I paid $1600 for this machine a long time ago and I was thrilled to buy it at that price as this model, being very early and having a short production run, is very difficult to find.
you would expect people nowadays would be bothered by the varying speed of the motor, but I wouldn't be because that's how people of the time listened to their music. Its nice to see there are some of these old machines still around. Other than youtube, I have yet to see one right in front of me :D
Thanks. I've always enjoyed the few very early machines with the top wind crank. Just by looking at them they immediately take you back to the era when horses were the primary means of getting around. What a great time it must have been.
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And in March 2021 covid period a look back to the original period music players , brilliant video thank you and I now have a rough ballpark figure of what they cost .
What a fantastic piece of recorded sound history, both the wonderful Columbia AJ( the only top wind Disc Graphophone made by Columbia, as well as that beautiful E condition early etched Zonophone Record. Thanks so much for posting, I just love this early stuff. Victrolaman
What a dramatic change in sound quality when the tone arm's improved around 1902-04... Can understand now why "serious" artists refused to record... Is there a youtube video with a 1902 Caruso record played on a 1902 machine? Would love to hear how that sounded... Rolf, Netherlands
The crank in the video is indeed a specially desiged Columbia crank that I ordered so that it could revolve during play as it should. I do have the original shorter shank crank that came with it. When it is displayed in my collection the original one is mounted on it.
Thank you for the nice comments, TransformingArt. I don't believe the Zonophone record is the cause of the inconsistent speed near the end. I believe the motor spring is unwinding itself in the barrel unevenly at times. I never know either as sometimes a record will play nearly perfectly. Seems the inconsistent speed can appear on an inconsistent basis : ). Thanks again for stopping in.
Could be that the 1902 [year Columbia entered the disc market] Columbia disc machine's mainspring has either become weak tension-wise or that the spring and barrel should be removed and given a thorough cleaning so as to help the spring to be as efficient as it still can be after 119 years. The other "suspect" would possibly be that the governor is somehow out-of-adjustment - which could be checked by watching it spin - i.e. does it spin evenly, or wobbly?
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Surprising, the motor on this machine has very little noise - I have worked at a Phonograph museum and have dealed with lots of similar early Columbia machines, but this works much better than other. By the way, is the record itself has a speed pitch flaw? It doesn't look like there are some problems with the motor. Oh, anyway, thanks for posting.
This crank looks like a reproduction to replace the hard to find removable short crank. (crank had to be removed or the horn and reproducer would hit it while playing the record). This was considered a design flaw by the first people to purchase these in 1901. in 1903 Columbia released the side crank model which also allowed for a larger record.
The "Victor Herbert" Band Zonophone discs were issued from Nov. 1899 - to 1902. What the group was - was the Zonophone house band conducted by Fred Hager, not Herbert. Herbert recorded a couple of discs for Victor, in 1903, then only re-entered a recording studio ca. 1908 as Edison's Music Director [he recorded several 4-minute wax Amberols with the Victor Herbert Orchestra - some of which were re-issued later in Blue Amberol format. Herbert's main connection to the band format was that he assumed leadership of the Gilmore Band [Gilmore having died in Sept. 1892] - in 1894 remaining with the band through 1897-8.
once I´ve seen one of those records for sale, the problem was that it will came with the purchase of one of those infamous indian reproduction gramophones, and all for more than two hudred dollars!, but I won´t pay a cent for one of those bad working machines, even with that record
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Beautiful Columbia AJ Gramophone great 78 👍🎷🎵
I paid $1600 for this machine a long time ago and I was thrilled to buy it at that price as this model, being very early and having a short production run, is very difficult to find.
Excelente de este gramofono que tan extraño con varios discos de vinilo. saludos desde Lima, Perú. 🙂
you would expect people nowadays would be bothered by the varying speed of the motor, but I wouldn't be because that's how people of the time listened to their music. Its nice to see there are some of these old machines still around. Other than youtube, I have yet to see one right in front of me :D
Thanks. I've always enjoyed the few very early machines with the top wind crank. Just by looking at them they immediately take you back to the era when horses were the primary means of getting around. What a great time it must have been.
Repent and trust in Jesus. Hes the only way. We deserve Hell because weve sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him.
John 3:16
Romans 3:23
I never saw a top-wind Columbia machine in action. NEAT! Thanks for this.
Thanks for your comments. Good to hear that you enjoyed this. The old music machines are truly wonderful inventions.
And in March 2021 covid period a look back to the original period music players , brilliant video thank you and I now have a rough ballpark figure of what they cost .
