My favorite thing about Beat Street is that it was filmed during the Winter and it captured the fashion especially sheep skin coats, the shell Addis’s and what it also captured was our rooms all looked that,
I wish more people, especially writers (obviously), knew their history! Many of the new generation of writers coming up, have no clue about the history of graffiti. I'm happy to see a solid documentary with many of the 1st train writers, the style originators, stating as a matter of fact, that "modern day" Graffiti was being done well before "Hip-Hop" was born! People like Cornbread started in the late 60's! Cholo-Writing in the west coast & south west, started long before that! Even before the invention of Spray Paint in 1949. So many of the older writers didn't even listen to Hip-Hop when it started being produced. Plenty of today's writers don't listen to Hip-Hop! It was appropriated & packaged into something that was easy to market! I love Graff, I love Hip-Hop, Djing, Breaking, absolutely! I'm also into tons of other genres of music!
That's what I'm saying. I'm a toy, can't say what I write government name lol. But no one respects your a toy going in stages mine was as basic as takis slowly learning to do more style after I got lined by someone I like and yer now my rival so called king in my area even though I'm up more lol rivalry sometimes it's a good thing. Once the graffiti bug bite there's no going back.
Graffiti absolutely is a part of hip hop culture what people have wrong is that in actual fact graffiti helped influence and create hip hop, not the other way round.
Grew up in the Graffiti scene in the 80s Graffiti was never part of the Rap scene, its a fact, NYC was divided. It wasn't until it was marketed that all 3 were combined.
Being a bomber from Newark, NJ. I hated the fact we were always in the shadow of NYC in the 80's and we finally started to slip out of it by the 1994 and some of us went world wide But we had crazy fucking styles that only New Jersey writers did and now they been bit all over the world but Newark Wild Style could never be replicated unless you from here. And that style is still special to me, like nobody can ever take that from us! ✌️ Zew1 FR/OUT/SGK/666 Newark, NJ
No doubt, I definitely took notice first time I came across it in Crazy Kings magazine and the ''Wrong Side of the Tracks' video. I'm from the Midwest btw. Props to Newark, crazy sick styles indeed!
I think Peter needs to get me in his documentary of Brooklyn writers IM JN and have a lot of history would like to do an interview about my story from toy to graffiti vandal to legend .
New York New York Big City of Dreams. Block BUSTER FOREVER, Respect COMETS Bubbles Letters FOR L. I. F. E , TAKI 187 BG 183 TRUE KINGZ BLADE , ZEPHYR, and ALL and EVERY WRITER in N. Y. C. Never STOP.
You cannot dis beat street as package product, one best elements of Beat Street is that it takes place during the winter, lep wearing his sheep skin, we would go bombing on Christmas because we had the yarn to ourselves, I had kid capri in my class in 1981,
IN 1994, JSON , COMIT WERE STILL UP BACK THEN . NOW IT'S ALL THESE WRITERS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN STREETS AND HIGHWAYS WERE BOMBED. IT ALL STARTED GETTING CLEAN 1995.
Stay High got me there. Man wants to sell a few paintings. Goodness rest his Soul. I have some great stuff from Nyc but StayHigh149 should / could/ will be up there with the Finest of Fine Art!!! In 200 years people will look in books then walk through tunnel in nyc and all over world. Taking pics saying i seen this one. I snapped this 1. We will live forever. We are a family of writers. No one is bigger than the Game. Fuck Street Art. Shout out to my mate Antony Eden Clark aka Aone Tdt Tds Rest in Peace brother. Final word. Piece by Peace or Piece by War.
