Lovvvved that long nose slide heel out! That was video part quality! And that big backside 180 over the gap was nice too. PS- I love that Nickelback song. And also around 1/3 or more of the homeless are suffering from some type of untreated mental illnesses 💕🙏
I have been putting a small wood Real risers with my Thunders and riding bigger wheels. This has helped a lot with crusty slappy spots. Conical Full is my all around wheel choice for any situation. They seem to have been made for Thunders ⚡ Have been riding a few different sizes on different size boards. Thunder is also making a Inverse Kingpin that's currently in testing ✨ Thanks for the Video
My first pair of trucks were Thunder’s loved them. Then i rode independent for years as a teen because i thought it would be more “gnarly” or whatever. Now as an Adult I skated thunders again and honestly my skateboarding improved so much. Morale of this comment, skate what’s comfortable/fun. Don’t skate something just because, “everyone else is.”
Yep that’s right! Opposite here. I actually didn’t ride Indys my whole skate life but decided To try them few years ago when Stage 11 came out and loved them ever since. It All has to do with your body type and the arch in your feet and all kinds of other body factors. 👍🍻
This happened to me, i used to skate thunder and my friends convinced me to switch to indys, recently i bought thunders 149 lights ant they feel amazing
My god those parks look amazing! Damn. Ben man seeing you stop and take the boy out to the streets at that gap, then the bs 180 bail and make, that shit made me wanna go skate right now! Hell yea
Congratulations, Ben! Use up the skate gear. A lot of the times we'll get the gear, use it only a little, and get fresh. It's nice to see properly Used up skate gear!
Love to see this! I did a little video a while back ( inspired by your truck reviews ) reviewing a few different brand of trucks after skating them to the axle. Given that trucks are usually skated long term I think people are really curious about how they hold up.
Congrats on your knee recovery.. 🎵"it hurts me, too" lol, no but seriously. (speaking for myself) I have been having a great time with The 92a Blue Indy Bushings, Ben!
Please Ben, after all these clips we’re just waiting for a video part. Everything was butter and I really enjoyed the way you skated there, nice work and amazing review.
It’s been more than a year since I was on Thunders last. I always felt like it was easier to get a more stable, consistent and snappier pop on them and that they just felt sluggish on the turn compared to Indies. Currently getting used to Ace AF1s with their own Hard replacement bushings. So far I feel very stable on them while they still retain a very nice turn. My pop is not as consistent as the Indie Titaniums I skated before and I do get some ghost pop.
Ahh so happy to see more skate videos from you, had an accident at the weekend and broke my wrist very badly (2 bones broke) so it’s fun to watch some skating as I won’t be for a few months! Stay rad!
Great video! I recently started skating thunder 147 (on a 8.125 deck) and they feel great. Gotta try them with the conical fulls tho as I usually ride those on indys. Thanks for the tip!
Hey nice that you visited Victoria. Was a bit surreal seeing a UA-cam video at a park I've skated. It was a pleasant surprise. I would suggest checking out the sixside diy park next time.
I was steady thunder forever. When I switched i would miss the short baseplates. Just slipping out on tail slides. I loop out all the time. Skating just does it to me. Find me in Salem whistling Canned Heat everywhere I go. Cali sober
Just switched to Thunder 148 standards after riding Indy hollow 144’s for a year really feel like my manuals are better on Thunders and I actually really like the turning on them. But you really do have to push harder on nose/tailslides due to a shorter baseplate
Maybe I should try Thunders. I've retired a pair of Indys, Tensors, and Destructos after wearing the baseplate down to the pivot bushings on nose slides. I'll wear down one then rotate them. I felt all those falls, btw.
Actually moved over to thunders from Indy's (only partially you) but I actually got a chance to ride em on a friend's board and was thinking of going to ventures initially and changed my mind when I tried the thunders and I love them been riding for a bit and feel so much more confident with popping tricks and feel much more in control than when I was on Indy's kinda just made the skate shop an extra purchase when I pick up a 8.5 board friday
Thunders have been my go-to since Indy Stage 9’s. I’ve tried a buddy’s later Indy’s and I just prefer the Thunders now. Funny really as I never had Thunders “back in the day”.
My favorite trucks were the old grind kings in the early 2000s. The king pins were invincible. I rode them very tight for the better pop and I skated alot of big and tall gaps and stair sets so tight trucks and 54-55 mm wheels and a big wide deck were the best to use for skating big tall gaps and stairs. I also liked Alien workshops, and habitat decks for the technical skating and ledge skating but they seemed to break easier than other companys. I broke one on a front side lip slide on a hand rail and hurt myself pretty bad. Zero's seemed the stongest I thought. But Alien Workshop had the coolest designs and were nice and light for more technical stuff. Back to the video, Independent trucks used to suck in the early 2000s, the king pins would break on me and they were heavier than other brands.
