Thank you for being so honest about the loss of plants in the terrarium. I've been beating myself up for the same reason, so ashamed that i even have a hard time sharing. About 10 years ago i had my own terrarium loaded with superexpensive hybrids and almost all of the summer blooming phal species imaginable, it was my proud and joy, my everything. Then i had to move and couldn't take them with me for about a year. In the meantime my mom took care of them but a combined attack of red mites and black rot took all of my precious plants within a couple of weeks. ALL of them.. And i couldn't do anything about it. I feel so devastated and thoroughly ashamed right until this moment. Just can't wrap my head around the fact that i let that happen, but yeah that's true. In that enclosed, fragile environment i wouldn't have had a chance even if i was present and ready to fight... Well, that's life, but still a very heartbreaking experience. Has just been recently getting back in the orchid game as i cannot live without them.. Hope i've learned the lesson and i'll also have better luck this time.
Awesome video. Growing from seeds is hopefully my next endeavor! And I’ll be referencing your videos for the great info and guidance that we’ve come to expect from you. Keep up the good work.
Hi, how are you doing? I would like to know How will I prepare the black liquid? and If the process for parrot and butterfly orchids seas are the same?, Thank you so much!.
Orchid flasking media - to make your own, here's the recipe & instructions: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/#orchid-flask-media
Andreas - sometimes you can cross closely-related species from different genera and it’s considered an intergeneric hybrid. For example, there are some Vanda x phalaenopsis hybrids...but it is rare. Google “vandaenopsis” and you’ll see a long list of examples of crosses like this. Phalaenopsis crossed with a bulbophyllum would be too distant and would not work.
Good day to you wow I like your videos so much and I do learn from you. May I ask...I started with seedpots and did the sawing into the bottles...now how long does it take before I can see a tiny greenish plant? Im super exited. Love your slipper orchids a lot. Regars Hydi South Africa
Hi Hydi! Thanks for following along - it's so great to hear you're trying this yourself. It takes about 10-21 days for the green to start showing up. Generally you'll notice that the seeds get a bit swollen first (like little grains of sand), then they green up. Some types take longer, some shorter. I wish you luck with your new seedling project
Hey mate, I'm wanting to get in to TC for my carnivorous plants, and would be awesome to breed some orchids also. What are you using for your jars, are the lids special for TC, or are they just normal plastic lids? I'd like to try a minimum set up to start with just to dip my toes in and get s feel for it.
I’m using a canning jar brand called Bernardin without all the fancy “decorations” on the glass, and for the lid it’s a brand called “Ball” Leakproof plastic lids. I picked them both up at Walmart in the food/canning section-but I’m in Canada so your local supplies may be different
Great update! I really like your seedlings and looking forward to their growth ! Everything grows so well in your place , what fertiliser do you use? Also terrarium failure is upsetting but your success in growing the orchid seedlings are much higher, so I wouldn't mind . However I'm sure whenever you are less busy, you can give it a go again and start with less plants in there. Do you have any video on your terrarium? Looking forward to your phragmopidium video. Mine don't bloom, don't know why? May be they need more water than I give to them? Thanks for the update and sharing. Happy growing.
You could try. However, by the time you get a visible infection, there are many cells growing both above and within the media so, I don’t think a topical application like that would work. Also, alcohol will likely kill the seedlings-as would enough peroxide. But...I haven’t tried it. A better bet would be to use PPM - plant preservative media which you add directly to the media preventatively before you flask. I haven’t used it yet, but it’s supposed to prevent microbial growth and reduce risk of contamination
Orchid flasking media - I have a detailed article about the process (including the recipe on how to make that black agar); but I'll warn you, it isn't with a bunch of ingredients that are easy to find at home. Here's a link for details on that: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/#orchid-flask-media
Na - if it's contaminated, the fungi and/or bacteria can secrete compounds which are toxic. I normally leave them for a bit (until any flask work is long finished), then discard the contaminated media by taking the flasks outside, open the jar, add a half-jar of soapy dish-water and shake them up, then disposing the contents. Then I'll sterilize those flasks for 20 mins in the pressure cooker to ensure any residual bacteria or fungus has been totally destroyed
rogelio - yeah, well I guess that’s how it goes, right? Not a lot of resources on this out there, so you have to experiment and get through it yourself. I haven’t reused contaminated media because it just seems like a bit of a mess all around (double cooking ingredients, possible toxins, dealing with possible reinfection, etc).