Paint Louis was banned? As far as I know, just b/c the festival didn't happen every year, the wall was still legal to paint anytime. I remember painting that wall right beneath Saber's massive older piece. It was under the "A" - but you could only see the top portion of a few of those older pieces. Everything on the ground level had been painted over at least a few thousand times. If I remember correctly, AWR (Saber, Revok, Ewok & I think Sever, maybe others too) came & did those huge pieces in '98, during the first "Paint Louis" - But I hit it in like 2011 or so, just driving through. Not during an event or anything. I missed the opportunity to paint it during a jam a few yrs back w/ LD & many other homies, due to serious health problems... but it's still getting painted! It's the biggest legal wall I've ever seen!! As far as I know, people paint it every day! Only about 5 hours away, in Louisville, KY, where I lived for a few years, they tried to make an area a "Legal Wall"... It didn't even last a year! I'm thinking this was in '07. All of the near-by businesses complained b/c it wasn't staying contained to that area... it spread out, as is always does... That city has been getting hit hard for years. For those who don't know... Some of the dopest writers in the US have come from the Ville. So many freight legends, as well as straight heavy hitters that paint it all!! It's nice to see there are so many heaven spots that are hit-up, many are nearly a decade old now & most were done by 2Buck (RIP)... When I first lived in that area, in '03, hardly any heavens were painted. Now it's a whole different story! Like St. Louis, when they said they didn't see much graffiti... HA!!! Now it's completely crushed!! The buff is pretty bad these days in both cities, especially on the highways. Shit doesn't run long, often not even a day! It hasn't stopped dedicated writers though, not anywhere! It's wild to see all the new cats, just crushin' it!! I'm seeing new names every day it seems... Makes me feel old!
somehow i never heard about this documentary until a few minutes ago. regardless, i happened to be living in saint louis when paint louis happened, i remember talking to saber while he was doing that piece. weird to have that moment in time referred to years later. yeah, they shut down paint louis pretty quickly when the writers all hit the town. it's kind of funny, you know they're going to do that and you know it's going to be shut down, ha. could i have been the only one to realize that in advance?
It's not banned. The 2024 event was just a few weeks ago. Although I did hear a lot about complaints from local businesses who hate the event. Because obviously their walls & storefront get crushed every year haha. From what i heard the organizers even banned some pretty well-known writers from returning to the event, all because they did a few throwies on a not-so-legal wall.
True Kingz ever!!!! MUch Love all these Legands. This new Generation Dosent got shit on the True Kingz. ~Denver Colorado! SKOPER94 TN1 Free all my brothers in the Jam!!!!!
Awe man I’m gonna get out and do a job ASAP, I was waiting to find someone to pay me for it but shit man, I’ll just find a nice hiding place to bring my work to the streets
At 7:07 into the documentary, Fargo states that “it is bullshit that hip hop spawned graffiti, that it was around long before hip hop”. No shit Sherlock. No one claims that hip hop created graffiti. Some people are constantly closed/minded as they recreate history. Graffiti is the first element of hip hop, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t created by hip hop. It’s like saying deejaying was created by hip hop, it’s ludicrous. But it is a part of hip hop. Fargo is an old schooler for sure, but his statement was ignorant and erroneous.
No he's saying graffiti was its own thing that was around before hip-hop not part of it and the media just lumped everything (graffiti, breakdancing, etc) together did you listen to what he actually said. I heard other old school graffiti writers say the same shit
This documentary has some serious errors. Raven, at 32:24 into the video, states that a white academic dude invented the term hip hop and the concept of hip hop (Steven Hager in his book “Hip Hop”. And Raven is in the University of Hip Hop? Where this dude come from? We all know Keith Cowboy created that term, and the culture was being formed in the Bronx. To say some white reporter and author created hip hop culture is beyond fucking stupid.
What Raven and the other people I interviewed are describing is how the term "Hip Hop" evolved to be used as the name of a cultural movement. No one here is contesting that Keith Cowboy and others were using the phrase "hip hop" in raps, but the term only evolved to be widely used to refer to graffiti, rapping, breaking, and djing when Afrika Bambaataa told Hager that the culture was called "hip hop" and then Hager popularized it through his article in the Village Voice. Multiple sources indicate that Bambaataa was the first to use the term in that way.
KING JEWEL, N.Y.C. AA ,BZ,CZ, 1Z,175,145,DYCMEN YARDS LAY UPS GOAST YARDS, YOU WEREN'T THERE, I WAS,IM GLAD YOU LOVE OUR ART,CONTRIBUTE DON'T DOWNRATE ORIGINAL KINGS AND THE WRITTERS BEFORE US.
