I liked the reading in this one. Definitely not a fun sequence of events to go through; never thought a GM would do all this and think the players are enjoying it.
Maybe have the Cleric's god talk to the cleric. If cleric still does not want to worship the god, then talk about having the cleric switch classes or homebrew a fallen cleric or something.
Ok so about the religion thing in DnD, there are 2 important points to talk about regarding base DnD lore! 1) Yes people know the gods are real, HOWEVER the rules specifically state that the power of divine magic comes from belief, not gods. Not worshipping =/= saying you don't believe. 2) In base DnD atheism does exist! Buuuuuuut it's not good. You see, Asmodeus is the only entity in the multiverse that gets souls, directly if they are non-believers. NOT PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORSHIP! Bet specifically people who don't believe the gods are real. And many of his cults are designed to take that faith from people (often the cult members themselves.) So there's no reason why the cleric can't walk away from their god and retain their powers. They just might lose specific things thematically? But as a whole, yeah. So long as they don't start disbelieving.
I don't understand that. If you need to believe it works before it will, then it works and you don't need to believe. Which means it doesn't work, so you don't believe it will. You'll end up locked in a paradox and nothing will get done.
I liked the reading in this one. Definitely not a fun sequence of events to go through; never thought a GM would do all this and think the players are enjoying it.
Maybe have the Cleric's god talk to the cleric. If cleric still does not want to worship the god, then talk about having the cleric switch classes or homebrew a fallen cleric or something.
Ok so about the religion thing in DnD, there are 2 important points to talk about regarding base DnD lore!
1) Yes people know the gods are real, HOWEVER the rules specifically state that the power of divine magic comes from belief, not gods. Not worshipping =/= saying you don't believe.
2) In base DnD atheism does exist! Buuuuuuut it's not good. You see, Asmodeus is the only entity in the multiverse that gets souls, directly if they are non-believers. NOT PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORSHIP! Bet specifically people who don't believe the gods are real. And many of his cults are designed to take that faith from people (often the cult members themselves.)
So there's no reason why the cleric can't walk away from their god and retain their powers. They just might lose specific things thematically? But as a whole, yeah. So long as they don't start disbelieving.
Good points. In any case, there's no reason for the DM to run things like that. Poor cleric :(
i thught you dont get your soul eaten if planescape is right about the gods not being "real" but just people who cheated, found, or worked for power.
@@TheChaoticTavern Abso-fucking-lutely not.
I don't understand that. If you need to believe it works before it will, then it works and you don't need to believe. Which means it doesn't work, so you don't believe it will. You'll end up locked in a paradox and nothing will get done.
@Here_is_Waldo that's not how religion works.
should i reminder R/autocurrect exists...autocurrect isnt the end all be all
True
@@TheChaoticTavern got damn autocurrect fucked me post