song almost physically felt like a hug if you get what I mean

    • @revengeacademy
      @revengeacademy 4 роки тому +3

      Their album just dropped and it’s totally gas

    • @cheyennekuehn6578
      @cheyennekuehn6578 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed I also came for Kellin

    • @Cc-zk9lb
      @Cc-zk9lb 3 місяці тому

      You've probably heard of them by now, buuuutt look up Movements! And PVRIS!

  • @n.e.4983
    @n.e.4983 4 роки тому +116

    Point North gets better and better with every song they release

  • @unichvz7486
    @unichvz7486 4 роки тому +98

    Im so glad you signed with hopeless. I always knew this band was really onto something and I know this is just the beginning. Keep up the great work!

    • @kiragonzalez4459
      @kiragonzalez4459 4 роки тому +2

      uni chvz i just saw them at a concert. They’re not too bad. They’re really cool if that makes sense

  • @jamespottertm7457
    @jamespottertm7457 4 роки тому +163

    Am I the only one who sorta burst out laughing when the photo of Kellin with the drawing on his face appeared in the video?

    • @stamit28
      @stamit28 4 роки тому +9

      I didn't notice that till I read your comment and yes it did make me chuckle lol

    • @LarsXavier
      @LarsXavier 4 роки тому +5

      Lmao me too

  • @sorbetbugs
    @sorbetbugs 4 роки тому +102

    "Show me what the world is running from lately"
    We're running from 2020.

    • @rikkipowers3921
      @rikkipowers3921 3 роки тому +1

      almost there now! keep going!

    • @deadchannel89
      @deadchannel89 3 роки тому

      We goth through now we are getting through 2021

  • @dev0tedanna
    @dev0tedanna 4 роки тому +47

    Wow, Point North - you just gain me as a fan pretty kick ass collab

    • @Ju-kr4jj
      @Ju-kr4jj Рік тому

      Same here I just noticed this song today 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @missamanda5259
    @missamanda5259 4 роки тому +32

    Saw you guys open for Sleeping with Sirens last night and I am obsessed. You guys are amazing!!!

  • @jennapurr4353
    @jennapurr4353 4 роки тому +34

    Point North and Kellin killed this song live. so damn good! 🔥❤

  • @Ann-ig3yi
    @Ann-ig3yi 4 роки тому +53

    YESS OMG I LOVE POINT NORTH IMMA SEE THEM TOMORROW WITH SWS AND NOW THAT THEY HAVE A SONG WITH KELLIN U AM LIVING WOOO!!!!!!!!

    • @megancollier9945
      @megancollier9945 4 роки тому +5

      Question: Does SWS stand for Sleeping with Sirens coz my favourite band are touring with them, they are called Set It Off🥺

    • @Ann-ig3yi
      @Ann-ig3yi 4 роки тому +2

      @@megancollier9945 YES this is gonna be my second time seeing Set it Off, I can't wait to see them again!

    • @megancollier9945
      @megancollier9945 4 роки тому +2

      Ann OMG I LOVE THEM!!! I was supposed to meet them in October but it got rescheduled to April due to Cody’s operation 🥺 HAVE FUN THO!!!!💙

    • @Ann-ig3yi
      @Ann-ig3yi 4 роки тому +2

      @@megancollier9945 Thank you :) Glad to have spoken to a fellow fan! :D

    • @megancollier9945
      @megancollier9945 4 роки тому +2

      Ann same!! Not many people know about them and it makes me so sad

  • @Neenee82476
    @Neenee82476 2 роки тому +16

    So I found this song a few weeks ago on Spotify (bit late I know)
    And I've listened to it I swear more than 100 times already
    It's amazing and I love it 💙

    • @Matin270189
      @Matin270189 2 роки тому +1

      my alexa played it randomly many months ago haha

  • @ElitexBrikz
    @ElitexBrikz 3 роки тому +15

    I’ve been listening to y’all since you came out and It’s crazy to see how y’all went from being somewhat small time last year to now about to go on tour with Asking Alexandria and A Day To Remember that’s fucking AWESOME congrats to you keep up the hard work ♥️

  • @brandonlata258
    @brandonlata258 4 роки тому +15

    Went to high school with Point Norths drummer. Awesome dude.

