I gotta assume that guy was a toxic cod type player that thought that he could call out the devs into a 1v1 against him or something when it is literally the case that we have hundreds possibly thousands of pvp games that already exist that have tones of players and it’s also the fact that I’ve been saying for a few years that PvP is pointless because it’s side content for after your done with game not something you should be putting hundreds of hours into just to possibly waste all that time and effort when your no longer able to play at your best after like 10 years let’s say I mean I’ve seen people genuinely say that they want rockstar to make it to where they can go into other players apartments in gta and kill them in their own property’s and steal their vehicles and their money like I even had one guy get genuinely mad at me because I didn’t want to turn everything into a competition I was amazing at PvP back in black ops 2 but nowadays I’m above average at best I honestly could go on and on but you probably get the idea lol
You "no PvP equals dead game" folks really dont get it. A lack of PvP is a feature. We want no PvP. We will continue to play the game because it has great gameplay and a dynamic campaign. We will support this game BECAUSE it's got a solid idea of what it wants to be and isn't wasting effort on stuff that doesn't matter to the people who want this specific kind of experience.
Idk they're dumb Ig Miss the idea of the game ig It's already hard enough to deal with 2 factions especially eith capturing automaton sectors Now they wanna waste dealing with each other trying to prove something ig it's a pve game at foremost so adding pvp aspect to it will jist make it more difficult especially with balancing lol
It's because there are a LOT of players that absolutely do not enjoy fighting any game against A.I. for them the only and ultimate challenge is fighting against human players to make sure they enjoy the game for 5+ years, instead of just a few months before moving on. I've met a few, tried to convince them otherwise, didn't stick. In their eyes, every game without PvP is boring, predictable and repetitive.
The players are already loosing so much ground to the automatons. Why would they want players wasting time battling each other, while the automatons close in to super earth?
@@mattnichols3209 I think it's just over. The game self deletes and your computer/PlayStation explodes killing you and burning your house down for your failure.
@@Thepvpguy128not entirely, I’m pretty PvP leaned in gaming yet I think pve is a nice change, Good on the devs imo. Most PvP communities are annoying and whine for nerfs or buffs 24/7
@@uh0p I agree with that. That's the problem that I do see in p v p is developer's Nerf and buff things that don't need to be done. Lots of times they like to do that for the casuals.
That comment need a fresh cup of Liber-tea and after you and I will talk about we can bring even more Democracy, Keep diving give them hell for Super Earth
As if lethal company and palworld that just came out before have pvp or deep rock galactic which is the most similar game to this still extremely popular lol
@@ghostrunner2138 Mf how does Lethal Company have PvP??? There’s only friendly fire dmg. Palworlds is different and has practically died with no more media coverage
Something like the division 2 raids where it's multiple teams working together towards difficult objectives would be nice, might be the best way to bring back bossfights from helldivers 1
Comparing to battles of the original Helldivers, I hope to see a battle of 2 groups of Helldivers getting tossed into the same map (slightly larger maybe) with one of the older bosses to fight .... I saw a boss fight last 15 minutes in the original game imagine that here, and with 2 squads together
That would be really cool! They could also add a sort of Naval combat system between the factions (controlled by Joel) to determine what planets are able to be landed on. This could also be used to have naval battles using helldivers as boarders and fighting automatons onboard their ships like in Battlefrotnt 2 (the old one).
I would want proxim chat for intersquad comms. Like imagine having your own tasks for your mission and meeting someone from another squad and having to explain to your team via ingame squad vc on what the other squad needs to do.
No PvP is what makes this game so good. This is the most wholesome gaming community I've witnessed in a long time, and it's fucking great. Keep liberating! ✊
THANK FUCK, adding a pvp gamemode at surface level wouldnt take much away from the game but it defeats the purpose of what the game is about and ruins the sentiment of the community they have mustered.
Not only that, it adds an unparalleled level of toxicity and elitism into every game it's implemented in, and PvE ALWAYS ends up getting screwed over by PvP because "Wah wah, balance, wah wah stagnant meta, wah wah demand more focus"
Good, I used to play destiny 2 religiously and the PvP element ruins the core PvE experience. Now I'm a helldiver fanatic. Only been playing 4 days and I'm obsessed
It's such a breath of fresh air, most games that have some aspect of PVE eventually fall victim to the PVP cycle and then end up having a toxic portion of the community and then it just ends up spilling over to other aspects making the game less appealing to newcomers
@@marcoflores2656 100 percent man. Helldivers has really outdone itself, especially for such a small developer. They went above and beyond, the community is great the Devs are great. Hopefully they maintain this and don't fall into the same cycles that bigger titles have already done
I hate anything PVP that also has PC players in it. Fucking hate how crossplay made PC players able to play with console players. And SO MANY share that same sentiment. The pure advantages PC has only console is absolutely absurd and not to mention the nonstop hacks and cheats that come with it.
