Drilling and Tapping for German Virgins. \\ GUDENTOIGHT! //
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2016
- I mounted a treasured old vice to a new workbench. Some of you enjoyed my introduction to twist drills, here's a follow up. Drilling and tapping in metal. Genuine Steel metal to be precise; it's how vises from a bygone age were cast. Staring: Record Vise No. 3
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Drill speed was way too slow. No squealing, howling, no smoke. I remember when you were a man.
Burn em up!
I've broken so many chinezium taps, thanks for the video!
Funny seeing you here.
Cody'sLab hey codys, how's it going lol
Cody'sLab
My favorite Cody on youtube!
All fellow Codys gotta learn from one another.
Hence me being subscribed to your channel
Project Superstore you should subscribe to wrangler star, I’m pretty sure his name is Cody
"You need to drill straight" - Proceeds to drill second hole more crooked than a politician...
The secret rule of physics that all horizontal surfaces will attract and accumulate crap!
Flat Surface Syndrome. Common malady in many work areas.
Work areas? Every damn flat surface in my home.
No shit. I put a couple of spare beds in my house, and wouldn't you know it...there are kids in the damned things now!
my friend, screw hooks into that ceiling and watch what happens
slow gravity eventually modifies it.
I haven't read all 827 comment so this may have already been said.
About getting the tap started straight by hand with no guides...
Once you get a part shallow thread started, the tap will pull in but can still go crooked.
When you get to that stage, apply some vertical UP pressure on the tap handle as you turn the tap.
This greatly helps to get the tap vertical, going down the hole.
When you have about two full turns like this, you don't need to maintain any more UP pressure; just carry on turning, turning and reversing. The tap will be concentric in the hole.
The was shown to me by a great friend and skilled machinist/welder/fabricator, Neil Budgen (Get It Sorted) of London, England.
Ross Marsden thanks a lot for taking the time to share this
Ross Marsden that’s really good advise
It is MOST important that the Stationary jaw of the Vise be beyond the edge of the table so long vertical items can be clamped.
Literally the only youtubber whose comments are worth reading.
-Pro- Amateur Tip: If you can't get your taps started straight by hand and a drill press won't help you, find a machinist, become his friend (which requires you provide food and/or beer and generally for you to be a decent dude yourself) and ask him to make you a tapping block... A tapping block is nothing more than a 1" or so thick slug of steel with holes precision reamed in it for popular tap sizes, like 1/8", 1/4", 5/16", etc, etc (or metric, or both). It will keep the tap straight for you until you learn how to do it by feel (which... I have my good days and bad days).
The meanest, oldest, crustiest, most son of a bitchenist machinist at a place I used to work gave me the one he made when he was in apprentice school when I asked if he'd make one for me, which I'm pretty sure means I owe him like 2 horses and an oxen under his Journeyman's contract.
So... It's nice to have friends. I'll also never forget that guy and that block is one of my most cherished tools.
4 years later I know you still gotta have that thing. I bet youll still have it 30 years from now too haha
@@fudgepuppy9683 I'll die owning it unless someone steals it. It's in my toolbox covered in air tool oil inside a ziploc bag. Ready when I need it!
@@TheBrokenLife 🦐
I heard saying something about a tap and die chart, but I was having trouble seeing it. Some weird visual interference.
there was a chart?
Yeah i never seen it either watched over a few times couldn't find it
1:23
You must be a short fella, or he threw that one kinda high, because it went way over your head.
***** Hey! I resemble that remark!
the subtle naked lady...
subtle, but not too subtle.
so do you see the thread sizing? ahhh nope what did you say again better rewind.
time to fap
Came here to say the same thing. Have a thumbs up!
Her hand is a vag.
The world would not be the same without your videos. Dont stop!
"I was scared. It was dark. I was all alone". Jesus man, you made me spit out my milk.
I always use a cordless drill with the torque set low for tapping. Never broken a tap yet. Unless you count the ones that snap.
I use those Lisle tap sockets on a cordless impact. I've tapped thousands of holes like that, never broke one
I do this as well. As long as I stay paranoid I don't break em.