  • @Daryki
    @Daryki 4 роки тому +67

    amazing

    • @rhyanrodriguez2129
      @rhyanrodriguez2129 3 роки тому +1

      nao ganhei meus 2 cm q vc me prometeu, mas consegui a namorada, usem o codigo

  • @heyimjoshnicetomeetya
    @heyimjoshnicetomeetya 4 роки тому +27

    Rawring 20's are on, everyone.

  • @_t3ab0ttles36
    @_t3ab0ttles36 2 роки тому +2

    God this song deserves a way better animation

  • @the-inatorinator
    @the-inatorinator 2 роки тому +8

    This video really captures that 2010s scene kid *essence*

  • @jocelyn8078
    @jocelyn8078 4 роки тому +42

    That chorus is so good

  • @____yc
    @____yc 3 роки тому +6

    thanks spotify for random this song to me

  • @YJ-uo5hs
    @YJ-uo5hs 4 роки тому +39

    That voice is absolutely incredible and the sound is kinda fresh. Amazing !

  • @gloria5122
    @gloria5122 4 роки тому +6

    The beginning sounds like the beginning for Check yes Juliet. Am I the only one who hears this??

  • @xodinn
    @xodinn 4 роки тому +17

    First time listening to them! I like it (:

    • @JaredLand
      @JaredLand 4 роки тому +2

      Dani L. Damn rights 🤘🏻💙🦋

  • @CourageCoreTV
    @CourageCoreTV 4 роки тому +9

    who the hell took acid when making this video

  • @tjbrophy329
    @tjbrophy329 3 роки тому +5

    Point North/Sleeping with Sirens was the last concert I went to (in February) before the pandemic hit. This song was amazing live. Here’s hoping we can go to concerts again soon.

  • @wbs1O1
    @wbs1O1 4 роки тому +14

    Point North - Into the Dark - Lyrics
    [Intro: Jon Lundin]
    Yeah
    Yeah
    C'mon
    Yeah
    Uh
    [Verse 1: Jon Lundin]
    Don't wanna say I'm scared
    What's it like being broken?
    I know that life ain't fair
    But you're the only one who cares
    Yeah, if our pain is shared
    You know it's yours I'm holding
    'Cause if it's mine to bear
    I'm not afraid to be repaired
    [Pre-Chorus: Jon Lundin]
    'Cause I'm treading in your water
    I don't wanna, but I gotta, yeah
    You know I like it when I'm drowning
    Reaching for your hand like it's all that I can count on
    [Chorus: Jon Lundin]
    Into the dark
    Trying not to lose myself when I go too far
    Where do I start
    When every turn I take keeps us apart?
    I need a sunrise in the dawn
    Show me what the world is running from lately
    [Verse 2: Kellin Quinn]
    I used to see you 'round almost every day
    With some other guy, hand up on your waist
    And I saw the smile that was on your face
    I guess I never thought that you could just replace me, erase me
    But now, babe, it doesn't even phase me
    I kissed you goodbye and moved on from the madness
    And like a phoenix, I rose from the ashes
    [Pre-Chorus: Kellin Quinn]
    'Cause I'm treading in your water
    I don't wanna but I gotta, yeah
    You know I like it when I'm drowning
    Reaching for your hand like it's all I ever count on
    [Chorus: Jon Lundin & Kellin Quinn]
    Into the dark
    Trying not to lose myself when I go too far
    Where do I start
    When every turn I take keeps us apart?
    I need a sunrise in the dawn (I need a sunrise in the dawn)
    Show me what the world is running from
    [Verse 3: Jon Lundin]
    Shutting down 'cause I feel nothing
    'Cause I'm always trying to find something
    Feelin like I wanna give up think I got a problem now
    Don't believe in what I can't see
    If I fall, I wanna fall free
    Even if we never let go, you just gotta say so, oh-oh
    [Pre-Chorus: Jon Lundin & Kellin Quinn]
    'Cause I'm treading in your water
    I don't wanna but I gotta, yeah
    You know I like it when I'm drowning
    Reaching for your hand like it's all that I can count on, yeah
    [Chorus: Jon Lundin & Kellin Quinn, both]
    Into the dark
    Trying not to lose myself when I go too far
    Where do I start
    When every turn I take keeps us apart?
    I need a sunrise in the dawn (I need a sunrise in the dawn)
    Show me what the world is running from lately (Yeah)
    I need a sunrise in the dawn (I need a sunrise in the dawn)
    Show me what the world is running from lately (Yeah)
    [Outro: Jon Lundin]
    Go with me

    • @wbs1O1
      @wbs1O1 4 роки тому +1

      Before anyone points it out I know about the lyrics in the comments but they are not complete. Happens unusually often even on the top videos.