@@darrellgainer6966same here, I played destiny 1 since beta as well, but I wouldn’t say pvp is the staple of it. It’s more like the raids imo. But the nerfs the guns in d1 heck even d2 received just because of pvp alone is ridiculous in destiny.
Thank God. Honestly I feel like there's a really frustrating trend where PvP is slapped on as a substitute for good game content. I love this Dev team so much.
I think they should introduce a few time things where they should have a huge number of enemies and a huge number of Helldivers to fight. Like a final stand before liberating a planet. Do you guys think that should happen or no.
He really said, "If you don't like what we are offering, go play another game." I really hope Helldivers 2 marks a change in the industry, a return to studios making games that cater to specific audiences, rather than trying to be all things to all players.
My friends and I play a game where we independently go to corners of the map on a planet with ion storms and then on go, hunt each other down. The ion storms give some cover for repositioning and the orbital bombardments are great for area denial
I want a gamemode where its like 20 Helldivers all with 1 Life fighting hoards and hoards of enemies for like a half hour and in the end only a few remain, like Halo’s Firefight
I think that's a good idea, you can really feel the camaraderie even with randoms. It really feels like you're part of a bigger team and world, everyone's fighting for the cause its awesome
Pvp is made to ruin games that pvp addicts beat off by shiting on people in any game, even ones where you're meant to support your teammates, not destroy them, PvE made difficult enough even for hardened players is a good game, even fun as well and movie-like at all times
They probably have mics but are in PS5 party chat, or Discord etc on PC. I've played full 1.5 hour campaigns in silence only for a dude to randomly go "bunker here" after 1.3 hours of no talk just pings.
PvP = toxicity, so the CEO recommends the pvpToxicBro to seek said toxicity in the bottomless pit of toxic sludge that Tarkov offers. Legendary way to answer.
@@Thepvpguy128To be honest, yes. If someone's only goal is to cause problems and kill people, then yes. Everyone gets an opportunity to explain themselves or to stop but if they don't then yeah, they get kicked and made to go do it elsewhere. Now if it's a case of everyone just messing around and everyone is okay with it then no, they won't get kicked cause everyone agreed. This is done with friends though as it can be stopped when needed easier that way.
@@ashenmutant1836 You know what's funny to me? These are the same people that cried about coop as well because they like single player only but When the CEO came out and talked about toxicity in pvp Then they jumped all over his nuts and now they love co op. Lol
@@Thepvpguy128 Never heard anyone crying about it being coop, only the small minority of people complaining about there being no pvp. Speaking of, do you even play the game or are you one of those "I don't play the game but I'll still get upset at it" people? Not ragging or anything, just genuinely curious.
What a bad take you guys have. You guys can't just simply enjoy what the game has to offer and always have to whine that everything has to be about competition with each other and not just working together. You guys are the prime examples of why they won't add PvP And as the guy said Just play tarkov if that's what you're looking for
@@marcoflores2656not a pc player. There is only 2 Extraction shooters on Consoles that are pvp. You guys are the ones that whine every time they come out with a p v p game because it doesn't have a single player. It's a fact co-op and mostly single player games People play It for a week. They beat it and then they are done with it. Most of your popular games that are most watched on twitch are pvp.
I've been saying this for years. I would absolutely rather pit my wits against a team of developers who want me to have FUN and KEEP PLAYING rather than some tryhard asshole who wants to make me ragequit.
I agree. This is a dedicated co-op squad shooter. It's the first multiplayer game ive played in over three years and the community is great! I was afraid of griefers etc, but almost all lobbies and drop-ins have been class acts
I'm so glad the CEO is standing firm on this. You partially left out the best part of the comment he was replying to, which is that the original commenter claimed not only that Arrowhead was scared but also implied that PvP is some sort of rare occurrence in gaming and its common for games not to have it. Which is hilarious. PvP has games like Tarkov, Fortnite, PUBG, R6S, CS2, Overwatch, Halo, COD, Battlefield, Insurgency Sandstorm, Squad, and plenty of others I'm leaving out. PvE horde shooters have Payday, Killing Floor, Left For Dead, and a few game modes in Insurgency Sandstorm and R6S. Yeah no, I'm glad there is finally a game for people like me again who don't want to play some sweatfest battle royale or PvP match but instead just chill slaughtering hordes of bots and buts.