Not gonna tell ya now to live ya life. But I recently bought a pair of silver m class trucks and they're instantly one of my favorite trucks. I never had a truck feel that instantly felt broken in and turned like butter till now. I've just tried flat so I can't guarantee a good grind... but I would say 100% worth a try
I'm actually a big fan of the Thunder Hollows. I went from an 8.0 to an 8.25 deck size and from standard 147s to 148s and it kind of balanced out. My only gripe with Thunders is they don't last and I hate the kingpin clearance and scrapping it on just normal 50-50.
Ben should take a grinder to them thunders so he has all axle for the curbs. I have been skating the 149s since spring and yeah bushings are not that great really soft and like loose trucks but i had to crank down on them a bit more then id like.
I’ve also noticed since switching to thunders from Indy’s that my pop is just ever so slightly sharper. Idk if they sit a little closer to the nose and tail, which would cause that, or maybe it’s just placebo.
I like Thunders for as manny reasons Ben lists. But if I try a friends board with looser Indys at a park, I’m screwed. Then the Thunders turn feel like crap and I loose them and drop all stability. Looking forward to Thunders with an inverted kingpin! Ace with hard bushings seems interesting. I skated Lurpiv with hard bushings and liked it a lot.
Currently trying the 149 lights on a 8.38" Deathwish Jake Hayes (31.875" 14.375" Nose 6.875" Tail 6.625") and 53mm classics. I kinda miss the spongy feeling of the indys (especially in miniramps) and sometimes I feel like I just can't stand on my board anymore (a bit exaggerated ) because of the weird turn. But I feel like im getting used to it and many tricks, especially flips and grinds start to feel easier. I feel like the board would perform better on my 149 Indy though since it's a bit more mellow than I'd normally ride (even on Indys)
I love Thunders (skate the 148 lights), and the bushes always crap out on me about 2 to 3 months in. Tend to throw in their aftermarket light blue ones (94-95a i think) and get a bit longer out of those vs the light green or white ones that come as standard with them...but it's a shame on what is an otherwise goldilocks truck for me.
Your thoughts on the turning vs indies took me by surprise because from my experience I thought indies turn a bit more delayed than thunders (which I ride 99% of the time) which feel so responsive, been riding some indie hollows with the pillow soft white bushings and they feel somewhat close to my loose ass thunders
I also try to get mu trucks grooved still not to the axle in finland its not good weather outside anymore so miniramp will do the job to groove my trucks
I am a couple years into skating and am digging the heft of standard and mid 159s, what would you say are your favorite parts about using hefty trucks?
@@user-ju1dd5jx8s i just love how they turn and feel. I have never bent an axle or broke in some wierd way. I do lots of slappies so i chew through trucks good , and indies have more meat to chew off the bone if that makes sense. I really do want to try Ace Trucks for design (they are based off old indies and Tensor mag lights which grind anything but wear down fast .
Thanks for the reply. I actually started on ace 44 classics (8.38 axle) and though the turn was very tight and fun, I wanted more stability to learn basic flatground on, indy was the perfect balance of fun turn with more stability than ace for me (a heavy-ish newbie). I'd try ace again at some point. I am also interested in the coming 9 inch mag-lights but hope that the huge weight reduction doesnt feel weird. Hoping those hangars fit on indy baseplates.
glad im not the only one obsessed with carving out truck grooves, lol
It’s art
Nose slide heelflip on the curved ledge was so buttery Ben, well done.
enough with the truck review - when we gonna start getting ben’s flannel reviews??
Guve the people what they want
Ben's Flannel drop now! I'd do a product review....😂
Totally dad
Beetlejuice.
@@JRC.85 It's showtime!
After 1 yr in crutches (skate knee injury), 6 months walking/pushing around, I finally got snappy ollies back!!!!!!
Ayyeee congrats
Awesome review like always. I could listen to Ben talk about trucks for hours lol
Lovvvved that long nose slide heel out! That was video part quality! And that big backside 180 over the gap was nice too.
PS- I love that Nickelback song. And also around 1/3 or more of the homeless are suffering from some type of untreated mental illnesses 💕🙏
Are you saying listening to nickelback is a mental illness?