I'm going to have to watch this again when I'm not 8 beers into the early morning. I think I went full Canadian there.
you didnt use tap water.
cant argue with that
AvE
What a great tutorial! As a diy guy, I’ve been drilling holes in metal fir many years, and I still learned an incredible amount watching this video. Thank you
AvE... I've watched so many of your videos. You crack me up every time. A master of many things, including humor. One of the funniest channels on UA-cam. I love the actual education too. Thanks so much for making these videos, and hopefully it's well worth your effort.
Nice one man, couldn't help notice the lack of tap water.
I love these videos. Always learn so much. I never knew there were different types of taps for instance. Some of this might be old news to some, but for people like me who do basic metal work only as part of my hobby, your tips are gold.
Had to explain to my wife the meaning of the "[grunt] [grunt] Click!" of your high end German specs torque wrench.
The 70s porno music playing in the background is priceless.
The torque wrench gets me every time XD "GRRrrRRr *click*"
Great channel, been watching for a while now and it has changed the way I look at quality and what it is.
So just wanted to say thank you!
I love that I can learn new tricks and techniques while being serenaded by the soothing sounds of vulgarity. Subscribed.
That Click-type torque wrench: been using the same one for 30 years. Great vijeo again.
just the tip and only for a minute
Just the tip doesn't do much for me, I gotta at least get down to the scar where my foreskin was attached.
Aye, hows about startin' the tap w/ the drill press (movable bench top version)? Same for the pilot hole: drill press? Hell, the entire job for that matter? Why mess with a hand held for 1/2"?
John l bales, for the sake of showing the average home gamer that they too can do this without fancy equipment. Ffs I have access to several CNC mills and yet I too still put a hole or two into material with a good ol hand drill.
P.S. Drill press to Start the tap straight! You are way more knowledgeable than I. Hats off to you.
forkin entertaining. part 2 dying to die
Good to see a Record No 3 vise made it abroad :-)
Now. When drilling into sheet metal, tear off a 1 inch strip of old bed-sheet 6-8 inches long and fold it into 6 layers. Place this folded cloth between the tip of the big drill and the pilot-hole, then drill-away! Keep going and you will find that it will cut the cleanest sheet-metal hole you have seen. It's called the "Rag-Method"; every engineering apprentice learns this.
Don't believe me? Try it on a piece of scrap, you'll remember it forever!
Loving these newer videos for us simpletons, love the other stuff too but these basics vids are things I can put into practice right away.
The clutch was on 11... on the Dewalt. The new brushless ones dont have a regular clutch. It just turns off like that instead of actually engaging a clutch.
Turn it up ta 11! (Or don't)
Drill was in driving mode
Needs to be in drill mode
He probably had it in drive mode to avoid busting his drill bit. I do it a lot.
Great tips Uncle BBF .... tapered point plug taps oh yeah my favorite. If you don't have the correct drill don't be shy about going 10% bigger then that engineering wall chat says. PRO tip you won't be breaking any taps either!
Awesome Me I do a good amount of CNC and spiral flute taps are a godsend. they eject chips as they cut. I use them for hand tapping too and haven't had any issues. no such luck for bottom taps, but they're not designed for forming.
I really enjoy you way of teaching and explaining. Your humor is catchy as well.
Once again, this is a bloody brilliant video. Great for the youngins.
That bit with the little barb is a classic. Reminds me of something I did back in the day - when your little kid's toy drill press stalls out on that, DO NOT just force the quill up, or your cutting edge will get booled right off the drill.
I know you like going in dry, but lube will help keep drill bits from binding.
Caleb Rudd I didn't even notice it until I saw this comment
"Sometime you gotta give her a bit of a little tickle before you stick your pokie-bit in there."- Truer words have yet to be spoken till now.
Love these essentials videos, no matter how much you think ya' know theres always something new.
I love this guy's banter !! and the knowledge keeps me coming back !
Steel from Sheffield. Not since Maggie thatcher ☹️
Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, out, out, out!
maybe take it off torque setting 11 and put it on drill....?