@miguelzim6259 Yup it really pissed me off that some people are still attacking him and after all evidence had lay out of him being innocent all this time.
The only way can thinkof having some sort of pvp is as an rts style version of helldivers 1 as a mini game on your ship so you can play with your friends or an npc on your ship
Also, a thing about PvP that ruins so many good games is that players complain a lot when they consistently die to inevitable meta weapons. The weapons then get nerfed to the point of being entirely useless. I saw it in every FromSoft title from Demons souls to elden ring, and in Destiny 1 as well as Destiny 2. The last thing Super Citizens need are weaker guns.
Agree. It would be a balancing nightmare on the same Level as overwatch. Too much $hit, too hard to balance it all, especially considering most of the weapons aren't made for pvp.
People who want pvp in that game altho we’re already sort of losing ground to the bugs and more of the automatons are losers i say huge W to the helldivers devs they know what people really want a fun community.
I actually just had a match where the pelican glitched out and was stuck hovering like ~50' in the air, meaning we couldn't get in. We collectively decided to start killing each other to burn reinforcements, since we wouldn't have been able to extract. It was honestly pretty fun, but I totally agree that a pvp mode could add some toxicity. It's fun when it isn't competitive, but ince you add that competitive aspect, it can start to get frustrating.
@@Trancer006 if you would stop acting like a child and except not everything needs pvp we’d be fine genes exist for a variety of players and shouldn’t exist just to please you. You want a pvp game go play a pvp game hell divers is pve and going to stay that way. If I want to play a pvp game I’ll go play Halo or cod or hell let loose or any of the other thousands of pvp games. You literally have proven them right and given them every justification for the devs not to put pvp in the game all because you can’t except other gamers want other things besides what you want.
@@knightblade0188 Bro you spell like a 12yo and are telling me to grow up lol. Again, Im okay with BOTH game modes co-existing together that cater to MORE gamers. You and your buddies are the ones that dictate what we can or cant play, you don’t want an additional separate game mode because you don’t like it lmao. You have proven more than enough which side is toxic here. If you want singleplayer or co-op go play CoD, it has both options. We dont need another game at all!!
Honestly, there's right now bigger issues with Helldivers. There's just too many bugs. The automatons also need a rework with things like rocket raiders and rocket devestators needing nerfs. Still fucking love the game.
lol yeah thay sounds dope, i dont get why people are hating on it 😂 this shit actually has a fun moveset unlikd most PVP games, id just like option to fight my friends
@TheIncredabad69 the reason it works is crazy. Camping is dealt with by the ai pushing you, exposing you making you reposition and gives others the opportunity to take a hit but also exposing themselves in the process. It's a loop that's actually pretty good
I think having like a custom server thing would be cool for people who want to do pvp like if they mess with the settings or something, but they already have their hands full with so much probably
Im genuinely thrilled its not pvp in so wick of every game being a battleground or pvp style fame its refreshing to get a game that requires co-op from players.
In response to this they should add a feature where if you drop on the same planet as another player group, there's a chance your missions will "cross paths" with group localized loot like samples, but shared enemies and strategems
They should add something like corruption were something takes over your body and your teamate has to kill you, I could see so many heartbreaking moments from this
that's a good point actually, most people who can afford helldivers 2 already have CoD, battlefield or any other PvP games if they want PvP they can play those games.
Honestly this is a smart move, everyone has solidarity fighting for the same goal, working together, in pvp you are basically encouraged to rage at other people
I mean... as far as "PVP", I dont want to have a direct fight. But I do think that this game should look at Planetside 2's outfit system to make guilds. For context while PS2 is a PVP game, it has guilds called outfits. Outfits as they push the front lines can claim zones to generate resources for them to use later. You claim zones for being high performing group and opting for it. I would like HD2 to add some of this, in terms of seeing outfit wide contribution to planets (that may let them place an outfit flag on them). Maybe some time trial leaderboards for in outfit and global groups and so on.
Imagine multiple squads doing the same mission each having to call in there own extract. Maybe some giant extraction ship that can extract 8 players at once. Imagine the chaos 😂
PvP? Hell no, we need bigger squad sizes and more enemies.
We need PVE planetside scale battles
Scheduled 100 players vs hordeMAX. Every month. Would be fire.
@@Yaldforsvar holy i need that
i want arma 3 but in helldivers
@@frankpurvis9189Planetside 1 & 2 is such a good game. If they can make it like that then that’s even more better, in my opinion.
@@Stardustmiku never had a chance to play them but i want to hope a third comes out at some point.
Good. PVP is not needed everywhere.