    • @ausernameiguess7058
      @ausernameiguess7058 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @cosmic_gemini7
      @cosmic_gemini7 3 роки тому +1

      thank you!!

  • @islesncapsgr8ovie276
    @islesncapsgr8ovie276 2 місяці тому +2

    great song, horrible music video, must make a new one

  • @f0kxi
    @f0kxi 3 роки тому +190

    Pop Punk, Trap, EDM, Pop. So many flavors wrapped into one sound. These are some creative geniuses

    • @karldxr5344
      @karldxr5344 3 роки тому +13

      I'd say it's metal without solos, trap, edm, and pop.

    • @hoshiko3297
      @hoshiko3297 3 роки тому +8

      @@karldxr5344 actually reminds me of Nu metal mixed with 2020 influences

    • @mikedelvecchio3193
      @mikedelvecchio3193 3 роки тому +3

      @@hoshiko3297 I hear more of a hard rock pop mix to it. Either way whatever it is I think we can all agree it's a damn good song

    • @agustinac9230
      @agustinac9230 2 роки тому +6

      @@mikedelvecchio3193 I'd say it's emo pop, or alt rock

    • @VeganCatalyst
      @VeganCatalyst 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@agustinac9230 would double down on alt rock & here and there electronic elements.

  • @seankrekel2452
    @seankrekel2452 4 роки тому +8

    Im in a dark place right now, and this song hits me. trying not to lose myself as i go too far

    • @boosted1230
      @boosted1230 2 роки тому +2

      Same here bro it sucks but this helps so much

  • @letsroamaround2189
    @letsroamaround2189 4 роки тому +49

    Love the animation style and the song slaps kellin goes along well with this song

  • @xxcndyxx4511
    @xxcndyxx4511 Рік тому +2

    Found this song by accident because google misunderstood me... Wow the best accident ever. This is a masterpiece 😍💓💓💓

  • @SnackJar
    @SnackJar 4 роки тому +2

    This is soft as baby shit 😂 man when did hopeless start signing shit bands

  • @quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
    @quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 4 роки тому +13

    R&Bcore.

    • @FabulousKilljoy
      @FabulousKilljoy 4 роки тому +8

      Isn’t that Issues

    • @andromeda7394
      @andromeda7394 3 роки тому

      @@FabulousKilljoy Yes and also "Forget Tomorrow". This style deserves more representation :D

  • @eserpapereira
    @eserpapereira 4 роки тому +7

    Haven’t even finished listening to the song, but this is a HELLA good songggg!

  • @Wargwolf91
    @Wargwolf91 3 роки тому +2

    Does anyone else hear at 2:48 the lyric "In the dark, I go too far"

  • @tempoyakgorengofficial
    @tempoyakgorengofficial 4 роки тому +4

    I saw Kellin, I press LIKE.

  • @NeverB_Gameover
    @NeverB_Gameover 4 роки тому +2

    If Sonic the hedgehog was a person.

  • @wespapes2054
    @wespapes2054 4 роки тому +32

    Hooked on this song, despite not liking Kellin Quinn's vocals. But having them in a small dose is the best option for me. And it's a small part of this song, which kicks ass.

  • @andrecollins8861
    @andrecollins8861 3 роки тому +3

    Can’t believe this came out a year ago time is scary

  • @jaredryan1505
    @jaredryan1505 4 роки тому +1

    Man DY and Point North are literally my two favourite bands right now!
    ua-cam.com/video/kvDyItzl3l4/v-deo.html

  • @michaelcaviness5992
    @michaelcaviness5992 3 роки тому +3

    Everyone else came for Kellin but I’ve been jamming to Point North for years! These people have been missing out but I’m glad they’ve finally found y’all! The new cd slaps.

  • @kitsunecantrun
    @kitsunecantrun 4 роки тому +8

    needed an acoustic version of thiiissss ♥️♥️🔥🔥🔥

    • @harmony8278
      @harmony8278 3 роки тому

      I'm not sure if you've found it or are even interested anymore lol (It's been a year)
      But just in case you are: ua-cam.com/video/vZ4EEG3ZkTA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HopelessRecordsHopelessRecordsVerified

  • @ElleP7
    @ElleP7 3 роки тому +1

    What is he singing at the very very beginning? "She's your..." Can't figure out the last word.