@@HerebutNot thanks man, your videos are very good to enlighten people not focused on this, i know how to propagate in vitro , i know how to work in a mycrobiology lab.. and still there is so much to learn , thanks
Hi Edyl, I put all of that information into this blog post: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/
Haha - maybe in another year or...5 lol. I love the idea of a greenhouse, but our winters are so cold that it makes winter management a real...danger zone. Maybe I'll talk him into an indoor atrium instead :D
J. Donoghue hahaha - I donno...I crunched the numbers and the amount I’d have to create and sell to make a living wage...I don’t know if it’s worth it. I once pursued a career with my old hobby. It sucked the joy out of it and I lost interest after I saw the business side of it. I think my fear with trying to make orchids my livelihood is that they would reach the same fate. It would be nice just to grow plants all day long though. Lol
@@HerebutNot Being ASD [Aspie] I like repetitive tasks, like flasking, repotting, data entries etc... so something like this would be my own personal mad science experiment... but plants, in general, are amazing.
Wow-you are being overtaken by plants! Are you intending on eventually selling your seedlings? I would love to buy some when you are ready. BTW, you have my favorite colored cat! Thanks for sharing. : )
Ange - yes, I’d ideally like to sell them and only keep a few. Only problem is, shipping orchids internationally is prohibited unless you have the right paperwork. The cost/process associated with getting those documents is quite high, so at least for the foreseeable future, I will only be selling within Canada :(
Hi Clyde, he's the real star lol. I must say your plants are super fantastic. I really enjoyed the seedling update. It is so interesting to follow them as they grow and mature. Can't wait to see your own seeds get to bloom. Sorry about the terrarium. Time to start looking for a new place to live. Happy growing!!
I'm so glad you showed off the aroids. Apparently the Forgetii is extremely rare, but I'm just not crazy about most plants with the stem in the middle (like pilea peperomioides), I am still not sure if your Clarinervium (when I pronounce it I think of clarinet, and nerves) is actually Crystallinum, because those seem to have much more veins, and fewer large green areas. The pattern on your leaf does look like Clarinervium to me. The main difference is also in the shape of the actual vein pattern. Crystallinum has radiating lines all converging in the centre, while Clarinervium kind of has curved arcs around the edges. Compare with these photos: abrimaal.pro-e.pl/araceum/anthurium/crystallinum.htm It's hard to be sure since the plant is still fairly small, and both look really similar. It also seems weird that the stems on yours look kind of beige as opposed to light green. I still can't wait for mine to arrive. They shipped it today, and it should arrive in 3 days, so before end of business day on Thursday (Aug 1st). I also JUST saw another video with one featured in it (there are surprisingly few videos on them) and the girl said it's SUPER easy to take care of. Will tolerate low humidity, infrequent watering, ships well, etc. See: ua-cam.com/video/vbCE8a7WYpw/v-deo.html Very sad to see the terrarium. Do you plan to clear it all out and rebuild it, maybe with a backup pump? Or are you abandoning the idea?
JC - terrarium is done. Back in the day I used to have a small indoor greenhouse. It had the same fate...a rip formed and I fixed it, but the threads had aged and while I was away, a second rip happened and I lost all of my nepenthes. After this experience, I just don’t have the patience to start over again. Regarding the aroids: my pleasure. I’m glad they’re establishing well. For clarinervium vs. crystallinum, it all comes down to the shape of the leaf. Clarinervium have big lobes at the top and the leaf mimics a big heart 💚 (which I’m sure you know), but my plant has small lobes, nothing near what photos of clarinervium look like. I’ll wait for the new leaf to complete and show a side by side. But, the other possibility is that it’s a hybrid. I don’t really care either way though. I just wanted plants with that veining.
Loved the video! With my phrags i have an issue with brown tips that sometimes ends up decaying half of the entire leaf, ive also recently repotted a phrag and it just droops. Anything i can do to perk it back up? Tried watering more often, but didn’t work.