Not quite right. If we got new Cheese, im glad we got a Reallife pvp. I would single handly get empty handed without.
Arrowhead : no pvp
Traitors to the cause : fine we shall slaughter all helldivers and cause our own faction
Sounds like you just trash and got a skill issue
@@silverbloodborne9495 Traitors won't stand a chance, we are more and they are less, FOR DEMOCRACY!!!
As a longtime player of borderlands and current helldiver I agree . Pvp isn't needed .
Lol someone called the CEO scared and his response was “go play another game, we have democracy to spread here”
Democracy as no room for communist sympathizers
@@sethjenson8219Super Earth approves of this message
Love the CEO for this one, no pvp, telling "Meta" users to go suck it, fun vibes only people can bring whatever they want that works for them/ is fun.
I gotta assume that guy was a toxic cod type player that thought that he could call out the devs into a 1v1 against him or something when it is literally the case that we have hundreds possibly thousands of pvp games that already exist that have tones of players and it’s also the fact that I’ve been saying for a few years that PvP is pointless because it’s side content for after your done with game not something you should be putting hundreds of hours into just to possibly waste all that time and effort when your no longer able to play at your best after like 10 years let’s say I mean I’ve seen people genuinely say that they want rockstar to make it to where they can go into other players apartments in gta and kill them in their own property’s and steal their vehicles and their money like I even had one guy get genuinely mad at me because I didn’t want to turn everything into a competition I was amazing at PvP back in black ops 2 but nowadays I’m above average at best I honestly could go on and on but you probably get the idea lol
Absolute legend
You "no PvP equals dead game" folks really dont get it. A lack of PvP is a feature. We want no PvP. We will continue to play the game because it has great gameplay and a dynamic campaign. We will support this game BECAUSE it's got a solid idea of what it wants to be and isn't wasting effort on stuff that doesn't matter to the people who want this specific kind of experience.
Agreed. DRG is approaching year 6 and that game is also PvE with team spirit aesthetics.
Yeah yeah.. come back to this comment and lets see if u play this garbage in 1 year from now
@Nimyra someone's angry that a game they don't like is popular
@@Erumyr"LeTs AdD pVp To A pVe GaMe!" Don't be such a knob ya git!😂😂😂😂
@@Erumyrwon't be playing any pvp game already ruined by big corps 😭
so... people are upset that an exclusively pve game's devs... dont want to add pvp
Idk they're dumb
Ig
Miss the idea of the game ig
It's already hard enough to deal with 2 factions especially eith capturing automaton sectors
Now they wanna waste dealing with each other trying to prove something ig it's a pve game at foremost so adding pvp aspect to it will jist make it more difficult especially with balancing lol
HD2 is the fourth game of the AH studio which has friendly fire always on. All five of their games are absolutem bangers to me.
It's because there are a LOT of players that absolutely do not enjoy fighting any game against A.I. for them the only and ultimate challenge is fighting against human players to make sure they enjoy the game for 5+ years, instead of just a few months before moving on. I've met a few, tried to convince them otherwise, didn't stick. In their eyes, every game without PvP is boring, predictable and repetitive.
@@douwe4254maybe they should work to helldive difficulty and then talk. And honestly, a lot of human players, can play worse than an AI.
Yeah, because they can't work in a team so they're relegated to wannabe sweats on cod
"A game for everyone is a game for no one." is the hardest moto of any game company.
The players are already loosing so much ground to the automatons. Why would they want players wasting time battling each other, while the automatons close in to super earth?
Maybe these are traitors of super earth who's survived or escaped like the coward they are
Not to mention the fascist bugs! We need to spread democracy and liber-tea to them!
I wonder what happens if they reach super earth? Do we have to buy a fresh copy of the game lol.
i would say slow and painful reconquedt in guerilla style@@mattnichols3209
@@mattnichols3209 I think it's just over. The game self deletes and your computer/PlayStation explodes killing you and burning your house down for your failure.
“I recommend that you give Tarkov a go” is absolutely wild
For real, bro really said "If you want your balls crushed so badly, there's a hydraulic press right over there."
I actually never heard a game called Tarkov
@@zeronime284 is the type of kick your the balls games
I'm buying the game now. I hate some of the people who want pvp in everything.
I’ll just teamkill you it’s much more fun
Because single player games are boring and they don't last long
@@YeknomGawss most of them that complained about it they just suck at pvp
@@Thepvpguy128not entirely, I’m pretty PvP leaned in gaming yet I think pve is a nice change, Good on the devs imo. Most PvP communities are annoying and whine for nerfs or buffs 24/7
@@uh0p I agree with that. That's the problem that I do see in p v p is developer's Nerf and buff things that don't need to be done. Lots of times they like to do that for the casuals.