Awesome man. Love this format with the music in the background and the super detailed explanations. I had to pause and really focus on your bolt thread chart to understand what I was looking at
I remember the first time I tapped a hole. Nervous, had only read and heard about it. Scared of poor performance, couldnt quite figure out how to put it in the hole right. But I started gentle and once I got it started added a bit more force. Ended up sweaty with a perfectly tapped hole and the knowledge that I was now a man. Cheap irwin got me started. More recently I found a brand on amazon thats good enough to use with just a straight drill - no impact, no tight spots, no binding - in 1/4 inch plate. Mind you, its only a 3/16" coarse - 1/2" is probably a different beast.
I need to head to HotShot's in Vancouver..... for my shank, of course.
Nice hear Mark Knopfler playing in the background
James Mcsorley Got to have something, for all those wondering
dude, you would make an amazing shop teacher. Shop teachers are always so bad ass, you sir would be no exception.
So cool! thank you for these videos they've been so helpful 🙏
plug, taper, and bottom . where is your magdrill?
Sintered Chinesium? I thought they used old tin cans, and smashed car bumpers and cast those vises in dirt molds. I have a massive Chinese vise that has dirt with paint over it, with some sort of metal underneath everything.
I believe you discovered the technique required to forge the absolute lowest quality Chinesium.
Seth B that dirt and paint are the only things keeping it together 😂
I enjoy the colorful words you use. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for naming the socket set for the taps I have been looking forever for a set
8:20 Ummmmm clear away the chips first, maybe, so they don't get mixed with your cutting oil???
"You NEVER go full Canadian"
Your taste in music is great, as usual. Privateering is such a killer album. Of course, I remember Gator Blood was in another video recently.
I got moist when I saw your SR5 badge, big Toyota fan boy right here. Thanks for another great vid!
Also, it sure looks like AvE's drilling that hole in crooked at 5:24, but maybe it's the camera angle. I think people new to drilling shouldn't take his suggestion that the drill will straighten itself out too seriously: it's hard to drill a hole at 45°, but drilling one 5° off vertical is *really* easy.
When I teach people to hand drill, I tell 'em to get their head down at the level of the drill bit, and check for vertical from two different directions. (But get your head back over the tool when you start it up so you can apply pressure and don't get your hair sucked into the motor. Yes this happens a lot.)
Even better, get a helper to look from the side as you drill: the most common error is to tilt the drill back toward you as you bear down on it. Eventually you'll develop a "sight picture" and be able to fly solo, but a drilling buddy really helps when you're getting started.
Simple drill guide: take a thick piece of wood and cut a 90 degree corner into it. Butt that against your drill bit - straight.
Is there a vocabular guide published for the channel? Those words you're using, I dont think they mean what you think they mean... For example, I cannot find "choocher" in my English ->Russian dictionary and "chowder" is some kind of soup.
rippums i figure out, but perhaps a native canadien speaker could make a translation faq? skookum? Are these some obscure
canadien pop culture references? eh?
Lol
www.avespeak.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
He once explained "cockford ollie"
Very informative these drill and tap vajahos. Evin and old dog like me picked up some valuable tips!
More stuff like that please, we like to think that we already know all of this but then a detail or two emerges from the depths of unknown.
When the holes are too close together be careful where you put your pokie bits!
Ha!
any hole's a goal right
i have broken so many taps while i was backing them out because id get all impatient.
Austin Whitecotton 1.5 turn in 1 turn out
Austin Whitecotton then repeat
the head honcho just wanted them in and out asap and would just buy hundreds of taps to keep us running.
oilfield money
Get the right taps meant for machine use
I learn something, and I get a good chuckle. Thank you mysterious Canadian.
I think I've learned more from watching your videos than I've ever learned from years of work in industry. :P Thanks for the videos, and thanks for the laughs!
I agree Irwins are just junk, I should know haha
had a dewilt commercial before your vajayo lol.
Record vices (or vises as they say in Sheffield) are fantastic! I own a no.5
YES there is. You get a clamp, you put a piece of wood on the other side of the bench, over it you pass a long sturdy piece of wood that goes over the bench (and your drill point by quite a bit) and then you add your clamp over the other side of the fulcrum (loose and taped in place) then you shove your drill under the wood and press with the might of 3 Canadian gorillas. Also helps keeping the cut steady since you're no longer practicing for your Parkinson's days.