I have been putting a small wood Real risers with my Thunders and riding bigger wheels. This has helped a lot with crusty slappy spots. Conical Full is my all around wheel choice for any situation. They seem to have been made for Thunders ⚡ Have been riding a few different sizes on different size boards. Thunder is also making a Inverse Kingpin that's currently in testing ✨ Thanks for the Video
My first pair of trucks were Thunder’s loved them. Then i rode independent for years as a teen because i thought it would be more “gnarly” or whatever. Now as an Adult I skated thunders again and honestly my skateboarding improved so much. Morale of this comment, skate what’s comfortable/fun. Don’t skate something just because, “everyone else is.”
Yep that’s right! Opposite here. I actually didn’t ride Indys my whole skate life but decided To try them few years ago when Stage 11 came out and loved them ever since. It All has to do with your body type and the arch in your feet and all kinds of other body factors. 👍🍻
This happened to me, i used to skate thunder and my friends convinced me to switch to indys, recently i bought thunders 149 lights ant they feel amazing
My god those parks look amazing! Damn. Ben man seeing you stop and take the boy out to the streets at that gap, then the bs 180 bail and make, that shit made me wanna go skate right now! Hell yea
Congratulations, Ben! Use up the skate gear. A lot of the times we'll get the gear, use it only a little, and get fresh. It's nice to see properly Used up skate gear!
Think you went full circle on the madness here and found yourself on the other side. Truly a lover of the 149 with conical fulls as well.
I love how much I learn in your vids.
That gap at the end was beautiful!
The slappy demo got me, rofl. Ben didn't have to prove anything, and yet he did!
Thunders with Indy baseplate would be my dream combo. Great video Ben!
I love the theory of the dude and the Nickleback song. I also love thunder trucks but have the same problem with the bushings.
sick stick with thunder your skating really well Ben. I enjoyed seeing that backside nose grind pull out in the middle of the ledge.
each hanger a work of art, i like that
That Nickelback song played on the radio all the time in the maritime provinces... recognized it instantly!!
Love to see this! I did a little video a while back ( inspired by your truck reviews ) reviewing a few different brand of trucks after skating them to the axle. Given that trucks are usually skated long term I think people are really curious about how they hold up.
Congrats on your knee recovery..
🎵"it hurts me, too" lol, no but seriously.
(speaking for myself) I have been having a great time with The 92a Blue Indy Bushings, Ben!
Please Ben, after all these clips we’re just waiting for a video part. Everything was butter and I really enjoyed the way you skated there, nice work and amazing review.
It‘s Truckmadness season for papa Ben!
That park was INFESTED!! I never see kids at parks in my area anymore.
What a beaut of a review Ben, relate all the way through, now get the 151s and try them slappys
those blazers are crispy, i also love to skate blazers and thunders 149
It’s been more than a year since I was on Thunders last. I always felt like it was easier to get a more stable, consistent and snappier pop on them and that they just felt sluggish on the turn compared to Indies. Currently getting used to Ace AF1s with their own Hard replacement bushings. So far I feel very stable on them while they still retain a very nice turn. My pop is not as consistent as the Indie Titaniums I skated before and I do get some ghost pop.
That 180 was awesome!!
will go back to these for sure
147 thunder trucks lights ll ,bones medium bushings,solid no issues. 8.0 deck pstix. Spitfire conical fulls 52 mm 99A , bones Swiss bearings, mob grip , shake junt hardware 7/8 allen.
great vid as always dude 🔥
8:07 was the beautiful🤣
GREAT clip AND the junky serenade ?!
too good. 😂
You're the best, Ben.
Aaaaaand we all just wanna be great like Elvis driving fifteen cars!
Ahh so happy to see more skate videos from you, had an accident at the weekend and broke my wrist very badly (2 bones broke) so it’s fun to watch some skating as I won’t be for a few months! Stay rad!
I’m sorry to hear about your wrist. I know your pain all too well ❤️
@@bendegros thanks really appreciate the good vibes!
Tight! Might have my last skate session of the year tonight. Good way to start it off with a Ben vid 💪. Il have to wait and watch when I’m off work
I ve skated Thunders 149 for the past 15 years. I love them. I just set up a new complete and planning to grind 'em to the axle!
Great video! I recently started skating thunder 147 (on a 8.125 deck) and they feel great. Gotta try them with the conical fulls tho as I usually ride those on indys. Thanks for the tip!
watching ben talk and skate makes me happy :)
I Always Ride Thunder Trucks with indie conical bushings. Work fine👍
Oh man, here's me with 58mm radial fulls on 6.1 venture hollow lights. Pop is insane, even got some riser pads so I could turn haha
Love the review 🤩
Hey nice that you visited Victoria. Was a bit surreal seeing a UA-cam video at a park I've skated. It was a pleasant surprise. I would suggest checking out the sixside diy park next time.
ben is the mr rogers of skateboarding.