PVP?!?!?! When we got people dying at Malevelon creek??!?!
“PvP? Nonesense my battle brother. Come, let us spread democracy to the rest of the Galaxy in the name of Super Earth 🌎 “
That comment need a fresh cup of Liber-tea and after you and I will talk about we can bring even more Democracy, Keep diving give them hell for Super Earth
DEMOCRACY!
DEMOCRACY!
DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE
DEMOCRACY!
I want 8 player raids or something rather than PvP. Having two squads working on a massive objective would be absolutely mental 😂
Plot twist: neither team realises the other is there until they make contact...
That be interesting. At first you arent sure if the nearby gunfire isnt just ambient noise. Till u see orbital fire fall from the sky.
@@Nodachi07 Or the obligatory "WHO DROPPED THIS MINEFIEL..."
@@TronTuborg reminds me of walking into a squadmates mine as i run from a charger 😅
@@TronTuborgThey’d have to code in proximity chat.
“No PVP will cause the game to die” *game has a peak player count of 430,000 players at one time*
As if lethal company and palworld that just came out before have pvp or deep rock galactic which is the most similar game to this still extremely popular lol
And that's just steam where it's been sold on PlayStation at a 1:1 ratio too
@@ghostrunner2138 Mf how does Lethal Company have PvP??? There’s only friendly fire dmg. Palworlds is different and has practically died with no more media coverage
Hell warframe has pvp but no one even bothers with it
Everyone just plays pve
No one cares for the pvp nor did the devs lol
And we're still losing. We need more boots on the Creek. Space robot 'Nam awaits your arrival.
I wanna see a multi squad mission, ie you gotta help a team extract, so you get two or more teams working together
Same like a massive raid against home worlds and stuff like that
Something like the division 2 raids where it's multiple teams working together towards difficult objectives would be nice, might be the best way to bring back bossfights from helldivers 1
Comparing to battles of the original Helldivers, I hope to see a battle of 2 groups of Helldivers getting tossed into the same map (slightly larger maybe) with one of the older bosses to fight .... I saw a boss fight last 15 minutes in the original game imagine that here, and with 2 squads together
That would be really cool! They could also add a sort of Naval combat system between the factions (controlled by Joel) to determine what planets are able to be landed on. This could also be used to have naval battles using helldivers as boarders and fighting automatons onboard their ships like in Battlefrotnt 2 (the old one).
I would want proxim chat for intersquad comms. Like imagine having your own tasks for your mission and meeting someone from another squad and having to explain to your team via ingame squad vc on what the other squad needs to do.
Yeah, and the bad people are rooted out pretty quick. You disrespect your team they'll leave you to the aliens pretty quick.
I respect them for holding their ground on this. We don’t need it
Exactly, EVERY DEVELOPER these days is a total Suck ups to idiots and money. I'm delighted to see actual game devs after so long.
WE AINT GOT TIME TO BE FIGHTING AMONGST OURSELVES! WE’RE ALL NEEDED ON THE BATTLEFIELD SOLDIERS!!
Enabling PVP is like enabling Murder Hobos in your RPG Tables
No PvP is what makes this game so good. This is the most wholesome gaming community I've witnessed in a long time, and it's fucking great.
Keep liberating! ✊
You meant PVE
@@ItsyourboyPenguinboyhe meant that the fact that there is no pvp makes the game good
never played a pure pve game with a bad community, and have never played a pvp game with a good community.
Amen brother
THANK FUCK, adding a pvp gamemode at surface level wouldnt take much away from the game but it defeats the purpose of what the game is about and ruins the sentiment of the community they have mustered.
Not only that, it adds an unparalleled level of toxicity and elitism into every game it's implemented in, and PvE ALWAYS ends up getting screwed over by PvP because "Wah wah, balance, wah wah stagnant meta, wah wah demand more focus"
Good, I used to play destiny 2 religiously and the PvP element ruins the core PvE experience. Now I'm a helldiver fanatic. Only been playing 4 days and I'm obsessed
It's such a breath of fresh air, most games that have some aspect of PVE eventually fall victim to the PVP cycle and then end up having a toxic portion of the community and then it just ends up spilling over to other aspects making the game less appealing to newcomers
@@marcoflores2656 100 percent man. Helldivers has really outdone itself, especially for such a small developer. They went above and beyond, the community is great the Devs are great. Hopefully they maintain this and don't fall into the same cycles that bigger titles have already done
Lol I’ve been playing since destiny 1 beta. PvP is and always will be a staple of destiny. I love pvp but helldivers needs to be pve only for sure.