  • @giorgostsak427
    @giorgostsak427 4 роки тому +17

    When the first single came out I was like: "damn, this is amazing.I'm totally into this.Definitely keeping an eye on them!"
    When this new single came out: "Well ok Point North is a new fav band confirmed"

  • @TheAntManChannel
    @TheAntManChannel 6 місяців тому +1

    This chorus gets stuck in my head and im okay with that

  • @richnerd8757
    @richnerd8757 3 роки тому +2

    I am no longer worried about the next wave of punk rock bands! I will absolutely compare this band to the goats like Yellowcard and all time low, cuz I honestly think they do compare. Keep up the awesome music, Point North!

  • @arisnurcahyoofficial
    @arisnurcahyoofficial 4 роки тому +7

    This is so good!

  • @kohammie
    @kohammie 4 роки тому +2

    bro its sonic

  • @denisecoulson941
    @denisecoulson941 3 роки тому +3

    Kellin’s voice 😜 I don’t even know why but it’s magical 😂

  • @Fraend
    @Fraend 4 роки тому +3

    First line of the lyrics "Don't wanna say I'm scared" is missing in the description :)correct if you can

  • @olliedavies9328
    @olliedavies9328 4 роки тому +5

    UA-cam took a long time to notify me

  • @mynameisnotmyname4733
    @mynameisnotmyname4733 4 роки тому +3

    This came up in my recommendations today and after that I have been listening to all ur songs all day. New fan here😊😂👍

  • @bobandtay7139
    @bobandtay7139 4 роки тому +1

    This song helped me through my crack cocaine addicition.

  • @serious_goose
    @serious_goose 4 роки тому +2

    If you haven’t heard these guys cover of Hammer by nothing,nowhere you’re missing out.🤷‍♂️

  • @joseluisleal5471
    @joseluisleal5471 4 роки тому +6

    Love the song but the video got me like... WTF... 😂😂😂

  • @JentaRose
    @JentaRose Рік тому +1

    Love the song but I was wondering the art direction of the music video itself. Any context?

  • @brunohebert-brassard6281
    @brunohebert-brassard6281 3 роки тому +1

    this song would be so much better if that girl wouldn't figure in it

  • @thirdeyeprofit7659
    @thirdeyeprofit7659 2 роки тому +1

    This song is fuckkng amazing great pimp for the gym

  • @shleepysilva
    @shleepysilva 4 роки тому +3

    Seeing you guys at the “Anywhere But Here” 10 year show in LA. Having a name like Kellin in one of your songs is awesome! Keep grinding guys! I’m glad Blake from Oh, Weatherly told me about you!

  • @xk8581
    @xk8581 4 роки тому +1

    this song is awesome but the videos is so trashy smh

  • @julio749
    @julio749 3 роки тому +2

    👿 #14012021 (4PM GMT+7)

  • @Deathpixie3
    @Deathpixie3 3 роки тому +2

    Snoic the Hoghedge

  • @JefferriAndrews
    @JefferriAndrews 2 роки тому +2

    Saw y’all live last night in Columbia, SC. What an amazing set!!!

  • @nine02
    @nine02 4 роки тому +4

    Sws next records = hopeless records 🤘

  • @yungberseker144
    @yungberseker144 4 роки тому +2

    like anyone, i came for kellin but this was actually pretty darn good

  • @potat099
    @potat099 4 роки тому +3

    I clicked bc of Keilin. I like this song. I wasn't expecting this.

    • @EnterMidnight0
      @EnterMidnight0 4 роки тому +1

      Did the same thing when it came out its amazing

  • @iestynmoyle215
    @iestynmoyle215 4 роки тому +4

    Best part of 2020 right here

  • @tylerkronz7583
    @tylerkronz7583 4 роки тому +2

    Please
    Blow
    *Up*

  • @boozcheez
    @boozcheez 4 роки тому +3

    This deserves more views and comments. I can't stop playing it!

  • @lukescapee1234
    @lukescapee1234 4 роки тому +3

    Another banger

  • @brockd2846
    @brockd2846 3 роки тому +3

    The instrumentals at the begging are insane

  • @highraven8891
    @highraven8891 3 роки тому +1

    i wish this could play louder! ....