You're missing the obvious answer on the space issue. Just buy a second place, outfit half of it for Cannabis hydroponic growing (to make $$$) and the other half as a dedicated orchid growspace. And I don't mean to pry, but is that a sunburn on your neck or autoerotic asphyxiation? 😘
Ahahaha - no choking or sun burns; I did have a vodka coke... Great idea bout the cannabis-orchid hybrid home....perhaps I'll try that. I feel like I'd be really good at cannabis growing lol.
I hadn't heard of that - though I might be a bit worried that tobacco mosaic virus could infect my plants? I know there are a few strains of orchid viruses which originated from TMV, but I don't know how easily those viruses jump between species like that. At this point I think I have most of the bugs in check. I'm just doing spot treatments now (thankfully)
Do you have a video how to make the flask sir?
Thank you for being so honest about the loss of plants in the terrarium. I've been beating myself up for the same reason, so ashamed that i even have a hard time sharing. About 10 years ago i had my own terrarium loaded with superexpensive hybrids and almost all of the summer blooming phal species imaginable, it was my proud and joy, my everything. Then i had to move and couldn't take them with me for about a year. In the meantime my mom took care of them but a combined attack of red mites and black rot took all of my precious plants within a couple of weeks. ALL of them.. And i couldn't do anything about it. I feel so devastated and thoroughly ashamed right until this moment. Just can't wrap my head around the fact that i let that happen, but yeah that's true. In that enclosed, fragile environment i wouldn't have had a chance even if i was present and ready to fight... Well, that's life, but still a very heartbreaking experience. Has just been recently getting back in the orchid game as i cannot live without them.. Hope i've learned the lesson and i'll also have better luck this time.
What is at the bottom of the jars and tubes? Do you sell the plants?
Hola buenos dias.Cuantas horas al dia pones los cultivos bajo las lamparas led?
Where is the video where you do this black liquid where you put the seeds?
so is it possible o grow vanilla orchids from grocery store vanilla seed pods?
What is at the bottom of the tubes and jars?
i used agar agar as a medium for phalaenopsis.
you have good movies
grts from belgium
How did it go?
Ahhh so exciting!! Can’t wait to see them get deflasked!
I have the same overcrowding issue.
Excited abt your seedlings. Do you have a majesty palm? Any ideas for keeping it healthy?
Can you cross pollinate Phalaenopsis to denrobium?
Awesome video. Growing from seeds is hopefully my next endeavor! And I’ll be referencing your videos for the great info and guidance that we’ve come to expect from you. Keep up the good work.
Hi,
Would you please describe a simple media for the orchid seeds sowing that can be effective using MS MEDIA
THANK YOU
Hi, how are you doing? I would like to know How will I prepare the black liquid? and If the process for parrot and butterfly orchids seas are the same?, Thank you so much!.
What is the media in the container?
Orchid flasking media - to make your own, here's the recipe & instructions: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/#orchid-flask-media
Hi,
I'd like to know if it's possible to cross a phalaenopsis with a Vanda or bulbophyllum?
Thanks in advance!
Andreas - sometimes you can cross closely-related species from different genera and it’s considered an intergeneric hybrid. For example, there are some Vanda x phalaenopsis hybrids...but it is rare. Google “vandaenopsis” and you’ll see a long list of examples of crosses like this.
Phalaenopsis crossed with a bulbophyllum would be too distant and would not work.
@@HerebutNot Thank you!!!!! 👍
Good day to you wow I like your videos so much and I do learn from you. May I ask...I started with seedpots and did the sawing into the bottles...now how long does it take before I can see a tiny greenish plant? Im super exited. Love your slipper orchids a lot. Regars Hydi South Africa
Hi Hydi! Thanks for following along - it's so great to hear you're trying this yourself. It takes about 10-21 days for the green to start showing up. Generally you'll notice that the seeds get a bit swollen first (like little grains of sand), then they green up. Some types take longer, some shorter. I wish you luck with your new seedling project
Hey mate, I'm wanting to get in to TC for my carnivorous plants, and would be awesome to breed some orchids also. What are you using for your jars, are the lids special for TC, or are they just normal plastic lids? I'd like to try a minimum set up to start with just to dip my toes in and get s feel for it.
I’m using a canning jar brand called Bernardin without all the fancy “decorations” on the glass, and for the lid it’s a brand called “Ball” Leakproof plastic lids. I picked them both up at Walmart in the food/canning section-but I’m in Canada so your local supplies may be different
@@HerebutNot yes sure, our supplys are very different here in Spain. Thanks for the response!
oh my gosh how do you ever go on vacation??? XD PS. Love Clyde...so gorgeous, looks like a Russian Blue?