I hate anything PVP that also has PC players in it. Fucking hate how crossplay made PC players able to play with console players. And SO MANY share that same sentiment. The pure advantages PC has only console is absolutely absurd and not to mention the nonstop hacks and cheats that come with it.
@@darrellgainer6966same here, I played destiny 1 since beta as well, but I wouldn’t say pvp is the staple of it. It’s more like the raids imo. But the nerfs the guns in d1 heck even d2 received just because of pvp alone is ridiculous in destiny.
Thank God. Honestly I feel like there's a really frustrating trend where PvP is slapped on as a substitute for good game content.
I love this Dev team so much.
This game keeps sounding better and better
I think they should introduce a few time things where they should have a huge number of enemies and a huge number of Helldivers to fight. Like a final stand before liberating a planet. Do you guys think that should happen or no.
Could be an event in the future
Definitely possible, especially for final battles for defeating a faction or Last Stand when Super Earth is under attack
Man, they told that one person was crying about no PVP 😂
He really said, "If you don't like what we are offering, go play another game." I really hope Helldivers 2 marks a change in the industry, a return to studios making games that cater to specific audiences, rather than trying to be all things to all players.
Yeah, thats what amazing about that studio. If you visit their site, you can see a slogan: "A game for everyone is a game for no one"
Having a huge event with 1 giant server and a massive map with LOTS OF HELLDIVERS, FIGHTING EVEN MOREEEE ENEMIES
Imagine an entire 32 player battalion against the bugs and the robots
My friends and I play a game where we independently go to corners of the map on a planet with ion storms and then on go, hunt each other down. The ion storms give some cover for repositioning and the orbital bombardments are great for area denial
Now one thing I would love to have added is a fireing range/testing mode. This way you can understand how to use certain pieces of tech.
"We're all fighting on the same side"
Robo Vietnam:
Good
Good
Good
I want a gamemode where its like 20 Helldivers all with 1 Life fighting hoards and hoards of enemies for like a half hour and in the end only a few remain, like Halo’s Firefight
I think that's a good idea, you can really feel the camaraderie even with randoms. It really feels like you're part of a bigger team and world, everyone's fighting for the cause its awesome
Pvp is made to ruin games that pvp addicts beat off by shiting on people in any game, even ones where you're meant to support your teammates, not destroy them, PvE made difficult enough even for hardened players is a good game, even fun as well and movie-like at all times
If helldivers 2 gets PvP the game's done for. It's all over
Thank you CEO. Now I'd actually be willing to buy it. Sick of all the PvP BS.
Most people I play with don’t even have mics and mine doesn’t work. Yet we all still share a common goal and a friendly relationship
Personally, I just don't use my mic due to bad experiences with (funnily enough) pvp games
They probably have mics but are in PS5 party chat, or Discord etc on PC.
I've played full 1.5 hour campaigns in silence only for a dude to randomly go "bunker here" after 1.3 hours of no talk just pings.
The premise of helldivers 2 is absolutely perfect and im excited for more
PvP = toxicity, so the CEO recommends the pvpToxicBro to seek said toxicity in the bottomless pit of toxic sludge that Tarkov offers. Legendary way to answer.
"Toxicity" What happens if your teammates starts acting toxic you guys trying to get rid of that too? 😂
@@Thepvpguy128To be honest, yes. If someone's only goal is to cause problems and kill people, then yes. Everyone gets an opportunity to explain themselves or to stop but if they don't then yeah, they get kicked and made to go do it elsewhere.
Now if it's a case of everyone just messing around and everyone is okay with it then no, they won't get kicked cause everyone agreed. This is done with friends though as it can be stopped when needed easier that way.
@@ashenmutant1836 You know what's funny to me? These are the same people that cried about coop as well because they like single player only but When the CEO came out and talked about toxicity in pvp Then they jumped all over his nuts and now they love co op. Lol
@@ashenmutant1836 h
@@Thepvpguy128 Never heard anyone crying about it being coop, only the small minority of people complaining about there being no pvp. Speaking of, do you even play the game or are you one of those "I don't play the game but I'll still get upset at it" people? Not ragging or anything, just genuinely curious.
Who needs PvP when you have friendly fire?