  • @CJW0056
    @CJW0056 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, was expecting millions of views, very catchy song

  • @missmysterious
    @missmysterious 4 роки тому +2

    a collab i never knew i needed. thank you for this, i love it!

  • @corbinmoore96
    @corbinmoore96 3 роки тому +3

    the animation could've used a bit more time but otherwise idk why this doesn't have millions of views a year later

    • @Sergio-nb4hj
      @Sergio-nb4hj 2 роки тому +1

      I like it. It gives off a strong late 2000s internet vibe

  • @dollycoally34
    @dollycoally34 3 роки тому +2

    This is one of my favorite songs of 2020. Seriously, you guys are awesome!

  • @polovt9511
    @polovt9511 4 роки тому +1

    Performed this song when u guys came to Utah with sleeping with sirens

  • @mikeyeverett3339
    @mikeyeverett3339 3 роки тому +1

    In all honesty, this is the only song I can actually sit through. Maybe it's his lyric style..? It's off-putting to me for some reason. Maybe because the lyrics aren't really connected all the way through the song.

  • @LeoLHC
    @LeoLHC 4 роки тому +2

    You're the next big thing. So talented. Keep going guys

  • @tabitha5939
    @tabitha5939 4 роки тому +2

    Love it! You guys are amazing! Can't wait to see you guys, along with sws, sio, and belmont, in Grand Rapids next month! Much love❤

  • @CruzCreative
    @CruzCreative 4 роки тому +2

    I was not expecting this AMAAAAZING COLLAB

  • @Valorios
    @Valorios 3 роки тому +2

    such a good song, thanks spotify for recommending

  • @SomebodyelseBiteme
    @SomebodyelseBiteme 3 роки тому +1

    I love Kellin and have for many years and I love this song. Can some bands watch this video to see this is what’s called a “ really good video”? No wacky getting pushed around in shopping carts, or eating purple eggs and/or cake with yer hands; no guys sitting on the john in the taking a dump position while playing their guitar, no face painting in ugly colors. Just…..this.
    I can think of one or two bands with some great songs and a charismatic lead singer who could do almost anything for a video (for example: wearing mostly white (i think) enclosed in a small white room, writing and erasing and rewriting the song lyrics with speed changing at various times - a really good video) (IMO, of course) but when groups slip into that riding in shopping carts and putting purple eggs in their mouths, i.e: “middle school wackiness” , it really detracts from the respect the song and the group deserve.

  • @nachocavieres5242
    @nachocavieres5242 4 роки тому +2

    Primera canción que escucho de ustedes y me pareció muy buena, van por muy buen camino

  • @Hampton100
    @Hampton100 4 роки тому +1

    First song I heard then Hammer by n,n. and they’re signed to HOPELESS?? They’re sooo soo good wow

  • @rah1998
    @rah1998 3 роки тому +2

    👍

  • @sickandtired12
    @sickandtired12 3 роки тому +1

    I just heard this song AND discovered this band in @WeSkeem livestream!! What rock have I've been sleeping under!!! I have s BIG catalog to dive into!!🔥🤘

  • @simone.7076
    @simone.7076 4 роки тому +1

    Used to know the drummer.

  • @sethcolson2944
    @sethcolson2944 4 роки тому +1

    I only know about of point north because of sleeping with sirens and I love them now

  • @TheOfficialKiDK
    @TheOfficialKiDK 3 роки тому +1

    Just seen you guys open for a day to remember in Minneapolis Monday, definitely can say I’m a huge fan after hearing you guys live!!

  • @ILoveSaturn400
    @ILoveSaturn400 4 роки тому +1

    Dude I saw them on the Medicine tour on January 22nd in Dallas and they sounded really good. If you’re just hearing them I really recommend listening to them!!

  • @bunkbunk7799
    @bunkbunk7799 4 роки тому +2

    saw them live two days ago. it's well worth it

  • @KianiOrta5347
    @KianiOrta5347 4 роки тому +1

    The art and lyrics hit so different, if there was a way to physically explain how i felt after my last breakup, it would be this video as silly as it seems

  • @anodyne_icon
    @anodyne_icon 4 роки тому +1

    *when you upload your first music video to newgrounds*