Mr. Rogers was a trained sniper in Vietnam responsible for over 46 confirmed kills.
@@galvanizedgnome wow fr that’s gnarly
@@galvanizedgnome bet he can’t do a three flip.
fav. youtube skater by far. friendly Canadians 🍁 vibe all the way. indys are great but I been on the Ace kick lately myself.
I was steady thunder forever. When I switched i would miss the short baseplates. Just slipping out on tail slides.
I loop out all the time. Skating just does it to me.
Find me in Salem whistling Canned Heat everywhere I go. Cali sober
But hold up Mr Degros, are these dad or bro tho? 🔍
Awesome video!
That euro to euro looked so fun to skate
When you dad makes you film him at the skatepark…
Great review Ben! Might dig my almost axeled thunders out of the closet!
Cool to see you skating blazer mids. Once you get past the big toe blister, and buy some fp insoles, they kick ass.
i feel you on the bushings. I use Indy super hard and medium half and half for each side. The original thunder bush explodes in a minutes.
I can watch Ben review anything idec what it is lmao. I’ll watch Ben review socks.
His pivot cup review is riveting
I will always love thunders. But I'm ready to try something new
Indys helped me learn noseslides but now that I’m working on crooks, I feel like Thunders would help 😆
Just switched to Thunder 148 standards after riding Indy hollow 144’s for a year really feel like my manuals are better on Thunders and I actually really like the turning on them. But you really do have to push harder on nose/tailslides due to a shorter baseplate
Dude nose nollie heel was nice 👏
Caught that Mad Circle Moses duck reference at the end 😂
Thunders slappy the best something with there height and how the hanger shaped they grab the curb like no other
I never break skateboards😅 but I break trucks. My thunders have not disappointed.
Maybe I should try Thunders. I've retired a pair of Indys, Tensors, and Destructos after wearing the baseplate down to the pivot bushings on nose slides. I'll wear down one then rotate them.
I felt all those falls, btw.
Noseslide heelflip out was solid
Actually moved over to thunders from Indy's (only partially you) but I actually got a chance to ride em on a friend's board and was thinking of going to ventures initially and changed my mind when I tried the thunders and I love them been riding for a bit and feel so much more confident with popping tricks and feel much more in control than when I was on Indy's kinda just made the skate shop an extra purchase when I pick up a 8.5 board friday
Shredding through scooter heaven
I wish i could get grooves dug in like that
Tbh I’ve been waiting for this review for like 8 months now
I’m trying to remember if I’ve seen you skate gaps before. Good spot.
yeah i would totally skate thunders all the time if i could replace the bushings more often 😂 sick noseslide nollie heel ben
Thunders have been my go-to since Indy Stage 9’s. I’ve tried a buddy’s later Indy’s and I just prefer the Thunders now. Funny really as I never had Thunders “back in the day”.
You are a mad man! 😉
My favorite trucks were the old grind kings in the early 2000s. The king pins were invincible. I rode them very tight for the better pop and I skated alot of big and tall gaps and stair sets so tight trucks and 54-55 mm wheels and a big wide deck were the best to use for skating big tall gaps and stairs. I also liked Alien workshops, and habitat decks for the technical skating and ledge skating but they seemed to break easier than other companys. I broke one on a front side lip slide on a hand rail and hurt myself pretty bad. Zero's seemed the stongest I thought. But Alien Workshop had the coolest designs and were nice and light for more technical stuff. Back to the video, Independent trucks used to suck in the early 2000s, the king pins would break on me and they were heavier than other brands.
That curvy slappy crooky was loopy juicy goodness
Not gonna tell ya now to live ya life. But I recently bought a pair of silver m class trucks and they're instantly one of my favorite trucks. I never had a truck feel that instantly felt broken in and turned like butter till now. I've just tried flat so I can't guarantee a good grind... but I would say 100% worth a try
I'm actually a big fan of the Thunder Hollows. I went from an 8.0 to an 8.25 deck size and from standard 147s to 148s and it kind of balanced out. My only gripe with Thunders is they don't last and I hate the kingpin clearance and scrapping it on just normal 50-50.
Too funny about the truck groove grooming, I think of boards like that each one has been slid differently and shows it. Skateboarding is everything
didn't you say that the royals were the last truck review you'd do? i'm glad you're back reviewing trucks, love it.
Hey hey hey. This is more like a truck diary😂
Review, diary, whatever, count me in. Nice to hear back from a fellow BC guy.