Yeah without p v p the game won't last long
That’s what I’m saying lol give the community more options
What a bad take you guys have. You guys can't just simply enjoy what the game has to offer and always have to whine that everything has to be about competition with each other and not just working together. You guys are the prime examples of why they won't add PvP
And as the guy said Just play tarkov if that's what you're looking for
@@marcoflores2656not a pc player. There is only 2 Extraction shooters on Consoles that are pvp. You guys are the ones that whine every time they come out with a p v p game because it doesn't have a single player. It's a fact co-op and mostly single player games People play It for a week. They beat it and then they are done with it. Most of your popular games that are most watched on twitch are pvp.
deep rock galactic:
Go play cod or fortnite🥴
That's actually awesome bringing people together through gaming we need 8 ppl squads though!
We need raids! Larger groups, bigger liberation impacts, and massive enemies!
I've been saying this for years.
I would absolutely rather pit my wits against a team of developers who want me to have FUN and KEEP PLAYING rather than some tryhard asshole who wants to make me ragequit.
"WE DON'T WANT THE TOXICITY FROM THE PVP ELEMENTS" ENABLES FRIENDLY FIRE
You get nothing out of killing and you just might make everyone mad enough to votekick you
I agree. This is a dedicated co-op squad shooter. It's the first multiplayer game ive played in over three years and the community is great! I was afraid of griefers etc, but almost all lobbies and drop-ins have been class acts
“We don’t need PVP, oh yeah btw Tarkov is cool”-Greatest devs ever
We already have PvP, its all of us against Joel
I'm so glad the CEO is standing firm on this. You partially left out the best part of the comment he was replying to, which is that the original commenter claimed not only that Arrowhead was scared but also implied that PvP is some sort of rare occurrence in gaming and its common for games not to have it. Which is hilarious.
PvP has games like Tarkov, Fortnite, PUBG, R6S, CS2, Overwatch, Halo, COD, Battlefield, Insurgency Sandstorm, Squad, and plenty of others I'm leaving out.
PvE horde shooters have Payday, Killing Floor, Left For Dead, and a few game modes in Insurgency Sandstorm and R6S.
Yeah no, I'm glad there is finally a game for people like me again who don't want to play some sweatfest battle royale or PvP match but instead just chill slaughtering hordes of bots and buts.
Not every game needs multiplayer just like not every game needs pvp
I love how he reccomends the one pvp game that will make you tear your eyeballs out in rage
Space battles with our super destroyers against automaton ships and terminid bile ships, that would be sick
We don't need pvp. We need vehicle strategies like cars, tanks, helicopters, etc
"Even when i leave. If they add pvp, ill come back, and start throwing hands onim the boardroom"
"We want everyone to be on the same side"
**Gantzthedemon has entered the chat**
He's a traitor
He has been proven innocent
@miguelzim6259 Yup it really pissed me off that some people are still attacking him and after all evidence had lay out of him being innocent all this time.
Ood call. I've never seen a community so united and supportive to the cause
The only way can thinkof having some sort of pvp is as an rts style version of helldivers 1 as a mini game on your ship so you can play with your friends or an npc on your ship
Also, a thing about PvP that ruins so many good games is that players complain a lot when they consistently die to inevitable meta weapons. The weapons then get nerfed to the point of being entirely useless. I saw it in every FromSoft title from Demons souls to elden ring, and in Destiny 1 as well as Destiny 2. The last thing Super Citizens need are weaker guns.
So they nerfed rivers of blood, and u still crying about it or what? Pvp in souls games its best things they created
@@Good-no1xu I never used Rivers of blood. I ran a strength/faith build
Agree. It would be a balancing nightmare on the same Level as overwatch. Too much $hit, too hard to balance it all, especially considering most of the weapons aren't made for pvp.
I love the team kill element to the game provides some sort of challenge not tryna kill ur teammates with orbital strikes
Brothers united we stand divided we fall today we stand
We need 6 man squads instead, and besides, there's already friendly fire
it wasn't scrapped. it never was thought of to begin with
The fact he recommended Tarkov is such a Chad move, that's a man with some grit AND taste.
I think a kill house like thing would be cool, like a friendly compotion to see who can get through the fastest and with the most accuracy
People who want pvp in that game altho we’re already sort of losing ground to the bugs and more of the automatons are losers i say huge W to the helldivers devs they know what people really want a fun community.
I actually just had a match where the pelican glitched out and was stuck hovering like ~50' in the air, meaning we couldn't get in. We collectively decided to start killing each other to burn reinforcements, since we wouldn't have been able to extract. It was honestly pretty fun, but I totally agree that a pvp mode could add some toxicity. It's fun when it isn't competitive, but ince you add that competitive aspect, it can start to get frustrating.
Fan Boofhuck : no pvp?! you scared.
CEO: "We don't want toxicity, go play another game."
Love it!! My respect and favorite CEO.
“No pvp mode”
“Murder this one player tho…”
When the comunity wants to, there will be PvP, regardless of what devs want.