Made in England :)
Dave Young empire
can i just say the background music choice is a bit weird
Nope it is Mark Knopfler
Good choice for real music.
im a young gamer and im always blown away with your tips and tricks. i was drilling last summer on a job site using a large bit and my boss was just blown away with how many bits a broke. too be honest he refused to buy anything decent. but im sure my lack of experience didnt help
Funny thing, I've been given no less than 4 sets of cheap assed tap/dies in my life and never used them. I didn't even know how to use them and never had the opportunity, either. I happened across this video as I was binge watching UA-cam while TV free in the keys for 5 months and learned myself somethin. Once I got home I needed a new miter saw and of course wanted crown stops. For whatever reason, Dewalt's crown stops are out of stock, worldwide. I decided to give the Bosch set a try and they looked like they would fit. Was I ever wrong. I needed to drill into the aluminum base of the saw and add a guide with two screw holes in order for this set of stops to work. So i go in the garage(the tap and die set storage locker) and got a set out. Followed your instructions and it worked like a charm. You really do learn something new every day :)
I need that sticker!!
sticker!?! i barely know her!
Same I was a little bit distracted and totally had to rewind the vijeo:)
Jon Doe have you found somewhere to buy that sticker? need one for my box at work
nope. love it though
Phuc dat $hit.... This German would've taken the Fein Drill (the big'un... not that Cordless toy...) and fired the Tap through that Sherman-Tank Armor Plate sized (read= Aluminum Foil..) Table with One Hand.. :-P
Thank you! VERY useful tips and knowledge that you don't find anywhere! :)
Here I am watching my daily ave video in first period study hall, it's about all it's useful for
Your video title is offensive and racist. Don't make me make you take a shower.
-a German
HAHHAHAH
REKT
Dude. Im German. I dont give a fuck about yout title xD.
Nicht so gelungen der Witz...
True, true...
If you ever come across a BOSCH cordless drill. Buy it. I have only had good experiences with 'em. They are a high quality german company.
but get a blue one, the Green is for home use
yes, the blue ones are the newer ones.
opotime I was about to say. I've had a few green ones and their utter shite. Blue ones are ... not bad
GermanLemon wrong. blue ones are the professional line for shops and the green ones are the pussyline for home working wannabees
Watching you drill out 3 holes really got me going.
Just blew the threads out in my engine spark plug and boot went flying. And now I'm rewatching ave so I dont fuck my truck up re taping. Your the man Ave
Make it stop! I like the vids but this was like volunteering for a women's self defense class without a cup.
I sell drill bits and hardware for a living, and I see the same mistakes all the time.
Don't drill pilot holes in metal! Its unnecessary and it messes with the cutting edge of your bit. * your new drill bit comes with a 37° split point and finely sharpened cutting edge that will handle the toughest jobs if used properly* You see, the bit is designed to cut the shape of the cutting edge starting with the tip and moving outwards. The pilot hole leads to uneven wear of the cutting edge of the bit. Over time you will create a "step" in that bit and it wont cut right and/or possibly it will catch easier leading to snappage™
Don't drill so fast. Chips are no bueno pore favor. You want stringers like that long one you had on the table. Chips mean you are going too fast and the cutting edge can't cut the material its just catching. Long stringers means its cutting. Its the same way in wood working when using a hand plane. 400 rpm there abouts will get you good results. That is why they put them pressure sensitive switches on drills and not just a single pole throw switch.
Cutting fluid is a good thing, keeps the tips/work piece from bluing and over heating, getting brittle. Dont really want a Lubricant per se because a lubricant reduces friction and if you ant got no friction you aint getting a cut. Some cutting fluids are friction modifiers to add to the cutting ability but keep the bit cool. So no motor oil or WD-40 ( Did you know that the WD stands for " water displacing"... But WD-40 no longer displaces water? it floats on top )
This is unrelated but why use those Tiawanesium bolts? A good American bolt or Canadian bolt is only a few cents more! JH is Junk. Nucore, Lake Erie, Infasco are all easy to find and are good stuff. Those Jin Her bolts you used are widely available but is only fit for using on.... well not much I would want it on actually. I guess bolting down a vice to a table would be proper.... but I would just have to remember to wear my steel toe boots. I have had customers complain to me they were snapping G8 3/8" bolts with a 1/4" drive ratchet.... Not the first complaint I had on JH bolts. ( We don't sell JH only American made hardware but I see enough of the junk around I learned the makers marks for quite a few MFG) Tifco dot com if your wondering.