GRAFFITTI STATYED IN PHILLY (1967) (CORNBREAD) it came out of the prior motorcycle gangs dat used paint to mark they territory for gang purposes.. Ny is the biggest MEDIA CAPITAL so they get all the attention.. but Graffitti STARTED IN PHILADELPHIA , PA..... also, the BEST "TAGGING HANDS" are in Philly....... Home of the "WICKED" style, And "TOP TO BOTTOMS".....FACTS
Who told that lie to Mark Bodé that his father influenced NYC subway writing, graffiti? No connection between graffiti and Hip Hop. At least for graffiti, it had existed on it's own starting in the late 1960s and kids of that time listening to The Rolling Stones, Sly & The Family Stone and so on and whatever artists of that time. Graffiti is NOT Hip Hop.
UK writers in the know, who's that like, on about seen like, painting at night like? Kelzo? Carl 123 Fista? Sounds like the man mist 1 like but it's not
@@Miltonnewyork Milton's a poet and he just don't know it. P.s it's Jim,slim, and they whack rap verse is prob the truest thing on this documentary, I heard it and was blown away
Fargo also states that hip hop did not create breakdancing? WTF??? Either Fargo was affected by the 1980’s crack epidemic or he huffed to much paint that gave him mental retardation. Breakdancers are called B-Boys, which is an abbreviated form of Break Boys. It is a direct correlation to the early hip hop deejays creating ‘scratching’, i.e. break beats on Records, otherwise known as the ‘get down’. Fargo needs to quit huffing, and start reading history books.
Been A writer since 1994. And JAone was up all over the city then and still bombing in 2020. Sane, ve, kez5, omni, R.I.P.
Oh yeah man JA went hard
Started in ‘77 , quit in ‘84. Bronx born .
My favorite thing about Beat Street is that it was filmed during the Winter and it captured the fashion especially sheep skin coats, the shell Addis’s and what it also captured was our rooms all looked that,
Beat street was PuMA. Not adidas. Puma track suits.
Krush Groove was all about Adidas. Hence the song, MY ADIDAS, by Run DMC
I love Graff. I love the smell of the paint. The sound of the marble. All of it
SO MUCH THANKS 4 THIS VIDEO AND GOOD BLEDS 2 ALL .
Seeing us perform and paint 25 years ago is amazing! Thank you for this.
I wish more people, especially writers (obviously), knew their history!
Many of the new generation of writers coming up, have no clue about the history of graffiti.
I'm happy to see a solid documentary with many of the 1st train writers, the style originators, stating as a matter of fact, that "modern day" Graffiti was being done well before "Hip-Hop" was born! People like Cornbread started in the late 60's!
Cholo-Writing in the west coast & south west, started long before that! Even before the invention of Spray Paint in 1949.
So many of the older writers didn't even listen to Hip-Hop when it started being produced.
Plenty of today's writers don't listen to Hip-Hop!
It was appropriated & packaged into something that was easy to market!
I love Graff, I love Hip-Hop, Djing, Breaking, absolutely! I'm also into tons of other genres of music!
That's what I'm saying. I'm a toy, can't say what I write government name lol. But no one respects your a toy going in stages mine was as basic as takis slowly learning to do more style after I got lined by someone I like and yer now my rival so called king in my area even though I'm up more lol rivalry sometimes it's a good thing. Once the graffiti bug bite there's no going back.
Watching this was a really informative and fun experience.
Thank you Peter, for making and uploading this film!
Graffiti absolutely is a part of hip hop culture what people have wrong is that in actual fact graffiti helped influence and create hip hop, not the other way round.
Tracey on art dealers / galleries. Best honest description of them. Thanks once again Michael.
been interviewed on a friend's radio show. just mentioned your docu. coz it's dope !!
Love you man - and your rap at 24:19 is dope!
What a dope way to start my rainy day, thanks for posting this 🤙🏾 Saludos to all them Graff heads from Playa Del Carmen 🇲🇽 Cheers🍻
If It doesn’t make Cnotes it doesn’t make Sense !
Dope movie! Thanks for uploading!
Chancellor 1
This is a nice film 👳 all these nice colours and peices sprayed around the city 🎦 . How they improved all these landscapes !
I wish everyone who paints watches this and learns the real history
Thank you, Peter❤
Grew up in the Graffiti scene in the 80s Graffiti was never part of the Rap scene, its a fact, NYC was divided. It wasn't until it was marketed that all 3 were combined.