There is no need for PVP, the enemies themselves are enough to keep all players busy 😂
"We don't want the toxicity that pvp brings."
Pvp player chimes in: "WhAt, U sCarEd?"
🤦
It's funny because there's not a single pvp advocate in these comments and yet youre still whining. So maybe you're scared.
@@Trancer006there is stop being toxic please. Your proving a point to non pvp players
@@knightblade0188 If the dictator pve players could stop advocating against all pvp game modes then i'll be chill :) It goes both ways.
@@Trancer006 if you would stop acting like a child and except not everything needs pvp we’d be fine genes exist for a variety of players and shouldn’t exist just to please you. You want a pvp game go play a pvp game hell divers is pve and going to stay that way. If I want to play a pvp game I’ll go play Halo or cod or hell let loose or any of the other thousands of pvp games. You literally have proven them right and given them every justification for the devs not to put pvp in the game all because you can’t except other gamers want other things besides what you want.
@@knightblade0188 Bro you spell like a 12yo and are telling me to grow up lol. Again, Im okay with BOTH game modes co-existing together that cater to MORE gamers. You and your buddies are the ones that dictate what we can or cant play, you don’t want an additional separate game mode because you don’t like it lmao. You have proven more than enough which side is toxic here.
If you want singleplayer or co-op go play CoD, it has both options. We dont need another game at all!!
Honestly, there's right now bigger issues with Helldivers. There's just too many bugs. The automatons also need a rework with things like rocket raiders and rocket devestators needing nerfs. Still fucking love the game.
My friends and I fr had a 1v1v1 march against eachother. It was the most amazing cat and mouse game
lol yeah thay sounds dope, i dont get why people are hating on it 😂 this shit actually has a fun moveset unlikd most PVP games, id just like option to fight my friends
@TheIncredabad69 the reason it works is crazy. Camping is dealt with by the ai pushing you, exposing you making you reposition and gives others the opportunity to take a hit but also exposing themselves in the process. It's a loop that's actually pretty good
This has to be one of my favorite CEOs specifically because he is taking a stand against toxicity.
I think having like a custom server thing would be cool for people who want to do pvp like if they mess with the settings or something, but they already have their hands full with so much probably
Im genuinely thrilled its not pvp in so wick of every game being a battleground or pvp style fame its refreshing to get a game that requires co-op from players.
I do hope they have a large scale battle mode
In response to this they should add a feature where if you drop on the same planet as another player group, there's a chance your missions will "cross paths" with group localized loot like samples, but shared enemies and strategems
They should add something like corruption were something takes over your body and your teamate has to kill you, I could see so many heartbreaking moments from this
Ya, I agree screw pvp. This game is so good. Without it, teamwork, baby
that's a good point actually, most people who can afford helldivers 2 already have CoD, battlefield or any other PvP games if they want PvP they can play those games.
I have had some of the most wholesome gaming experiences with a squad of randos in HD2
Honestly this is a smart move, everyone has solidarity fighting for the same goal, working together, in pvp you are basically encouraged to rage at other people
The teamwork and working with your community element is what makes Helldivers unique
Gantz has incurred the wrath of god
With this kind of game i really want something like "Joint combat operation" or something similar
We aren't enemy! We fight for Democraciy TOGETHER!!!!!
I mean... as far as "PVP", I dont want to have a direct fight. But I do think that this game should look at Planetside 2's outfit system to make guilds.
For context while PS2 is a PVP game, it has guilds called outfits. Outfits as they push the front lines can claim zones to generate resources for them to use later. You claim zones for being high performing group and opting for it.
I would like HD2 to add some of this, in terms of seeing outfit wide contribution to planets (that may let them place an outfit flag on them). Maybe some time trial leaderboards for in outfit and global groups and so on.
Bro sended that dude who said that they "scared to add pvp" to a real hell 💀💀💀
Not adding pvp will stop cheats from being made, i reckon
Hell yeah brothers!!! FOR SUPER EARTH!!!
We want a game where everyone plays on the same side.
Devs spawning in 7 bile titans: oops
There's no time to fight among ourselves when we are getting pushed on both sides!
I started last night and been popping robotic headcases the entire time.
Imagine multiple squads doing the same mission each having to call in there own extract. Maybe some giant extraction ship that can extract 8 players at once.
Imagine the chaos 😂
We have special friendly fire privileges
I'm glad, not every shooter needs a pvp mode
It probably will not be a thing if the betrayal situation is kept under control but on the other hand it make for a fun dynamic in both game and lore.
Great !!!! The Fun in Helldivers 2 is teamwork !