Scott H clearly a salesman with no shop experience.
Yeah. I agree, But you really dont need pilot hole unless hole is so big that you or your machine cannot handle drilling without pilot. And actually when drilling your chips should be short and HOT. If your chips are long and cold it means all the heat from cutting is going in your tool and/or workpiece. And if that drill is near 10mm good cutting speed for that is around 23000mm/min 23000/3.14/10 = so about 700-750 RipEm's. And downwards feed should be around 70-75mm/min. So for me AVE's drilling job looks ok to me.
I really enjoy the contents of your shows great sense of humor
@9:12 "If you've got her caddywampus from the get go, you're pretty much fucked." Beautiful descriptive clarity, I think I can understand and retain that lol!
I used to get brass 1/2" exhaust nuts and press them onto the square drive then you can use a 1/2" socket always a winner in my book still have some from 35+ years ago awesome vijeyo man helping the young and uninitiated 🛠🇦🇺
You are hilarious! I just lost my virginity this morning, when my new tap & die set came. I completely got the theory and could visualize the process, but you are so generous is sharing wisdom. Wisdom = Education + Knowledge + Mistakes + Experience + Reflection. I’m defining education to include having a mentor teach us something, not just trade school or college, etc. You clearly have valuable wisdom on this, and you share it with good humor - and I really admire that. Even if your forearm makeup isn’t quite right!
Thanks for the video, a lot of information. Did not know that about the taps. Thanks
Interesting video but I didn't learn a thing. But I'm thinking that after I show this to my grandsons, I may save myself a lot of time trying to show them how to get a broken tap out of a hole! LOL. Keep up the good work and thanks for the entertaining video.
I like these kind of how-to'ish videos. Thanks.
I am impressed that you had a slab of steel that thick.
Love the grunt, grunt, click effect when tightening the bolts.
yes yes yes!!! it was the very first thing i was taught and its the first thing i teach everyone else. if your are a chity welder or a good welder it doesn't matter, being comfortable can only make your work that much better. if you are not standing or positioned properly you arent going to get as good a result from the work.
New video from AvE and Fooligan! Happy Friday to me
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Using a power tool in 1/2 steel would be begging for a pain in the ass night. Hey Ave I bought some starrett tap wrenches. Beautiful set. Spring loaded jaws and the finish is unmatched. Thanks Dr. Ave
Hey Mr AVE well on the power tool issue with taps a friend of mine gave me a tip that worked very well. The air ratchet is your friend with taps. not no cheap chineasium one but a Ingersol. I have yet to break a tap and easier to keep straight.
I had not seen those tap sockets before. Already got some on the way. Thanks.
I've been using chinesium taps my whole life and I find them great. They come with a built in stud.
That's the gnarliest vice I've ever seen!
Your guide videos are great, this is one of those processes I've done before but without as much thought involved in the work. (Suppose ive gotten lucky)
Speaking of Germans and tapping, it appears that Metabo has introduced a gewindebohrer version of their biggest 18V bohrschrauber. Apparently it has a mode where it automatically goes 1 turn backwards for each 2 forwards - unlike its schlagbohrer counterpart (which is hands down the best battery drill I have ever had the pleasure of using) it has a dinky plastic chuck, wherein (rumour has it) there are square mounts for M8-M12 taps. Quite an interesting oddity.
The Homeless Despot. That cracked me up. Excellent.
I was taught to power through all your problems. If the bit catches on barbs, increase torque, if its just not cutting, add feed pressure. MORE POWER
Great vidjeo. I especially like your click style torque wrench at the end.
Supercool video, well presented practical knowledge. Thanx! It may be very well useful for me (got some small M3 holes to tap in further projects, fortunately in 2mm and 8mm thick aluminium). And the title is brilliant. Gudentoight = guten TIGHT! :D
"do it proper the first time" is basically the N°1 motto we should all have in all our endeavours