Incredible! Didn`t know rapping came after graffiti.. i am bron in 1986 tho
Nothing will ever compare to the nyc Graff scene to me
For me too and Philly, my 2nd home
love this
Being a bomber from Newark, NJ. I hated the fact we were always in the shadow of NYC in the 80's and we finally started to slip out of it by the 1994 and some of us went world wide But we had crazy fucking styles that only New Jersey writers did and now they been bit all over the world but Newark Wild Style could never be replicated unless you from here. And that style is still special to me, like nobody can ever take that from us! ✌️
Zew1 FR/OUT/SGK/666
Newark, NJ
No doubt, I definitely took notice first time I came across it in Crazy Kings magazine and the ''Wrong Side of the Tracks' video. I'm from the Midwest btw. Props to Newark, crazy sick styles indeed!
Rock in Insane Productions DONDI We Miss YOU.
This is a nice film 👳 all these artists have been livin the life and improving all these places with all the great colours and peices everywhere 🎦
I started writing in Miami in 06-07 when MSG was really blowing up! Now those dudes have all three county’s covered from Dade to Palm Beach county.
Muy buen documental.
I think Peter needs to get me in his documentary of Brooklyn writers IM JN and have a lot of history would like to do an interview about my story from toy to graffiti vandal to legend .
UAA representing, good to hear from you again Peter.
The REAL DJ Fruit Loops loved hanging with UAA way back in the day!
We still around :)
Nice one my man !!! we need the french subtitles version !!! peace out and happy new year in advance !
R.I.P TRACY 168👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽GRATEFUL TO EVERY WRITER WHO PAVED THE WAY...ALL THE ORIGINAL WRITERS...TOO MANY TO MENTION!
What music is on 22:39? Anyone know?
This is a track by Cousin Cole
New York New York Big City of Dreams. Block BUSTER FOREVER, Respect COMETS Bubbles Letters FOR L. I. F. E , TAKI 187 BG 183 TRUE KINGZ BLADE , ZEPHYR, and ALL and EVERY WRITER in N. Y. C. Never STOP.
Style Wars has nothing on this hidden gem. Can't believe this is my first time seeing this documentary.
Beatbox is an element too
TRACY168 Wild Style woo woo. SEI. M.C.V. W.S. 238ST. 2020 STILL GOING.
Brings me back to the nineties 👍🏾🙌🏽 Hip hop movement back then was dope The vibes the people and the passion
RIP SESK/ TIE ONE SF KING
40
I have problems in school for writing KBP with permanent marker on toilet doors lmao xd
Tssss love it.
정확한 자막! correct subtitles 👏🏾✨
How is this definitive?
RIP DOOLEY CT LEGEND
You cannot dis beat street as package product, one best elements of Beat Street is that it takes place during the winter, lep wearing his sheep skin, we would go bombing on Christmas because we had the yarn to ourselves, I had kid capri in my class in 1981,
Oh yeah, I love Beat Street. So many great moments in that movie, including the legendary Christmas Rap
IN 1994, JSON , COMIT WERE STILL UP BACK THEN . NOW IT'S ALL THESE WRITERS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN STREETS AND HIGHWAYS WERE BOMBED. IT ALL STARTED GETTING CLEAN 1995.
Man, been writing since 2003, Ja is a god, Sane, Smith kez5, DG RIY,RIP
you like you in-love, when you meet Ja kiss his feet.
👍🏾
More than 20 years
49:44
props from sweden peeps.
Stay High got me there. Man wants to sell a few paintings. Goodness rest his Soul. I have some great stuff from Nyc but StayHigh149 should / could/ will be up there with the Finest of Fine Art!!! In 200 years people will look in books then walk through tunnel in nyc and all over world. Taking pics saying i seen this one. I snapped this 1. We will live forever. We are a family of writers. No one is bigger than the Game. Fuck Street Art. Shout out to my mate Antony Eden Clark aka Aone Tdt Tds Rest in Peace brother. Final word.
Piece by Peace or Piece by War.
14.00 whats that song
Another Cousin Cole original beat.