What a neat machine. I love how the crank unwinds as it plays.
Love this good record player and record
Well-done presentation of such a rare machine, and Thank You again! I have been told that I smile from beginning to end of your videos!
que gramofono tan extraño con la perilla en la mitad del plato saludos desde la tacita de plata colombia
wow wow
What a fantastic piece of recorded sound history, both the wonderful Columbia AJ( the only top wind Disc Graphophone made by Columbia, as well as that beautiful E condition early etched Zonophone Record. Thanks so much for posting, I just love this early stuff.
Victrolaman
damn the sound quality is still perfect there is no damage for a century-old loudspeaker
Remarkably good recording from that early time. Little surface noise! Thanks for this posting.
@Moooperator Thanks Moo! Good to hear you found one of these!
I just bought one of these... and you are right, they do struggle to regulate the correct speed. NICE!
What a dramatic change in sound quality when the tone arm's improved around 1902-04... Can understand now why "serious" artists refused to record... Is there a youtube video with a 1902 Caruso record played on a 1902 machine? Would love to hear how that sounded... Rolf, Netherlands
Thanks for sharing!
What a great slide of the past! Thanks for this video. Good commentary, too.
The crank in the video is indeed a specially desiged Columbia crank that I ordered so that it could revolve during play as it should. I do have the original shorter shank crank that came with it. When it is displayed in my collection the original one is mounted on it.
Amazing.
I really enjoyed this- thanks for posting!
Thank you so much, Rocky. I always look forward to your interesting comments!
Thank video !! Bravo record ,bravo musik.
way cool, if or when civilization goes down the tubes we can still use these gems to listen to music. cd mp3 all electronic devices will be useless
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Beautiful!
Very very good
Thanks!
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Great! I didnt know how it worked!! thank you!
the best t vintage amazing,,,
Thanks for the nice comments, Interests2009.
Thank you for the nice comments, TransformingArt. I don't believe the Zonophone record is the cause of the inconsistent speed near the end. I believe the motor spring is unwinding itself in the barrel unevenly at times. I never know either as sometimes a record will play nearly perfectly. Seems the inconsistent speed can appear on an inconsistent basis : ). Thanks again for stopping in.
Could be that the 1902 [year Columbia entered the disc market] Columbia disc machine's mainspring has either become weak tension-wise or that the spring and barrel should be removed and given a thorough cleaning so as to help the spring to be as efficient as it still can be after 119 years. The other "suspect" would possibly be that the governor is somehow out-of-adjustment - which could be checked by watching it spin - i.e. does it spin evenly, or wobbly?
@victrolaman You are most welcome, Victrolaman. Always great to see a comment from you. I continue to enjoy the great videos posted on your channel and hope that you'll stop in for another visit soon.
That looks like the Exact Record Plays From The Aristocats.
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Surprising, the motor on this machine has very little noise - I have worked at a Phonograph museum and have dealed with lots of similar early Columbia machines, but this works much better than other. By the way, is the record itself has a speed pitch flaw? It doesn't look like there are some problems with the motor.
Oh, anyway, thanks for posting.
This crank looks like a reproduction to replace the hard to find removable short crank. (crank had to be removed or the horn and reproducer would hit it while playing the record). This was considered a design flaw by the first people to purchase these in 1901. in 1903 Columbia released the side crank model which also allowed for a larger record.
Great record in great condition! You got an idea of what year it was made in?
How fast does the record rotate?
Regards
These early records didn’t have an exact speed but most are around 70-78 rpm
Cool record. I have a few 9 inch "Universal Zonophone" records in my collection, all by Victor Herbert's Band. How old would you say they are?
The "Victor Herbert" Band Zonophone discs were issued from Nov. 1899 - to 1902. What the group was - was the Zonophone house band conducted by Fred Hager, not Herbert. Herbert recorded a couple of discs for Victor, in 1903, then only re-entered a recording studio ca. 1908 as Edison's Music Director [he recorded several 4-minute wax Amberols with the Victor Herbert Orchestra - some of which were re-issued later in Blue Amberol format. Herbert's main connection to the band format was that he assumed leadership of the Gilmore Band [Gilmore having died in Sept. 1892] - in 1894 remaining with the band through 1897-8.
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once I´ve seen one of those records for sale, the problem was that it will came with the purchase of one of those infamous indian reproduction gramophones, and all for more than two hudred dollars!, but I won´t pay a cent for one of those bad working machines, even with that record
How much does one of these worth?
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John 3:16
Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