Ben should take a grinder to them thunders so he has all axle for the curbs. I have been skating the 149s since spring and yeah bushings are not that great really soft and like loose trucks but i had to crank down on them a bit more then id like.
Fyi Ben my drywall skills pretty dang decent thanks to all you're videos
I’ve also noticed since switching to thunders from Indy’s that my pop is just ever so slightly sharper. Idk if they sit a little closer to the nose and tail, which would cause that, or maybe it’s just placebo.
Would like to watch your review on Ace AF1 with Ace Hard Bushings on!
I feel you man! Not only do I ride thunders but I ride 100a bushings too. I weigh 255 so squirly trucks are a no go for me haha
havent seen trucks like this since i was skating as a kid , couldnt afford trucks and we use to grind a lot
Im a big thunder fan. I have been riding them for 12 years and i dont think any other truck comes close to how good thunders skate.
I like Thunders for as manny reasons Ben lists. But if I try a friends board with looser Indys at a park, I’m screwed. Then the Thunders turn feel like crap and I loose them and drop all stability. Looking forward to Thunders with an inverted kingpin! Ace with hard bushings seems interesting. I skated Lurpiv with hard bushings and liked it a lot.
I was REALLY hoping that was Adriano singing 😂
Currently trying the 149 lights on a 8.38" Deathwish Jake Hayes (31.875" 14.375" Nose 6.875" Tail 6.625") and 53mm classics. I kinda miss the spongy feeling of the indys (especially in miniramps) and sometimes I feel like I just can't stand on my board anymore (a bit exaggerated ) because of the weird turn. But I feel like im getting used to it and many tricks, especially flips and grinds start to feel easier. I feel like the board would perform better on my 149 Indy though since it's a bit more mellow than I'd normally ride (even on Indys)
my thunder trucks are just like yours rsrs doing the same tricks the last four years. i skate twice a week
and i m deadly in doubt if a try indys 144
You should try the Indy bushings in the thunders. I like it
Which ones, soft, medium or hard?
I love Thunders (skate the 148 lights), and the bushes always crap out on me about 2 to 3 months in. Tend to throw in their aftermarket light blue ones (94-95a i think) and get a bit longer out of those vs the light green or white ones that come as standard with them...but it's a shame on what is an otherwise goldilocks truck for me.
We need some Ben Degros merch.
Thunderit Ovat Eritäin Hyvät.
Hey Ben! what would you say the best low truck is for a 8.25? havnt skated the same since indy changed them! much love
Your thoughts on the turning vs indies took me by surprise because from my experience I thought indies turn a bit more delayed than thunders (which I ride 99% of the time) which feel so responsive, been riding some indie hollows with the pillow soft white bushings and they feel somewhat close to my loose ass thunders
its prob because hes using the harder bushing kit
Change the top washer with bones washer so they will last longer
I also try to get mu trucks grooved still not to the axle in finland its not good weather outside anymore so miniramp will do the job to groove my trucks
This convinced me to go with thunders! Thanks Ben! Are those 52 mm?
Wheels that is!
noseslide nollie heel hot spot 😳
Can you try the upcoming Venture Kader Cast Hollow (hollow kingpin/axle with cast basplate) when it comes out?
soo many scooters lol
I am
An indie guy so hard to change and try something else when i just love my raw standard 159/69s
I am a couple years into skating and am digging the heft of standard and mid 159s, what would you say are your favorite parts about using hefty trucks?
@@user-ju1dd5jx8s i just love how they turn and feel. I have never bent an axle or broke in some wierd way. I do lots of slappies so i chew through trucks good , and indies have more meat to chew off the bone if that makes sense. I really do want to try Ace Trucks for design (they are based off old indies and Tensor mag lights which grind anything but wear down fast .
Thanks for the reply. I actually started on ace 44 classics (8.38 axle) and though the turn was very tight and fun, I wanted more stability to learn basic flatground on, indy was the perfect balance of fun turn with more stability than ace for me (a heavy-ish newbie). I'd try ace again at some point. I am also interested in the coming 9 inch mag-lights but hope that the huge weight reduction doesnt feel weird. Hoping those hangars fit on indy baseplates.
@@user-ju1dd5jx8s i didnt know they were getting bigger mag lights. I will have to get some 9 inch ones for sure
@@AspiringSpaceWizard Apparently Bevup has a pair on an 8.75 deck
I blow out bushings on everything. I always have to run 98 bushing. I think it's our height (I'm 6'4).
Do a tyshawn Adidas shoe review and don’t say if it’s dad or bro. Your feet will thank me for suggesting the review