@@PeterGerard name of the tune
@@soloist9495 I don't believe any of the music cues had names, and a separate soundtrack was never released... Maybe something we should consider...
Paint Louis was banned? As far as I know, just b/c the festival didn't happen every year, the wall was still legal to paint anytime.
I remember painting that wall right beneath Saber's massive older piece. It was under the "A" - but you could only see the top portion of a few of those older pieces. Everything on the ground level had been painted over at least a few thousand times.
If I remember correctly, AWR (Saber, Revok, Ewok & I think Sever, maybe others too) came & did those huge pieces in '98, during the first "Paint Louis" - But I hit it in like 2011 or so, just driving through. Not during an event or anything.
I missed the opportunity to paint it during a jam a few yrs back w/ LD & many other homies, due to serious health problems... but it's still getting painted! It's the biggest legal wall I've ever seen!!
As far as I know, people paint it every day!
Only about 5 hours away, in Louisville, KY, where I lived for a few years, they tried to make an area a "Legal Wall"...
It didn't even last a year! I'm thinking this was in '07.
All of the near-by businesses complained b/c it wasn't staying contained to that area... it spread out, as is always does...
That city has been getting hit hard for years. For those who don't know... Some of the dopest writers in the US have come from the Ville. So many freight legends, as well as straight heavy hitters that paint it all!!
It's nice to see there are so many heaven spots that are hit-up, many are nearly a decade old now & most were done by 2Buck (RIP)... When I first lived in that area, in '03, hardly any heavens were painted. Now it's a whole different story!
Like St. Louis, when they said they didn't see much graffiti... HA!!! Now it's completely crushed!!
The buff is pretty bad these days in both cities, especially on the highways. Shit doesn't run long, often not even a day!
It hasn't stopped dedicated writers though, not anywhere! It's wild to see all the new cats, just crushin' it!! I'm seeing new names every day it seems...
Makes me feel old!
somehow i never heard about this documentary until a few minutes ago. regardless, i happened to be living in saint louis when paint louis happened, i remember talking to saber while he was doing that piece. weird to have that moment in time referred to years later. yeah, they shut down paint louis pretty quickly when the writers all hit the town. it's kind of funny, you know they're going to do that and you know it's going to be shut down, ha. could i have been the only one to realize that in advance?
It's not banned. The 2024 event was just a few weeks ago. Although I did hear a lot about complaints from local businesses who hate the event. Because obviously their walls & storefront get crushed every year haha.
From what i heard the organizers even banned some pretty well-known writers from returning to the event, all because they did a few throwies on a not-so-legal wall.
Seen UNO 👀
I know the history i was graffiti 20 years and i know more then them. Im a LEGEND. From 2006 two 2020. I done shit that they did not do
Were you from
Ay my boy im from California. West thinks different from the east. I go by MOES.
No cap
You got beef. Toy
Funny part @ 28:18
Everybody loves the real hip hop, let me hear you scream.
AZ-1 UA Wuz Here !!!
True Kingz ever!!!! MUch Love all these Legands. This new Generation Dosent got shit on the True Kingz. ~Denver Colorado! SKOPER94 TN1 Free all my brothers in the Jam!!!!!
Their tags are sloppy
Actually, cornbread was writing way before Taki Not the mention our ancestors were writing on caves hundreds and thousands of years before.
S
Awe man I’m gonna get out and do a job ASAP, I was waiting to find someone to pay me for it but shit man, I’ll just find a nice hiding place to bring my work to the streets
RUSHDAZZLE
For example MPC wore steel toe boots and listened to Iron Maiden
Raven ENDZ the Film GREAT
STAY HIGH 149 Keep that Graph Script.
So Cool, buy a tshirt
That’s fool who tried drying his own throw up is a big toy.
Do your reaserch of graffiti.
Do they even know what means what
KRYLON and Stock Tips
Taki 183..did not start Modern Graff
At 7:07 into the documentary, Fargo states that “it is bullshit that hip hop spawned graffiti, that it was around long before hip hop”.
No shit Sherlock. No one claims that hip hop created graffiti. Some people are constantly closed/minded as they recreate history.
Graffiti is the first element of hip hop, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t created by hip hop.