Great update! I really like your seedlings and looking forward to their growth ! Everything grows so well in your place , what fertiliser do you use? Also terrarium failure is upsetting but your success in growing the orchid seedlings are much higher, so I wouldn't mind . However I'm sure whenever you are less busy, you can give it a go again and start with less plants in there. Do you have any video on your terrarium?
Looking forward to your phragmopidium video. Mine don't bloom, don't know why? May be they need more water than I give to them?
Thanks for the update and sharing. Happy growing.
Thanks for the update!
Great video. I have a question. If I have contaminations can I just spray alcohol or h2o2 into the flask?
You could try. However, by the time you get a visible infection, there are many cells growing both above and within the media so, I don’t think a topical application like that would work. Also, alcohol will likely kill the seedlings-as would enough peroxide. But...I haven’t tried it.
A better bet would be to use PPM - plant preservative media which you add directly to the media preventatively before you flask. I haven’t used it yet, but it’s supposed to prevent microbial growth and reduce risk of contamination
What ia the dark color inside the flask and bottle?
Orchid flasking media - I have a detailed article about the process (including the recipe on how to make that black agar); but I'll warn you, it isn't with a bunch of ingredients that are easy to find at home. Here's a link for details on that: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/#orchid-flask-media
what do you do with the agar that got contaminated? do you recycle it somehow?
Na - if it's contaminated, the fungi and/or bacteria can secrete compounds which are toxic. I normally leave them for a bit (until any flask work is long finished), then discard the contaminated media by taking the flasks outside, open the jar, add a half-jar of soapy dish-water and shake them up, then disposing the contents. Then I'll sterilize those flasks for 20 mins in the pressure cooker to ensure any residual bacteria or fungus has been totally destroyed
@@HerebutNot would have been nice to know before attempting it XD. I turns out.. for some reason the agar doesn't get solid again....
rogelio - yeah, well I guess that’s how it goes, right? Not a lot of resources on this out there, so you have to experiment and get through it yourself. I haven’t reused contaminated media because it just seems like a bit of a mess all around (double cooking ingredients, possible toxins, dealing with possible reinfection, etc).
@@HerebutNot thanks man, your videos are very good to enlighten people not focused on this, i know how to propagate in vitro , i know how to work in a mycrobiology lab.. and still there is so much to learn , thanks
How to make media solution to sow orchids seeds please to have any ingrient on it and how to process on it
Hi Edyl, I put all of that information into this blog post: herebutnot.com/how-to-breed-flask-phalaenopsis-orchids-steps-for-dry-seeds-green-pod-propagation-methods/
I'm so in awww of what you have done, you are awesome. When are you and your boyfriend going to buy a house so you can have a greenhouse?
Haha - maybe in another year or...5 lol. I love the idea of a greenhouse, but our winters are so cold that it makes winter management a real...danger zone. Maybe I'll talk him into an indoor atrium instead :D
Does the paph or phrag seeds take any longer than phalaenopsis to germinate?
Kisschai - phrags are quick, but I cannot comment on paphiopedilum. I haven’t flasked those yet.
@@HerebutNot does phrags have brown seeds?
@@kisschaiyarungsee6484 - Yes they do! They kind of look like beard clippings actually *haha* gross, I know
😜
... so when are you buying an orchid nursery and doing this full time?
J. Donoghue hahaha - I donno...I crunched the numbers and the amount I’d have to create and sell to make a living wage...I don’t know if it’s worth it.
I once pursued a career with my old hobby. It sucked the joy out of it and I lost interest after I saw the business side of it. I think my fear with trying to make orchids my livelihood is that they would reach the same fate.
It would be nice just to grow plants all day long though. Lol
@@HerebutNot Being ASD [Aspie] I like repetitive tasks, like flasking, repotting, data entries etc... so something like this would be my own personal mad science experiment... but plants, in general, are amazing.
You can't buy Cherry Certs??? I leave Canada for a few years and everything falls apart!
@@JTDGA - wait…they’re still a thing?!
@@HerebutNot ARE THEY NOT EVEN A THING ANYMORE?