It’s like saying deejaying was created by hip hop, it’s ludicrous. But it is a part of hip hop.
Fargo is an old schooler for sure, but his statement was ignorant and erroneous.
No he's saying graffiti was its own thing that was around before hip-hop not part of it and the media just lumped everything (graffiti, breakdancing, etc) together did you listen to what he actually said. I heard other old school graffiti writers say the same shit
And how can you say people are rewriting history when that's someone that was part of the original scene making that statement
Yall never did Queens,
Ses one, Clark , Lady Pink And Futura Styles never D. I. E
This documentary has some serious errors.
Raven, at 32:24 into the video, states that a white academic dude invented the term hip hop and the concept of hip hop (Steven Hager in his book “Hip Hop”. And Raven is in the University of Hip Hop? Where this dude come from?
We all know Keith Cowboy created that term, and the culture was being formed in the Bronx.
To say some white reporter and author created hip hop culture is beyond fucking stupid.
What Raven and the other people I interviewed are describing is how the term "Hip Hop" evolved to be used as the name of a cultural movement. No one here is contesting that Keith Cowboy and others were using the phrase "hip hop" in raps, but the term only evolved to be widely used to refer to graffiti, rapping, breaking, and djing when Afrika Bambaataa told Hager that the culture was called "hip hop" and then Hager popularized it through his article in the Village Voice. Multiple sources indicate that Bambaataa was the first to use the term in that way.
KING JEWEL, N.Y.C. AA ,BZ,CZ, 1Z,175,145,DYCMEN YARDS LAY UPS GOAST YARDS, YOU WEREN'T THERE, I WAS,IM GLAD YOU LOVE OUR ART,CONTRIBUTE DON'T DOWNRATE ORIGINAL KINGS AND THE WRITTERS BEFORE US.
Bambaataa was the first to sample little boys bootys
And u was the first one he sampled
Look it ESPO. KING ing N. Y. C.
GRAFFITTI STATYED IN PHILLY (1967) (CORNBREAD)
it came out of the prior motorcycle gangs dat used paint to mark they territory for gang purposes..
Ny is the biggest MEDIA CAPITAL so they get all the attention..
but Graffitti STARTED IN PHILADELPHIA , PA.....
also, the BEST "TAGGING HANDS" are in Philly....... Home of the "WICKED" style,
And "TOP TO BOTTOMS".....FACTS
1800 BUBBLE
I khow the histoy better.
Who told that lie to Mark Bodé that his father influenced NYC subway writing, graffiti?
No connection between graffiti and Hip Hop. At least for graffiti, it had existed on it's own starting in the late 1960s and kids of that time listening to The Rolling Stones, Sly & The Family Stone and so on and whatever artists of that time.
Graffiti is NOT Hip Hop.
@@robertb9902 Nope.
UK writers in the know, who's that like, on about seen like, painting at night like? Kelzo? Carl 123 Fista? Sounds like the man mist 1 like but it's not
WHEN I SEE THIS THING ...I UNDERSTAND IM BEING USED , SO THEY COULD REWRITE HISTORY ! THE END ...NEXT !!! - TRACY 168 ' WILD STYLE ' !
Truth is absolute , and your can't be denied.
38:15 crackhead artist
Hip hop is not part of graffiti and break dance they say it is but is not
Coke One TKP-MPC-OTB-BBS-TED ETC,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
49:45 whack rap alert! !
Wack comment Milton
@@jimbobraidzy0ne275 The truth is never whack, remember that , Jack.
@@Miltonnewyork Milton's a poet and he just don't know it. P.s it's Jim,slim, and they whack rap verse is prob the truest thing on this documentary, I heard it and was blown away
It was actually pretty dope. I think it's just your personal taste that's wack.
Fargo also states that hip hop did not create breakdancing? WTF???
Either Fargo was affected by the 1980’s crack epidemic or he huffed to much paint that gave him mental retardation.
Breakdancers are called B-Boys, which is an abbreviated form of Break Boys. It is a direct correlation to the early hip hop deejays creating ‘scratching’, i.e. break beats on Records, otherwise known as the ‘get down’.
Fargo needs to quit huffing, and start reading history books.
....NOT ACCURATE '
Losers.