Wow-you are being overtaken by plants! Are you intending on eventually selling your seedlings? I would love to buy some when you are ready. BTW, you have my favorite colored cat! Thanks for sharing. : )
Ange - yes, I’d ideally like to sell them and only keep a few. Only problem is, shipping orchids internationally is prohibited unless you have the right paperwork. The cost/process associated with getting those documents is quite high, so at least for the foreseeable future, I will only be selling within Canada :(
Hi Clyde, he's the real star lol. I must say your plants are super fantastic. I really enjoyed the seedling update. It is so interesting to follow them as they grow and mature. Can't wait to see your own seeds get to bloom. Sorry about the terrarium. Time to start looking for a new place to live. Happy growing!!
I'm so glad you showed off the aroids. Apparently the Forgetii is extremely rare, but I'm just not crazy about most plants with the stem in the middle (like pilea peperomioides), I am still not sure if your Clarinervium (when I pronounce it I think of clarinet, and nerves) is actually Crystallinum, because those seem to have much more veins, and fewer large green areas. The pattern on your leaf does look like Clarinervium to me. The main difference is also in the shape of the actual vein pattern. Crystallinum has radiating lines all converging in the centre, while Clarinervium kind of has curved arcs around the edges. Compare with these photos: abrimaal.pro-e.pl/araceum/anthurium/crystallinum.htm It's hard to be sure since the plant is still fairly small, and both look really similar. It also seems weird that the stems on yours look kind of beige as opposed to light green. I still can't wait for mine to arrive. They shipped it today, and it should arrive in 3 days, so before end of business day on Thursday (Aug 1st). I also JUST saw another video with one featured in it (there are surprisingly few videos on them) and the girl said it's SUPER easy to take care of. Will tolerate low humidity, infrequent watering, ships well, etc. See: ua-cam.com/video/vbCE8a7WYpw/v-deo.html
Very sad to see the terrarium. Do you plan to clear it all out and rebuild it, maybe with a backup pump? Or are you abandoning the idea?
JC - terrarium is done. Back in the day I used to have a small indoor greenhouse. It had the same fate...a rip formed and I fixed it, but the threads had aged and while I was away, a second rip happened and I lost all of my nepenthes. After this experience, I just don’t have the patience to start over again.
Regarding the aroids: my pleasure. I’m glad they’re establishing well. For clarinervium vs. crystallinum, it all comes down to the shape of the leaf. Clarinervium have big lobes at the top and the leaf mimics a big heart 💚 (which I’m sure you know), but my plant has small lobes, nothing near what photos of clarinervium look like. I’ll wait for the new leaf to complete and show a side by side. But, the other possibility is that it’s a hybrid.
I don’t really care either way though. I just wanted plants with that veining.
Oh! Kaylee Ellen
- I follow her channel too. LOVE those aroids she has...and hey, she can even pronounce clarinervium! lol.
What's your media Sir?
It's from phytotech lab - P668
Never stop buying new plants!!! 😜
If you clear out that terrarium, you can put more orchids in that corner. 😁
Loved the video!
With my phrags i have an issue with brown tips that sometimes ends up decaying half of the entire leaf, ive also recently repotted a phrag and it just droops. Anything i can do to perk it back up? Tried watering more often, but didn’t work.
Blue Aquatics - mmmm the droopy Phrag, what is the species or hybrid?
Maravilhoso 👏👏😘
Thank you!
wow!!
You're missing the obvious answer on the space issue. Just buy a second place, outfit half of it for Cannabis hydroponic growing (to make $$$) and the other half as a dedicated orchid growspace.
And I don't mean to pry, but is that a sunburn on your neck or autoerotic asphyxiation? 😘
Ahahaha - no choking or sun burns; I did have a vodka coke...
Great idea bout the cannabis-orchid hybrid home....perhaps I'll try that. I feel like I'd be really good at cannabis growing lol.
Get rid of the terrarium,and you,lol have more space for your plants🌿
Soak cigarettes in water for a few weeks then add I soap. Cigarettes are a natural pesticide.
I hadn't heard of that - though I might be a bit worried that tobacco mosaic virus could infect my plants? I know there are a few strains of orchid viruses which originated from TMV, but I don't know how easily those viruses jump between species like that.
At this point I think I have most of the bugs in check. I'm just doing spot treatments now (thankfully)